Boycott Auto Companies That Move Production From Canada

[CdnFox]

56 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

Sure there will be some resistance, but the last poll to be taken was just over 50 % of Canadians would agree to fight , and only if they agreed with cause, that patriotism everyone talks about is just chest thumping........

I don't think it's just about patriotism and I think there's a lot of people who are relatively new Canadians that hate America already.

You're a military guy, are you going to tell me that even a relatively small group of people, let's say 10,000, fighting gorilla tactics can't cause massive death and destruction when they can blend in as easily as we can with America?

We both know that they absolutely can no problem. 

You think Russia and China might not find a way to sneak some arms and explosives into their hands? I suspect they might.

And in an age of drones you don't even have to be line of sight anymore to kill a dozen people standing in a bus stop.

It would not go easy for them. There would be enough to ensure that their occupation is nothing but a misery

 

[Aristides]

6 hours ago, herbie said:

My leftist suggestion is to nationalize GM, Ford and Stallantis plants in Canada, privatize them immediately to Canadian only shareholders and switch Canada roads and car production to left hand driving Jan 1 2028.

Supply the entore commonwealth, Japan and other countries with left hand drive vehicles in a total open free trade market.

Maybe allow those companies a minority position in exchange for use of the brand names, stamping equipment, etc.
It would take something that drastic to deliver EVs and hybrids that consumers actually want that could fit on European streets, charge at home and carry 4 or 5 people sufficient range for most daily use and be affordable.
 

You realize that Stellantis is a publicly  owned company, largely European. Chrysler is only one division. Americans are relatively minor shareholders.

The idea of switching to RH drive is just dumb. 

[Army Guy]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

I don't think it's just about patriotism and I think there's a lot of people who are relatively new Canadians that hate America already.

You're a military guy, are you going to tell me that even a relatively small group of people, let's say 10,000, fighting gorilla tactics can't cause massive death and destruction when they can blend in as easily as we can with America?

We both know that they absolutely can no problem. 

You think Russia and China might not find a way to sneak some arms and explosives into their hands? I suspect they might.

And in an age of drones you don't even have to be line of sight anymore to kill a dozen people standing in a bus stop.

It would not go easy for them. There would be enough to ensure that their occupation is nothing but a misery

 

I think a lot of new Canadians come from conflict areas, and are not interested in fighting...and the ones that are, have no skills , or experience...it would take almost a full year to train and equip A basic force that could conduct raids, patrols  etc...This is not like on TV...they would have extremely high cas rates, and that alone would discourage anyone else for joining..you need someone thats really motivated, really focused like religiously, or someone that experience loss of family members by the enemy, needs to be a lot of hate...

Yes i do think a group of trained para military guys could do that, the taliban did just that but they had been fighting their whole lives but had hundreds of thousands fighting for them and a huge support network including the Pakistan intel service... ...here in Canada , Canadians are soft , they lack training, lack firearms, lack explosives, they lack everything....getting that from the enemy is not very easy....The Russian and chinese are not going to risk anything like that...world has turn to sh!T if that happens anyways, With the US focused on Canada and other global events...the bad guys  would have their own plans, like finishing ukraine,or europe and taiwan.... 

Average Canadians might be good at a lot of things but, fighting in modern warfare is not one...it would take years of training and years of stealing tech from the americans... to create a force that could do any real damage....and the tech we had in Afghanistan was james bond sh!T the tech the have today is well past that... today there is nowhere to hide. use a cell phone or just listening to a radio, or spark up anything electrical, or battery powered, and it's game over operate in the open at night, or in winter and your body heat will give you away....you pretty much have to stay below ground and only in small numbers....most military vehs today have gun fire indicators, fire any weapon and with in seconds they will have your position fixed on a map and arty fire on route...nobody out runs arty fire...

Now if they could stay alive for the first year, get some experience and weapons then maybe they may be able to make a run at regulars US forces....but that's why they have different tiers of units...that specialize in small unit warfare...sorry not many canadians i know of could compete at that level...one is olympic class the other local shinny league...and US has a lot of those guys....Once our military guys are used up...( that might be in the first 24 hours.) that pretty much will be the end for Canada....

That's by design our government has taken most of the tools you need to handle a foreign military invasion away, nobody even thought that was possible.... our government has always been afraid of our own people look at the convoy...and how everyone vilified them,and they still do..."call out the tanks" use military drones  on them" "nazi flags"all the names the government called them....none of them very flattering....if we could do that in peace they could really do a number in time of crises...think them fat cat liberals politicians are going to hold out when pressured by a professional military force...because they would be the first to fall....Canada holding out for years, is all for the movies....now 30 to 40 years ago, we would have seen the white burn again...today, Canadians not a chance...Canadians would be to busy surviving rather than fighting...

 

 

 

[Army Guy]

5 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

 

We just need enough military expansion to make our 2% contribution (forget the recent bellicose 5% of GDP scam that not even the U.S. will hit).  With the right mix of ships and air power, we can defend our waters and airspace and contribute to NATO missions.

The U.S.‘s own constitution and courts don’t allow it to destroy democracies and impose foreign government. They’ve tried it in places like Iraq where there were actual tyrants and it didn’t end well.  Canadians are too similar to Americans.  With millions of dual citizens, it would be a pretty rough ride for any president to try and invade and occupy Canada.  It would certainly spell the end of American democracy.

 

The current condition of our military,there is no way we could defend toronto, or any major city center from a determined force....even at 10 % we would not be able to defend from the US for long....it is going to take at least a decade to repair what is broken with our military.... and hundreds of billions of dollars...we have 3 undermanned brigades to defend 8000 kms of countryside not even counting our north...put that into context we have 80 main battle tanks, 40 for training and 40 ready for combat, of which some of those training tanks are in latvia... most of those combat tanks are in Alberta...US marine corp has more women under arms than we have military members, and the US out numbers our tanks buy close to 100 plus  to one....

[paxamericana]

12 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

and the US out numbers our tanks buy close to 100 plus  to one....

Orange man just want a trade deal… yes we can squish you all like a bug but it’s more profitable to keep you alive. Alternatively you can apply for statehood like the soon to do Albertan.

Edited July 14, 2025 by paxamericana

[CdnFox]

11 hours ago, Army Guy said:

I think a lot of new Canadians come from conflict areas, and are not interested in fighting...and the ones that are, have no skills , or experience...it would take almost a full year to train and equip A basic force that could conduct raids, patrols  etc...This is not like on TV...they would have extremely high cas rates, and that alone would discourage anyone else for joining..you need someone thats really motivated, really focused like religiously, or someone that experience loss of family members by the enemy, needs to be a lot of hate...

Yes i do think a group of trained para military guys could do that, the taliban did just that but they had been fighting their whole lives but had hundreds of thousands fighting for them and a huge support network including the Pakistan intel service... ...here in Canada , Canadians are soft , they lack training, lack firearms, lack explosives, they lack everything....getting that from the enemy is not very easy....The Russian and chinese are not going to risk anything like that...world has turn to sh!T if that happens anyways, With the US focused on Canada and other global events...the bad guys  would have their own plans, like finishing ukraine,or europe and taiwan.... 

Average Canadians might be good at a lot of things but, fighting in modern warfare is not one...it would take years of training and years of stealing tech from the americans... to create a force that could do any real damage....and the tech we had in Afghanistan was james bond sh!T the tech the have today is well past that... today there is nowhere to hide. use a cell phone or just listening to a radio, or spark up anything electrical, or battery powered, and it's game over operate in the open at night, or in winter and your body heat will give you away....you pretty much have to stay below ground and only in small numbers....most military vehs today have gun fire indicators, fire any weapon and with in seconds they will have your position fixed on a map and arty fire on route...nobody out runs arty fire...

Now if they could stay alive for the first year, get some experience and weapons then maybe they may be able to make a run at regulars US forces....but that's why they have different tiers of units...that specialize in small unit warfare...sorry not many canadians i know of could compete at that level...one is olympic class the other local shinny league...and US has a lot of those guys....Once our military guys are used up...( that might be in the first 24 hours.) that pretty much will be the end for Canada....

That's by design our government has taken most of the tools you need to handle a foreign military invasion away, nobody even thought that was possible.... our government has always been afraid of our own people look at the convoy...and how everyone vilified them,and they still do..."call out the tanks" use military drones  on them" "nazi flags"all the names the government called them....none of them very flattering....if we could do that in peace they could really do a number in time of crises...think them fat cat liberals politicians are going to hold out when pressured by a professional military force...because they would be the first to fall....Canada holding out for years, is all for the movies....now 30 to 40 years ago, we would have seen the white burn again...today, Canadians not a chance...Canadians would be to busy surviving rather than fighting...

 

 

 

As far as new people not wanting conflict, I would direct you to any of the number of thousands and thousands of demonstrators protesting violently in the last year or two. Not to mention violent first nations protesters who aren't going to be any more excited than anyone else about the Americans taking their land.

As to the rest, history says you're wrong. Period full stop.  Countless times civilian populations have become extremely effective insurgents in extremely short periods of time. It may not really hit their stride until a year but they'll do a lot of damage and they will become more and more effective as they go

Like I said they aren't going to win any set-piece battles but it doesn't take a lot of training to start ambushing civilians around America. Most of us have enough knowledge of America that will be able to pass as Americans with no problems.

And like I said, there would be a couple of countries lining up to send over advisors or people to help get them started along with equipment.

You don't need a lot of tools. An average guy with a hunting rifle can go kill 5 or 10 Americans in a city in the states and if there's a hundred guys doing that every American in the states is afraid to put their head out of their door. Their freedoms would be severely curtailed and there would be pushback and unrest about that. It doesn't take much skill to damage critical infrastructure either. Or to start fires.

And for the occupiers  it's not hard to learn how to shoot soldiers, blow up places they gather at, lure them into somewhere to kill them, etc. 

History shows again and again that  it's easy to win the war, winning the occupation is the hard part. How many years would america want to live like that?

[paxamericana]

46 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

How many years would america want to live like that?

Nah we’ll turn Canada into Gaza in a day. You’ll all die from winter when the food and heat goes away. 

[Zeitgeist]

14 hours ago, paxamericana said:

Orange man just want a trade deal… yes we can squish you all like a bug but it’s more profitable to keep you alive. Alternatively you can apply for statehood like the soon to do Albertan.

So look, I’m not speaking for most Canadians when I say this, because most Canadians want Canada to remain an independent country.  I see some advantages to Canada being part of the U.S., but the U.S. couldn’t simply absorb Canada as a single state and maintain its current federal structure.  The U.S. would have to change in ways that many Americans might oppose.  For example, Quebec has federal official language status in Canada. Most Canadians support greater gun control than the U.S. has. Most Canadians prefer our healthcare system to America’s.  The provinces would want the status of states because they’re used to having that level of autonomy as provinces.  If it had to be less than ten states, where would that line be drawn?  I could see value in combining some of the Maritime provinces, but I know those impacted provinces would feel very differently.  The territories would remain territories.  You would need a government in Ottawa to manage the various Canada-wide obligations (e.g. health and education, etc.).

Basically the only way to manage Canada without significantly altering US governance is by letting Canada run itself.

I do think all Canadians and Americans should be able to live and work anywhere in either country.  Make trade as free as possible, which means letting go of some sacred cows. You don’t get voting rights without becoming a citizen, like under current circumstances. You don’t get access to local social services without meeting a minimum length residency requirement, probably two years like in Europe.  People living outside their country could simply pay for private benefits and/or have their employers pay in the meantime.  Maintain the border strictly as a security checkpoint so each country retains control over its borders.

Since the 51st state rhetoric, I think that common market idea may not happen for some time, if ever, as Canadians are in panic mode looking for new trading partners and protections for our sovereign interests.  Canadians feel disrespected.  The advantage of this scenario, an inadvertent assist from Trump, is that interprovincial trade barriers are being removed, we’ll get a cross country energy grid, maybe even an east-west oil pipeline, big transportation and resource projects, a stronger military, and a more independent industrial strategy.

We’ll be better positioned for long-term success whether or not the trade barriers with the US come down.

Edited July 14, 2025 by Zeitgeist

[Zeitgeist]

1 hour ago, paxamericana said:

Nah we’ll turn Canada into Gaza in a day. You’ll all die from winter when the food and heat goes away. 

You clearly don’t grasp how many types of power exist in Canada and the extent of our agri-tech.  We export nuclear and energy expertise around the world.  Are you thinking the Yanks will destroy their own business infrastructure in Canada and carpet bomb Inuit villages to achieve Gaza level destruction?  What will they do then, mass murder Canadians and send in US citizens to rebuild everything for themselves?  Or will they turn 40 million Canadians into slaves to do it for them?

Yeah that’s a great narrative for the Americans.  I’m sure the millions of Canadians who either work or have property in the U.S. or are dual citizens will just cheer it on and continue business as usual. I think there are still civil rights in the U.S. and something in the Constitution about government by the people for the people, or is that fake news?

[paxamericana]

Just now, Zeitgeist said:

You clearly don’t grasp how many types of power exist in Canada and the extent of our agri-tech.  

 

In this make believe scenario where terrorist Canadian are putting up an insurgency to resist the American empire gleefullly to their wet dream. 

[Zeitgeist]

2 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

In this make believe scenario where terrorist Canadian are putting up an insurgency to resist the American empire gleefullly to their wet dream. 

A country defending itself is not committing terrorism under international and domestic law.  If the U.S. invaded Canada, the U.S. would be declaring war on all NATO countries who would be obliged to respond.  What’s the upside for America of threatening allies?  

[herbie]

15 hours ago, Aristides said:

The idea of switching to RH drive is just dumb. 

Why? Sweden switched overnight. It sure as hell wouldn't be popular though would it?

Drove a RHD here for years, and the most common objection of why it was stupid and dangerous came from drivers who didn't know how to drive their LHD vehicles safely.

[paxamericana]

10 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

upside for America of threatening allies?

Cheaper cheese

[Zeitgeist]

11 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

Cheaper cheese

Full of hormones.  I still remember a documentary about the U.S.‘s lax FDA rules.  All these cows were wandering around with suppurating breasts.  Pus was leaking out of them.  It’s why we only buy organic milk when travelling in the U.S.   I don’t mind the Americans selling dairy in Canada as long as it’s labeled FDA regulated or made in the U.S.   You should get RFK to do something about the hormones.  I actually think he’d do it.  He’s addressing some of the bad chemicals allowed in US cereals.

Edited July 14, 2025 by Zeitgeist

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, paxamericana said:

Nah we’ll turn Canada into Gaza in a day. You’ll all die from winter when the food and heat goes away. 

You couldn't even turn Gaza into Gaza, Israeli said to do it for you. Sad when someone takes your own gear and shows you how it's done  

[paxamericana]

37 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You couldn't even turn Gaza into Gaza, Israeli said to do it for you. Sad when someone takes your own gear and shows you how it's done  

Lies, we were arming the Gazans with USAID. Look at how much problem they caused the Israeli. Our supplies are top notch. 

[Aristides]

3 hours ago, herbie said:

Why? Sweden switched overnight. It sure as hell wouldn't be popular though would it?

Drove a RHD here for years, and the most common objection of why it was stupid and dangerous came from drivers who didn't know how to drive their LHD vehicles safely.

Because no one else in the America's drives on the left. There is just no good reason to do it. 

[Army Guy]

5 hours ago, CdnFox said:

As far as new people not wanting conflict, I would direct you to any of the number of thousands and thousands of demonstrators protesting violently in the last year or two. Not to mention violent first nations protesters who aren't going to be any more excited than anyone else about the Americans taking their land.

As to the rest, history says you're wrong. Period full stop.  Countless times civilian populations have become extremely effective insurgents in extremely short periods of time. It may not really hit their stride until a year but they'll do a lot of damage and they will become more and more effective as they go

Like I said they aren't going to win any set-piece battles but it doesn't take a lot of training to start ambushing civilians around America. Most of us have enough knowledge of America that will be able to pass as Americans with no problems.

And like I said, there would be a couple of countries lining up to send over advisors or people to help get them started along with equipment.

You don't need a lot of tools. An average guy with a hunting rifle can go kill 5 or 10 Americans in a city in the states and if there's a hundred guys doing that every American in the states is afraid to put their head out of their door. Their freedoms would be severely curtailed and there would be pushback and unrest about that. It doesn't take much skill to damage critical infrastructure either. Or to start fires.

And for the occupiers  it's not hard to learn how to shoot soldiers, blow up places they gather at, lure them into somewhere to kill them, etc. 

History shows again and again that  it's easy to win the war, winning the occupation is the hard part. How many years would america want to live like that?

Violent protestor's here in Canada...more like soccer hooligans,most of those palestinian protestor's are spoiled rich white kids or old people that have no idea what true violence is....those palestinians involved in the protests are the ones that fled the violence in Gaza, and will not want any part of sticking up for canada once the chips are down....

Look i get it everyone fantasizes about living through the next massive conflict, or war or the aftermath of war...and it all good, but i can tell you with todays tech, any small group thinking about becoming a terrorist group or anything similar. you will get caught and you will be engaged, and not by some RCMP rookies, these will be people who solde job is to hunt terrorist's........the more soft target's you kill, the more attention your cell gets, and if it gets handed over to a tier one unit , you'll be able to start counting your last days on the planet...and while am not a tier one operator, I was a Canadian infantry soldier with the RCR and i know first hand the violence our boys could dole out...our unit was pretty good at hunting bad guys and giving them an interview with allah...Tier one units operated on a whole different level...  

What history, most of these countries that have had successful inserections or terrorist groups, have been religiously motivated ( Middle East) communist vietnam, these countries are normally very poor,or very religious or both...easy to convince the population to die for the cause...you have none of that here in Canada...SO history is going to pass you by here...And a lot can happen in a year, Canadians might be convinced that life is much better being a yankee...who knows maybe it will be somewhat peaceful...and Canadians are treated humanely... 

.Look i'm not going to argue with you, this was my job the entire time we were in Afghanistan, looking for bad guys and engaging them it is NOT going to be like any Movie....where kids take on the Russians, or Rambo comes out of the wood work...US soldiers are not going to come in guns a blazing...but like any soldiers from any country  you kill one and pi## them off,they are not going to have a problem sending Canadians for interviews with their maker... 

Soldiers train for these scenarios constantly, they know how to spot ambushes, or when they are being lured into a kill zone....In Afghanistan we could listen into any cell phone conversation, and using electronic warfare jams entire spectrums of frequencies all on the move....and your forgetting they have armored vehs on the ground both IFV and Tanks...., and attack helos flying above for cover, on standby is arty, fighter aircraft, rockets, bombers etc..... Most of the armoured vehs have gun shot indicators that will pinpoint any gum, missile launch....not to mention drones flying high above the convoy just above the convoy and in the middle....it takes mere seconds to find a shooter, and engage them with 25 mm which fires many different types of rounds, but you can't hide from them....I've seen a taliban take 3 rounds of 25mm all that was left was shin bones and feet in sandals....the rest was turned to pink mist...and that was done from 1000 meters, on the move...

the Average infantry guy life expectancy is 7 seconds...in a battle...against a near peer enemy....the people your going to fight is trained and equipped with more than any terrorist could dream of his life expectancy would be measured in seconds after firing one shot...and most of that happens on the move, doing about 80 kms an hour...and the soldier doing it has a wad of chew in his mouth, and a coffee in one hand...

Canadians have not experienced the violence that a modern soldier can bring to the table....what they see is in a movie or in a brief washed news clip....a couple of days of seeing the results and most will leave the battlefield for good...or die...

 

[Army Guy]

18 hours ago, paxamericana said:

Orange man just want a trade deal… yes we can squish you all like a bug but it’s more profitable to keep you alive. Alternatively you can apply for statehood like the soon to do Albertan.

We speak english and french here in Canada if he wants a trade deal, he should be able to tells us what he wants exactly....if it's cheese then say it is the cheese instead of dropping tariffs on copper, etc... and making us guess...

 

[paxamericana]

1 minute ago, Army Guy said:

We speak english and french here in Canada if he wants a trade deal, he should be able to tells us what he wants exactly....if it's cheese then say it is the cheese instead of dropping tariffs on copper, etc... and making us guess...

 

So one of the sticking point is digital licenses and intellectual property. Trump want to be able to sell those services to Canada without the trade barrier or local government taxes. That's the real cheese he is after. 

[Army Guy]

27 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

So one of the sticking point is digital licenses and intellectual property. Trump want to be able to sell those services to Canada without the trade barrier or local government taxes. That's the real cheese he is after. 

I thought that was already dropped shortly after trump spoke out about them....i think that bill is dead now,i could be wrong,but thats what our media is saying...

[herbie]

1 hour ago, Aristides said:

Because no one else in the America's drives on the left. There is just no good reason to do it. 

Of course it would be a silly idea. But no one has even suggested a more sensible one.
What should we do boycott buying ALL cars and trucks?
Australia gave up its entire domestic car industry and survived. Not that we should. Building only RHD versions of vehicles here would leave us some of the market instead of none. 

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, paxamericana said:

Lies, we were arming the Gazans with USAID.

I don't know if I'd be all that proud of that. It seems like kind of a weird Flex  

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Look at how much problem they caused the Israeli. Our supplies are top notch. 

Most of that came from Iran. And they never really touched the Israelis until they decided to just drive up and shoot them (and rape them etc)

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Army Guy said:

Violent protestor's here in Canada...more like soccer hooligans,most of those palestinian protestor's are spoiled rich white kids or old people that have no idea what true violence is....those palestinians involved in the protests are the ones that fled the violence in Gaza, and will not want any part of sticking up for canada once the chips are down....

Look i get it everyone fantasizes about living through the next massive conflict, or war or the aftermath of war...and it all good, but i can tell you with todays tech, any small group thinking about becoming a terrorist group or anything similar. you will get caught and you will be engaged, and not by some RCMP rookies, these will be people who solde job is to hunt terrorist's........the more soft target's you kill, the more attention your cell gets, and if it gets handed over to a tier one unit , you'll be able to start counting your last days on the planet...and while am not a tier one operator, I was a Canadian infantry soldier with the RCR and i know first hand the violence our boys could dole out...our unit was pretty good at hunting bad guys and giving them an interview with allah...Tier one units operated on a whole different level...  

What history, most of these countries that have had successful inserections or terrorist groups, have been religiously motivated ( Middle East) communist vietnam, these countries are normally very poor,or very religious or both...easy to convince the population to die for the cause...you have none of that here in Canada...SO history is going to pass you by here...And a lot can happen in a year, Canadians might be convinced that life is much better being a yankee...who knows maybe it will be somewhat peaceful...and Canadians are treated humanely... 

.Look i'm not going to argue with you, this was my job the entire time we were in Afghanistan, looking for bad guys and engaging them it is NOT going to be like any Movie....where kids take on the Russians, or Rambo comes out of the wood work...US soldiers are not going to come in guns a blazing...but like any soldiers from any country  you kill one and pi## them off,they are not going to have a problem sending Canadians for interviews with their maker... 

Soldiers train for these scenarios constantly, they know how to spot ambushes, or when they are being lured into a kill zone....In Afghanistan we could listen into any cell phone conversation, and using electronic warfare jams entire spectrums of frequencies all on the move....and your forgetting they have armored vehs on the ground both IFV and Tanks...., and attack helos flying above for cover, on standby is arty, fighter aircraft, rockets, bombers etc..... Most of the armoured vehs have gun shot indicators that will pinpoint any gum, missile launch....not to mention drones flying high above the convoy just above the convoy and in the middle....it takes mere seconds to find a shooter, and engage them with 25 mm which fires many different types of rounds, but you can't hide from them....I've seen a taliban take 3 rounds of 25mm all that was left was shin bones and feet in sandals....the rest was turned to pink mist...and that was done from 1000 meters, on the move...

the Average infantry guy life expectancy is 7 seconds...in a battle...against a near peer enemy....the people your going to fight is trained and equipped with more than any terrorist could dream of his life expectancy would be measured in seconds after firing one shot...and most of that happens on the move, doing about 80 kms an hour...and the soldier doing it has a wad of chew in his mouth, and a coffee in one hand...

Canadians have not experienced the violence that a modern soldier can bring to the table....what they see is in a movie or in a brief washed news clip....a couple of days of seeing the results and most will leave the battlefield for good...or die...

 

You might know stuff about our military but if you actually read history it's really clear that you're wrong.

Throughout history including recent history including very recent history there are example after example of a weaker nation with a largely untrained populace fighting back and very effectively fighting a gorilla war against an oppressor.

Ukraine was going to fall within a week. Guaranteed, virtually every military commentator said so. No way to avoid it.

Vietnam, France and world war II, Afghanistan twice, the list goes on and on And in fact religion did not play a role in most of them although it certainly played a role in some of them. 

The other interesting thing about history is that Consistently and almost without fail regular military experts severely underestimate the impact of such forces and are shocked and awed when they are suddenly remarkably effective.

Canadians are an exceptionally peaceful and nonviolent people, right up until we're not. Then we are the devil itself. And history shows that a motivated force even if it's quite small is capable of inflicting massive damage. Also shows that America and in fact democracies in general will only put up with bleeding for so long before they have had enough and give up.

 

[Aristides]

4 hours ago, herbie said:

Of course it would be a silly idea. But no one has even suggested a more sensible one.
What should we do boycott buying ALL cars and trucks?
Australia gave up its entire domestic car industry and survived. Not that we should. Building only RHD versions of vehicles here would leave us some of the market instead of none. 

If you want to keep US built cars out of the Canadian market, just ban or tariff the crap out of them. Why go to the trouble of switching to RHD.