Popular Post WestCanMan Posted April 6 Popular Post Report Posted April 6 https://ca.news.yahoo.com/conservatives-lead-first-time-federal-223147507.html Conservatives in the lead for first time in federal campaign, new poll shows It has taken a lot of stupid comments, lies, gaffes, the revealing of several of Carney's conflicts of interest, and Carney getting caught with his hands in the US gov't and China cookie jars during this trade war, plus a lot of near-perfect campaigning from Poilievre, in order for the polls to start tilting back towards the PC's in the upcoming election. No doubt the Nanos polls, controlled by ex-LPOC staffer Alexander Nanos, will continue to skew the overall polling results in favour of Nanos's leader of choice, but no intelligent human takes those into consideration. Theoretically this new conservative lead would still translate into another LPOC minority gov't (and another pre-election windfall of LPOC-directed taxpayer money for our MSM to help them in the next election), but I think the polls will swing even further after the debate. Poilievre has a ridiculous number of arrows in his quiver, and Carney has so many things to answer for, that no moderator will be able to deflect every topic away from his laundry list of lies and conflicts of interest. Poilievre will beat Carney like a rented mule on that stage. CBC will no doubt do their best to make the debate (and this election) another referendum on climate change they'll back Carneys false assertions that the PM and Finance Minister had almost nothing to do with Canada's success at avoiding the recession that the US experienced in 2008, because they love the $2,000,000,000.00 taxpayer dollars that the LPOC gave them to help them in these elections the NDP, Bloc and Greens will no doubt see Poilievre as the guy guy to beat, and gang up like the bunch of jackals they are but PP is the most skilled debater that Canada has had in the last 50 years. 5 2 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
eyeball Posted April 6 Report Posted April 6 43 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: It has taken a lot of stupid comments, lies, gaffes, the revealing of several of Carney's conflicts of interest, and Carney getting caught with his hands in the US gov't and China cookie jars during this trade war, plus a lot of near-perfect campaigning from Poilievre, in order for the polls to start tilting back towards the PC's in the upcoming election One poll. From the article; Surveys released by seven other major pollsters (Leger, Nanos, Mainstreet Research, Pollara, Angus Reid Institute, Liaison Strategies, Ekos) all continue to show the Conservatives trailing by as much as nine points. In any case, I like the idea of a tightening race possibly culminating in a minority government. Hopefully the NDP regain some ground, they should if they can make hay out of the fact Carney is aiming to become a tax collector as opposed to having been a professional tax avoider in the private sector. Talk about a conflict of interest. 2 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
WestCanMan Posted April 6 Author Report Posted April 6 21 minutes ago, eyeball said: One poll. From the article; Surveys released by seven other major pollsters (Leger, Nanos, Mainstreet Research, Pollara, Angus Reid Institute, Liaison Strategies, Ekos) all continue to show the Conservatives trailing by as much as nine points. Both of those bolded ones are owned by the same ex-LPOC staffer, just for an idea of what they're actually worth The current thread on this page about "Libs ins the lead" was posted when only 1 polling firm had the Libs in front, and all the others had them behind, so it's bang-on in accuracy from a leftist POV 😉 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
Michael Hardner Posted April 6 Report Posted April 6 1 hour ago, eyeball said: One poll. From the article; Surveys released by seven other major pollsters (Leger, Nanos, Mainstreet Research, Pollara, Angus Reid Institute, Liaison Strategies, Ekos) all continue to show the Conservatives trailing by as much as nine points. In any case, I like the idea of a tightening race possibly culminating in a minority government. Hopefully the NDP regain some ground, they should if they can make hay out of the fact Carney is aiming to become a tax collector as opposed to having been a professional tax avoider in the private sector. Talk about a conflict of interest. https://338canada.com/polls.htm The 338 reported the poll from March 29. It looks. It's been about 25 polls since then, none of which show the CPC ahead. 45 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Both of those bolded ones are owned by the same ex-LPOC staffer, just for an idea of what they're actually worth The current thread on this page about "Libs ins the lead" was posted when only 1 polling firm had the Libs in front, and all the others had them behind, so it's bang-on in accuracy from a leftist POV 😉 It would be easy to look back and compare predictions. What do you think? 2 Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Queenmandy85 Posted April 6 Report Posted April 6 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: plus a lot of near-perfect campaigning from Poilievre, in order for the polls to start tilting back towards the PC's in the upcoming election. Just to clarify, Mr. Poilievre has nothing to do with the PC's. He is the leader of the CPC (formerly Reform alias, originally Social Credit.) There is no Progressive Consevative Party federal. The latest seat counts are as follows: Canada 338 April. 6, 2025- Grits 195 seats CPC 122 seats Eric Grenier's Poll Tracker Apr. 6, 2025 - Grits 203 seats CPC 118 seats No ballots count until they are in the ballot box. I am sticking to my prediction Poilievre gets 181 seats. 1 Quote A Conservative stands for God, King and Country
eyeball Posted April 7 Report Posted April 7 49 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said: Just to clarify, Mr. Poilievre has nothing to do with the PC's. He is the leader of the CPC (formerly Reform alias, originally Social Credit.) There is no Progressive Consevative Party federal. Yabut the most salient point is they're all right wing - I say that of course with the caveat there are good positive nuances that matter. At the end of the day however there remains a naturally persistent ideological and majority inclination in Canada and amongst Canadians for progressiveness. It's almost cultural for crying out loud. Most of the above conservative types you mentioned will just as naturally vote for Poilievre. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
WestCanMan Posted April 7 Author Report Posted April 7 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: The 338 reported the poll from March 29. It looks. It's been about 25 polls since then, none of which show the CPC ahead. It would be easy to look back and compare predictions. What do you think? Polls have always overestimated the Liberals in Canada. That's just what they do. If you found a polling firm that didn't generate the results that CBC wanted, they'd just never be cited. If the poll I just posted overestimated the conservative vote then it's the first of its kind. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
betsy Posted April 7 Report Posted April 7 (edited) 12 hours ago, WestCanMan said: https://ca.news.yahoo.com/conservatives-lead-first-time-federal-223147507.html Conservatives in the lead for first time in federal campaign, new poll shows It has taken a lot of stupid comments, lies, gaffes, the revealing of several of Carney's conflicts of interest, and Carney getting caught with his hands in the US gov't and China cookie jars during this trade war, plus a lot of near-perfect campaigning from Poilievre, in order for the polls to start tilting back towards the PC's in the upcoming election. No doubt the Nanos polls, controlled by ex-LPOC staffer Alexander Nanos, will continue to skew the overall polling results in favour of Nanos's leader of choice, but no intelligent human takes those into consideration. Theoretically this new conservative lead would still translate into another LPOC minority gov't (and another pre-election windfall of LPOC-directed taxpayer money for our MSM to help them in the next election), but I think the polls will swing even further after the debate. Poilievre has a ridiculous number of arrows in his quiver, and Carney has so many things to answer for, that no moderator will be able to deflect every topic away from his laundry list of lies and conflicts of interest. Poilievre will beat Carney like a rented mule on that stage. CBC will no doubt do their best to make the debate (and this election) another referendum on climate change they'll back Carneys false assertions that the PM and Finance Minister had almost nothing to do with Canada's success at avoiding the recession that the US experienced in 2008, because they love the $2,000,000,000.00 taxpayer dollars that the LPOC gave them to help them in these elections the NDP, Bloc and Greens will no doubt see Poilievre as the guy guy to beat, and gang up like the bunch of jackals they are but PP is the most skilled debater that Canada has had in the last 50 years. Apparently, according to Power Play - Poilievre's been drawing thousands to his rallies. Carney's lead - kinda reminiscent of Harris, who was said to have surged, caught up with Trump.....and eventually said to be leading! We know what happened to that story. 😁 Edited April 7 by betsy 1 Quote
Michael Hardner Posted April 7 Report Posted April 7 10 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Polls have always overestimated the Liberals in Canada. That's just what they do. If you found a polling firm that didn't generate the results that CBC wanted, they'd just never be cited. If the poll I just posted overestimated the conservative vote then it's the first of its kind. I just did an objective assessment of the 2021 polling, and indeed it looks like pollsters are more likely to overestimate liberal response. However, to equate that to a conspiracy doesn't make sense, because polling firms are graded on their accuracy. And you're exaggerated claims that a conservative overestimation would be. The first of its kind is ridiculous. My advice is to try to trust the system a little more. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Barquentine Posted April 7 Report Posted April 7 2 hours ago, betsy said: The debate will make a difference. Maybe, maybe not. Harris kicked Trump's ass in their debate. Didn't help. Quote
WestCanMan Posted April 7 Author Report Posted April 7 (edited) 2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: I just did an objective assessment of the 2021 polling, and indeed it looks like pollsters are more likely to overestimate liberal response. The LPOC pays CBC and other "select media outlets" billions of dollars, and CBC decides what pollsters to pay attention to. You could have the most accurate polling in the history of elections, and if the MSM ignores you, your polling firm will go the way of the dinosaur. Quote However, to equate that to a conspiracy doesn't make sense, because polling firms are graded on their accuracy. There's no conspiracy. The LPOC gives the MSM billions of dollars and in turn, the MSM supports the LPOC 100%. There's nothing hidden or secret about it. Carney just offered the CBC over $1B right before this election, just like they gave MSM outlets hundreds of millions of dollars right before the 2019 election and the 2021 election. If the LPOC wins, CBC wins and Canada is dead. If the LPOC loses, the CBC is toast but the country gets a fighting chance. Quote My advice is to try to trust the system a little more. 😂 Like the Jews in 1938 Germany did. 15 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said: Just to clarify, Mr. Poilievre has nothing to do with the PC's. He is the leader of the CPC (formerly Reform alias, originally Social Credit.) There is no Progressive Consevative Party federal. I always call them PC's. Have ever since I was a kid. CPC just sounds weird to me, and they were never rooted in the Social Credit Party. Ewww. The latest seat counts are as follows: Canada 338 April. 6, 2025- Grits 195 seats CPC 122 seats Eric Grenier's Poll Tracker Apr. 6, 2025 - Grits 203 seats CPC 118 seats TBH, the only momentum that I see for Carney comes from: polls, which are always BS, and the CBC, which is always BS, and they get paid handsomely for it Carney isn't saying or doing anything at all to warrant any kind of momentum. He's just getting caught lying, getting caught lying some more, locking Nflders out of campaign stops in Nfld, getting caught telling voters in different provinces the opposite things, reversing Trudeau policy that was previously considered to be dyed-in-the-liberal-wool to bring in 'CPC' 😉 policy that was always deemed to be something-ist, saying stupid things like "I think we need a socialist housing corporation" (that's not what he called it, but that's what it is), etc. After he got busted for saying that he's the one who guided Canada's economy through the 2008 US recesion he got caught pretending that Quote No ballots count until they are in the ballot box. I am sticking to my prediction Poilievre gets 181 seats. I hope you're right Edited April 7 by WestCanMan Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
Michael Hardner Posted April 7 Report Posted April 7 33 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: 1. The LPOC gives the MSM billions of dollars and in turn, the MSM supports the LPOC 100%. 2. TBH, the only momentum that I see for Carney comes from: polls, which are always BS, and the CBC, which is always BS, and they get paid handsomely for it 3. Carney isn't saying or doing anything at all to warrant any kind of momentum. 1. I assume you mean 'the government'. So ... you're saying that CBC is biased in support of a sitting government, which is maybe true - otherwise we're in conspiracy land. 2. The polls are all lying is indeed a conspiracy theory. 3. This is subjective. Objectively ... well you don't believe in polls so I don't think we can cite anything either way. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
WestCanMan Posted April 7 Author Report Posted April 7 2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: 1. I assume you mean 'the government'. So ... you're saying that CBC is biased in support of a sitting government, which is maybe true - otherwise we're in conspiracy land. No, not "the government" at all. Every single person in Canada knows that it's Trudeau and the LPOC that the CBC has to thank for those huge cheques/bribes, so just stop being deceitful. All that anyone else in Canada had to do with that is to foot the bill. Quote So ... you're saying that CBC is biased in support of a sitting government, which is maybe true - otherwise we're in conspiracy land. The CBC's decades of deceit and LPOC service has finally led to the conservatives vowing to end them, as they rightly should, to save our democracy. We both know that if the trolls at CBC value their jobs, they have to get Carney elected. Canada is a "one-party democracy" now as far as the CBC is concerned, and I think we all know how democratic 1-party rule is. Just look at Russia, China, or the covid cult in Canada to see what that looks like. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
Zeitgeist Posted April 8 Report Posted April 8 (edited) I think we’ve had enough elites running governments in the West. Carney and Trump don’t understand the plight of working people. Poilievre’s platform is solid and builds on Canada’s strengths, namely energy and resources. He’ll build the infrastructure needed for Canada to become less dependent on U.S. trade and more energy independent. He’ll put pressure on municipalities and provinces to release land for housing and reduce regulations. Those are the main issues for Canada: cost of living and economic vitality/growth. I think Canada can overcome the US trade nonsense largely by diverting auto, steel and aluminum production damaged by Trump tariffs to domestic infrastructure projects that will open up new markets for Canadian energy and make the country more productive long term. Poilievre seems much more likely to do this than Carney because he will scrap the stupid regulations on pipelines and resource development that Carney still supports. Edited April 8 by Zeitgeist 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted April 8 Report Posted April 8 On 4/6/2025 at 3:07 PM, eyeball said: One poll. From the article; Surveys released by seven other major pollsters (Leger, Nanos, Mainstreet Research, Pollara, Angus Reid Institute, Liaison Strategies, Ekos) all continue to show the Conservatives trailing by as much as nine points. In any case, I like the idea of a tightening race possibly culminating in a minority government. Hopefully the NDP regain some ground, they should if they can make hay out of the fact Carney is aiming to become a tax collector as opposed to having been a professional tax avoider in the private sector. Talk about a conflict of interest. Nanos and many of the others just had their polls show the race is tightening dramatically as well. And others have confirmed this poll, such as abacus which has them neck and neck The tide is turning. Now we see how far it goes. 1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said: I think we’ve had enough elites running governments in the West. Carney and Trump don’t understand the plight of working people. Poilievre’s platform is solid and builds on Canada’s strengths, namely energy and resources. He’ll build the infrastructure needed for Canada to become less dependent on U.S. trade and more energy independent. He’ll put pressure on municipalities and provinces to release land for housing and reduce regulations. Those are the main issues for Canada: cost of living and economic vitality/growth. I think Canada can overcome the US trade nonsense largely by diverting auto, steel and aluminum production damaged by Trump tariffs to domestic infrastructure projects that will open up new markets for Canadian energy and make the country more productive long term. Poilievre seems much more likely to do this than Carney because he will scrap the stupid regulations on pipelines and resource development that Carney still supports. For sure. Carney knows he's out of touch. That's why he's been stealing PoilievreS platform. I think the debates are going to really showcase the difference and carney is going to have a tough time with them Quote
eyeball Posted April 8 Report Posted April 8 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: The tide is turning. Now we see how far it goes. To the middle, hopefully resulting in a minority. The times call for cooperation - Trump and America are a clear demonstration of how political domination leads to trouble. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
betsy Posted April 8 Report Posted April 8 (edited) The Conservatives deserve to win in this race, and should be given a strong mandate. It was Poilievre who's been opening our eyes about the carbon tax, about the LIBERAL bureaucracy that has crippled the county. Carney simply saw it convenient to scrap the carbon tax right now (so he says )......because, it's not popular. That's what he said when he was asked why he suddenly scrapped the carbon tax that he's advised on Trudeau to implement. Therefore - he's into polls! Carney makes decisions based on polls! Carney's political decisions are not based on what's good for the nation.....but, it's about what is popular. Lol - talk about the dark side of populism! 😁 At least, Poilievre may have some populist views.....but they're based on COMMON SENSE! Not polls! Another minority government is the last thing we need right now. It'll result in loser parties to take the governing administration hostage to their demands - just as we saw how NDP Singh played Trudeau quite well. We need a strong PM with a vision for Canada............... with the nation strongly behind him......... so he can implement to fulfill that vision that we vote for. Edited April 8 by betsy 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted April 8 Report Posted April 8 On 4/7/2025 at 7:56 AM, Michael Hardner said: My advice is to try to trust the system a little more. Lol...what a surprise. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Barquentine Posted April 8 Report Posted April 8 18 hours ago, WestCanMan said: No, not "the government" at all. Every single person in Canada knows that it's Trudeau and the LPOC that the CBC has to thank for those huge cheques/bribes, So Harper and Mulroney were bribing the CBC as well, according to you. Quote
Barquentine Posted April 8 Report Posted April 8 Show us one aggregate poll that has PeePee in the lead. Everybody knows the polls will tighten. Quote
Nationalist Posted April 8 Report Posted April 8 I predicted this would happen. The carney stole the leadership...stole the gas tax axe...but try as he will, he can't steal the federal election. People are beginning to see the carney for what he is... A globalist toady who will lie and cheat with no moral fiber to bother him. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Goddess Posted April 8 Report Posted April 8 22 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: The polls are all lying is indeed a conspiracy theory. The polls aren't so much "lying" as misleading. There was one I saw that they polled almost 3X as many boomers as anyone else, thus the result that Libs were in the lead by far. I trust the rallies. Conservatives are having massive rally turnouts. I trust what I see on social media - Lib propaganda is dominating, but the comments under the posts are not favourable. 3 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
WestCanMan Posted April 8 Author Report Posted April 8 1 hour ago, Barquentine said: So Harper and Mulroney were bribing the CBC as well, according to you. The CBC has always been pro-Liberal, always, but there was a time when the CBC was important to Canada. The CBC brought the 20th century to remote regions that no one else was servicing. Now they're just a shameless propaganda outlet with the integrity of a sewer rat. 2 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
WestCanMan Posted April 8 Author Report Posted April 8 1 hour ago, Goddess said: The polls aren't so much "lying" as misleading. There was one I saw that they polled almost 3X as many boomers as anyone else, thus the result that Libs were in the lead by far. I find it just disgusting that the Libs are still profiting from their fear-mongering and vax-fascism, and the CBC's refusal to tell people the truth about vax-efficacy, whether or not there was any benefit at all from forcing kinds to vax, etc, is one of the main reasons why they need to be axed. The CBC should never get another dollar. Sink or swim. Quote I trust the rallies. Conservatives are having massive rally turnouts. I trust what I see on social media - Lib propaganda is dominating, but the comments under the posts are not favourable. Carney has to lock fishermen out of his rallies in Nfld, and the Libs' rallies have been "members only" going back to when Trudeau was still the Grand Wizard of the LPOC. Even non-sycophant reporters were barred from entering Trudeau's rallies. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
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