I am Groot Posted March 8 Report Posted March 8 Yes, I know some of you hate Peterson. But he was willing to read Carney's book and give us quotes, and I doubt any of the rest of you will. Carney isn't just a shallow imitator like Trudeau. He's the real deal. A climate change fanatic willing to do whatever it takes to bring down CO2 emissions in Canada, regardless of how much that hurts - other people. “Our goal has been to put in place the information, tools and markets so that every financial decision takes climate change into account — to create a financial system in which a company’s contributions to climate change and climate solution are fundamental determinants of its value. So that value reflects values. At COP26 in Glasgow, we delivered twenty-four major reforms to transform the information, tools and markets at the heart of finance. These include climate stress testing, net-zero transition plans and clear, comparable and decision-useful climate disclosure so that financial markets can manage risks and seize opportunities in the climate transition.” Consider Carney’s very words, camouflaged in the moral claims that invariably accompany all such far-reaching and bone-chilling pronouncements: “Firms that align their business models with the transition to a net-zero carbon economy will be rewarded handsomely; those that fail to adapt will cease to exist.” https://nationalpost.com/opinion/jordan-peterson-mark-carney-doesnt-value-a-prosperous-canada https://archive.is/Bp8xO 2 Quote
eyeball Posted March 8 Report Posted March 8 28 minutes ago, I am Groot said: Consider Carney’s very words, camouflaged in the moral claims that invariably accompany all such far-reaching and bone-chilling pronouncements: Is that the spooky sound of a Theremin I hear in the background? 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Legato Posted March 8 Report Posted March 8 1 minute ago, eyeball said: Is that the spooky sound of a Theremin I hear in the background? No, that's tinnitus, probably caused by lack of climate change. Carney can fix it. Quote
eyeball Posted March 8 Report Posted March 8 16 minutes ago, Legato said: No, that's tinnitus, probably caused by lack of climate change. Carney can fix it. Not with the worthless plan he stole from PP. And they both plan on building more pipelines too. It must be the sound of angels singing the praises of the fossil fuel industry I hear. They'll get to laugh all the way to the bank no matter who wins. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Legato Posted March 8 Report Posted March 8 Mark Carney’s greatest skill appears to be his remarkable ability to find a soft landing when things get complicated. His most recent exit was on Jan. 15 from GFANZ, an organization he founded and co-chaired which is now being investigated by the U.S. House Judiciary Committee for allegedly violating antitrust laws by pressuring companies to adopt net-zero goals. Whatever political motivations may be behind this probe, it indicates a major decline in popularity for the kind of climate-focused agenda Carney had been pushing. Full article here...... https://nationalpost.com/opinion/terry-newman-climate-carney-conveniently-side-steps-investigation 1 Quote
WestCanMan Posted March 8 Report Posted March 8 (edited) 2 hours ago, I am Groot said: Consider Carney’s very words, camouflaged in the moral claims that invariably accompany all such far-reaching and bone-chilling pronouncements: “Firms that align their business models with the transition to a net-zero carbon economy will be rewarded handsomely; those that fail to adapt will cease to exist.” https://nationalpost.com/opinion/jordan-peterson-mark-carney-doesnt-value-a-prosperous-canada https://archive.is/Bp8xO So we could end up with a PM that's going to shut down businesses that don't comply with his enviro-fascist kookery and a Deputy PM who wants nukes to point at DC. Can we maybe find a defence minister that wants to bomb Beijing while we're at it? And a minister of foreign affairs who continues Trudeau's policy of calling Japan "China"? And of course we need an Ambassador to India to keep poking that bear as well. Oh, and we will also keep on giving weapons to other countries that are attacking Russia. When you take it all in, in one fell swoop, Canada is really getting up to a lot of shit with global superpowers under Trudeau. Here are some of the items that the Trudeau Gov't's foreign policy agenda check-marked in the last 4 years: Calling the Japanese PM Chinese, twice Ongoing feud with India, a multi-layered approach to dampening relations Gave Ukraine weapons to use against Russia Jailing the CEO of one of China's largest companies Asking for nukes to point at America That's the world's top 4 superpowers, plus Japan, which is definitely a top 10 superpower and top 5 economically, that Trudeau's gov't has pissed off now. 😂 Who's the 6th-ranked superpower? Should Trudeau go kick their PM/President in the nuts now, to round out his "kick the superpower hornets' nests" tour? Maybe Britain? France? Germany? NoKo? Why would I just assume that he hasn't already pissed them off? If PP did all those things the CBC would be going apoplectic 24/7. Edited March 8 by WestCanMan Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
herbie Posted March 8 Report Posted March 8 So now anyone who doesn't deny climate change is a fanatic, eh? Nice f*cking try. PP Puppet. 3 Quote
cougar Posted March 8 Report Posted March 8 3 hours ago, I am Groot said: Yes, I know some of you hate Peterson. But he was willing to read Carney's book and give us quotes, and I doubt any of the rest of you will. I will vote for Carney. That is how it should be. If he is serious about climate change though he has to stop the flow of immigrants first. Quote
ironstone Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 20 hours ago, cougar said: I will vote for Carney. That is how it should be. If he is serious about climate change though he has to stop the flow of immigrants first. Carney will not do that. He will however, continue with the same climate change zealotry as it was under Trudeau. Canadian emissions bad, Western emissions bad, Chinese emissions perfectly fine. Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
Army Guy Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 On 3/8/2025 at 5:39 PM, cougar said: I will vote for Carney. That is how it should be. If he is serious about climate change though he has to stop the flow of immigrants first. Good , glad you thought it all out....but if your serious about climate change why not green party... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
cougar Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 10 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Good , glad you thought it all out....but if your serious about climate change why not green party... They never win. All they are is liberals spray painted in green. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 Climate change is real, and caused by humans. If you can't acknowledge that, then you don't enjoy reality. If you can, then we might be able to have an intelligent conversation. 1 Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Iceni warrior Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 (edited) 5 hours ago, ironstone said: Carney will not do that. He will however, continue with the same climate change zealotry as it was under Trudeau. Canadian emissions bad, Western emissions bad, Chinese emissions perfectly fine. A large portion of China's emissions are Western emissions. The West has exported it's manufacturing and therefore it's emissions for the sake of the bottom line. Ever since Thatcher proclaimed ''there is no alternative'' (to globalisation) we have been exporting our carbon footprint. China's emissions aren't fine, they are ours and we need to own up to it rather than blaming China for it. Edited March 10 by Iceni warrior Quote
CdnFox Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 On 3/8/2025 at 11:10 AM, eyeball said: Not with the worthless plan he stole from PP. And they both plan on building more pipelines too. I'm sorry did you think the liberals were moral? They do whatever they have to win, they don't give a crap about Canada or climate change or you or anything else other than having power and the money that comes with it You had 10 years to fix the climate, you did nothing. It's pretty much off the table for everybody now At least you can take solace in this, just like every liberal I'm sure he will break his promises. You'll have a carbon tax again in one form or another if he wins. On 3/8/2025 at 12:32 PM, herbie said: So now anyone who doesn't deny climate change is a fanatic, eh? Nice f*cking try. PP Puppet. Anyone who claims it's an instant emergency that requires our immediate attention...... and then in the same breath pretends that a climate carbon tax would do absolutely anything to resolve it is definitely a fanatic Sorry little lefty cultist Quote
Legato Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 26 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Climate change is real, and caused by humans. If you can't acknowledge that, then you don't enjoy reality. If you can, then we might be able to have an intelligent conversation. Climate change caused humans so nothing has really changed. 1 Quote
cougar Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 1 minute ago, Legato said: Climate change caused humans so nothing has really changed. The blind will never see. Quote
Legato Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 Just now, cougar said: The blind will never see. Speaking from experience? 1 Quote
ironstone Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 32 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Climate change is real, and caused by humans. If you can't acknowledge that, then you don't enjoy reality. If you can, then we might be able to have an intelligent conversation. I'm sure Carney will emulate Trudeau and be flying all over the world with a huge entourage to spread the word. 2 Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
CdnFox Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 50 minutes ago, ironstone said: I'm sure Carney will emulate Trudeau and be flying all over the world with a huge entourage to spread the word. Not to mention spending billions on 'Consultants", and those companies will be more than happy to offer him a board position where he does nothing and makes hundreds of thousands a year after he's done pretending to be prime minister. Quote
eyeball Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: I'm sorry did you think the liberals were moral? Only you could ask such a stupid fùcking question. LMAO! 2 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 8 minutes ago, eyeball said: Only you could ask such a stupid fùcking question. LMAO! You're right. You're a liberal supporter and have no morals so you already knew the answer Silly me Quote
I am Groot Posted March 10 Author Report Posted March 10 On 3/8/2025 at 4:39 PM, cougar said: I will vote for Carney. That is how it should be. If he is serious about climate change though he has to stop the flow of immigrants first. Spending two trillion on climate change that will accomplish absolutely NOTHING is moronic. I don't want to see Canada impoverished while the developing world rushes forward into wealth by using cheap coal powered energy to sell us the products we can no longer afford to make due to high energy costs. China doesn't have to be net zero for another 35 years. India and much of the rest of the developing world for another 45 years. They're going to get rich while we get poor. They'll then have the resources to cope with a warming world while we lack them. On 3/8/2025 at 3:32 PM, herbie said: So now anyone who doesn't deny climate change is a fanatic, eh? Nice f*cking try. PP Puppet. Climate change exists. It's happening. And nothing we do is going to have ANY impact on it. Spending $2 trillion on climate change will have no more impact than everyone in Canada wearing **** hats. I'd rather we all wear **** hats. It's way cheaper. Quote
CdnFox Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 1 minute ago, I am Groot said: Spending two trillion on climate change that will accomplish absolutely NOTHING is moronic. I don't want to see Canada impoverished while the developing world rushes forward into wealth by using cheap coal powered energy to sell us the products we can no longer afford to make due to high energy costs. China doesn't have to be net zero for another 35 years. India and much of the rest of the developing world for another 45 years. They're going to get rich while we get poor. They'll then have the resources to cope with a warming world while we lack them. If those who claim that there is a severe climate emergency were serious they would be focused on developing new technology and demanding that our money went towards that immediately. The technology we currently have does not support being carbon neutral in any real sense. What they do support is taxes or fake credits. I think that tells all the story that we need told Quote
ironstone Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 3 hours ago, Iceni warrior said: China's emissions aren't fine, they are ours and we need to own up to it rather than blaming China for it. As usual, the West has to carry the burden. The Liberals are really pushing EV's which are still rather pricey...but last October they slap 100% tariffs on much more affordable Chinese EV's and steel and aluminum. Mixed signals? Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
WestCanMan Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 One thing that Peterson actually brought to my attention was the fact that rising energy costs affect the poorest people disproportionately. When the Carney's climate taxes force energy prices up, an extra $20 for a tank of gas and an extra $200/mo on the heating bill doesn't affect a person who's mortgage-free with two rental properties, and has over ten thousand a month in expendable income, but lower-income families going through 4 or 5 tanks of gas a month getting to and from work and getting their kids to and from school, etc, will be paying an extra $300/mo, and that is coming out of their expendable income. By the time you make a mtg/rent payment, pay your income tax, buy groceries, pay car and home ins, pay phone/electricity/gas/cable bills, make 1 or 2 car payments, student loans, pay for clothes, kids' sports, maybe get the occasional bike, etc, etc, $300 is a lot. Sure, they could save money by not driving, and turning the heat down to 18° but then they would be not working. So the Leo DiCaprios and Mark Carneys can still fly in private jets and cruise in mega yachts just as easily as ever, but the poor people who get sucked in by leftist gov'ts will feel the pinch bigtime. 1 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
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