Carney wants Canada to remain "woke". That should go over well.

Videospirit · February 20

On 2/5/2025 at 5:17 PM, Chrissy1979 said:

How do you define woke?

If we look at the origin of the term, a synonym for woke would be enlightened. It is the opposite of ignorance.

But people were kind of caught off guard when the right started throwing the word around and the messaging to communicate this could use some work.

CdnFox · February 20

41 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Then why does he need an AGW plan?

As long as it doesn't cost the economy why not? There are a lot of people internationally who are equally as dumb as you and will be impressed by something that doesn't work but sounds good. If we can keep them happy for free why not

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Yup, in the same half-hearted way Poilievre keeps approaching it. I think it's fair to say everyone is exhausted with the issue, mostly because they know it's not going to go away no matter how much they might wish it would.

It's because they're no longer thinking it's serious due to the fact that people like you had 10 years to make a substantial change but wasted it but the useless carbon tracks that they didn't even bother to track whether it was effective or not.

If people like you who claim to say that it's super important to Kathy bothered to do anything about it except steal money, why should anyone else?

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Trump is actually the most honest politician about his own personal position when he says it's bullshit.

True, he's vastly more honest than you or trudeau who pretend to care about it and yet do absolutely nothing except steal money

45 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I realize that trump is more honest than me, a pig who pretended to care about the environment but didn't really. The truth is I don't care about the environment, but I do care about virtue signaling and I care about stealing people's money for politicians that I believe in. I'm well aware of the climate change situation is not a crisis

Yeah. We know.

eyeball · February 20

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Yeah. We know...

...conservatives vote for virtue signalling liars too.

CdnFox · February 21

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

...conservatives vote for virtue signalling liars too.

They don't. But you like to tell yourself they do so that you can feel better about your own choices

taxme · February 22

On 2/20/2025 at 4:29 AM, Chrissy1979 said:

Anybody stupid enough to think Carney is a lefty is stupid enough to support a dumb fascist like Trump.

You people are an embarrassment and you're only just starting to realize how stupid you are.

Carney is more of a WEF globalist and pro-globalism and wants to keep pushing woke left wing causes. That does make him somewhat of a left wing liberal. I think that you really are the stupid one here. Just saying. 😇

herbie · February 22

Just as they've redefined everything else, being opposed to free trade is now defined as conservatism.
As if the ones smashing windows and overturning cars during economic meetings are model right wingers.....

PIK · February 22

53 minutes ago, taxme said:

Carney is more of a WEF globalist and pro-globalism and wants to keep pushing woke left wing causes. That does make him somewhat of a left wing liberal. I think that you really are the stupid one here. Just saying. 😇

They don't realize carney is stealing PP policies.Typical liberal move. Campaign from the centre, Govern from the left. How does a man that spent his life fighting for what he believes in, only to do a 180° on his beliefs to win a election?

BeaverFever · February 22

On 2/5/2025 at 4:57 PM, CdnFox said:

So carney got the opportunity to change the election from a carbon tax election to something else, and he went with making it an election on 'woke'.

With this guy leading the party in the next election campaign, the liberals will be lucky to get enough seats to fill a Hugo. I was going to say 'smart car' but given the circumstances that seems wildly inappropriate.

In that clip all he said was “Canadians will continue to value inclusiveness” which is not what you and the tweet claim.

BeaverFever · February 22

14 minutes ago, PIK said:

They don't realize carney is stealing PP policies.Typical liberal move. Campaign from the centre, Govern from the left.

Actually the “typical” complaint about liberals historically has been they campaign from the left but govern from the right.

To make your post accurate you should say “typical of Trudeau liberals” rather than the liberal party in general. Even then one could probably argue Trudeau both campaigned and governed from the left.

CdnFox · February 22

6 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

In that clip all he said was “Canadians will continue to value inclusiveness” which is not what you and the tweet claim.

That's not all he said, he said south of the border they're waging war on woke while canada will continue to value inclusiveness. Indicating that he considers "inclusiveness" to mean the same thing people say when they refer to woke. You don't mention them in the same breath like that otherwise.

Nice try

BeaverFever · February 22

8 hours ago, CdnFox said:

That's not all he said, he said south of the border they're waging war on woke while canada will continue to value inclusiveness. Indicating that he considers "inclusiveness" to mean the same thing people say when they refer to woke. You don't mention them in the same breath like that otherwise.

Nice try

He’s clearly saying he won’t join America’s “war on woke” because it doesn’t value inclusiveness. But that’s not the same as promising Canada will remain “woke”

BTW the term woke itself means different things to different people. For some it simply means enlightened, considerate and inclusive, ie anything progressive. To others “woke” is pejorative that only refers to when those progressive ideals are applied in absurd or unreasonable ways. To Republicans it’s just become another throw-away insult they use against everyone and everything. Believing climate change is real is woke. Not wanting to poison the water table is woke. The Republican “war on woke” includes witch hunts to blame every accident, mishap and negative news event on a female or non-white person and to suggest that anyone who is not a straight white male is inherently unqualified for any job.

ironstone · February 22

15 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Actually the “typical” complaint about liberals historically has been they campaign from the left but govern from the right.

Nobody can say that about the Trudeau government. It's all been far-left with them.

eyeball · February 22

2 minutes ago, ironstone said:

Nobody can say that about the Trudeau government. It's all been far-left with them.

Yawn...except to the normal left that have long long known that Liberals actually campaign like the NDP then rule like Conservatives.

ironstone · February 22

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Yawn...except to the normal left that have long long known that Liberals actually campaign like the NDP then rule like Conservatives.

What has the Trudeau government done that could be considered as governing like Conservatives?

eyeball · February 22

2 minutes ago, ironstone said:

What has the Trudeau government done that could be considered as governing like Conservatives?

Increasing economic inequality and widening the gap between rich and poor.

The same thing that always happens when Conservatives are in power.

CdnFox · February 22

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

He’s clearly saying he won’t join America’s “war on woke” because it doesn’t value inclusiveness. But that’s not the same as promising Canada will remain “woke”

It absolutely is. Inclusiveness is another buzz word for woke. It's all the things we're sick of here. More culture war, more spending our energy and focus on bathroom use, more forcing parents to let their kids participate in month long gay pride events while their own cultural religious events are excluded, more seperating and dividing people instead of bringing them together, more banning students for the crime of saying "i think there's only two genders", more hate more bigotry more denying that parents have rights to know what's happening with their children.

That's ALL covered under 'inclusiveness" and after 10 years people are 100 percent sick of it. In fact it would be one of the better talking points for PP, "Do you want a gov't that's focused on prosecuting people for pronoun use? Or do you want a gov't who's focused on rebuilding the economy and dealing with trump?

People right now are like "Screw the gays, screw the trans, screw the DEI's, i want to be able to afford rent and food".

Simple as that. When times are great like when harper turned over the country in 2015 with balanced budgets and strong growth etc people can afford to ignore that. But right now? People aren't interested in things that benefit a tiny portion of the population, they want to be safe themselves.

Legato · February 22

31 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Increasing economic inequality and widening the gap between rich and poor.

The same thing that always happens when Conservatives are in power.

You mean like it is today?

herbie · February 22

PP's war on woke is part of the cross border fallout about it and sinks deep in the mediocre mind of rednecks and haters alike. Unfortunately the majority of Canadians aren't haters and rednecks.
It's a necessary distraction to sell the Tories 'Common Sense Solutions' to the people who haven't any. It would be truthful to call them Simple Solutions for Simple Minds.

CdnFox · February 22

1 hour ago, Legato said:

You mean like it is today?

Yes but you see conservatives were in power before and they probably will be again so it's still their fault even tho it's been liberals for the last 10 years.

Yeash, don't you know anything?

16 minutes ago, herbie said:

PP's war on woke is part of the cross border fallout about it and sinks deep in the mediocre mind of rednecks and haters alike. Unfortunately the majority of Canadians aren't haters and rednecks.

And yet the majority of Canadians are sick of the woke

Which means you're wrong. You live in an echo chamber bubble where you can convince yourself that up is down, left is right, and black is white, and then you wonder why you get killed at the next zebra crossing.

The left is toast. People have realized if you vote woke you go broke.

Videospirit · February 22

2 hours ago, Legato said:

You mean like it is today?

Yeah, Liberals aren't doing the greatest job making life affordable. Which is why we criticize them for governing like conservatives, at least economically.

The right sees them being socially liberal and campaigning on being socially liberal, the left sees them governing economically conservative and not focusing too much on the economy while campaigning.

But if you're upset about the job Liberals are doing on the economy, voting for the conservatives is an insane response. Contrary to right wingers beliefs, Liberals do not lack the attention span to focus on both social issues and economic issues at the same time. The reason they're messing up the economy so badly is not because they're spending too much energy on social issues, it's because, despite spending adequate focus on the economy, conservative economics are awful.

Legato · February 22

3 minutes ago, Videospirit said:

Yeah, Liberals aren't doing the greatest job making life affordable. Which is why we criticize them for governing like conservatives, at least economically.

The right sees them being socially liberal and campaigning on being socially liberal, the left sees them governing economically conservative and not focusing too much on the economy while campaigning.

But if you're upset about the job Liberals are doing on the economy, voting for the conservatives is an insane response. Contrary to right wingers beliefs, Liberals do not lack the attention span to focus on both social issues and economic issues at the same time. The reason they're messing up the economy so badly is not because they're spending too much energy on social issues, it's because, despite spending adequate focus on the economy, conservative economics are awful.

also if you make an apple pie with lemons don't complain when the pie dish hits you along side the head.

eyeball · February 22

2 hours ago, Legato said:

You mean like it is today?

That's what I said yup.

CdnFox · February 23

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

That's what I said yup.

It actually is what you said LOLOL That's what makes it so damn funny You're complaining about the wealth divide growing under the conservatives when it's growing even faster than normal under the liberals and he's absolutely right you say it'll change under the conservatives you mean exactly the way it is today ROFLMAO!

You just say stuff without realizing how absolutely that crap crazy you sound sometimes. Imagine trying to sell that the conservatives are going to do something that the liberals are doing worse than the conservatives ever have

The conservatives would actually be an improvement. Wealthy people get wealthy under the conservatives but the poor and the middle class ALSO go up. Under the libs, the poor and the middle class suffers and only the wealthy go up.

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