PIK Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: Why? The US is the only country threatening us. Also from the north and from many other countries. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
NAME REMOVED Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 9 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: he sure put the fear of God into Canada No he did not. If anything, he united Canadians, and underestimated our response. The only thing this will accomplish, is for Canada to become more militant in negotiations, the next time around. We don't take threats too lightly, and it seems neither does Mexico, Colombia or the EU. 1 Quote
eyeball Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 1 minute ago, ExFlyer said: ...if Trudeau had stepped down and called an election, this would all have been moot but, he is hanging on and Trump is gonna trump him LOL If Trudeau calls an election and Trump endorses Poilievre, Poilievre will drop 20 points just like that. No matter what happens the next election will be about Trump. The timing couldn't be worse for Poilievre. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 5 minutes ago, PIK said: Also from the north and from many other countries. Well sure, the US does have military bases all around the world. And it's the only country talking about using force to make us American. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 21 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: he sure put the fear of God into Canada He's putting the fear of chaos into the world and we're the front line in its defense. 22 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: NATO doesn't buy it I'm quite sure NATO will buy it if we focus on defending our southern border. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Army Guy Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 1 hour ago, DUI_Offender said: So i drink to much, and lie at every chance i get.... I am a proud liberal, and will always follow the liberal ways i secretively want to destroy this great country and other canadians.... I have never been able to serve my country and hate any military guys because they stole my only girlfriend and my mom.... ...and so did both my Grandparents in World War II. However, they never acted like they were superior to others. Then again, they never hid in a corner, when a dictator threatened us. If anything, I am starting to realise the need to allot more funds to our Armed Forces, if the end result is people who join the military end up like you. just to clear the air i have never said my serving makes me a better person than you....It was after all YOU that has accused me of being a traitor...for having a much different opinion than yours...that is my crime....So i asked you what have you ever done to serve your nation....that would make you better than me, to be able to judge a person you have not even met....your just a key board warrior who has done much less for this country than the average joe....a nobody really... Good on your grandparents.....my family has a long line of those that served, my dad served his dad served, both my son and daughter are serving today....that and 2 bucks might get you a cup of coffee at tims.... Well maybe if you got off the couch, and went down to the recruiting center you to could have continued that tradition of serving your nation, you and every other Canadians can do the same thing, see the world , meet the best Canadians in the country, and have an very interesting career...then you to can see what it is like to serve a nation of guys like you, ungrateful, who only think of themselves, who only want to see you when there is trouble or a crises... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Dougie93 Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 19 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: No he did not. whatever helps you sleep at night, bro it's pretty obvious that Trump got what he wanted while Canada did things it would never do otherwise one wonders what else Trump can force Canada to do, that Canada should be doing anyways Trump for Prime Minister, anyone ? Quote
Army Guy Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 15 minutes ago, eyeball said: He's putting the fear of chaos into the world and we're the front line in its defense. I'm quite sure NATO will buy it if we focus on defending our southern border. NATO already sees us as an unreliable partner....why would they change all of that to protect anything Canadian....There are consequences of not paying our bills...want a seat at the table you got to follow the rules.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
NAME REMOVED Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 (edited) 35 minutes ago, eyeball said: If Trudeau calls an election and Trump endorses Poilievre, Poilievre will drop 20 points just like that. No matter what happens the next election will be about Trump. The timing couldn't be worse for Poilievre. People who have endorsed Poilievre: Elon Musk Joe Rogan Jordan Peterson Bill Ackman Ben Shapiro Alex Jones Conrad Black In other words, all the oligarchs and far right media personnel have endorsed PP. Edited February 4 by DUI_Offender Quote
Army Guy Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 30 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: No he did not. If anything, he united Canadians, and underestimated our response. The only thing this will accomplish, is for Canada to become more militant in negotiations, the next time around. We don't take threats too lightly, and it seems neither does Mexico, Colombia or the EU. Do you think Trump really cares about what we think or do....did he just pull these tariffs out of his a$$ and spin the globe and we poped up....Canada is a weak target, we have weak leadership, leadership he does not like to make it worse...our economy is on the verge of a recession, our dollar is tanking, and we have leadership talking about going to fight the worlds largest economy....what would he be afraid of again.... mexico is putting 10,000 troops on the border and they got a one month reprieve...we rented 4 helos and said we might put 1.38 bil towards our borders....thinking that was going to be enough....not by a long shot...Columbia has already told trump china will not get the canal, they are taking their own people back, so they backed down and settled....EU is next trump has already stated that....Canada decided to spit in his face and picked a fight....the only one to do so... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
eyeball Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 21 minutes ago, Army Guy said: NATO already sees us as an unreliable partner....why would they change all of that to protect anything Canadian.. Because now they see the US as an even more unreliable partner...to the point of being a threat. 22 minutes ago, Army Guy said: ...There are consequences of not paying our bills...want a seat at the table you got to follow the rules.... It's all so much water under the bridge now with Trump flooding the world with shit. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 58 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Justin pi$$ed off Trump during his first presidency and, like and elephant, Trump never forgets and will keep on slamming Canada to get back at Justin. Had Justin just stepped down and called an election, this would all b gone but hey...Justin is still pi$$ing off Trump and we will pay. That is the current state of affairs 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
eyeball Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: Justin is still pi$$ing off Trump and we will pay. Trump just peed himself and Trudeau got the credit. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
PIK Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 9 minutes ago, eyeball said: Trump just peed himself and Trudeau got the credit. Not really on the credit thing, they will try to make it sound that way. But it was Ford and the other premiers ,except Smith that got the job done. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
CdnFox Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 1 hour ago, eyeball said: If Trudeau calls an election and Trump endorses Poilievre, Poilievre will drop 20 points just like that. No matter what happens the next election will be about Trump. The timing couldn't be worse for Poilievre. The polls say that people believe Poilievre is the best person to face trump. He would have been better off without this but honestly it's not going to hurt him. At this point it's still the liberals with about 40 to 50 seats from the dust settles Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
eyeball Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 2 minutes ago, CdnFox said: The polls say that people believe Poilievre is the best person to face trump. Sure, just wait until Trump is saying that. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 1 minute ago, PIK said: Not really on the credit thing, they will try to make it sound that way. But it was Ford and the other premiers ,except Smith that got the job done. I don't know if anyone did. I'm pretty sure this is pretty much what he planned all the way along. I've been kind of saying that since the beginning. Trump's negotiation method is to act crazy, make all kinds of wild scary statements, confuse the issue and everyone's in a panic then and only then does he step up and say what he really wants but rarely does the crazy stuff. I think no matter what any of those people did this is how it would have ended. I don't think trump blinked, I don't think he ever had any real intention of applying tariffs unless he absolutely was forced to but that he wanted to make sure he set the stage for his negotiations on trade and maybe get a little something for the borders. I mean this is what i said would happen weeks ago in the end, tho as i said you never know with trump and that's exactly what he wants 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: Sure, just wait until Trump is saying that. Frankly that actually would help polievre. There's a difference between endorsing him and saying I can work with him. Trudeau shot himself in the foot that way because he has deliberately antagonized trump and people see that as a mistake. I know I know, you're desperate to create a fantasy where you're superhero liberals can win another election but I'm afraid that it's just not going to work out that way. Theoretically anything's possible in Canadian politics but that's a long shot Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
eyeball Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 4 minutes ago, CdnFox said: I mean this is what i said would happen weeks ago in the end, tho as i said you never know with trump and that's exactly what he wants Sure. I was saying months ago a Trump victory preceding a Canadian election would provide all the pause Canadians would need to recall why they're wary of right wing politicians and their warped vision for the world. I'm not saying Poilievre won't win but it'll be with nowhere near the majority he might have had and with nowhere near the margin of support he'll need to secure more than one majority. Meanwhile, Americans will probably be ready to elect the Green Party once Trump is finished with them. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: Sure. I was saying months ago a Trump victory preceding a Canadian election would provide all the pause Canadians would need to recall why they're wary of right wing politicians and their warped vision for the world. And you were wrong. Quote I'm not saying Poilievre won't win but it'll be with nowhere near the majority he might have had and with nowhere near the margin of support he'll need to secure more than one majority. Yeah it will. Quote Meanwhile, Americans will probably be ready to elect the Green Party once Trump is finished with them. No they won't. The tariffs never actually happened, Americans never actually suffered. In the end they'll look at it as trump fixed the economy and made things better and then JD Vance will step in and say listen I'm sort of like Trump but I'm a lot more sane and moderate and I'm looking for ways to bring people together and he'll walk away with the next term. The democrats in the meantime will bring Boy George out of retirement and make the entire election about dei, transsexualism, the right is Hitler, all the voters in the last election are stupid, and basically get their clocks cleaned again. Sorry, I suppose I should have said spoiler alert Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Zeitgeist Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 (edited) I want to call Trump’s bluff of 51st state. I want to hear how he would propose to implement the transition and how Canada’s social safety net and different federal departments would be integrated. Let’s hear an honest, considered proposal. I think Canadians would be interested in hearing the pitch as a positive option for Canadians rather than as an option chosen through pressure. Explain the value for Canadians. That’s the only way it could happen smoothly and successfully, if it’s freely chosen. My thinking is that this is an opportunity to look at all possibilities for both countries, including forms of economic union that retain the national sovereignty of both countries. What are the advantages and disadvantages of each for both countries. Let’s get creative and do something special. The only option that works is the one both countries want. Edited February 4 by Zeitgeist Quote
myata Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 8 hours ago, suds said: So basically you've made up Yes because I have the eyes of my own, I read the history and I trust myself to judge the events when and as I see them. Whether it was intended as the thing, the Nazi salute we will never know because only one person knows it and he cannot be trusted. But yes, true it looked terribly close to that thing. This is what I saw with my eyes and this is my judgement on the matter. If you're past that ability, to see with your eyes and judge with your own brain so be it and good luck in the endeavours. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
Chrissy1979 Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 18 hours ago, betsy said: I think CANADA better vote for any party leader for PM..................EXCEPT the Liberal! Trump could've had a fixation on the Liberal Party, thanks to Justin. Getting rid of the Liberal Party (the leaders that he said he doesn't agree with)................. ...............might be the UNSPOKEN message being signalled by Trump to Canada. Suspicious that you won’t identify what your first language is. It sure ain’t English. But after watching real Canadians unite against trump, are you feeling like your attempt at looking “Canadian” is failing miserably? If you’re an immigrant who is actually posting from Canada (and not China, as I suspect), are you feeling you don’t belong here? Everyone else seems to think so. 😂 Quote
ExFlyer Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 (edited) 14 hours ago, eyeball said: If Trudeau calls an election and Trump endorses Poilievre, Poilievre will drop 20 points just like that. No matter what happens the next election will be about Trump. The timing couldn't be worse for Poilievre. Sure is better than a continual battle with Trump. I am not sure Trump will "endorse" PP but PP sure won't pi$$ him off like Trudeau did and does. Edited February 4 by ExFlyer Quote It can be dangerous to believe things just because you want them to be true. - Sagan
ExFlyer Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 13 hours ago, eyeball said: Trump just peed himself and Trudeau got the credit. Whoa there....it seems to me that Trump got exactly what he asked for....more security at the southern and northern borders paid for by Canada and Mexico. Sounds like a win for Trump to me LOL. A simple threat of tariff and Canada and Mexico gave in (or got a one month reprieve). What will the next threat be? 1 Quote It can be dangerous to believe things just because you want them to be true. - Sagan
betsy Posted February 4 Author Report Posted February 4 3 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Whoa there....it seems to me that Trump got exactly what he asked for....more security at the southern and northern borders paid for by Canada and Mexico. Sounds like a win for Trump to me LOL. A simple threat of tariff and Canada and Mexico gave in (or got a one month reprieve). What will the next threat be? Trudeau sweetened the pot and and agreed to these additonals: fentanyl Czar list cartels as terrorists ensures 24/7 eyes on the border launch a joint US/Canada strike force to combat organized crime, Timer - 0:40 Quote
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