suds Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 29 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: There is no real fentanyl crisis on our border. That’s a straight lie. To discuss that seriously is to humour a delusion. Fact: we’re not going to completely eliminate fentanyl from our country and therefore we can’t guarantee that a tiny percentage of that won’t leak across the border. They did confiscate 44 lbs. of the stuff which is enough to kill close to 10 million people. And it's public knowledge that fentanyl made in canada is not only used for domestic purposes but is being exported around the globe. God only knows how much of the stuff isn't confiscated and manages to get through. Please fill me in on what our governments are doing about that. Nothing for us to be proud of here. 1 Quote
Army Guy Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 7 hours ago, Zeitgeist said: Which makes me think the whole threat is a game to extract as much as he can out of a trade deal. We need to take a similarly ridiculous position of removing items from previous trade agreements, such as access to our resources. If we’re going to get screwed we might as well screw back. Energy and resources are our ace in the hole. Trump doesn’t need any of it? Cool and the Gang. We’ll ship to Germany, China, anybody but the U.S. Let’s start with refining our oil and shipping it to Ontario. Cut the price of fuel in half at the pumps. Make Canada affordable for Canadians. My question is Why have we not done this before, why are we content on inter provincial tarifs as well, why have we not driven pipelines all across this country....According to justin there is not a business case for it...They are however two points that is on PP radar, and some of many he said he is going to implement them.... But this is not our first meeting with trump and tariffs why did we not learn anything on the first time and diversified our trade back then....no we were more interested in diversification of the work place, must have got the memos mixed up... Sometimes i think we as a nation have to learn everything the hard way.... like this fight with trump... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 1 hour ago, SpankyMcFarland said: There is no real fentanyl crisis on our border. That’s a straight lie. To discuss that seriously is to humour a delusion. Fact: we’re not going to completely eliminate fentanyl from our country and therefore we can’t guarantee that a tiny percentage of that won’t leak across the border. Not what the RCMP and CBSA are saying. Justin says our borders are fine, and yet CBSA says they can only inspect a small fractions of trucks and containers entering our country....and RCMP say they don't have the manpower or budget to to deliver enough policing to crack the drug problem... Canada has almost 10,000 deaths from fentanyl since 2016...and 10,000 more have been admitted to hospital just from fentanyl How is that not a problem even our health care has said it is a crises....which is why we have public drug useage areas, teams delivering narcan to the streets...Cartels are moving processing plants for fentanyl to canada becasue it is easier to get stuff across the northern border than the southern border...How is that not a problem... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
SpankyMcFarland Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 20 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Not what the RCMP and CBSA are saying. Justin says our borders are fine, and yet CBSA says they can only inspect a small fractions of trucks and containers entering our country....and RCMP say they don't have the manpower or budget to to deliver enough policing to crack the drug problem... Canada has almost 10,000 deaths from fentanyl since 2016...and 10,000 more have been admitted to hospital just from fentanyl How is that not a problem even our health care has said it is a crises....which is why we have public drug useage areas, teams delivering narcan to the streets...Cartels are moving processing plants for fentanyl to canada becasue it is easier to get stuff across the northern border than the southern border...How is that not a problem... Relatively speaking, the export of fentanyl to the US from Canada is a small part of their problem compared to Mexico. Our producers simply can’t compete on price. Surely, that is obvious? Of course, the real drivers of this malign industry are the users. How about talking up the importance of personal responsibility instead of blaming our country here? And what does the flabby orange balloon have to say about the drugs and guns flowing north? Has anybody told him about them? Quote
eyeball Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 1 hour ago, suds said: They did confiscate 44 lbs. of the stuff which is enough to kill close to 10 million people. They confiscated 21000 lbs of the stuff which is enough to kill 4 billion Americans. And apparently that's just a fraction of what's coming in. Where the hell do they put it all? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
August1991 Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: My question is Why have we not done this before, why are we content on inter provincial tarifs as well, why have we not driven pipelines all across this country.... ... Trump is correct. There are many trade barriers between Canadian provinces and the US and Canada. "Why can't we buy beer in New Brunswick and bring it to Ontario?" Quote
August1991 Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 48 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Relatively speaking, the export of fentanyl to the US from Canada is a small part of their problem compared to Mexico. ... Agreed. If I were Carney, I would make this plain. Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 2 hours ago, suds said: If this has nothing to do with U.S. security Correct. Quote
suds Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 9 minutes ago, August1991 said: Agreed. If I were Carney, I would make this plain. If we didn't have Mexico to compare volumes to, would it be a problem then considering how little volume it takes to kill millions of people? I'd tend to think so. Quote
suds Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 6 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: Correct. Is that really the best you can do? I don't normally respond to silly stuff but for some reason you're really good at it. I guess that's worth something. Quote
CdnFox Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 2 hours ago, suds said: As I've said repeatedly, there are multiple issues. You have your opinions and I have mine. Let's leave it at that. Sure. I guess we'll see who's right and whether or not the discussions that happen center around security or something else and we can reevaluate after that Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
suds Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 4 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Sure. I guess we'll see who's right and whether or not the discussions that happen center around security or something else and we can reevaluate after that Sounds fair enough. I would also like to say that opinions can change as the information that we base our opinions on changes. That is of course if one has an open mind to begin with. 😉 1 Quote
betsy Posted February 3 Author Report Posted February 3 (edited) 6 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said: There is no real fentanyl crisis on our border. That’s a straight lie. To discuss that seriously is to humour a delusion. Fact: we’re not going to completely eliminate fentanyl from our country and therefore we can’t guarantee that a tiny percentage of that won’t leak across the border. You can whine about that all you want...................but....................the numbers are irrelevant. The point is that the US President want to tightly secure all US borders. Edited February 3 by betsy Quote
Chrissy1979 Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 1 hour ago, betsy said: You can whine about that all you want...................but....................the numbers are irrelevant. The point is that the US President want to tightly secure all US borders. So why is he so weak that he can't do that himself? Why does Canada have to do it for him? How do you feel about "Canadian" Trumpers from China (or whatever sh*thole you come from) being deported? 😂 Quote
betsy Posted February 3 Author Report Posted February 3 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said: So why is he so weak that he can't do that himself? Why does Canada have to do it for him? So.........now he's slapped the tariff. Who's crying? 😁 Who's crawling to Washington tomorrow to meet with him? As a Canadian.....I find that humiliating. 9 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said: How do you feel about "Canadian" Trumpers from China (or whatever sh*thole you come from) being deported? 😂 ? EH? Edited February 3 by betsy Quote
Chrissy1979 Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 1 minute ago, betsy said: So.....now he's slapped the tariff. Who's crying? 😁 ? EH? Real patriotic Canadians. Definitely not Chinese botheads. Quote
betsy Posted February 3 Author Report Posted February 3 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said: Real patriotic Canadians. Definitely not Chinese botheads. Senseless folks who call themselves so-called, "patriots," don't see the point. You do what's BEST for our nation! Where were you when our nation was being shredded by the Liberals? The Liberals had put us in this helpless predicament, by their insane bureaucracy and policies that stifled our growth and development! Allowing so many migrants into our nation......that it had created a crisis within the country! The way they mishandled tax-payers' money! That's shameful! That seems almost like a deliberate move......taking the page from Biden! Lol - in the old days, they'll be charged for treason! So, what do you suggest we'll do if he retaliates back with our counter tariff and raises the tariffs even more. What's so freaking hard to understand with what Danielle Smith is sayng. I hope you did have the good sense to hear what she had to say..........before exploding all over the thread? Edited February 3 by betsy Quote
Chrissy1979 Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 4 minutes ago, betsy said: Senseless folks who call themselves so-called, "patriots," don't see the point. You do what's BEST for our nation! Where were you when our nation was being shredded by the Liberals? The Liberals had put us in this helpless predicament, by their insane bureaucracy and policies that stifled out growth and development! Allowing so many migrants into our nation......that it had a created a crisis within the country! That's shameful! That seems almost like a deliberate move......taking the page from Biden! Lol - in the old days, they'll be charged for treason! So, what do you suggest we'll do if he retaliates back with our counter tariff and raises the tariffs even more. What's so freaking hard to understand with what Danielle Smith is sayng. I hope you did have the good sense to hear what she had to say.....before exploding all over the thread? Don't call Canada "our nation". Chinese bots don't have the right. You really think you can pass for Canadian with that crippled English? Quote
betsy Posted February 3 Author Report Posted February 3 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said: Real patriotic Canadians. Definitely not Chinese botheads. Don't call Canada "our nation". Chinese bots don't have the right. You really think you can pass for Canadian with that crippled English? Maybe, you can't understand bigger terms......thus, you think something's wrong with my English. 🤣 What can we do if your ENGLISH vocabulary is so limited? 😁 My thinking, isn't crippled.......unlike yours. I don't think you'll pass for a sane person. Well, I don't know who you're calling Chinese botheads. Lol - I suppose you can't refute what I just said. You liberals all say and do the same thing - if you're losing ground, you resort to personal attacks and name-calling. Hahahaha - you folks must be the bots! hahaha Another one bites the dust. have a nice day. Edited February 3 by betsy Quote
Chrissy1979 Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 9 minutes ago, betsy said: Maybe, you can't understand bigger terms......thus, you think something's wrong with my English. 🤣 What can we do if your ENGLISH vocabulary is so limited? 😁 My thinking, isn't crippled.......unlike yours. I don't think you'll pass for a sane person. Well, I don't know who you're calling Chinese botheads. Lol - I suppose you can't refute what I just said. You liberals all say and do the same thing - if you're losing ground, you resort to personal attacks and name-calling. Hahahaha - you folks must be the bots! hahaha Another one bites the dust. have a nice day. A real Canadian would stand up for Canada. A mandarin-speaking fake Canadian bot would write English like you and keep the fake loyalty to Trump illusion going because those are your orders from Xi. It's obvious you are not from here. You aren't like us. Quote
betsy Posted February 3 Author Report Posted February 3 (edited) You liberal and progressives shouldn't even dare mention the word, "patriotism"..... .....................when you all were so willing to sell out Canada....... ...................to ........................SOCIALIST agenda! Patriotism, is a term you don't understand. So, never mind the stupidity of posturing, and hypocritical show of outrage. Edited February 3 by betsy Quote
Michael Hardner Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 @Chrissy1979 You might have something here. That last post lacked articles, making me think that they're not composed properly or with a dictionary lookup. In any case, the logic is flawed. If people respond to a trade war from a foreign country by saying those who fight it are not patriotic. Doesn't make sense. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Chrissy1979 Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 4 minutes ago, betsy said: You liberal and progressives shouldn't even dare mention the word, "patriotism"..... .....................when you all were so willing to sell out Canada....... ...................to ........................SOCIALIST agenda! Patriotism, is a term you don't understand. So, never mind the stupidity of posturing, and hypocritical show of outrage. You aren't Canadian so what you say is irrelevant. Quote
betsy Posted February 3 Author Report Posted February 3 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: @Chrissy1979 You might have something here. That last post lacked articles, making me think that they're not composed properly or with a dictionary lookup. In any case, the logic is flawed. If people respond to a trade war from a foreign country by saying those who fight it are not patriotic. Doesn't make sense. I don't know what post you refer to. Just for the record........ I'm not saying those who fight it aren't patriotic. I'm saying.......tit-for-tat tariff is not the answer. I gave Danielle Smith's position on the matter to be practical. BIG DIFFERENCE. On the other hand, To say that those who don't agree with a tariff pissing contest, to be un-patriotic.........is what's ignorant and insensible. The above poster who came out swinging accusing me to be a Chinese bot, has clearly become un-hinged by this downturn with the USA. Lol - If she's unhinging now at the first round - I'd hate to imagine how she'll be if Trump increases the tariff even higher in this pissing contest! 🤣 We should exhaust all positive avenues before we jump into a tariff war we can't possibly win. We're not in any position to win. Unfortunately, the Liberal government had weakened us and stifled our growth. Edited February 3 by betsy Quote
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