betsy Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 Danielle Smith has the practical solution to this tariff threat. Instead of threatening Trump with a counter tariff on American goods, we should show Trump that we are serious with meeting the demand on border security. She's right in saying that we should appoint a border czar, who'll work with the US counterpart. Surely, you don't expect us to win a tit-for-tat? Especially when Trump already threatens to increase the tariff if Canada retaliates in any way. 2 Quote
PIK Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 (edited) Nothing we did was going to please Trump. This could backfire on Trump and Smith in long run. We need to be united, Canadians have never backed down from a fight before. But do we have that backbone anymore? Edited February 1 by PIK 4 Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Black Dog Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 12 minutes ago, betsy said: Danielle Smith has the practical solution to this tariff threat. Instead of threatening Trump with a counter tariff on American goods, we should show Trump that we are serious with meeting the demand on border security. She's right in saying that we should appoint a border czar, who'll work with the US counterpart. Surely, you don't expect us to win a tit-for-tat? Especially when Trump already threatens to increase the tariff if Canada retaliates in any way. GTFO out of this country traitor. 10 minutes ago, PIK said: Nothing we did was going to please Trump. This could backfire on Trump and Smith in long run. We need to be united, Canadians have never backed down from a fight before. But do we have that backbone anymore? Trump, like all bullies, only understands strength, we need to hit back and hard. 3 Quote
Barquentine Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 22 minutes ago, betsy said: we should show Trump that we are serious with meeting the demand on border security. You actually think Trump gives a shit about our border? He was gonna put these tariffs on no matter what! He's a bully and a short-term thinker making a money grab - doesn't give a damn even about American consumers. 2 Quote
betsy Posted February 1 Author Report Posted February 1 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Barquentine said: You actually think Trump gives a shit about our border? He was gonna put these tariffs on no matter what! He's a bully and a short-term thinker making a money grab - doesn't give a damn even about American consumers. You're speculating! Tell me - what is the downside of securing our border? Btw, there is a real trade talk coming in April. This 25% tariff is apparently separate from that! I'm thinking - if we have a border czar working with the US border czar - we might see the 25% tariff come down or even scrapped by the time April comes around. Edited February 1 by betsy Quote
betsy Posted February 1 Author Report Posted February 1 (edited) Supposing we retaliate with a counter tariff - are we able to withstand an even bigger tariff from the US? I mean, retaliation can be an effective tool........................ONLY IF YOU CAN FACE THE COUNTER, AND SUSTAIN IT. Just remember - it's the little people - you and I - who will face and experience the pain. Edited February 1 by betsy 1 Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 1 hour ago, betsy said: Danielle Smith has the practical solution to this tariff threat. Instead of threatening Trump with a counter tariff on American goods, we should show Trump that we are serious with meeting the demand on border security. She's right in saying that we should appoint a border czar, who'll work with the US counterpart. Surely, you don't expect us to win a tit-for-tat? Especially when Trump already threatens to increase the tariff if Canada retaliates in any way. We;re going into Trump's rectum. Raw dog. It will be like WW2. When the Americans were too scared to fight the Germans in the trenches, the Canadians come and finish the job. Quote
Barquentine Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 (edited) 25 minutes ago, betsy said: Tell me - what is the downside of securing our border? No downside. But the hosts of immigrants are walking up from Central America, not down from the Arctic. Actually our border is already pretty secure. The U.S. could do more to keep guns and drugs coming across from their side. Edited February 1 by Barquentine Quote
eyeball Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 49 minutes ago, betsy said: Surely, you don't expect us to win a tit-for-tat? At this point I half expect Trump to increase the flow of guns into Canada. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
suds Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 Tit-for-tat isn't the answer I agree. No, it's not the answer. Amazingly stupid people on this board who must really believe they're tough or something. 1 Quote
betsy Posted February 1 Author Report Posted February 1 4 minutes ago, Barquentine said: No downside. But the hosts of immigrants are walking up from Central America, not down from the Arctic. Actually our border is already pretty secure. The U.S. could do more to keep guns and drugs coming across from their side. From your point of view, our border is secure. But not according to Trump's. I still remember the family who walked from Canada to the US and froze to death on the way. Border security doesn't involve only walking illegals. Lax immigration vetting could also be a problem. We have several terrorists who managed to enter our country......right? Quote
betsy Posted February 1 Author Report Posted February 1 (edited) 4 minutes ago, suds said: Tit-for-tat isn't the answer I agree. No, it's not the answer. Amazingly stupid people on this board who must really believe they're tough or something. hahaha - they think we can go on a pissing contest! I wonder what they'll do if Trump counters our retaliation with an even bigger tariff? Raise our tariff too? We go on a pissing contest if we got a humongous bladder! 🤣 What's hurting is simply our ego and our pride.............for having to be told by a "bully" to smarten up and secure our border! 😁 Lol - we can't eat pride and ego! If many Canadians are already hurting now without the tariff.....just imagine how it'll be! Edited February 1 by betsy Quote
betsy Posted February 2 Author Report Posted February 2 (edited) 9 minutes ago, suds said: Tit-for-tat isn't the answer I agree. No, it's not the answer. Amazingly stupid people on this board who must really believe they're tough or something. It's kinda like poking a tiger with a stick....the more we retaliate, Trump will probably even make an example of Canada to the world. We'll truly become the punching bag! I still think there's personal animosity that Trump feels towards Trudeau. It's personal. When Trudeau got on camera two days ago and threatened retaliation, that's when Trump said nothing can change the outcome of his decision! And Trump threatened to raise the tariff even more if Canada retaliates in any way. The more they get on camera and start chest-beating, it'll only make Trump dig in. Edited February 2 by betsy Quote
CdnFox Posted February 2 Report Posted February 2 1 hour ago, betsy said: Danielle Smith has the practical solution to this tariff threat. Instead of threatening Trump with a counter tariff on American goods, we should show Trump that we are serious with meeting the demand on border security. She's right in saying that we should appoint a border czar, who'll work with the US counterpart. Surely, you don't expect us to win a tit-for-tat? Especially when Trump already threatens to increase the tariff if Canada retaliates in any way. The funny thing is they haven't actually made a specific demand That's what makes me think it's not really about border security. It's not like he said if you do this specific thing we can agree to stop, he's just said there's a problem at the border without outlining it and any real detail or what he'd like to see done to fix it and then said tariffs will continue until then Tit for Tat is absolutely the answer. Even if he had given a list of demands if you just came for it when he threatens you then it's only going to be a couple weeks before he threatens you again on something else. Make him bleed now, even if we come out of it worse we can hurt him bad enough that he will think twice before ever doing it again and so will any other American president. In about 15 months he has midterms. If he has hurt the American economy and if his popularity is slumping he could lose the house in the senate in which case he will be impeached. What we should also be doing is taking radio and TV ads out all over the united states pointing out that the pain they're feeling was an unprovoked attack I'm one of their longest standing friends and allies without Reason or negotiation. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
eyeball Posted February 2 Report Posted February 2 27 minutes ago, betsy said: From your point of view, our border is secure. But not according to Trump's. What's your view on the job Trump is doing to keep guns from entering Canada? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Barquentine Posted February 2 Report Posted February 2 39 minutes ago, betsy said: I still remember the family who walked from Canada to the US and froze to death on the way. Yes, that was heart-breaking. But no matter how much we do on the border, a few will still slip through. My point is: The border is Trump's excuse for imposing tariffs, not his reason for doing so. 1 Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted February 2 Report Posted February 2 2 hours ago, betsy said: Danielle Smith has the practical solution to this tariff threat. Instead of threatening Trump with a counter tariff on American goods, we should show Trump that we are serious with meeting the demand on border security. She's right in saying that we should appoint a border czar, who'll work with the US counterpart. Surely, you don't expect us to win a tit-for-tat? Especially when Trump already threatens to increase the tariff if Canada retaliates in any way. So appeasement is your answer? 1 Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted February 2 Report Posted February 2 The fentanyl problem has its origin in China, America’s new competitor across every domain, and yet Trump only puts a 10% tariff on them. Quote
herbie Posted February 2 Report Posted February 2 1 hour ago, DUI_Offender said: We;re going into Trump's rectum. Raw dog. Click! The lights go out. The refineries run dry. See how fast they haul his fat arse out of the White House and string him up for real. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted February 2 Report Posted February 2 3 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said: The fentanyl problem has its origin in China, America’s new competitor across every domain, and yet Trump only puts a 10% tariff on them. The fentanyl crossing the border is crossing for the most part at regular checkpoints being smuggled in, at least the fentanyl coming from Canada. That would be their customs people that need to crack down not ours. The fentanyl is a complete smoke screen My growing suspicion is that what he wants is to drive manufacturing out of Canada. His end game is probably a situation where he will be allowed to buy raw materials from Canada but nothing is ever made in Canada, and same with mexico. he wants to return all manufacturing back to the states, and he's going to try to make it too expensive to buy from other countries so the manufacturing comes home. But i don't think its' going to work the way he thinks it will. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
West Posted February 2 Report Posted February 2 Trudeau's lack of leadership is really evident. The woke aren't serious about ended the drug dens and instead resort to the usual name calling for expressing concerns about public safety the woke approach uses Quote
West Posted February 2 Report Posted February 2 30 minutes ago, CdnFox said: The fentanyl crossing the border is crossing for the most part at regular checkpoints being smuggled in, at least the fentanyl coming from Canada. That would be their customs people that need to crack down not ours. The fentanyl is a complete smoke screen My growing suspicion is that what he wants is to drive manufacturing out of Canada. His end game is probably a situation where he will be allowed to buy raw materials from Canada but nothing is ever made in Canada, and same with mexico. he wants to return all manufacturing back to the states, and he's going to try to make it too expensive to buy from other countries so the manufacturing comes home. But i don't think its' going to work the way he thinks it will. I think it's retaliation because five eyes assisted in launching the phony Russia hoax the last go around and Trudeau is the poster child for wokeism/DEI/stakeholder capitalism Quote
West Posted February 2 Report Posted February 2 5 hours ago, betsy said: It's kinda like poking a tiger with a stick....the more we retaliate, Trump will probably even make an example of Canada to the world. We'll truly become the punching bag! I still think there's personal animosity that Trump feels towards Trudeau. It's personal. When Trudeau got on camera two days ago and threatened retaliation, that's when Trump said nothing can change the outcome of his decision! And Trump threatened to raise the tariff even more if Canada retaliates in any way. The more they get on camera and start chest-beating, it'll only make Trump dig in. Trucker convoy all over again.. instead of deescalation Trudeau allows his ego to get in the way 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted February 2 Report Posted February 2 2 hours ago, West said: I think it's retaliation because five eyes assisted in launching the phony Russia hoax the last go around and Trudeau is the poster child for wokeism/DEI/stakeholder capitalism That would explain why trump doesn't like him. But I think this is deeper than that. I mean he literally said right after the election that Kamala should have won and that people voting for trump were basically racists. Do we really need to look further? And I doubt the pictures of his wife ogling and drooling over Trudeau when he was down there that flooded the net helped at all. 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
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