Mark Carney = Michael Ignatieff

[August1991]

Another international big ego who will never be Canada's PM.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[August1991]

The federal Left in Canada are seriously confused.

Singh? That's identity politics. (Everyone knows how he won... )

Trudeau Jnr? Everyone knows now why he won.

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Canada's Left needs someone. Mulcair? You speak French. You're Catholic. And you seem like a guy who wants to get along with others.

[Dougie93]

8 hours ago, August1991 said:

Another international big ego who will never be Canada's PM.

technically, he will be Prime Minister the moment he becomes leader of the Liberal party

and who says Jagmeet Sing won't prop him up ?

with Trudeau gone, the impetus to bring down the government immediately is dissipating rapidly

the Liberals have nothing to lose, so they might as well play for time

there is nothing actually in the Constitution which even demands an election after four years

according to Section 50 of the Constitution, the limit is actually five years

which supersedes the Canada Elections Act amendment of 2007

the Liberals could simply argue that Stephen Harper's law is unconstitutional

and that there is a national emergency requiring them to stave off an election for now

backed up by a Liberal Governor General & Supreme Court

so the Liberals could have until October of 2026 before having to call an election

then they just wrap themselves in the Liberal Party of Canada flag, singing the Liberal Party of Canada song

inducing the Normies to rally around them in the face of Donald Trump and his "Quilsing" proxy Pierre Poillievre

Vive le Canadienne, Je me souviens

[Aristides]

Carney certainly has a more Canadian history than Ignatieff. Even when he was with Goldman Sachs he spent time in their offices in Europe, Asia and Toronto. 

[Dougie93]

8 hours ago, August1991 said:

The federal Left in Canada are seriously confused.

Singh? That's identity politics. (Everyone knows how he won... )

Trudeau Jnr? Everyone knows now why he won.

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Canada's Left needs someone. Mulcair? You speak French. You're Catholic. And you seem like a guy who wants to get along with others.

the onset of Donald Trump has upset the apple cart

all that matters to the Canadian left ( Laurentian Elites ) now,  is keeping the American Emperor at bay

all Carney has to do is be the Anti-Trump Laurentian Elite bulwark

and the majority of Normies east of Windsor will drink that Kool-Aid

again, Section 50 of the Constitution supersedes the Canada Elections Act

so the Laurentian Elites have up to 20 months in power to turn the tide back in their favour

Trump Derangement Syndrome will do the rest ; God save the King !

[ironstone]

Carney has now been endorsed by Steven Guilbeault who had previously said he would quit if the carbon tax was dialed back in even the slightest way.

So he clearly got some kind of assurance from Carney that the Liberal carbon tax is here to stay. The name may change and the scope it covers may even be expanded, but it is not going away under Mark Carney.

 

[Dougie93]

28 minutes ago, ironstone said:

Carney has now been endorsed by Steven Guilbeault who had previously said he would quit if the carbon tax was dialed back in even the slightest way.

So he clearly got some kind of assurance from Carney that the Liberal carbon tax is here to stay. The name may change and the scope it covers may even be expanded, but it is not going away under Mark Carney.

 

even the Conservatives are only promising to get rid of the Consumer Carbon Tax

they haven't actually promised to end carbon pricing in of itself

so it's no biggie for the Liberals to match the CPC promise of making minor tweaks around the margins

the Liberals have dropped Justin Trudeau and the Consumer Carbon Tax

presto change-o, suddenly Pierre Poillevre doesn't have anything left to run on

the ballot question is no longer what the CPC was running on

now the ballot question is : who is the most Anti-Trump ?

that ain't Poillievre no matter how hard he tries to shift on the fly

furthermore, if/when Trump imposes crushing tariffs upon the economy

suddenly Canadians are not going to be clambering for less government

rather Canadians will be clambering for massive government intervention to prop them up

again ;  advantage Liberals

Mark Carney Laurentian Elite saviour is an entirely viable strategy

the Liberals simply need to buy time, stave the election off for as long as possible

if by October Donald Trump has his boot heel upon Canada's neck

the Liberals are right back in the game

the Liberals after all, are the Montreal Canadiens

while the Conservatives are the Toronto Maple Leafs

and we all know how the Leafs choke in these situations

Edited January 25 by Dougie93

[herbie]

Don't be so damn sure. He's not an academic like Ignatief, he's a man of economic experience. Bank of Canada, Goldman Sachs, Bank of England.
And the economy is EVERYTHING about the next election. He hasn't even won the leadership and is putting a dent in that clueless Tory lack of policy. They're still chanting Axe Duh Tax.

[Army Guy]

4 minutes ago, herbie said:

Don't be so damn sure. He's not an academic like Ignatief, he's a man of economic experience. Bank of Canada, Goldman Sachs, Bank of England.
And the economy is EVERYTHING about the next election. He hasn't even won the leadership and is putting a dent in that clueless Tory lack of policy. They're still chanting Axe Duh Tax.

you should take a look at his record in each of those jobs before cheerleading, it's not all rainbows and unicorns, just ask the brits, plenty of videos on carney made in the UK he was not very popular....economy is second place dealing with trump is primary.... 

Well as we have already seen axe the tax is pretty popular with the liberals today....and sense they don't have any idea what they are doing except copy Conservative election points....and it is that tory policy and actions that have them in the lead in the polls ....He has been releasing his policies already you have just not been listening...but good liberal talking point as always.... 

[herbie]

Grow up that's what Liberals do. Take things that win public support not do everything unpopular. Not waste their entire mandate passing stupid crime bills that are all instantly struck down. Or running on issues that aren't anymore.

[August1991]

I would like to see someone like Thomas Mulcair oppose Pierre Pieliuevre - in both languages,

[Barquentine]

Interested in seeing Carney in a debate situation. Also wondering if Wab Kinew might move to federal politics.

[August1991]

On 1/29/2025 at 12:08 PM, Barquentine said:

Interested in seeing Carney in a debate situation. Also wondering if Wab Kinew might move to federal politics.

Who TF are you?

To me, Mark Carney is like Ignatieff. (Note: Ignatieff spoke far better French.)

[Barquentine]

4 hours ago, August1991 said:

Who TF are you?

Thanks for the polite welcome.

[August1991]

Welcome!

[betsy]

Managing the big bank is not the same as running and managing, and making policies for a nation!

 

As an example: 

  Carney couldn't have implemented his radical climate-change policies as the chief of the Bank of England.

But, Carney is the brains behind Trudeau's epic fail  climate-change policies!

 

Being a banker doesn't qualify him to become PM.  

Edited February 3 by betsy

[SpankyMcFarland]

In fairness to him, Carney knows a lot more about money than Ignatieff did with serious jobs at the heart of two economies and his chances of being more than a Campbellesque footnote in Canadian political history grow by the day, thanks to Mr. Trump. I can’t argue he lacks real world experience outside the strange world of politics. My concerns with his candidacy are focused more on age and lack of parliamentary experience. 

Edited February 3 by SpankyMcFarland

[SpankyMcFarland]

2 hours ago, betsy said:

Managing the big bank is not the same as running and managing, and making policies for a nation!

 

As an example: 

  Carney couldn't have implemented his radical climate-change policies as the chief of the Bank of England.

But, Carney is the brains behind Trudeau's epic fail  climate-change policies!

 

Being a banker doesn't qualify him to become PM.  

Nobody can deny he’s been very successful in his career and banking at that level isn’t so far from politics. 

[CdnFox]

On 1/25/2025 at 7:03 AM, Aristides said:

Carney certainly has a more Canadian history than Ignatieff. Even when he was with Goldman Sachs he spent time in their offices in Europe, Asia and Toronto. 

Not by much. I mean Ignatieff was frequently in Canada on lecture tours when he lived in America. I didn't mean he was a Canadian.

Just like carney he had multiple citizenships etc etc. 

It'll end the same way.  And just like Iggy he won't stick around after, he'll be gone on to something else despite claiming he's in it for the long run (Carney hasn't said that yet but he will). 

The liberals believe that they never have to change. That they only need a charismatic leader who can impress people to sweep them into power and they can continue their bad behavior and grift. They have believed this for decades now.

And they are wrong. While they probably won't get wiped out like the PC did back in the day a massive defeat for them.

For Kearney it's a free roll of the dice. Maybe some miracle happens and he gets to be prime minister of Canada which will allow him to pocket vastly more money that he does now and wheels incredible power, or it doesn't work and he's only wasted a few months of his time and blown what is a paltry sum to him and his friends.

And there is always a chance that he will roll double sixes and something will happen and he will get to be prime minister, but the vastly more likely and is that the liberals are reduced to about 40 to 50 seats

[betsy]

We've already seen how Carney will run this nation.   After all, he's the brain behind Trudeau's economic policy,  lunatic climate-change ideas.

Trudeau was just the..................mouth.

 

Carney = California's Gavin Newsom

Edited February 5 by betsy

[CdnFox]

17 hours ago, betsy said:

We've already seen how Carney will run this nation.   After all, he's the brain behind Trudeau's economic policy,  lunatic climate-change ideas.

Trudeau was just the..................mouth.

 

Carney = California's Gavin Newsom

Carney would be disastrous for the nation, although I will say he would be better than Trudeau. So win lose or draw we're getting an upgrade  

But that guy is not in it for Canada and he is not terribly smart at all and his track record in England does not speak well of him. Fortunately I don't think he's going to win, and the moment he loses he's going to be on the first plane out of town. There is no way he has the dedication to hang around and rebuild the party for 4 years even if the party would let him

Edited February 6 by CdnFox

[Chrissy1979]

Stephen Harper chose Carney as the best man to lead us through troubled times. The Chinese bots who can’t even speak English want to destroy Canada. It’s an easy choice.

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Chrissy1979 said:

Stephen Harper chose Carney as the best man to lead us through troubled times.

Stephen harper let us through troubled times. He gave mark carney instructions based on his plan, carney did it and we were prosperous. That doesn't make Carnie a leader

In addition the Prime Minister does not pick the head of the Bank of Canada. The governor is picked by the board of directors. The bank of canada works very closely hand in glove with the govt but is technically an independent organization. 

Wrong twice in one sentance, very efficient of you   

[Chrissy1979]

46 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Stephen harper let us through troubled times. He gave mark carney instructions based on his plan, carney did it and we were prosperous. That doesn't make Carnie a leader

In addition the Prime Minister does not pick the head of the Bank of Canada. The governor is picked by the board of directors. The bank of canada works very closely hand in glove with the govt but is technically an independent organization. 

Wrong twice in one sentance, very efficient of you   

You said the PM gives the Governor of the Bank of Canada instructions and then you said it's independent. You contradicted yourself in two paragraphs. Even more efficient 

[CdnFox]

8 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

You said the PM gives the Governor of the Bank of Canada instructions and then you said it's independent. You contradicted yourself in two paragraphs. Even more efficient 

No, both statements are true. The bank is independent and the governor does not have to follow the instructions given to him by the Prime Minister. But as I also said they work hand in glove and meet on a weekly basis more or less especially during times of crisis. The Prime Minister says this is what I need you to do and the bank follows it unless they have a very good reason not to. But they don't take off on their own economic policy or come up with economic policy on their own. They may exercise some control over the precise execution but generally speaking especially in times of financial difficulty they follow the lead of the government. And that's true even today.

Sorry, I forgot that you need things spelled out with crayon in order to understand it