Politics1990 Posted January 19 Report Posted January 19 lol freeland with housefather and the guy with bbushy hair sat front room at freelands speech . t hey were pro and vocal in public about getting trudeau to leave but support his 2nd in charge lmao? real bright fellas. hopfully carney boots them both once he wins Quote
Army Guy Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 6 hours ago, Politics1990 said: lol freeland with housefather and the guy with bbushy hair sat front room at freelands speech . t hey were pro and vocal in public about getting trudeau to leave but support his 2nd in charge lmao? real bright fellas. hopfully carney boots them both once he wins wins what exactly the leadership to a failed party that will have to be rebuilt from the ground up...and he wins all that for a mere 350,000 k...what a deal.... Courts just decided that Justin proroguing parliament is invalid...we will have to see what happens on monday, which could see a non confidence vote, and an election way sooner than we thought....Carneys rope just got a whole lot shorter.... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
SpankyMcFarland Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 Freeland sees NAFTA as the least worst policy to run on. Most people see her record as strong there. How this plays out in the next federal election is entirely dependent on Trump. If he goes completely mad with the tariffs and Danielle Smith succeeds in dividing west from east then we could have a genuine contest on our hands. Quote
CdnFox Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 (edited) 4 hours ago, Army Guy said: wins what exactly the leadership to a failed party that will have to be rebuilt from the ground up...and he wins all that for a mere 350,000 k...what a deal.... I don't think he'll stay around if he doesn't win. I think basically the liberals have told him that if he runs and loses he's free to leave and they will cover some if not all of his expenses and if he wins great. I don't think he has the slightest intention of sticking around to rebuild the party at all. Reminds me of that ignatief slogan conservatives had: Just visiting. Quote Courts just decided that Justin proroguing parliament is invalid...we will have to see what happens on monday, which could see a non confidence vote, and an election way sooner than we thought....Carneys rope just got a whole lot shorter.... I think jaggey probably just peed a little Edited January 20 by CdnFox 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 2 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Freeland sees NAFTA as the least worst policy to run on. Most people see her record as strong there. How this plays out in the next federal election is entirely dependent on Trump. If he goes completely mad with the tariffs and Danielle Smith succeeds in dividing west from east then we could have a genuine contest on our hands. It wasn't though. She lost ground. They tried to pass it off at the time as oh well what more could anyone do against trump but if that record gets dug up and plastered all over the media the truth of it won't look good for her. And trump doesn't like her and has made that clear. Quote
betsy Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 (edited) 7 hours ago, Army Guy said: wins what exactly the leadership to a failed party that will have to be rebuilt from the ground up...and he wins all that for a mere 350,000 k...what a deal.... Courts just decided that Justin proroguing parliament is invalid...we will have to see what happens on monday, which could see a non confidence vote, and an election way sooner than we thought....Carneys rope just got a whole lot shorter.... The Gov Gen should be sacked and replaced. MacKinnon and Lavranos asked the court to expedite its hearing of their application for judicial review, citing urgency due to U.S. president-elect Donald Trump's threat to impose steep tariffs on goods from Canada. They argued Trudeau's decision effectively denies Parliament, without reasonable justification, the ability to carry out its constitutional functions as a legislature. In particular, the application said, prorogation prevents Parliament from dealing "quickly and decisively" with especially pressing issues, including the effects of Trump's threatened tariffs. They suggest the true intention of prorogation was to stymie efforts of opposition parties to bring a motion of non-confidence in the Liberal government. "An eleven-week shutdown of our federal government's legislative branch by the executive branch, without lawful authority, represents a grave threat to democracy, our Parliamentary system and the rule of law itself," MacKinnon and Lavranos argued in seeking an expedited hearing. https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/article/judge-agrees-to-expedite-legal-challenge-of-trudeaus-move-to-prorogue-parliament/ Edited January 20 by betsy Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 11 hours ago, CdnFox said: It wasn't though. She lost ground. They tried to pass it off at the time as oh well what more could anyone do against trump but if that record gets dug up and plastered all over the media the truth of it won't look good for her. And trump doesn't like her and has made that clear. It’s their best line of defence. If he pursues this tariffs madness and starts a protracted economic war with Canada then the election becomes a different matter entirely. Quote
ironstone Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 On 1/16/2025 at 10:20 PM, DUI_Offender said: PP is terrified of debating Carney. They have clashed before but not an in person confrontation. Here's is a glimpse of what you can expect should they have the big debate down the line. It's perfectly clear who came out on top here. Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
SpankyMcFarland Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 17 hours ago, Army Guy said: wins what exactly the leadership to a failed party that will have to be rebuilt from the ground up...and he wins all that for a mere 350,000 k...what a deal.... Courts just decided that Justin proroguing parliament is invalid...we will have to see what happens on monday, which could see a non confidence vote, and an election way sooner than we thought....Carneys rope just got a whole lot shorter.... AFAIK the prorogation case will take a good while yet to sort out, presuming all remedies are used? Quote Not only has the Federal Court decided to hear this challenge, it has expedited the case and set a date for the hearing of February 14th. Even if the court were to issue a decision that same day, which would be exceptional, the process of appeal—to the Federal Court of Appeal and then to the Supreme Court of Canada—would have to be even more abruptly truncated to provide a meaningful remedy before March 24th. https://thehub.ca/2025/01/20/howard-anglin-the-courts-must-stay-out-of-the-politics-of-prorogation/ If a decision did come sooner, the Liberals would have two options: 1. A series of simple caucus votes on the leadership which could be done almost instantly. 2. Leave Trudeau in place. There’s an argument that he should stay to face the music and leave the next leader with a clear run to rebuild the party without a massive defeat on their record but I suspect most MPs would prefer a fighting chance to hang onto their seats. 3 Quote
CdnFox Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 4 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said: It’s their best line of defence. If he pursues this tariffs madness and starts a protracted economic war with Canada then the election becomes a different matter entirely. I agree that it's just about their best line of defense. But it's not a very good one and it's not much of a game changer. They have already been a number of polls asking people who they think is the best to stand up to trump and poilievre comes ahead pretty much all the time by a fair margin over Justin, and she won't be doing any better than Justin because she's literally the one who negotiated for Justin. But I get that it's just about the only thing she could run on with any real chance of gaining traction Quote
August1991 Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 On 1/12/2025 at 9:45 PM, DUI_Offender said: I was checking out the credentials of Mark Carney, an Edmontonian. Very impressive. According to Wikipedia, he was born in NWT. I have never met him. I know people who I trust that know him. He is arrogant. I wondered how he became Governor of the Bank of England. He married up. ====== The federal Liberal Party has a choice between Carney and Freedland. Quote
CdnFox Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 7 hours ago, August1991 said: He is arrogant. An international investment banker for the ultra rich, a liberal, and an environmental advocate? Arrogant???? Surely not! It's like george soros. Justin trudeau and greta thunberg had a love child and it wants to be prime minister. Quote
Moonbox Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 On 1/20/2025 at 1:53 PM, SpankyMcFarland said: 2. Leave Trudeau in place. There’s an argument that he should stay to face the music and leave the next leader with a clear run to rebuild the party without a massive defeat on their record but I suspect most MPs would prefer a fighting chance to hang onto their seats. None of those MPs deserve to keep their seats. I highly respect Mark Carney and under normal circumstances I'd probably consider voting for him, but not while the chucklef*cks that enabled Trudeau and clucked and nodded at every dumb thing he said/did for 10 years are still pretending they have something of value to offer the country. I think it was a really poor decision for him to run for the Leadership. The only reason I can think of is that he wants to be there for the 2029 election. 1 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
CdnFox Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 1 hour ago, Moonbox said: None of those MPs deserve to keep their seats. I highly respect Mark Carney and under normal circumstances I'd probably consider voting for him, but not while the chucklef*cks that enabled Trudeau and clucked and nodded at every dumb thing he said/did for 10 years are still pretending they have something of value to offer the country. I think it was a really poor decision for him to run for the Leadership. The only reason I can think of is that he wants to be there for the 2029 election. He won't be there if he loses. Not only will they throw him out but he would leave of his own accord before they got the chance. This is a hail mary for him. It raises his profile internationally as it is, and if he actually DOES somehow manage to pull a win then he will be able to translate that into 10's if not 100's of millions of dollars with his consultancy after his term. And just like justin reward many friends in the meantime. Right now carney's job is basically to introduce rich people to other rich people who have investment opportunities and facilitate those investments. Having the contacts he'd get as PM would add to those contacts immeasurably. This was the issue with Mike Ignatieff as well. Whcih is why the "Just visiting" campaign worked so well with him. For him the contacts would serve a different purpose but same idea. Carney will claim he's here for the long term, he will lose, and he will be gone. 350 grand is nothing to him, and i'm sure he thinks of it more like a lotto ticket. Quote
August1991 Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 The caucus and cabinet are confused and desperate. They will likely choose Carney. Quote
Army Guy Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 16 hours ago, August1991 said: The caucus and cabinet are confused and desperate. They will likely choose Carney. It doesn't really matter whom they chose, unless some miracle happens the liberals are not going to be in the race at all...how bad their loss will be is only a matter of time....And if Carney was smart he would not be running this time, and have his name attached to such a huge loss...he would be way smarter to wait a couple of months and try and build his party in his image.... Liberals are going to have the same problems the conservatives did while looking for the right leader to win an election, hopefully this will take at least a decade to do... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
August1991 Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 On 1/23/2025 at 4:08 PM, Army Guy said: It doesn't really matter whom they chose... Agreed. But never under-estimate federal Liberal self-confidence. Quote
CdnFox Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 On 1/23/2025 at 1:08 PM, Army Guy said: It doesn't really matter whom they chose, unless some miracle happens the liberals are not going to be in the race at all...how bad their loss will be is only a matter of time....And if Carney was smart he would not be running this time, and have his name attached to such a huge loss...he would be way smarter to wait a couple of months and try and build his party in his image.... Liberals are going to have the same problems the conservatives did while looking for the right leader to win an election, hopefully this will take at least a decade to do... They're hoping to save the furniture and set up for the next one if they don't get lucky. I mean there's always the chance of a hail mary, PP slips down the stairs during the campaign and dies or something, But failing that they're hoping for 2 things out of a new leader: 1- retain as many seats as possible. it's hard to win back seats and talk people into running in CPC controlled ridings even if they were liberal in the past, so the more seats they can retain the better off they'll be next time. At all costs they want to be the official opposition. 2 - They want desperately to put some distance between justin and the leader to follow after this election . They will be hoping that this leader already sets a different tune and feel to the party so that people begin to forget how horrible things were under justin. once thats done it's easier for the leader who follows to differentiate them even further and in future elections say 'Justin who? oh my god are you STILL thinking about THAT guy?" I have my doubts that carney will be able to save the furniture much. they will be looking to win about 100 seats. That will be a sore kick in the teeth for them but it will be a fairly modest loss with lots of room to build back and should give them the official opposition. I think they'll probably be doing well to get about 40 seats. which would put them in 3rd place. They might not even do that well. Quote
August1991 Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 On 1/20/2025 at 12:25 PM, ironstone said: They have clashed before but not an in person confrontation. Here's is a glimpse of what you can expect should they have the big debate down the line. It's perfectly clear who came out on top here. Poilievre's voice is too nasal. Irritating To become a PM, he needs a vocal coach. Quote
Army Guy Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 13 hours ago, August1991 said: Agreed. But never under-estimate federal Liberal self-confidence. we will see how much confidence they have after the election....you call it confidence i call it arrogance...Any ways their time is done , it is time for the conservatives to take the reins, and hopefully they will fix a few things along the way... 7 hours ago, August1991 said: Poilievre's voice is too nasal. Irritating To become a PM, he needs a vocal coach. Sure , Canadians had to put up with the UUUMMMS and AAAHHHS of justin for years, you'll get over his voice. Oh and PS he is going to be the next PM...like it or not... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 8 hours ago, CdnFox said: I think they'll probably be doing well to get about 40 seats. which would put them in 3rd place. They might not even do that well. The Canadian left are retards, and will place their votes with the liberals despite what they have done to this country already...They are blind to everything that has gone wrong with the nation under the liberal rule.... They are terrified of what PP is going to do....They think PP eats small babies for breakfast, think he is going to take away all their social programs, cut pensions, and raise the retirement age, enslave them , then sell them to the inuit...they are more concerned about what THEY are going to lose, and have not even thought about all the costs these simple programs cost the nation.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Queenmandy85 Posted January 26 Report Posted January 26 Mr. Poilievre just sent Mr. Carney a letter ordering him to ban current members of cabinet from being re-appointed. This reveals Mr. Poilievre is not a conservative. How can he, as a former cabinet member himself, not have a clue of who appoints the ministry. The kid is ignorant of how the system works and to whom he is ultimately responsible to under the constitution. The people appointed to the next ministry is none of his business. He is the antithesis of a "conservative." Quote A Conservative stands for God, King and Country
Dougie93 Posted January 26 Report Posted January 26 11 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said: He is the antithesis of a "conservative." the Liberal Laurentian Elites are ignominious usurpers, there's nothing binding any MP to conserve their Woke Progressive radical leftist lunacy bring up the yardarm for the CBC traitors to the Crown Quote
Queenmandy85 Posted January 26 Report Posted January 26 (edited) Well, Doug, I do love Barrett's Privateers. Damn them all. "CBC traitors to the Crown." I think that shoud read CPC traitors to the Crown after hearing about Pierre's blasphemous arrogant letter to Mr. Carney. It confirms that Mr. Poilievre is an acolyte of Fred Rose and WAC Bennett. Communists. Hearts of Oak, M'Lad. Edited January 26 by Queenmandy85 Quote A Conservative stands for God, King and Country
taxme Posted January 26 Report Posted January 26 On 1/12/2025 at 6:45 PM, DUI_Offender said: I was checking out the credentials of Mark Carney, an Edmontonian. Very impressive. He is one of the best economists in the World, serving the Bank of Canada, and the Bank of England. He also was a backup goalie for Harvard, and received his Masters degree in Economics from Oxford University. Compared to Pierre Poilievre, who's greatest accomplishment in life, has been "Paperboy of the Year" for the Calgary Sun, it should be an easy decision for most Canadians. Left wing Carney is just another arse hole that is pro-Quebec and another WEF globalist just like comrade Trudy was. Carney will still follow the rules of the left wing liberal party and try and destroy Canada for the WEF globalists. So, in other words, one must have several credentials to become the PM of Canada, eh? I believe that Poilievre will destroy Carney in the next election. Canadians has had enough of Marxism liberalism and socialism. Canadians needs it's freedom back. FO Carney., Works for me. 🤣 Quote
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