gatomontes99 Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 (edited) A terrorist ran over 15(?) people in New Orleans and planted IEDs near the scene ahead of time, and terrorist rented a CyberTruck and detonated a bomb outside the Trump tower and the FBI caught a guy planning to shoot up the AIPA office in Florida. So how will the press make this Trump's fault? Edited January 2 by gatomontes99 1 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
Fluffypants Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 (edited) I know If Trump wasn't elected by your MAGAT losers none of this stuff would of happened just his existence creates violence. Or It was a Cybertruck so Elon having access to them and know how they work used a remote control to drive it to Trumps Hotel and blew it up so that people think we are under attack and Trump can immediately take office and put us under martial law and destroy democracy and be a dictator Edited January 2 by Fluffypants 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 (edited) 1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said: A terrorist ran over 15(?) people in New Orleans and planted IEDs near the scene ahead of time, and terrorist rented a CyberTruck and detonated a bomb outside the Trump tower and the FBI caught a guy planning to shoot up the AIPA office in Florida. So how will the press make this Trump's fault? Even though he wasn't elected at the time, trump has never promised to support any hypothetical bills which would limit people's access to cyber trucks and therefore he must be made to account for these acts. Edited January 2 by CdnFox Quote
WestCanMan Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 "BAN GUNS! THE KILLER WASN'T A MUSLIM! THIS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM!" - Trudeau, Hillary, Pelosi, AOC, Omar, the Ayatollah, @robosmith, @Hodad, @Michael Hardner, @Aristides & Co. 3 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
WestCanMan Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 The little b1tch-arse weasels are hiding from this thread. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
Hodad Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 2 hours ago, WestCanMan said: "BAN GUNS! THE KILLER WASN'T A MUSLIM! THIS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM!" - Trudeau, Hillary, Pelosi, AOC, Omar, the Ayatollah, @robosmith, @Hodad, @Michael Hardner, @Aristides & Co. Eh, if you're dumb enough to blame the Ukraine war and the massacre in Israel on Joe Biden (and let's face it, you are) them clearly this is an inevitable attack "provoked and emboldened" by the impending a Trump inauguration and his publicly disclosed policy positions. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: The little b1tch-arse weasels are hiding from this thread. I've heard that they're going to go with a D&D system. Basically when anything goes wrong they'll roll a D20 and it'll be like "this was trump's fault because... (roll roll roll).. Russian interference!!! (Biden says he doesn't care how big the room is, he casts fireball!) 1 Quote
Matthew Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 Right Wing Loser Thought Process: Oh, deadly disaster has happened? Excellent. How can I use it to politically benefit my meaningless team? Quote
WestCanMan Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 7 minutes ago, Matthew said: Right Wing Loser Thought Process: Oh, deadly disaster has happened? Excellent. How can I use it to politically benefit my meaningless team? OMG are you ever a slow learner. Are you just catching on now? The Dems motto has been "Never let a good tragedy go to waste" for decades, bub. Here's how this works: when a tragedy occurs, and it can be used for your own political advantage, show the victim's face and tell their heartwarming backstory, even if you have to make it up (like a Gentle Giant story). Draw a very clear picture to associate the thing/people you're against with the tragedy at the very outset while the emotions are at their peak. Blast that image home 1,000 times. Eg, the MSM spent months saying "M Brown good, pigs bad, pigs is racist" even when they knew that what they were saying was completely untrue. M Brown committed a violent robbery just moments before he was killed, and more than half of the Ferguson PD was black. If the tragedy is more likely to help your political opponents, leave the victims faceless and nameless, and most importantly: question the motives of the attackers for as long as you can, in order to disassociate their cause from the tragedy until the emotions of the event wear off. Eg, a story like "We don't know if the attacker was muslim, or whether or not it was a terrorist attack. The attacker was known to authorities", followed weeks later by "yeah it was an islamic terrorist attack, so how about them Bears?" Honestly, to a rube like you, none of that seems important, but the italicized part is actually the key component of the opinion-forming process because strong emotions form lasting memories/impressions, period, and nothing else does that. No one remembers their 11th tuna sandwich, but everyone remembers seeing their first murder. That's why associating a group to an event at the outset, when emotions are highest, solidifies the message that you want to drive home. That's why the Dems/Libs and their media flunkies always say "islam had nothing to do with it" every time someone invokes the name of allah while they're killing a group of innocent people. They'll even say things like "Sure, his parents and siblings are muslims, but he's not. He just shouted out to allah for no apparent reason. Now let's look at the real menace here: gun laws." Then they'll go on to ignore every aspect of the crime that doesn't fit their narrative. Eg, when the Danforth shooter was on his rampage in Toronto, he even told an Indo-Canadian on the street "You have nothing to worry about, brother, I'm only killing white people", and that fellow's interview was only shown on TV once... never again. The racial component was completely stripped from the narrative. It's why the liberal MSM even talked about gun laws when the van attacks happened in NY and Toronto. There were dead bodies still on the ground and they just couldn't help themselves, they just had to say "guns" and keep islam out of the storyline for as long as possible. Let's face it: when there's a terrorist attack you never think to yourself: "It was for Buddha." Or "it was done in the name of Christ or God." Or "it was probably a Hindu who's mad about the millions of Hindus slaughtered or forced out of Pakistan in 1947." Right? Not even you're stupid enough to think that. You know that it's someone who's mad about the 400 muslims killed in 1948. It always is. It happens all the time. But we're supposed to pretend that muslims aren't any more inclined to support terrorism than anyone else. Here's a thing, dummy: no one takes statistics more seriously than economists. Their university courses have the most intense statistics courses of any field of study. And a central belief of economists is that "for every person who takes the time to write your company and make a complaint about something, there are 25 other people who are also mad about that one thing but they didn't take the time to write a letter. Only about 4% of people will do that sort of thing." Does that sound about right? Now apply that line of thought to terrorist attacks. If one person is willing to strap explosives to their body and kill as many kids as they can at an Arianna Grande concert, is it likely that there are a bunch of other people in his group who also feel really strongly about killing random innocents, or is he just that far of an outlier? Fine, choose the latter, but then ask yourself why was it also the Pulse club? And van attacks in Toronto and NYC? The Boston bombing? The Danforth shooter? Fort Hood? The California couple? Why are Christmas markets always attacked by that group? Etc, etc, etc. Why don't Hindus do that? Why don't Buddhists do that? Why don't Christians do it? You never hear of people saying "This is for Jesus" and killing as many people as they can, because people don't commit mass-murders for Jesus. They do it for allah, all the time. When you say "Right-wing loser thought process", what you really mean is "Why are they always right? When are we gonna be right about something for once?" The answer is, you guys are o-fer-100 for a reason, so take note of the pattern there, and stop relying on the gambler's fallacy to provide you with your next win. Use common sense instead. 1 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
Venandi Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 (edited) 2 hours ago, Matthew said: Right Wing Loser Thought Process: Oh, deadly disaster has happened? Excellent. How can I use it to politically benefit my meaningless team? I'm actually heartened by the fact you recognize it (in principle) as an information management technique. The next step is applying this newfound skill across the board in a manner that makes you look deeper into the cause / effect factors and discerning any possible agenda/ideology contamination that may be in play. Doing that over a period of time will refine the process for you, you'll begin to anticipate likely "wag the dog" scenarios before they happen, you'll recognize the walk back clauses deliberately incorporated (pre-deployment) and you'll even start to anticipate the unintended consequences of ill advised actions before they manifest themselves. Finally, you'll begin to distinguish between the efforts to mitigate damage done (after the fact) from the self serving efforts requiring mitigation in the first place. At that point you'll become appalled by the fact others don't do it as a matter of routine. You may even come to realize who indulges in these actions the most, why they do it, and the negative consequences that result from it.... caution though, that's when real disappointment will set in. Like any skill it takes time and effort to develop... I hope you resolve to continue your personal growth journey, it is New Years after all. Edited January 2 by Venandi 1 Quote
Matthew Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 2 hours ago, WestCanMan said: OMG are you ever a slow learner. Are you just catching on now? The Dems motto has been "Never let a good tragedy go to waste" for decades, bub. Here's how this works: when a tragedy occurs, and it can be used for your own political advantage, show the victim's face and tell their heartwarming backstory, even if you have to make it up (like a Gentle Giant story). Draw a very clear picture to associate the thing/people you're against with the tragedy at the very outset while the emotions are at their peak. Blast that image home 1,000 times. Eg, the MSM spent months saying "M Brown good, pigs bad, pigs is racist" even when they knew that what they were saying was completely untrue. M Brown committed a violent robbery just moments before he was killed, and more than half of the Ferguson PD was black. If the tragedy is more likely to help your political opponents, leave the victims faceless and nameless, and most importantly: question the motives of the attackers for as long as you can, in order to disassociate their cause from the tragedy until the emotions of the event wear off. Eg, a story like "We don't know if the attacker was muslim, or whether or not it was a terrorist attack. The attacker was known to authorities", followed weeks later by "yeah it was an islamic terrorist attack, so how about them Bears?" Honestly, to a rube like you, none of that seems important, but the italicized part is actually the key component of the opinion-forming process because strong emotions form lasting memories/impressions, period, and nothing else does that. No one remembers their 11th tuna sandwich, but everyone remembers seeing their first murder. That's why associating a group to an event at the outset, when emotions are highest, solidifies the message that you want to drive home. That's why the Dems/Libs and their media flunkies always say "islam had nothing to do with it" every time someone invokes the name of allah while they're killing a group of innocent people. They'll even say things like "Sure, his parents and siblings are muslims, but he's not. He just shouted out to allah for no apparent reason. Now let's look at the real menace here: gun laws." Then they'll go on to ignore every aspect of the crime that doesn't fit their narrative. Eg, when the Danforth shooter was on his rampage in Toronto, he even told an Indo-Canadian on the street "You have nothing to worry about, brother, I'm only killing white people", and that fellow's interview was only shown on TV once... never again. The racial component was completely stripped from the narrative. It's why the liberal MSM even talked about gun laws when the van attacks happened in NY and Toronto. There were dead bodies still on the ground and they just couldn't help themselves, they just had to say "guns" and keep islam out of the storyline for as long as possible. Let's face it: when there's a terrorist attack you never think to yourself: "It was for Buddha." Or "it was done in the name of Christ or God." Or "it was probably a Hindu who's mad about the millions of Hindus slaughtered or forced out of Pakistan in 1947." Right? Not even you're stupid enough to think that. You know that it's someone who's mad about the 400 muslims killed in 1948. It always is. It happens all the time. But we're supposed to pretend that muslims aren't any more inclined to support terrorism than anyone else. Here's a thing, dummy: no one takes statistics more seriously than economists. Their university courses have the most intense statistics courses of any field of study. And a central belief of economists is that "for every person who takes the time to write your company and make a complaint about something, there are 25 other people who are also mad about that one thing but they didn't take the time to write a letter. Only about 4% of people will do that sort of thing." Does that sound about right? Now apply that line of thought to terrorist attacks. If one person is willing to strap explosives to their body and kill as many kids as they can at an Arianna Grande concert, is it likely that there are a bunch of other people in his group who also feel really strongly about killing random innocents, or is he just that far of an outlier? Fine, choose the latter, but then ask yourself why was it also the Pulse club? And van attacks in Toronto and NYC? The Boston bombing? The Danforth shooter? Fort Hood? The California couple? Why are Christmas markets always attacked by that group? Etc, etc, etc. Why don't Hindus do that? Why don't Buddhists do that? Why don't Christians do it? You never hear of people saying "This is for Jesus" and killing as many people as they can, because people don't commit mass-murders for Jesus. They do it for allah, all the time. When you say "Right-wing loser thought process", what you really mean is "Why are they always right? When are we gonna be right about something for once?" The answer is, you guys are o-fer-100 for a reason, so take note of the pattern there, and stop relying on the gambler's fallacy to provide you with your next win. Use common sense instead. A lot of words, none of which disagreed with my summary of right wing loser reaction hobbyism. Pretty much everything right wing bloviators use to describe their perception of "The Left" is actually them describing themselves. So Im glad we see eye to eye on your lame bullshit. Quote
Matthew Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 1 hour ago, Venandi said: I'm actually heartened by the fact you recognize it (in principle) as an information management technique. The next step is applying this newfound skill across the board in a manner that makes you look deeper into the cause / effect factors and discerning any possible agenda/ideology contamination that may be in play. Doing that over a period of time will refine the process for you, you'll begin to anticipate likely "wag the dog" scenarios before they happen, you'll recognize the walk back clauses deliberately incorporated (pre-deployment) and you'll even start to anticipate the unintended consequences of ill advised actions before they manifest themselves. Finally, you'll begin to distinguish between the efforts to mitigate damage done (after the fact) from the self serving efforts requiring mitigation in the first place. At that point you'll become appalled by the fact others don't do it as a matter of routine. You may even come to realize who indulges in these actions the most, why they do it, and the negative consequences that result from it.... caution though, that's when real disappointment will set in. Like any skill it takes time and effort to develop... I hope you resolve to continue your personal growth journey, it is New Years after all. I'm glad you agreed with my assessment. Quote
WestCanMan Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Matthew said: A lot of words, none of which disagreed with my summary of right wing loser reaction hobbyism. Pretty much everything right wing bloviators use to describe their perception of "The Left" is actually them describing themselves. So Im glad we see eye to eye on your lame bullshit. Pretty much everything that leftard cultist snivelers & liars use to describe "the right" is actually just them describing the Dems' own militias, Antifa and BLM, to name just a couple. The things that I was describing are concepts and how they apply to actual facts, and unfortunately the concepts are as far beyond your reckoning as the facts are buried/distorted by your scorched-earth confirmation bias. Edited January 2 by WestCanMan Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
impartialobserver Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 I would not blame Trump nor Biden on this one. It is unlikely that either knew about this individual before the attack. Possibly someone at the FBI, CIA, or Homeland Security did and did not act upon solid intel but there is no way to know about that. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 4 hours ago, Matthew said: Right Wing Loser Thought Process: Oh, deadly disaster has happened? Excellent. How can I use it to politically benefit my meaningless team? Dude, the dems literally coined the term "You never want a serious crisis to go to waste". THat was R emanuel in the 70's i believe, democrat politician and then diplomat. The republicans rarely behave that way, the dems ALWAYS do, so you're kind of calling the kettle black there. 1 Quote
West Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 4 hours ago, Matthew said: Right Wing Loser Thought Process: Oh, deadly disaster has happened? Excellent. How can I use it to politically benefit my meaningless team? You mean like democrats blaming every mass shooting on the NRA? 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 1 hour ago, Matthew said: A lot of words, none of which disagreed with my summary of right wing loser reaction hobbyism. So what you're saying is you didn't read them Quote
Venandi Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 (edited) 3 hours ago, Matthew said: I'm glad you agreed with my assessment. Nice try, it's more nuanced than that, actually I'd call it glaring... but that's just me. When intricate legislation is dropped the day following a tragedy, you immediately know two things: one, they've been sitting on that legislation for a while waiting patently (cynically and tactically) for a time to capitalize on a painful event (like vultures); and two, you immediately know who's behind the bill. You either glossed over this part and missed the point entirely, or you ignored the point and typed the first flippant answer that came to mind. I suspect it was the latter... 4 hours ago, Venandi said: You may come to realize who indulges in these actions the most, why they do it, and the negative consequences that result from it.... caution though, that's when real disappointment will set in. Edited January 2 by Venandi Quote
Venandi Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 (edited) 3 hours ago, Matthew said: Pretty much everything right wing bloviators use to describe their perception of "The Left" is actually them describing themselves. So Im glad we see eye to eye on your lame bullshit. You left out nana nana na na. It would have added the perspective and maturity that's somehow missing without it. Edited January 2 by Venandi Quote
Nationalist Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 (edited) 17 hours ago, West said: TBH Donnie had me at "Muslim ban". I'm with ya West. I spent all but the last decade proud that I hadn't any real bigoted/racist beliefs. That has changed. I would round up every single Muslim "refugee" and ILLEGAL, and send 'em all packing. These people and their incredibly violent religion do not play well with others. They show up fully intending to make us bend to their beliefs and culture. I SAY FCK 'EM!!! I've had enough! If some who are actually trying to assimilate and be good citizens, and get deported... Tough Sh1t! I'm sorry but these people have spent all the good will I have. Edited January 2 by Nationalist 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 15 hours ago, Hodad said: Eh, if you're dumb enough to blame the Ukraine war and the massacre in Israel on Joe Biden (and let's face it, you are) them clearly this is an inevitable attack "provoked and emboldened" by the impending a Trump inauguration and his publicly disclosed policy positions. You are a blithering id1ot! 1 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
West Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 What's becoming even more wild is the two terrorists from yesterday served at the same base as the guy who tried to assassinate Trump at Maralago in the summer 1 Quote
Michael Hardner Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 5 hours ago, impartialobserver said: I would not blame Trump nor Biden on this one. It is unlikely that either knew about this individual before the attack. Possibly someone at the FBI, CIA, or Homeland Security did and did not act upon solid intel but there is no way to know about that. Thank you. There's no second guessing intelligence operations. That's why they call it. The deep.... Deep... State Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Black Dog Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 22 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: A terrorist ran over 15(?) people in New Orleans and planted IEDs near the scene ahead of time, and terrorist rented a CyberTruck and detonated a bomb outside the Trump tower and the FBI caught a guy planning to shoot up the AIPA office in Florida. So how will the press make this Trump's fault? The guy who merked himself in the cybertruck was a big time Trump guy fyi. 1 Quote
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