Mayor says he refuses to be bullied or pay fine for not flying Pride flag

[Zeitgeist]

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Failing to comply can be a contempt of court charge believe it or not, and the people suing will be the complaints who brought this to the tribunal in the first place. They will have a number of collection options to come after the people for money. Bradley the state can enforce its demands that others Pay homage to the gay and lesbian community by police force if necessary

So we went from removing laws that banned homosexual acts because most people thought that they were unnatural and immoral to making the public celebrate acts that many people still think are unnatural or immoral, punishable by drastic fines and possible charges. Not even Sodom issued penalties for not supporting homosexual acts. Pathetic. 

Edited December 4, 2024 by Zeitgeist

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

So we went from removing laws that banned homosexual acts because most people thought that they were unnatural and immoral to making the public celebrate acts that many people still think are unnatural or immoral, punishable by drastic fines and possible charges

So far. 

[Zeitgeist]

6 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

So far. 

Well that’s exactly right.  We’ve seen a pretty fast creep from restrictions on gay acts to removing those restrictions to legal gay marriage marriage to new requirements for homosexual symbols in the public square, and not just homosexual symbols.  If the general public knew at the time that we’d eventually land at this place, I don’t think they’d have supported gay marriage.

The whole HRC and government funding of these radical interests must go.  

Edited December 4, 2024 by Zeitgeist

[Moonlight Graham]

4 hours ago, herbie said:

Just how dumb are you? The point was they got nailed for refusing to fly the flag rather than simply not flying a rainbow flag.
Got it?
They made a f*cking point about the subject which was discriminatory and paid the price. WTF do you think, that an elected official can stand in front of a news camera and shout "I hate them fags, f*ck 'em" and that's their freedumb of speech? I suppose you're one of them arses demanding your town ban rainbow crosswalks too?

I support LGBT and Pride events.  I don't support the government telling every city council or mayor they have to fly flags for X or Y causes.   Same with crosswalks.  That's up to each the city.

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, Venandi said:

Sad to say I tend to agree and I think a lot of old school (traditional) liberals feel duped by all of this.

I was routinely teased in the 70s and 80s for being a raving liberal. Now I'm accused of being a hardcore MAGA fascist... the kicker is that my political views haven't changed a damn bit since my early 20s, the political landscape has sure shifted under my feet though.

 

 

 

[CdnFox]

4 minutes ago, Venandi said:

oops, after returning from a phone call I just deleted that thinking I was saving an edit. 

That would be the internet equivalent of stepping on a piece of Lego in the middle of the night

[Politics1990]

got no problem with gay marriage  if your happy then you should be able to marry whoever you want  or supporting lgbtq rights but kind of draw the line when there threating  to fine a mayor for not flying a pride flag

[Legato]

20 hours ago, herbie said:

Just how dumb are you? The point was they got nailed for refusing to fly the flag rather than simply not flying a rainbow flag.
Got it?
They made a f*cking point about the subject which was discriminatory and paid the price. WTF do you think, that an elected official can stand in front of a news camera and shout "I hate them fags, f*ck 'em" and that's their freedumb of speech? I suppose you're one of them arses demanding your town ban rainbow crosswalks too?

 

So. I will tell you to display Conservatives signs all over your house. If you refuse it will be deemed as discriminatory and subject to a hearing before the HRC. 

[blackbird]

21 hours ago, herbie said:

The point was they got nailed for refusing to fly the flag rather than simply not flying a rainbow flag.

So in your twisted little mind there is a difference between refusing to fly a flag and not flying a flag.  How bizarre and twisted can you get?

[Moonbox]

On 12/3/2024 at 1:02 PM, Michael Hardner said:

Maybe - but I think it would be better if everyone just ignored these cultural spats and focused on what's important.  

I'm responding to this days later, but I think you're prevaricating.  On one hand you're right.  People should focus on what's important.  On the other hand, we have an obvious case of people doing exactly the opposite, going nuclear on a nothing-burger and bringing government institutions to bear against people who aren't doing what they want them to.  

In a normal, reasonable world, the worst that should happen here is that folks view the Township of Emo as backward, old-fashioned, or perhaps a bit ignorant.  Maybe if the Township didn't like the negative attention, they'd vote the Mayor out, or maybe they'd quietly appreciate it.  It's up to them. 

Instead, now we are living through the batshit madness of the CHRC laying the hammer down and imposing fines on people for not flying a rainbow flag.  

If anyone is struggling to understand how a turd like Trump gets elected (a second time no less), you need look no further than cases like this.  

 

[herbie]

3 hours ago, blackbird said:

So in your twisted little mind there is a difference between refusing to fly a flag and not flying a flag.  How bizarre and twisted can you get?

How dim is your perception that you're unable to see.

Oh wait, you're one of those so-called Christians supporting rapist criminals to lead your agenda of hate.

[blackbird]

32 minutes ago, herbie said:

Oh wait, you're one of those so-called Christians supporting rapist criminals to lead your agenda of hate.

No, I don't.  You like to invent things.  

Not sure what criminals you are referring to. 

Try to stick to the topic.  We talking about forcing somebody to fly or not fly a flag.

Next you will want everyone to be forced to wear drag queen clothes and rainbow hats.

 

 

Edited December 5, 2024 by blackbird

[Dougie93]

On 12/3/2024 at 9:50 AM, Zeitgeist said:

Good luck, Mayor.  You don’t have freedom of speech, religious rights, or the freedom to vote with your conscience in Canada, a country that is run by radical activists and unaccountable “Human Rights Commissions.”

You really have to go back to 1930’s Germany and Russia to find this level of suppression in a so-called democracy in the West.  Canadians aren’t doing anything about it either, because they’ve been cowed into compliance by government and media.  Frozen bank accounts and public doxing anyone?

This is all about social engineering and disempowering the family unit and local democracy, paid for by your tax dollars, yes the LGBTQ+ Egale and the HRC included.

The whole institutional mess needs a revamp.  It’s not happening because not even the Ontario Conservative government has the guts.

Canada is no longer a free country.  

ironically, it is the radical left in Canada which has figured out how to employ the authority of the monarch

as this all comes down to the King's Peace

which is all about staving off a revolt against the Crown

the radical left has successfully propagated the "LGBTQ" ideology as being the widely accepted norm therein

those who oppose said ideology then become the most likely to incite civil disorder against the King's Peace

in essence, if you, as an individual, stir up trouble against the socially accepted norms

then you become the problem for the Crown

it's the same thing you see at the Pro Hamas protests

if there's a hundred pro Hamas protesters in the street

and then you show up and start waving an Israeli flag in their faces

you are the one disturbing the King's Peace,

and that's how you will be charged under Section 31 of the Criminal Code  "breach of the peace"

you will see Canadians arguing with the police therein, as if they are Americans

while the police try to explain to them that they are not in fact Americans;

Canada is not a republic, Canada is a monarchy, and it is in fact HM The King ordering you to comply therein

[herbie]

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

Next you will want everyone to be forced to wear drag queen clothes and rainbow hats.

No we're not. We're talking about bigoted arseholes that refuse to respect others and act like it's a civil right.
If you think that is a right, you're one of them.

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

No we're not. We're talking about bigoted arseholes that refuse to respect others and act like it's a civil right.
If you think that is a right, you're one of them.

  The reason why you think people who don't fly pride flags when told to are being disrespectful is obvious.  You follow evil spirits that tell you sodomy is not evil.  And you even claim that not actively supporting it is disrespectful.  Your evil spirits tell you nobody has the right to their religious beliefs and they must bow to your beliefs.  What about the rights of people who believe it is sinful?

Get off the road to hell and repent.

Edited December 6, 2024 by blackbird

[herbie]

Like George Carlin I;m sick of the Bible thumping malcreants.
History repeating itself 40 years later

 

Edited December 6, 2024 by herbie

[CdnFox]

47 minutes ago, herbie said:

Like George Carlin I;m sick of the Bible thumping malcreants.
History repeating itself 40 years late

 

Well he's dead. I wonder what he thinks about god now?

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, blackbird said:

The fact is Christians are under attack in some quarters in Canada.  We are going to start seeing resistance to this attack on Christians and Christianity.  This may be what is happening to the mayor and council in Emo, Ontario and anyone who dares stand for their right to remain neutral.

"The incoming vice-president of the United States, JD Vance, has come to the defence of a Conservative MP who says Canadian Christians are being persecuted and need protection from Ottawa.

Durham MP (and former National Post columnist) Jamil Jivani, is promoting a petition that he intends to present in Ottawa in February 2025. In a video posted to the X social media platform, Jivani says he is “sounding the alarm. We must protect Christians in Canada from governments and corporations abusing their power in our country, and from anti-Christian bigotry.”

JD Vance backs Conservative MP Jamil Jivani’s campaign for protection of Canadian Christians

You know that wasn't me that actually said that right? That was me quoting Herbie

Edited December 7, 2024 by CdnFox

[blackbird]

16 hours ago, CdnFox said:

You know that wasn't me that actually said that right? That was me quoting Herbie

Sorry.  Yes I see what you mean.  I will try to correct that.

[blackbird]

On 12/5/2024 at 6:03 PM, herbie said:

Like George Carlin I;m sick of the Bible thumping malcreants.
History repeating itself 40 years later

The fact is Christians are under attack in some quarters in Canada.  We are going to start seeing resistance to this attack on Christians and Christianity.  This may be what is happening to the mayor and council in Emo, Ontario and anyone who dares stand for their right to remain neutral.

"The incoming vice-president of the United States, JD Vance, has come to the defence of a Conservative MP who says Canadian Christians are being persecuted and need protection from Ottawa.

Durham MP (and former National Post columnist) Jamil Jivani, is promoting a petition that he intends to present in Ottawa in February 2025. In a video posted to the X social media platform, Jivani says he is “sounding the alarm. We must protect Christians in Canada from governments and corporations abusing their power in our country, and from anti-Christian bigotry.”

JD Vance backs Tory MP’s campaign to protect Canadian Christians | National Post

[gatomontes99]

The Mayor had his bank account drained. Did they even have a trial?

[User]

20 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

The Mayor had his bank account drained. Did they even have a trial?

Absolute madness. 

Then you have folks on here who pretend like there are no culture wars to fight and anyone that opposed this crap is just making it up as an issue. 

 

[Michael Hardner]

3 minutes ago, User said:

 

Then you have folks on here who pretend like there are no culture wars to fight and anyone that opposed this crap is just making it up as an issue. 

 

If you think there is a culture war to fight, then you think the opening Salvo was legitimate right? After all. It's a war.

[User]

2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

If you think there is a culture war to fight, then you think the opening Salvo was legitimate right? After all. It's a war.

Elaborate. What culture war is it you think I think there is to fight? What is this opening salvo you speak of and what makes you think it was legitimate?

 

[Michael Hardner]

2 minutes ago, User said:

Elaborate. What culture war is it you think I think there is to fight? What is this opening salvo you speak of and what makes you think it was legitimate?

 

If you think there's a war then your opponents think there's a war. Some small town guy wants to not fly a flag. 

If there's a war then they will go after him. That's what war is. No prisoners, you just go after them. 

Do you think this is a good use of our public dialogue? Do you think that we should all be talking about a flag in emo, Ontario? 

War is a waste of time and resources on both sides