Conservatives say "Leftists did these these bad things", Leftists say "Conservative are Nazis so they will do these bad things"

[WestCanMan]

The general pattern of the threads here, if you look at them all, take the form of

1. conservatives calling leftists out for their mismanagement, known lies, abysmal failures, racist policies, etc
2. leftists calling conservatives names, making dire predictions of what they'll do, and citing anonymous sources to make serious claims

The laundry list of the Biden and Trudeau regimes' failures is like a roadmap of "how to get from freedom and prosperity to corruption and decay". Whether we're talking about

• the economy,
• the safety of our cities,
• the state of our democracy,
• individual rights,
• women's right to compete against other women,
• the freedom and integrity of the media,
• open borders,
• crime resulting from the border,
• the diminishing integrity of elections, etc,

conservatives can lay out actual, verifiable, incontrovertible facts and proofs of their positions on every single one of those issues. There's not a single thing there that can't be proven to be true.

By contrast, the laundry list of leftist talking points is a trash heap of unsubstantiated and disproven slanders and lies. Whether we're talking about:

• Russian collusion,
• Russian disinformation on a laptop,
• the need to vaccinate young healthy people against covid,
• the immorality of requiring ID to vote,
• whenever a black guy hets killed by the police it's only because cops re all racist
• trans men should be allowed to compete against women and change in girls' bathrooms,
• the lynching of Jussie,
• the hijab hoax in Canada,
• the racism and misogyny of vaccination pro-choice activists,
• the alleged fascism of conservatives, etc,

leftists can't point to any facts at all. There's not a single thing there that hasn't already been proven to be a lie, and those were all MAJOR stories. In fact, the majority of those stories actually ended up becoming damning indictments of the legacy media. Catherine Herridge just admitted that CBS news is fake BS, and they control narratives, but the other MSM outlets all had the exact same access to information as CBS did, it's just that Catherine Herridge is the first big talking head to outright spill the beans.

So now, in order for the leftards to keep talking, they have no choice but to base their new attacks on conservatives based on "what ifs", or pile new slander on their old, previously debunked slander. 

The template for myata/Radiorum/laftard threads in general is now: "Because we know that conservatives are all fascists and dogs, and they [insert debunked leftist lies and slander here], we also know that they'll do that [insert a new accusation in a mirror here] now that Trump is president. The end of democracy is nigh brothers and sisters! Only drinking this Kool-aid can save you from eternal damnation." 

 

If there's a laftard here that can prove Jussie was lynched, or that women in hijabs in North America are the world's most targeted group of innocents, or that anti-pseudovaxxers are racists and misogynists, or that young healthy people needed the jabs, or anything else, go right ahead. I openly invite you to challenge anything I said here. 

[West]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

The general pattern of the threads here, if you look at them all, take the form of

1. conservatives calling leftists out for their mismanagement, known lies, abysmal failures, racist policies, etc
2. leftists calling conservatives names, making dire predictions of what they'll do, and citing anonymous sources to make serious claims

The laundry list of the Biden and Trudeau regimes' failures is like a roadmap of "how to get from freedom and prosperity to corruption and decay". Whether we're talking about

• the economy,
• the safety of our cities,
• the state of our democracy,
• individual rights,
• women's right to compete against other women,
• the freedom and integrity of the media,
• open borders,
• crime resulting from the border,
• the diminishing integrity of elections, etc,

conservatives can lay out actual, verifiable, incontrovertible facts and proofs of their positions on every single one of those issues. There's not a single thing there that can't be proven to be true.

By contrast, the laundry list of leftist talking points is a trash heap of unsubstantiated and disproven slanders and lies. Whether we're talking about:

• Russian collusion,
• Russian disinformation on a laptop,
• the need to vaccinate young healthy people against covid,
• the immorality of requiring ID to vote,
• whenever a black guy hets killed by the police it's only because cops re all racist
• trans men should be allowed to compete against women and change in girls' bathrooms,
• the lynching of Jussie,
• the hijab hoax in Canada,
• the racism and misogyny of vaccination pro-choice activists,
• the alleged fascism of conservatives, etc,

leftists can't point to any facts at all. There's not a single thing there that hasn't already been proven to be a lie, and those were all MAJOR stories. In fact, the majority of those stories actually ended up becoming damning indictments of the legacy media. Catherine Herridge just admitted that CBS news is fake BS, and they control narratives, but the other MSM outlets all had the exact same access to information as CBS did, it's just that Catherine Herridge is the first big talking head to outright spill the beans.

So now, in order for the leftards to keep talking, they have no choice but to base their new attacks on conservatives based on "what ifs", or pile new slander on their old, previously debunked slander. 

The template for myata/Radiorum/laftard threads in general is now: "Because we know that conservatives are all fascists and dogs, and they [insert debunked leftist lies and slander here], we also know that they'll do that [insert a new accusation in a mirror here] now that Trump is president. The end of democracy is nigh brothers and sisters! Only drinking this Kool-aid can save you from eternal damnation." 

 

If there's a laftard here that can prove Jussie was lynched, or that women in hijabs in North America are the world's most targeted group of innocents, or that anti-pseudovaxxers are racists and misogynists, or that young healthy people needed the jabs, or anything else, go right ahead. I openly invite you to challenge anything I said here. 

Thank you for so eloquent laying this out 

[Radiorum]

Talk about revisionist history.

And don't put words in my mouth.

 

[robosmith]

MORE LIES. No one says "conservative are Nazis."

Trump is a not even a conservative, but his parallels to Nazis is undeniable.

But only to those who KNOW THE HISTORY of how Hitler achieved his power.

[WestCanMan]

40 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

Talk about revisionist history.

And don't put words in my mouth.

 

You're so stupid that you don't even realize that you just proved my point.

I just laid out a string of facts, and you countered with nothing but vague slander. You just used the leftist template like the perfect little cultist that you are. 

[WestCanMan]

4 minutes ago, robosmith said:

MORE LIES. No one says "conservative are Nazis."

Trump is a not even a conservative, but his parallels to Nazis is undeniable.

But only to those who KNOW THE HISTORY of how Hitler achieved his power.

Lying stooge.

Right before the election the MSM equated a Trump rally in MSG being the same as a Nazi rally in MSG. No holds barred, they just belched it out as if it somehow made sense. 

HITLER SEIZED POWER THE SME WAY THE DEMS DID, DUMMY!

He controlled the media and used the courts and dirty police (FBI) to do his bidding. 

The Dems openly followed Hitler's template and you were their useful id10t in that, and you still are. 

[eyeball]

4 minutes ago, robosmith said:

But only to those who KNOW THE HISTORY of how Hitler achieved his power.

It was only achieved when the conservative German Nationalist People's Party supported the NAZI's and provided them the majority they needed.

 

 

[Radiorum]

55 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

You're so stupid that you don't even realize that you just proved my point.

Lol, I think what you proved is that you didn't understand mine.

55 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I just laid out a string of facts

But they weren't facts. A simple reading of all the threads that I have posted in will easily prove this.

You may think they are the truth, but you need to understand the difference between subjective and objective truth. Subjective truth is personal truth, and it is overly influenced by personal viewpoints. What you posted was your subjective truth, and if I may say so, delusion.

But, okay, you want to go there. You want to compare Left and Right. How about if we consider conspiracy theories characteristic of either side?

 

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Pearson-correlations-between-beliefs-in-conspiracy-theories-and-partisan-and-ideological_fig1_362198938

 

What you'll notice is that conspiracy theories of the Right are easily refuted by facts. The Right is more influenced than informed. (And they are less educated and more religiously affiliated.)

And conspiracy theories of the left are based on facts. They are more informed than influenced.

 

 

 

[Dougie93]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

You're so stupid that you don't even realize that you just proved my point.

this guy is hilarious

he's still chirruping as if the election is not over and he hasn't already lost therein

these leftists truly are detached from reality

lol

Edited November 28, 2024 by Dougie93

[Dougie93]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

It was only achieved when the conservative German Nationalist People's Party supported the NAZI's and provided them the majority they needed.

nonsense, the GNP only took 5% of the vote

the reason Hitler won, is that the left was split

the Social Democrats took 21% of the vote

the Communists took 14% of the vote

the Centre Party took 12% of the vote

while the NSDAP won a plurality with 37% of the vote

 

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Radiorum said:

Lol, I think what you proved is that you didn't understand mine.

But they weren't facts. A simple reading of all the threads that I have posted in will easily prove this.

You may think they are the truth, but you need to understand the difference between subjective and objective truth. Subjective truth is personal truth, and it is overly influenced by personal viewpoints. What you posted was your subjective truth, and if I may say so, delusion.

But, okay, you want to go there. You want to compare Left and Right. How about if we consider conspiracy theories characteristic of either side?

OK, stupid, let's go right to the top one on the chart...

"Was the covid threat exaggerated."

That wasn't a conspiracy theory at all f-nut. The covid threat absolutely was exaggerated. It's threat-level for young healthy people was MASSIVELY exaggerated. It's threat-level for people under 20 was exaggerated beyond any possible reckoning. In the first two years of covid (22 months to be exact) less that 20 people under 20 yrs old had died of covid in all of Canada. And not even from covid, more like with covid. That's a quarter of the population of Canada, 20 deaths, 2 years. The regular flu kills that many kids.

In two years approximately 300 kids die in car accidents alone. In fact, as a result of kids being driven around less than usual during covid, there were probably less kids killed in 2020 in the "car accidents plus covid deaths" category than by "car accidents" alone in every single one of the previous 50 years. 

Covid ABSOLUTELY did not pose a strong enough risk to kids to warrant an experimental vaccination. Ditto for young adults. That's an absolute fact and no one has ever even tried to prove it isn't. 

That's just a classic case of laftards calling something a "conspiracy theory" when it's absolutely true. 

 

OMG kid, I just looked at that chart again. It's basically f-head central. 

"Frame OJ Simpson"? 🤣

"Conspiracy to kill police"? What does that even mean?

"Trump cover-up symptoms"? Huh? 

"Covid vax"... Are they admitting the jab was a joke? You know that we had more covid deaths in 2022 than any other year, by a massive margin. 

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/231127/dq231127b-eng.htm

^That's^ from the gov't of Canada... and theres no higher authority on covid deaths, right?

• COVID-19 deaths highest since start of the pandemic

  The number of COVID-19 deaths increased from 14,466 in 2021 to 19,716 in 2022, the highest number of such deaths recorded since the beginning of the pandemic. This increase may in part be due to the exposure to new highly transmissible COVID-19 variants and the gradual return to normalcy (e.g., reduced restrictions and masking requirements).

  The proportion of COVID-19 deaths among older Canadians aged 65 years and older rose to 91.4% in 2022, approaching early pandemic levels. This increase was largely felt by seniors aged 80 years and older, who experienced a 78.2% increase in COVID-19 deaths from 2021 to 2022. In contrast, deaths due to COVID-19 decreased to 8.6% for those younger than 65 years in 2022.

  During the first year of the pandemic, older Canadians (65 years of age and older) accounted for 94.1% of COVID-19 deaths, while those aged 45 to 64 years accounted for 5.3%. In 2021, while the number of COVID-19 deaths among individuals aged 65 years and older (82.0%) remained high, the proportion of deaths among those aged 45 to 64 years nearly tripled to 15.5%.

And in the cohort of Canadians with the highest "vaccination" levels, deaths went up by 78.2%.

For some reason the number of covid deaths in 2020 wasn't on that page above, so I found a CTV article with that number below:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/how-canada-s-covid-19-death-toll-stacks-up-to-history-1.5254420

• there were 15,606 people killed by the novel coronavirus in this country in 2020

15,606 in 2020, and 19,716 in 2022. A 26.33% increase. You'd never notice it from the media coverage lol. 

2020: The Cdn media said "COVID IS KILLING EVERYONE!" 24/7. 15,606 dead

2022: The Cdn media said "The pandemic is over" and they almost never talked about it. 19,716 dead. 

Do you think I'm wrong Radiorum?

You honestly believe what you believe about covid because you never bothered to look at any of the facts yourself. You accepted the MSM narrative of it, which was 100% false. 

 

Thanks for the chart, dipshit. Now go hang your head in shame. 

 

 

Edited to add: https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/publications/diseases-conditions/fluwatch/2019-2020/annual-report.html

in 2018-19 there were 10 pediatric flu deaths in Canada, and there were 7 in 2019-2020. 17 total, compared to 19 covid deaths in the first 22 months of covid. I didn't get the number at exactly 2 years:

Above: From the beginning of covid until Dec 10 2021 there were 19 covid deatsh 0-20 yrs old. 

 

Edited November 28, 2024 by WestCanMan

[Radiorum]

27 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

"Was the covid threat exaggerated."

I've never made a Covid-related or vaccination-related comment. You have me confused with someone else.

 

[WestCanMan]

33 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

I've never made a Covid-related or vaccination-related comment. You have me confused with someone else.

 

It's at the very top of the stupid "conspiracy theories" chart that you posted. Go look again.

Did you honestly just post that without knowing what was there? 

To be fair to the laftards, the ones that they got sucked in by weren't exactly "conspiracy theories", because they were in the MSM.  

 

One more thing... Seeing as you're a diehard leftist, I already know what you think about covid and the jabs

Edited November 29, 2024 by WestCanMan

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

the reason Hitler won, is that the left was split

That still doesn't explain why a conservative party would join the NAZI's. 

Unless it took a fascist to know one.

 

[Michael Hardner]

7 minutes ago, eyeball said:

That still doesn't explain why a conservative party would join the NAZI's. 

Unless it took a fascist to know one.

 

That's also a statement that the Nazis represented the right wing in Germany.  It's not always easy to get people to admit that fact.

 

[robosmith]

5 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Lying stooge.

Right before the election the MSM equated a Trump rally in MSG being the same as a Nazi rally in MSG. No holds barred, they just belched it out as if it somehow made sense. 

HITLER SEIZED POWER THE SME WAY THE DEMS DID, DUMMY!

The Dems won the election in 2020, lDIOT.

It was Trump who attempted INSURRECTION at the Capitol just like Hitler did. Only difference was Hitler spent time in jail for his CRIME and the Dems were too slow to do that to Trump.

5 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

He controlled the media and used the courts and dirty police (FBI) to do his bidding. 

It's always been Trump who slandered the media and controlled public PERCEPTION of it.

Using typically FASCIST bullshit like the media being the "enemy of the people."

You agreeing with him only shows just how deeply YOU'VE BEEN CONNED.

5 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

The Dems openly followed Hitler's template and you were their useful id10t in that, and you still are. 

Further ^proof of just how CONNED YOU ARE.

The thing with you is, you KNOW NOTHING about Trump's LONG HISTORY of CONNING people like YOURSELF. Duh.

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

this guy is hilarious

he's still chirruping as if the election is not over and he hasn't already lost therein

these leftists truly are detached from reality

lol

Winning the election only proves one thing: just how successfully Trump CONNED the entire MAGA CULT.

[Dougie93]

29 minutes ago, robosmith said:

It was Trump who attempted INSURRECTION at the Capitol just like Hitler did. Only difference was Hitler spent time in jail for his CRIME and the Dems were too slow to do that to Trump..

nonsense, Trump never tried to storm the government like Adolf Hitler did

all he said was go and protest, which is entirely liberal and democratic

no different than the Democrats trying to storm the Pentagon during the Vietnam War

that's the genius of Trump ; he steals the leftists platforms and turns their own tactics against them

no wonder you are so confounded by him

Edited November 29, 2024 by Dougie93

[Dougie93]

30 minutes ago, robosmith said:

It's always been Trump who slandered the media and controlled public PERCEPTION of it.

Using typically FASCIST bullshit like the media being the "enemy of the people.".

everybody who is not a Woke Progressive lunatic hates the media with a passion

Trump is just going with the flow

you're just mad because you leftists couldn't do what Trump did

beat you at your own game, suckahs

[eyeball]

38 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

That's also a statement that the Nazis represented the right wing in Germany.  It's not always easy to get people to admit that fact.

That would take the fun out of rubbing their noses in it.

I wonder why they can't just own it? It's not like they need to embrace it. I mean the left has Stalin to be ashamed of... notwithstanding the fact the German right wing signed a Pact with Stalin.

What is it with conservatives never seeming to be able to give up their adoration for strongmen?

Edited November 29, 2024 by eyeball

[Michael Hardner]

6 minutes ago, eyeball said:

 

What is it with conservatives never seeming to be able to give up their adoration for strongmen?

Strong men aren't what they used to be. 

They don't even have people of character anymore as far as I can see. 

I think there's also a kind of epidemic of people who don't want to do their own jobs.  

[DUI_Offender]

21 minutes ago, eyeball said:

That would take the fun out of rubbing their noses in it.

I wonder why they can't just own it? It's not like they need to embrace it. I mean the left has Stalin to be ashamed of... notwithstanding the fact the German right wing signed a Pact with Stalin.

What is it with conservatives never seeming to be able to give up their adoration for strongmen?

If one were to look at social media, more and more right wingers are starting to do just that. For the first time ever, Hitler is being portrayed in a sympathetic light by many right wing accounts I see now. Many of Trump's actions and policy's mimic the policies of the Third Reich. 

[herbie]

How would Trashcanman know what conservatives say? He sure as hell isn't one of them. They're extreme leftists in his book.

[Legato]

Oh look a trifecta+1 of nonsensical nothings trying (and failing) to cope with the butthurt.

TDS does have side effects after all.

[Five of swords]

8 hours ago, robosmith said:

MORE LIES. No one says "conservative are Nazis."

Trump is a not even a conservative, but his parallels to Nazis is undeniable.

But only to those who KNOW THE HISTORY of how Hitler achieved his power.

Lol nobody knows anything about Hitler except people who like him. The rest of you just watch Spielberg movies