Congrats, Canadian MAGA wannabes, you'll get a taste of your own dumb medicine

[CouchPotato]

11 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

The situation for the past 18 months, has been quite different. The border crossers are mainly East Indians, who are not Canadian citizens, and trying to find employment in America. There is no "national security" issues. It's more of a matter of eradicating immigration from South Asia for a few years.

OK, so you immediately dismiss the opinion of a man who has worked in border patrol for years and also has been an acting director of ice, and then you make an infantile comparison to Nazism. But Americans should take your word for it about who is crossing their border. It's all good guys. DUI_Offender says it's mainly Indians looking for work. It's not like terrorists would ever think to exploit that situation. Nothing to see here.

Edited November 26, 2024 by CouchPotato

[NAME REMOVED]

19 minutes ago, ironstone said:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/illegal-migration-canada-united-states-1.7320623

What's wrong with any country having a secure border and vetting those that want to enter?

 

It goes both way. It's hypocritical to complain about Canada, and lump us with Mexico, when we have had roughly 1/200 of the amounted of undocumented migrants from Mexico, and 1/10,000 of fentanyl exports.

The onus is also on the Americans to catch the Indians crossing the border. Canada had the reverse problem in 2017 with Somalians, and you do not hear us complaining about America, or threatening the US with tariffs.

19 minutes ago, ironstone said:

It most certainly is a national security issue if you don't know who is coming into the country and where they go or what they are doing.

People have, in insignificant numbers, crossed both borders illegally for decades. In fact, Canada has more of a right to argue illegals threaten our national security than the Americans do. Serial killers and wanted criminals often come to Canada, with disastrous results. IN Calgary alone, two serial killers ended up in the city less than a decade apart.

Charles Ng murdered over 20 women in California, and shot a security guard in 1985 in Calgary. Another serial killer fled America, only to murder four young women in the late 1970s. The case was just resolved last year. Perhaps Americans should look at themselves in the mirror, but with Trump at the helm, we know that is not going to happen.

I always found it ironic that Trump painted Mexican immigrants as "rapists and violent criminals," when Canada could say the same thing about dozens of Americans who have fled to Canada after committing horrific crimes.

Edited November 26, 2024 by DUI_Offender

[Black Dog]

17 minutes ago, CouchPotato said:

OK, so you immediately dismiss the opinion of a man who has worked in border patrol for years and also has been an acting director of ice, and then you make an infantile comparison to Nazism. But Americans should take your word for it about who is crossing their border. It's all good guys. DUI_Offender says it's mainly Indians looking for work. It's not like terrorists would ever think to exploit that situation. Nothing to see here.

You're asking us to take the word of a guy who delights in separating children from their parents.

[CouchPotato]

Just now, Black Dog said:

You're asking us to take the word of a guy who delights in separating children from their parents.

As he said before congress, when you arrest someone for a crime you temporarily separate them from their parents. This applies to citizens as well as non-citizens.

[Black Dog]

18 minutes ago, CouchPotato said:

As he said before congress, when you arrest someone for a crime you temporarily separate them from their parents. This applies to citizens as well as non-citizens.

Yes I know you freaks delight in inflicting cruelty on out groups.

[herbie]

The onus is on protecting your country by vetting who's coming in, not who's leaving. As usual the Orange Imbecile has got it backwards (like his 19th Century tariff economics).
Part of his repeated mass deception that to save the USA some expense other countries should protect their border for them.

Halt! Your papers! Show us your papers! I don't see any Exit Visa! Take him away!

As for the drugs, look at it with pure logic. They're taking drugs out of the country and bringing money back in. That's a win/win for us.

[CdnFox]

7 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

Call me cynical, but I really do not think the average American voter has any understanding of tariffs, and the consequences of imposing them on their trade partners. 

The left wings answer to absolutely everybody who disagrees with them is that "You just don't understand!". Like you're some teenagers who think their parents don't get what it's like to go through puberty.

They understand fine. They also understand what a negotiating tactic is. You seem a little unclear on both.

And let me remind you that any tariff money collected actually goes to the federal government's pockets which means they have more room to do things on tax reduction.

Trudeau will handle it but there is an obvious way to deal with this

[CdnFox]

23 minutes ago, herbie said:

The onus is on protecting your country by vetting who's coming in, not who's leaving.

These people are coming into our country and then exiting into the US. So it is absolutely our problem because we're not vetting who's coming in. And we're not tracking them.

Harper foresaw this was going to be a problem and made it a requirement that Mexicans for example provide a passport when coming to Canada. Trudeau took that away. Now it's a problem.

As usual vote woke go broke. If we're allowing people to come into the country and then illegally cross our border into america then we have no one to blame but ourselves when they retaliate.

[ironstone]

3 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

It goes both way. It's hypocritical to complain about Canada, and lump us with Mexico, when we have had roughly 1/200 of the amounted of undocumented migrants from Mexico, and 1/10,000 of fentanyl exports.

The onus is also on the Americans to catch the Indians crossing the border. Canada had the reverse problem in 2017 with Somalians, and you do not hear us complaining about America, or threatening the US with tariffs.

People have, in insignificant numbers, crossed both borders illegally for decades. In fact, Canada has more of a right to argue illegals threaten our national security than the Americans do. Serial killers and wanted criminals often come to Canada, with disastrous results. IN Calgary alone, two serial killers ended up in the city less than a decade apart.

Charles Ng murdered over 20 women in California, and shot a security guard in 1985 in Calgary. Another serial killer fled America, only to murder four young women in the late 1970s. The case was just resolved last year. Perhaps Americans should look at themselves in the mirror, but with Trump at the helm, we know that is not going to happen.

I always found it ironic that Trump painted Mexican immigrants as "rapists and violent criminals," when Canada could say the same thing about dozens of Americans who have fled to Canada after committing horrific crimes.

I am equally concerned about illegal alien criminals regardless of which country they came from.

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

It goes both way. It's hypocritical to complain about Canada, and lump us with Mexico, when we have had roughly 1/200 of the amounted of undocumented migrants from Mexico, and 1/10,000 of fentanyl exports.

It's not hypocritical in the slightest. In fact it's inevitable. If somebody breaks into your home and steals $1,000 worth of stuff, and at the same time someone else breaks in and steals $100 worth of stuff, and you catch them both you're not going to say, this guy only stole $100 worth of stuff there's no point in punishing him. Instead you're going to say both of them deserve to go to jail and treat them both the same way.

This was entirely predictable and because Justin Trudeau turned a blind eye to it America is pissed

[robosmith]

10 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Gee...maybe we should...

1. Dump Pixie-Dust

2. Close our border

3. Begin deporting all those beautiful "refugees" infesting our hotels and parks

Thanks for demonstrating your admiration for fascist ideology.

Nazi Leader Would Rid Germany of "jewish Vermin"

Jewish Telegraphic Agency

https://www.jta.org › archive › nazi-leader-would-rid-g...

 

Germany is urged to get rid of its “Jewish vermin”, in an election article published in the “Hamburg Beobachter,” Nazi organ, by Wilhelm Kube.

Trump calls enemies 'vermin,' echoing Hitler and Nazis

Spectrum News NY1

https://ny1.com › all-boroughs › news › 2023/11/13 › t...

 

Nov 13, 2023 — Trump labels enemies 'vermin,' echoing Hitler and Nazi propaganda, historians and Biden campaign say. By Joseph Konig Nationwide. PUBLISHED 7 ...

[impartialobserver]

obviously no way of knowing the impact until it happens but the proposed tariffs are going to be impactful. All of this depends on the US being able to produce the same goods at the same cost or lower. We know that is not reality. So that will lead to price increases for some goods. 

[eyeball]

9 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

The sad thing is, it's ultimately going to be the American consumer who is affected the most. 

That's the hilarious thing about all this.

[Michael Hardner]

4 minutes ago, eyeball said:

That's the hilarious thing about all this.

Again... Let's try for solidarity.  Maybe half of the workers didn't ask for this, and some of the ones who did had no idea what it entailed.

Our system has set us up for this.  If there were more equality and merit in the system, people wouldn't see a schism between the promise and the reality.  They'd be less willing to turn the hotdog cart over...

 

[eyeball]

It's no wonder tariff is Trump's favorite word, he actually seems to think it's a bribe everyone's going to pay for the pleasure of pleasing him.

[Hodad]

11 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

obviously no way of knowing the impact until it happens but the proposed tariffs are going to be impactful. All of this depends on the US being able to produce the same goods at the same cost or lower. We know that is not reality. So that will lead to price increases for some goods. 

Don't we know the impact? Higher prices and less choice. 

It's an automatic 25% "inflation" on many of the goods on which we all rely. Trump taking money directly out of people's pockets and sequestering it in the government, to be used or redistributed in other ways. 

[Nationalist]

20 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Thanks for demonstrating your admiration for fascist ideology.

Nazi Leader Would Rid Germany of "jewish Vermin"

Jewish Telegraphic Agency

https://www.jta.org › archive › nazi-leader-would-rid-g...

 

Germany is urged to get rid of its “Jewish vermin”, in an election article published in the “Hamburg Beobachter,” Nazi organ, by Wilhelm Kube.

Trump calls enemies 'vermin,' echoing Hitler and Nazis

Spectrum News NY1

https://ny1.com › all-boroughs › news › 2023/11/13 › t...

 

Nov 13, 2023 — Trump labels enemies 'vermin,' echoing Hitler and Nazi propaganda, historians and Biden campaign say. By Joseph Konig Nationwide. PUBLISHED 7 ...

You never tire of being a fembot do you. Meh...

[impartialobserver]

2 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Don't we know the impact? Higher prices and less choice. 

It's an automatic 25% "inflation" on many of the goods on which we all rely. Trump taking money directly out of people's pockets and sequestering it in the government, to be used or redistributed in other ways. 

I am referring to exact impact.. exact dollar amounts, exact quantities. Those can't be known until the transactions are done and data compiled. 

[eyeball]

2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Our system has set us up for this. 

It seems it is for me. As someone who makes his living from tourism a lower dollar is not the worst news in the world.

5 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Again... Let's try for solidarity.

True, I'd hate to see Yankee's go home signs sprouting up in response to the ugly or stupid rise of Trumpism.

It's it just me or do Americans seem to leave their MAGA hats at home when they go abroad?

[Fluffypants]

3 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

I am referring to exact impact.. exact dollar amounts, exact quantities. Those can't be known until the transactions are done and data compiled. 

You do realize this is a negotiating tactic, right? Plus he had the throw Canada in there because the race hustlers will immediately blame his tariffs on his hatred of brown people if it was just Mexico.

[impartialobserver]

2 minutes ago, Fluffypants said:

You do realize this is a negotiating tactic, right? Plus he had the throw Canada in there because the race hustlers will immediately blame his tariffs on his hatred of brown people if it was just Mexico.

I do not believe that this is simply negotiation. I could be wrong but I think Trump intends to put it into action. 

[robosmith]

17 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

You never tire of being a fembot do you. Meh...

I never tire of pointing out what despicable fascist you demonstrate yourself to be.

16 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

I am referring to exact impact.. exact dollar amounts, exact quantities. Those can't be known until the transactions are done and data compiled. 

They can be estimated from historical data.

[robosmith]

13 minutes ago, Fluffypants said:

You do realize this is a negotiating tactic, right? Plus he had the throw Canada in there because the race hustlers will immediately blame his tariffs on his hatred of brown people if it was just Mexico.

AS STATED, it will go into effect DAY ONE. That is NOT "negotiating." Maybe it is LYING.

[Michael Hardner]

19 minutes ago, eyeball said:

1. It seems it is for me. As someone who makes his living from tourism a lower dollar is not the worst news in the world.

2.  It's it just me or do Americans seem to leave their MAGA hats at home when they go abroad?

1. It's good to see your capitalist side. You might want to Branch out to sell bunkers and bomb shelters. 

2. I partied with MAGAS in South Dakota.  They're fine in person, as you might expect. They asked us what our politics was like and I laughed. I told them that we were far far to the left of the Democrats. By that time they'd already got used to us so we all just moved on.

[Benz]

I can understand why some canadian right wingers support Trump. The democrats need to learn a good lesson of this defeat.

I also understand them taking the side of Trump for blaming Canada's border policies. I also agree with Trump on that one. It's among the tons of thing we can blame Trudeau for.

But this, a threat of 25% tax on canadian imports, that is a total different issue. No, Trump is not attacking Trudeau by doing this, he is giving him an unexpected help. A major one. He is literally saying out loud that Canada is no longer an ally and does not deserve his respect. He is saying that he thinks he can use any means to get what he wants. There is a line he must not cross and he did.

Negociation tactics my ***. When you are ready to go so low, it reveals who you really are. This is not an ally. Take a look a what is the import tax rates of countries like China, Saudi Arabia, Israel and many others. How you think he would behave if we would do the same? You think he would gently conclude to a "it's just a negociation tactic"? Or he would just teach us manners of how to behave with an ally?

Those still defending him on that one are worst than Trudeau. You have no dignity. Don't ever mention anything about "great again". You do not have neither the balls, nor the shoulders to make it credible in your mouth.