Who will Make Canada Great Again?

[Politics1990]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

The election is actually happening a week late, so that NDP backbenchers can get their hefty lifetime pensions. 

That's literally the only reason why we still have this hapless, criminal gov't.

oh shut up lol it's not a criminal government you act like we live in syria or  a 3rd world country.

[CdnFox]

7 minutes ago, Politics1990 said:

oh shut up lol it's not a criminal government you act like we live in syria or  a 3rd world country.

It's a criminal government. Sorry

[Politics1990]

8 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

It's a criminal government. Sorry

not at all but  keep thinking  that lol

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, Politics1990 said:

not at all but  keep thinking  that lol

Totally it is, but keep lying about it. Worked for Kamala.  ohhh...wait..,,

Edited December 12, 2024 by CdnFox

[eyeball]

8 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

So what you're really saying is he has no accomplishments

Well, pot was practically decriminalized already and by rights credit for Dentalcare should go to Singh so yeah, the best Trudeau can claim is that he did better than Trump at staying out of the way during COVID.

[CdnFox]

18 minutes ago, Politics1990 said:

not at all but  keep thinking  that lol

What's the matter little guy? Didn't like hearing the truth so you had to give me a little down arrow to make yourself feel better? Can't cancel me in real life so that was the closest you could come?

lol Well I guess that's your way of admitting your coward who can't actually make an argument  

[CdnFox]

18 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Well, pot was practically decriminalized already and by rights credit for Dentalcare should go to Singh so yeah, the best Trudeau can claim is that he did better than Trump at staying out of the way during COVID.

But he didn't stay out of the way. He gave our masks to china, then gave our money to china and delayed the receipt of vaccines.

The dental thing is kind of useless because the vast majority of people being covered by the federal program were already covered by the provincial programs and it notes that right on the federal website that they can use the federal one instead of their provincial one. The number of people actually being helped is absolutely tiny and for the money spent we could have bought real health insurance riders for the same people and giving people real coverage.

But I'm more inclined to give him points for the dope thing. It was wrong that it was illegal, it was right that he legalized it, and although it's funny that he somehow managed to lose money selling dope for the first few years it seems to have sorted itself out now. Not a smoker myself but I absolutely believe people should have the right if that's what they want to do

[eyeball]

11 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

But he didn't stay out of the way. He gave our masks to china, then gave our money to china and delayed the receipt of vaccines.

Sure mistakes were made but the vast difference between Trump's and Trudeau's casualty counts clinch it hands down. Twice the number of Canadians could have easily died if Trudeau had behaved like Trump.

But to be sure it's Canadians who deserve the biggest pat on the back for paying more attention to medical experts - notwithstanding the efforts of chuds who recommended people do otherwise.

[Michael Hardner]

15 minutes ago, eyeball said:

 

But to be sure it's Canadians who deserve the biggest pat on the back for paying more attention to medical experts - notwithstanding the efforts of chuds who recommended people do otherwise.

Hear hear 👍

Our conservative tendencies saved lives...

[WestCanMan]

47 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

What's the matter little guy? Didn't like hearing the truth so you had to give me a little down arrow to make yourself feel better? Can't cancel me in real life so that was the closest you could come?

lol Well I guess that's your way of admitting your coward who can't actually make an argument  

Honestly, tell me the difference between that guy's posts, and what you'd hear from a drunk 13-yr-old who's taking a social studies class from a communist teacher...

Would it be any more or less enlightened? Accurate? Coherent?  

[WestCanMan]

55 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Sure mistakes were made but the vast difference between Trump's and Trudeau's casualty counts clinch it hands down. Twice the number of Canadians could have easily died if Trudeau had behaved like Trump.

You're so God-damned stupid it's unbelievable. 

1. Trudeau was still saying: "Covid probably won't affect Canadians" long after Trump was already treating covid like a highly contagious and virulent pathogen, by banning non-Americans from flying into the US from China

2. People could fly in here from Wuhan until March 19th. A full 50 days after Trump put an end to that, stupid.

3. Stupid cultists like you were saying "It's wacist to ban non-Americans from flying into the US from China", then when Trudeau said "We're banning flights from India" during the Delta wave, all of you f-tards loved it.

4. Trudeau gave away all our PPE to China and got rubber dogshit in return you m0r0n. Trump paid a lot of money to get a new 3M N95 mask plant up-and-running in the US. Trudeau did no such thing

5. Trump started Operation Warp Speed to get the vax and other treatments approved and to market in record time. Meanwhile, Trudeau was too stupid to even order any vaccines. The US is our closest ally, and yet Trudeau waited so long to order vaccines that we ended up at the very back of the bus, and Trudeau ended up having to steal our first 1.9M vaccines from the 3rd-world charity pool. That stuff was supposed to go to Drs and Nurses in impoverished nations so that they could fight covid without dying, but Trudeau poached them from darky Drs to give to mostly white retirees in Canada. Makes sense that retirees are more important than frontline health care workers during a pandemic, right?

6. Trump sent hospital ships to NY and LA to treat covid. He converted the Javits Center into a covid care facility. Trudea did none of that: he just built concentration camps in Yukon and other places in the remote north. 

7. Trump never enacted any fascist programs during covid. He didn't cause protests, he never had to enact martial law, he didn't have his police beating up peaceful protesters, he didn't have his police out illegally stealing gas from peaceful protesters, he didn't freeze the bank accounts of people for just donating small sums of money to peaceful protesters... OH, and he didn't force people to take the jab who didn't need it, and he didn't force people to carry around a gesundheitspass, either.

 

FFS, our gov't was stupid beyond belief, they lied, they enacted fascist programs, stole from 3rd world countries, forced people to take a dangerous jab that theyd idn't need even after we knew it didn't really work... 

You're the biggest cultist dipshit on earth, eyeball. I can't imgine a more clueless loser than you. 

 

By EVERY SINGLE NOTABLE MEASURE, Trump was light years ahead of Trudeau on covid. EVERYTHING. He was faster, smarter, and never had to resort to any of the plethora of illegal and immoral acts that Trudeau had to do to fight covid, because Trump was just so much smarter and faster. 

 

NAME ONE THING THAT TRUDEAU DID BETTER THAN TRUMP DURING COVID, ID10T. ONE THING: _______________ 

I can promise you that there isn't a single thing that you can name, and you can't contradict me on any of the 7 things I named up top, either. 

Face it, eyeball. You're a cultist loser with a sub-50 IQ and even after 4 years you still don't understand the vast majority of what happened during covid. 

Edited December 12, 2024 by WestCanMan

[ironstone]

4 hours ago, eyeball said:

His only real accomplishment was to not govern like Donald Trump did during COVID. This prevented thousands of Canadians from becoming sick, hospitalized and dying.

I mean, I get it some people think it was just a flu that was killing old farts and a lost opportunity but...maybe next time.

That's a really short list and highly debatable at that. He did not govern like Donald Trump in that Trump never de-banked people because of their political views nor did he try to pass legislation that could put people in jail for life for posting the 'wrong' views on social media.

[WestCanMan]

1 minute ago, ironstone said:

That's a really short list and highly debatable at that. He did not govern like Donald Trump in that Trump never de-banked people because of their political views nor did he try to pass legislation that could put people in jail for life for posting the 'wrong' views on social media.

Eyeball's a clueless, lying, cultist loser. Everyone here gets dumber reading his infantile crap. 

[herbie]

Amazing how all the traitors that backed an actual criminal for US President bleat endlessly how Trudeau is the real criminal. Such a blatant display of ignorance.

All of whom clamor for a 'leader' who will tell these people what they can't do and those people how they must act and them that they're not entitled to what others have because that is what leaders do and that will make them happy.
All the while loudly denying that leader would be a dictator and they would be fascists just because all the dictionaries and encyclopedia say so.

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, ironstone said:

He did not govern like Donald Trump in that Trump never de-banked people because of their political views nor did he try to pass legislation that could put people in jail for life for posting the 'wrong' views on social media.

More and more as time goes by conservatives edge ever closer, without coming right out and saying it, that the preservation of liberty made the worst COVID rates of sickness, hospitalization and death on the planet worth the sacrifice and we all should have been so lucky.

[Moonlight Graham]

4 hours ago, eyeball said:

Sure mistakes were made but the vast difference between Trump's and Trudeau's casualty counts clinch it hands down. Twice the number of Canadians could have easily died if Trudeau had behaved like Trump.

But to be sure it's Canadians who deserve the biggest pat on the back for paying more attention to medical experts - notwithstanding the efforts of chuds who recommended people do otherwise.

I wouldnt blame or give credit to Trump or Trudeau for a good deal of the response to covid.  A lot of it, like lockdowns, are out of their jurisdiction.

Trump acted faster initially though, because Canada didn't want to ban travelers from certain countries because they were too worried about offending someone's feelings and being labeled racist by the wingnuts among the progressives.  Fear of offending people is one of the primary problems with progressive thinking.  Don't worry, there's lots of issues within conservative thought too, including with COVID responses.

Lock downs in many cases were the right thing to do, but that's more on the provinces/states and municipalities.   Americans themselves weren't very smart about it, every single one of my American friends has had COVID.  None died, 1 got sick enough to need hospital care, and all could have spread it to the more vulnerable.

People questioning things whenever the government limits our fundamental rights is a good thing though, better than always shutting up and just following orders.

[NAME REMOVED]

7 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Do you have some sort of aversion to MORE prosperity?

You just posted that Canada could become one of the most prosperous, and successful nations in the World, when we already have been for the past 100 years.

[eyeball]

30 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

I wouldnt blame or give credit to Trump or Trudeau for a good deal of the response to covid

Like I said Canadians deserve the biggest pat on the back for the far better outcome in terms of casualties.

But why is it so difficult to acknowledge how loudly the difference between US and Canadian death rates speaks to who dealt with it better?  Personally I think it's also evidence that a lot more COVID was spread by word of Trump's mouth than Trudeau's...hands down...it's not even close.

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

Amazing how all the traitors that backed an actual criminal for US President bleat endlessly how Trudeau is the real criminal. Such a blatant display of ignorance.

Your ignorance and willingness to be a fascist lackey is duly noted. 

FYI Trump never committed fraud, dummy - he was just convicted in a kangaroo court for taking out a loan that he paid back years ago. 

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All of whom clamor for a 'leader' who will tell these people what they can't do and those people how they must act and them that they're not entitled to what others have because that is what leaders do and that will make them happy.

Yes, we were clamouring for a leader because we didn't want WWIII to break out. 

FYI the world has been getting deeper and deeper into war the whole time Biden was presuhhdent. Even in October we were still seeing ascalations in both of the major wars that sprung up under Biden:

1. Iran started launching ballistic missiles into Israel and Israel did a massive round of airstrikes inside of Iranian sovereign territory
2. North Korean soldiers started fighting for Russia against Ukraine. Ukraine started shooting long-range American missiles and hitting targets inside of Russia. Russia started shooting medium range ballistic missiles right into Kiev itself. 

That's a lot of escalation in just one month for a couple of wars that were already large. 

So yeah, AMERICA DESPERATELY NEEDED LEADERSHIP, DUMMY, and merely rearranging the deck chairs wasn't going to cut it.

Then there's the matter of the ridiculously porous border, the awful economy, the fascism, etc. 

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, eyeball said:

Sure mistakes were made but the vast difference between Trump's and Trudeau's casualty counts clinch it hands down. Twice the number of Canadians could have easily died if Trudeau had behaved like Trump.

 

Nonsense. The high casualty count came from a couple of very specific areas at the very beginning of the pandemic and would be the responsibility of those specific states. Specifically New York. If you take out there insane casualty rate early in the pandemic due to the fact that people were not advised to avoid mass public transportation then the actual death rate was almost exactly comparable to Canada or any other country. That definitely cannot be attributed to trump. So trump record was actually pretty good for the stuff he was responsible for. Also we wouldn't have had the vaccines when we did without project light speed which he was responsible for. He also set up the distribution network for vaccines which was incredibly successful. Biden didn't change a thing when he got it yet attempted to take credit for it.

You can dock him points for his stupid comments about how they were going to develop bleach as a injectable cure all for it   And a few other comments, but on the whole his covid response was actually top of the line. Just like Canada, the states were individually responsible for much of the details and individual states had different results based on that.

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But to be sure it's Canadians who deserve the biggest pat on the back for paying more attention to medical experts - notwithstanding the efforts of chuds who recommended people do otherwise.

Interestingly enough that turned out not to be true. Analysis after the fact is shown that most of the effortsactions taken by many of the provinces did little to help. Population density seem to be one of the biggest factors, and that does make sense.

But if you do believe that the vaccines helped then without a doubt Trudeau's response was far worse than the united states. Our seat of vaccines was delayed for months because Trudeau put his money on a Chinese company owned by a Montreal gentleman and we never got a single dose from it

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Eyeball's a clueless, lying, cultist loser. Everyone here gets dumber reading his infantile crap. 

Everyone gets sicker and deader reading yours.

[WestCanMan]

2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Nonsense. The high casualty count came from a couple of very specific areas at the very beginning of the pandemic and would be the responsibility of those specific states. Specifically New York. If you take out there insane casualty rate early in the pandemic due to the fact that people were not advised to avoid mass public transportation then the actual death rate was almost exactly comparable to Canada or any other country.

You're talking over his head. He doesn't understand the difference between the way covid would spread in one day among:

• 4M riders on a single subway system
• or
• across the vast expanse of all of Saskatchewan and Manitoba 

He honestly thinks it's the same thing. 

[eyeball]

3 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

But if you do believe that the vaccines helped...

I certainly do, but what I also believe is that COVID found it far easier to infect far greater numbers of Americans because Trump couldn't keep his stupid mouth shut. Trudeau could and it shows.  As I've also pointed out, COVID hit America when it was lit up with enough conspiracy gas to fuel a new star.

It certainly helped that Canadians were still a little more deferential to the advice of health authorities. I doubt that'll be the case next time unfortunately, especially if it's anytime soon.

[Nationalist]

57 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

You just posted that Canada could become one of the most prosperous, and successful nations in the World, when we already have been for the past 100 years.

And? Again...do you have something against prosperity? Or do you prefer inflation?

[ironstone]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

More and more as time goes by conservatives edge ever closer, without coming right out and saying it, that the preservation of liberty made the worst COVID rates of sickness, hospitalization and death on the planet worth the sacrifice and we all should have been so lucky.

You keep referring back to Covid for some reason. It was a challenge that was new and unprecedented in modern times. There were many accounts of politicians not being held to the same standards as the general public. Trump relied on the advice of Anthony Fauci who is almost a God to progressives. People were censored for even suggesting that the virus originated from a lab in Wuhan.