Who will Make Canada Great Again?

[I am Groot]

On 11/25/2024 at 8:34 PM, CdnFox said:

There used to be but there really isn't anymore

Get out of the cities full of immigrants and you'll find it.

On 11/25/2024 at 8:34 PM, CdnFox said:

Truckers thrown out of work by forced drug policies and medical treatments are declared enemies of the state,

Wish you guys would give it up on the antivax stuff.

On 11/25/2024 at 11:08 PM, athos said:

Well said. A pseudo "nation" without cultural and national identity, created on the genocide of the indigenous people. 

There seems to be an awful lot of those indigenous people we supposedly genocided. They're especially prevalent in the statistics on homicide. 

[I am Groot]

On 11/26/2024 at 2:51 AM, DUI_Offender said:

Their justice system sucks.

The USA has 4% of the World population and 25% of the World inmate population, Yet, America has the worst crime rate in the developed World, so obviously their justice system has failed them.

Their crime rate is due to their inability to deal with the culture and values of their inner cities. And that's primarily the culture and values of black people.

On 11/26/2024 at 2:51 AM, DUI_Offender said:

Crime in Canada is not even remotely close to crime in the USA.

In some ways it's actually worse lately.

[I am Groot]

On 11/26/2024 at 12:52 PM, DUI_Offender said:

However, Canada's crime rate dropped for 23 straight years (1991-2014), while the Indigenous and Black population of Canada rose dramatically,

The crime rate in the US also dropped dramatically during this period. Some people ascribe this in part to the removal of lead from paints and gasoline. However, since 2015 crime rates in Canada have been rising faster than in the US.

 

On 11/26/2024 at 12:52 PM, DUI_Offender said:

so that kind of raises questions about your theory of race and crime. 

It's not race, it's culture. But the effect is highly... visible.

https://www.tps.ca/organizational-chart/specialized-operations-command/detective-operations/investigative-services/homicide/most-wanted/

 

On 11/26/2024 at 3:56 PM, Politics1990 said:

• because he is best in  a attack dog  role  as annoying as he was it's what he does best. he just comes across as 2 unlikable to be the main man. he is just lucky trudeau is probably the least popuar prime minister since  mulroneys  2 terms . he waited his chance  he would never win a 50/50 race

I don't care if the PM is 'likable'. I care if he's competent. And time will tell if Poilievre turns out to be competent or not. Time has already told us all we need to know about Trudeau and Singh.

[I am Groot]

On 12/12/2024 at 10:32 AM, DUI_Offender said:

We are one of most prosperous and successful nations on the planet.

Sliding rapidly back into the pack.

Our climate change policies alone are robbing us of wealth while the developing world builds coal plants to supply cheap energy to the factories relocating from the West.

[WestCanMan]

8 hours ago, eyeball said:

Yeah, I underestimated.

During the pandemic nearly 1.3 million Americans died vs 60 thousand Canadians. 3300 Americans or so per million vs 1350 per million Canadians. Around 2.4 times a different rate IOW.

To arrive at your claim that the insane death rates during the first three months of the pandemic accounts for this rather huge difference you'd need to subtract some 600 thousand deaths from 1.3 million.

How on Earth does that scan if, as you said, there were only 203 thousand cases?

Your problem is that, even after all of this time, there are still basic principles of epidemiology that are still way beyond your capacity to understand, such as how viruses travel from H2H, how quickly they spread indoors vs outdoors, where they linger and where they don't, how transmissible they are at the various stages of infection, etc. Your mind is still just a blank slate for the MSM to mould like putty. Whatever CNN and CBC say just goes right in there, unchallenged, regardless of how silly it is, and it sticks forever.

That's why it made perfect sense to you that people could fly in from Wuhan, walk through crowded airports, ride the skytrain, and go to buffet restaurants on March 16th and then it also made sense to ban Canadians from walking outside in public parks just a week later on March 23rd. To anyone who knows how germs are spread, that was epidemiological lunacy, but to you, it was just another example of how Trudeau handled covid better than Trump did, because that's what CBC told you.

FYI at the beginning of the pandemic, when covid was at its strongest (another concept that you will never understand), the NYC subway spread it to millions of people in just a few days. FYI that's what happens when you put 4.5M people into a confined space like a subway station.

Trust me, an airborne virus like covid can spread very quickly to Queens, Brooklyn, the Bronx, Manhattan, and Staten Island because of the 4.3M subway riders who converge indoors and then head off to confined office spaces with millions of other people, compared to travelling all across the vast expanse of Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba, where we have the same number of people. FYI it just spreads quicker, by orders of magnitude, to the 8M people of NYC than it does to the 8M people of our prairie provinces. And the 3M people who travel to and from NYC each day also spread it to the places that they're from. It takes a really long time for 3M people to visit Cando Saskatechewan and then spread it to Innisfail Alberta. 

Just think about that game 7 degrees of Kevin Bacon, and think about how many links people in Queens and Brooklyn have to each other in one weekday, vs people in Flin Flon and Mayerthorpe in an entire month. 

For normal people, that's innately understood, but it's something that you're unable to learn. This is all magic to you, and you need the help of the CBC to decode it. If they tell you that covid should spread across the prairies just as fast as it does across NYC, you feel like you "understand that", but the reality is that what they said was BS, but you are unable to unlearn it, no matter what anyone else tells you.

Another thing you don't understand is how organisms which reproduce asexually, like viruses, tend to get weaker and weaker as time passes, in a process described by Muller's Ratchet. Epidemiologists expected subsequent strains of covid to get weaker and weaker. It didn't come as a surprise to them. They knew that people who got covid a year later would be experiencing a milder strain. You still don't believe it. Whatever.

[WestCanMan]

26 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

Sliding rapidly back into the pack.

Our climate change policies alone are robbing us of wealth while the developing world builds coal plants to supply cheap energy to the factories relocating from the West.

"I thought that a really good way for a country to develop wealth and fight climate change would be to stop producing their own domestic energy, like oil, and import their oil from across the world, in places like Saudi Arabia that have better labour laws. Then we could also tax our people on the oil that they buy, and give that money to other countries." - Trudeau

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Covid was like a gun aimed at Americans.

Plus a good number of Canadians, and especially those who are dazzled by American right-wing ideology and stupefied by a couple of decades of conspiracy gas. Starting with 9/11 truther nonsense in your case.

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Anyone who was paying attention knows that almost everyone who died of covid had, on average, more than 1 serious underlying health condition, and was elderly.

Sure and anyone who's been paying attention will recall the bandwidth you've expended telling us the numbers of deaths from COVID were vastly overblown because it was actually the co-morbidities killing them.

If a terminal cancer victim or diabetic with COVID died you would argue authorities counted it as a COVID death.  Now you're doing the same thing to pump this epicenter/density/sitting duck/ shtick. 

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

But not all underlying health conditions were equal against covid. Obesity, and the host of problems that come along with it, was a massive driver of covid deaths.

Sure until it suits you to argue this the other way around that COVID was the driver of co-morbidity deaths - then it's just a flu that's killing old farts...almost like an opportunity.

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Less than 2% of Canadians have a BMI of 40 or more. In the US it's about 8%. 4x as high. 

Ah, back to density are we?  Seems there must have been way way way more fat people per square mile in the epicenter zone than anywhere else.

But you still need to explain how you get nearly half of America's total COVID death toll from only a couple of hundred thousand cases, in 3 months don't forget.

[CdnFox]

10 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

You are all talk and no substance

I quoted scientific research that have been collected after plenty of time to collect data. You posted opinion pieces from midway through covid when almost no data was available

But as usual when you're proven wrong you throw a hissy fit and demand that it's everyone else's fault that you can't figure out how science works.

And the left is the side that we're supposed to trust for our "covid facts" :?

10 hours ago, eyeball said:

Yeah, I underestimated

The fact that you're wrong once is no surprise, what may shock you is you were wrong twice in your original comments.

So what we know is you don't know what you're talking about. But we knew that before you started talking.

And still not a drop of proof to back your claims up. What a shocker

[WestCanMan]

Just now, eyeball said:

Plus a good number of Canadians, and

No, to a far lower number of Canadians, per capita. Their rate fo morbid obesity is 4x higher than ours.

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especially those who are dazzled by American right-wing ideology and stupefied by a couple of decades of conspiracy gas. Starting with 9/11 truther nonsense in your case.

Sorry, but the Hunter laptop and BSL4 lab "stories" weren't disinformation. The line of BS that you were fed about them was conspiracy gas, but you're not even mad that Trudeau, the CBC and CNN all lied to you and made you look stupid.

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Sure and anyone who's been paying attention will recall the bandwidth you've expended telling us the numbers of deaths from COVID were vastly overblown because it was actually the co-morbidities killing them.

If a terminal cancer victim or diabetic with COVID died you would argue authorities counted it as a COVID death.  Now you're doing the same thing to pump this epicenter/density/sitting duck/ shtick. 

Wrong again, dummy. 

People who were walking on the edge of their graves got a nudge from covid, that's it. Nothing more, nothing less. 

The chances of anyone dying from outside of that category was less than 1 per million. 

People who were playing tackle football 10 miles away from the cemetery weren't getting nudged into the grave, but you thought that they were. CBC told you that there was a benefit to forcing them to vax and you believed them. 

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Ah, back to density are we?  Seems there must have been way way way more fat people per square mile in the epicenter zone than anywhere else.

But you still need to explain how you get nearly half of America's total COVID death toll from only a couple of hundred thousand cases, in 3 months don't forget.

That's just another example of how stupid you are. FYI the incidence of morbid obesity has nothing to do with pop density. 

People in Topeka Kansas can have higher rates of obesity than people in NYC. Maybe they do. I don't know, and it doesn't matter.

The fact is that, across the board, regardless of what kind of population centres people live in, Americans are way fatter than Canadians. 8% of them have a BMI of 40 or over. 2% in Canada. A 40 BMI IS A MASSIVE COVID HEALTH RISK. Not, "40 BMI plus living in NYC", just 40 BMI, period. 

By the end of 2022 everyone was exposed to covid, no matter where in NA they lived. And the 40+ BMIers were hit hard by it. Period. Over 40BMI and over 75 yrs old, that's really bad. Add diabetes, the chances of living were even smaller. Add COPD and it becomes a miracle to survive. But that's true for the flu as well, or running down 2 flights of stairs to avoid a fire. All of those things = high chance of death. 

[WestCanMan]

1 minute ago, CdnFox said:

I quoted scientific research that have been collected after plenty of time to collect data. You posted opinion pieces from midway through covid when almost no data was available

And a lot of the "data" that was "available" came from Pfizer's own clinical trials. No joke. "Yeah, our stuff works great, and it's only $100/vial. You need it!"

The MSM subjected us to that as if it was gospel truth, even after real-world stats were telling us otherwise. 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, I am Groot said:

Sometimes we shouldn't be respecting people due to their beliefs. I don't respect Palestinian protesters for example. I don't respect any Muslim country. And our 'legendary' integration of newcomers only worked when those newcomers were Europeans. It hasn't worked for some time now, a time that predates Trudeau.

Well respect doesn't necessarily mean that you Are okay with their beliefs. I'm more referring to the fact that you should respect their right to have those beliefs, even if you find them extremely distasteful or mentally retarded.

Of course respect for someone else's right to believe does not extend to tolerance for them acting on those beliefs in a way that is socially unacceptable in our country. Go ahead and be Muslim if you like. But if you start smashing up buildings and stuff because Israel is being mean to Palestine in your opinion then we have a problem

To be honest our integration of other races besides European did go very well, back when we were under Harper's old system of relatively small influxes, mentor programs only and bountiful resources to integrate them in the society and not force them to cluster into little groups because they had no resources.

It's not working now because all of those things are not true. We bring people in, they get almost no assistance, there's no one to help them, they tend to huddle into groups within cities because they feel it's necessary for protection and support, they become isolated and bitter and resentful within the country and then you have problems like we've seen in France and Germany Etc.

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, I am Groot said:

 

Wish you guys would give it up on the antivax stuff.

Hey, I was double vaxed and boosted  It was a choice I made because I was in an at-risk group. I'm not anti-vaccine.

But I believe very strongly in the right for people to make that choice unencumbered by threat from the government or their neighbors. And at a time when the government should have been bringing people together they tore people apart

[eyeball]

7 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

And still not a drop of proof to back your claims up. What a shocker

Pointing out how retarded your claims are provides more than enough evidence.

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12 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I quoted scientific research that have been collected after plenty of time to collect data. You posted opinion pieces from midway through covid when almost no data was available

But as usual when you're proven wrong you throw a hissy fit and demand that it's everyone else's fault that you can't figure out how science works.

And the left is the side that we're supposed to trust for our "covid facts" :?

The fact that you're wrong once is no surprise, what may shock you is you were wrong twice in your original comments.

So what we know is you don't know what you're talking about. But we knew that before you started talking.

And still not a drop of proof to back your claims up. What a shocker

Since you still fail to comprehend basic science, and it is nearly Christmas, I have a book for you. If you provide me your address, I can ship it to you for the holiday season.

If this is too advanced for you, I can make other arrangements. 

[CdnFox]

28 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Pointing out how retarded your claims are provides more than enough evidence.

If you're a Deranged lefty who doesn't care about the truth and supports Palestinian terrorists maybe

But... nobody like that around here is there? Eyeball? is there?

[herbie]

Oooh you're a leftist. What an insult....
Hang your head in shame because we have none ourselves.

 - the usual response of the Illiterati.

[ironstone]

18 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

Would I would like to lead Canada:

 

Adam van Koeverden

 

 

Koeverden competed for Team Canada in the 2004, 2008, and 2012 Olympics, winning a Gold Medal in the 500 metre kayak final. He was chosen to carry the Canadian flag at the closing ceremonies in Greece. He is the most successful Olympic Kayaker in Canadian history. 

My dream was to make the Olympics in Kayaking myself, but I had a career ending back injury when I was young, and only made it to the National Junior Development Team. 

Koeverden has been a Member of Parliament for 5 years. he is 42, and has what it takes to lead this nation.

How come the federal Liberals have never had a female leader? The NDP and Conservatives have although they deservedly never gained any traction with the voters.

[CdnFox]

21 minutes ago, herbie said:

Oooh you're a leftist. What an insult....

These days, it really is  

It's like saying  "Ooooh you're a nazi, what an insult..."    Yeah.  That would be an insult. 

And in fairness I did say  not jut a leftie but a deranged one who doesn't care about the truth specifically. But then I guess there was no point in repeating myself like that.

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Pointing out how retarded your claims are provides more than enough evidence.

Sounds a lot like: "Pfizer told us the jabs work, and we don't care about real-world stats, so neither should you. These aren't the drones you're looking for."

Dude, you keep trying to use CBC's BS opinions to refute real-world data, and it's mid-boggling. You have Stockholm syndrome, eyeball.

 

The indisputable facts are that:

1. we jabbed 86% of our population in 2021
2. Covid deaths went up by nearly 40% in 2022 - AFTER JABBING - compared to 2021, and it was up 28% from 2020
3. hospitalizations more than tripled in 2022 compared to the busiest point of 2020 or 2021
4. almost everyone who died of covid in 2022 had 2 or more jabs, approximately 90%
5. more double-jabbed people died of covid in 2022 than the total number of people who died of covid in either previous year. That is "only 2x-4x jabbed in 2022"  vs "everyone who died of covid in 2020 or 2021". The multi-vaxed in 2022 were the hardest-hit cohort of all in Canada, ever. 

Get your head around this eyeball: more double-jabbed people died of covid in 2022 than the total number of people who died of covid in either previous year.

 

Over 16,000 double-jabbed Canadians died 'of covid' in 2022.

Less than 16,000 people died of covid in 2020. Ditto for 2021.

The double-jabbed were really unlucky when it came to dying from covid. And just remember, all of those people survived 2020 and 2021. 

[eyeball]

8 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

And in fairness I did say not jut a leftie but a deranged one who doesn't care about the truth specifically.

Sure kid, everyone knows you only said this because you claimed something so dumb your only way out is to lie about it  

 

[Dougie93]

On 11/26/2024 at 1:29 PM, paradox34 said:

No one. Canadians are generally politically apathetic. The school system encourages this along with heavy doses of socialist dogma. The country has been flooded with immigrants which has basically destroyed any hope of a uniquely "Canadian identity". Canada has become exactly what the UN wanted.

there never was such a thing as an uniquely Canadian identity

"Canadian" started off as the Quebecois of Nouvelle France

then the Anglo-American Loyalists took that as their identity in the War of 1812

but now that both the British & French identities have become largely meaningless, even in Britain & France

the once Loyalist Canadians have simply reverted to being Americans by default

Manifest Destiny

Edited December 13, 2024 by Dougie93

[eyeball]

15 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

....we don't care about real-world stats....

Seriously, you're so desperate to show Trudeau killed more people than Trump you don't care how ludicrous it is to claim 200 thousand cases magically produced half a million deaths?

[CdnFox]

18 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Sure kid, everyone knows you only said this because you claimed something so dumb your only way out is to lie about it  

 

Sure kid, everyone knows I posted evidence and you posted nothing. I'm pretty sure everyone else will catch your mistake  

And Most of the people on this board have already trying to get at one time or another about what a liar you are, Which isn't surprising considering you give so many examples 

 

[Dougie93]

15 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Seriously, you're so desperate to show Trudeau

nothing is more desperate than the pathetic attempts to defend Trudeau

when he is the most hated man in Canadian history

Trudeau has had carte blanche, all institutions and governments bending to his will for a decade

resulting in Canada being destroyed and replaced by a Post National State dystopia

nothing you can say will prevent the lunatic Woke Progressive left from wearing this, for generations to come

Edited December 13, 2024 by Dougie93

[eyeball]

10 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

everyone knows I posted evidence

That half of all America's deaths occurred in the 1st three months in New York? If you're saying you posted evidence of that you're lying.