The conflict with India

[Gaétan]

The unjust have different rules for themselves than for others. When the president of the United States or Israel commits assassinations of opponents he rejoices, when they are not his friends he acts differently. I do not believe that the guy that India killed was a guy who was only practicing his religion and collecting donations for the well-being of his community while he lets the police do it and shuts his mouth, he has no lessons to give to others. The Indian president acted like his friends, Justin Trudeau is no better than him, he waited until he had 18,000 dead in Gaza so that he considered that it was enough. He has no business intervening publicly in the case of India and the police should not ask him what to do. If he criticized the murders of his friends, he could criticize the murders of India, but because he doesn't, he has no credibility

[ExFlyer]

9 hours ago, Gaétan said:

The unjust have different rules for themselves than for others. When the president of the United States or Israel commits assassinations of opponents he rejoices, when they are not his friends he acts differently. I do not believe that the guy that India killed was a guy who was only practicing his religion and collecting donations for the well-being of his community while he lets the police do it and shuts his mouth, he has no lessons to give to others. The Indian president acted like his friends, Justin Trudeau is no better than him, he waited until he had 18,000 dead in Gaza so that he considered that it was enough. He has no business intervening publicly in the case of India and the police should not ask him what to do. If he criticized the murders of his friends, he could criticize the murders of India, but because he doesn't, he has no credibility

Huh?

One of the most disjointed posts of the year.

Seems you are good at nonsensical posts LOL

[myata]

Look, to be seen seriously you have to understand the notions like objectivity and facts. Otherwise you wouldn't be any better than the lying cult - they make their "facts" and you, yours. On a whim.

There's a difference between trying to eliminate a political opponent, and someone who tried, and repeatedly, to kill you. Do you understand it? The latter is called "self-defense", while the former, criminal.

Having a political cause is not a crime. Quebec had two or three? independence referendums, that was not a valid cause to persecute or eliminate political leaders of PQ. Do you understand such obvious matters? or just couldn't care, like the lying cult on the opposite side?

[Gaétan]

5 hours ago, myata said:

There's a difference between trying to eliminate a political opponent, and someone who tried, and repeatedly, to kill you. Do you understand it? The latter is called "self-defense", while the former, criminal.

Off course but i don't buy that he was just a political opponent and i am not going to waste my time denigrating government, Poilievre ot the cia's agents. I don't support that crime but it was just as self defence as Biden assassinations.

[QuebecOverCanada]

39 minutes ago, Gaétan said:

Off course but i don't buy that he was just a political opponent and i am not going to waste my time denigrating government, Poilievre ot the cia's agents. I don't support that crime but it was just as self defence as Biden assassinations.

There are many layers here.

What you meant by Biden assassinations, if you have a sane mind, would be that you condemn expeditary assassinations made by the US Army abroad its own territories.

You make a fair point.

The thing is that in Canada, we will not tolerate these kinds of inteferences on our territory. We have the means to protect our sovereignty, and we shouldn't have governments from abroad killing Canadians on our soil, based on their wants.

Are India's feelings more important than our own safety? Let me remind you that if we allow India to kill Canadians here, then we invite all nations of the world to kill people here, based on their mood.

We need to show strength and make a tantrum to make sure other countries understand that you should not kill Canadians in Canada with the help of their governments.

Also, to make it worse, India has not cooperated in investigations surrounding its interferences. India has not apologized and even gave us sanctions for the mere fact that we were condemning their behavior. India acts like a bully, a dominator that wants revenge for its colonial past; let's not forget. They are on a quest for building an empire in South Asia. India is not an ally of Canada - or Canada's allies even -, we merely trade with them comparatively to other countries that size and they are just partners in the region because they hate China.

We should not stand down to India, and we probably should shut commercial ties and immigration with them until they realize that their country is just a sewage next to call centers.

[Gaétan]

4 hours ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

There are many layers here.

What you meant by Biden assassinations, if you have a sane mind, would be that you condemn expeditary assassinations made by the US Army abroad its own territories.

You make a fair point.

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The thing is that in Canada, we will not tolerate these kinds of inteferences on our territory. We have the means to protect our sovereignty, and we shouldn't have governments from abroad killing Canadians on our soil, based on their wants.

Agree

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Are India's feelings more important than our own safety? Let me remind you that if we allow India to kill Canadians here, then we invite all nations of the world to kill people here, based on their mood.

Murder in not allowed in Canada and i agree but it is not a politic problem but a police problem and Trudeau should shut his mouth rather than speak up, canadians make business with India and the interference by the prime minister which is useless will render those activities more difficult and problematic because he made comments. He doesn't have any lesson to give to India, his best friends commit murder as well and he shipped arms to Israël who is  committing a genocide. You cannot teach lesson to criminals if you are a criminal yourself.

Edited October 16, 2024 by Gaétan

[CdnFox]

13 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Huh?

One of the most disjointed posts of the year.

Seems you are good at nonsensical posts LOL

And it was up against some pretty stiff competition too.

[cougar]

What I want to see in this conflict with India is India stopping the flow of Indian residents to Canada and then Canada retaliating by sending back the last 1,000,000 Indians who came under the various citizenship and immigration programs.

[Gaétan]

8 minutes ago, cougar said:

What I want to see in this conflict with India is India stopping the flow of Indian residents to Canada and then Canada retaliating by sending back the last 1,000,000 Indians who came under the various citizenship and immigration programs.

To have eternal life, you must treat your neighbor as yourself or repent of your faults, and since you have not treated your neighbor as yourself, you have the second option left and I advise you to take advantage of it.

[cougar]

1 hour ago, Gaétan said:

To have eternal life, you must treat your neighbor as yourself or repent of your faults, and since you have not treated your neighbor as yourself, you have the second option left and I advise you to take advantage of it.

Another example of your convoluted BS posts.

You suggest I commit suicide?

I wish you eternal life in a Indian slum.

Edited October 16, 2024 by cougar

[Goddess]

Canada takes in other countries' terrorists, gives them citizenship and protects them, and then wonders why we have bad relations with other countries.

 

 

[QuebecOverCanada]

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Murder in not allowed in Canada and i agree but it is not a politic problem but a police problem and Trudeau should shut his mouth rather than speak up, canadians make business with India and the interference by the prime minister which is useless will render those activities more difficult and problematic because he made comments. 

@Gaétan

It is a political problem... the assassinations on our soil were politically motivated.

Also, why should we partner up economically more with another country that seems hostile to us? We did it with China in the past and it did bite us in the end, we may go to war with China over Taiwan in a decade. China is also helping Russia in Ukraine covertly and overtly.

India is the new China, it does the mistake of thinking itself of a great nation that can do whatever it wants because its population is very large, but it is a backward country. Its GDP per capita is only $2K a year, while in Canada it is $46K a year. They will stay poor if they keep going that direction of trying to bully its economic partners.

[QuebecOverCanada]

3 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Canada takes in other countries' terrorists, gives them citizenship and protects them, and then wonders why we have bad relations with other countries.

 

I still wonder what was in the mind of those who let that person come to Canada, and even grant him citizenship.

He was known as problematic before entering our soil, but somehow the authorities decided it was a good idea to let him come. 

Our immigration system is too leniant, to say the least.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

I still wonder what was in the mind of those who let that person come to Canada, and even grant him citizenship.

He was known as problematic before entering our soil, but somehow the authorities decided it was a good idea to let him come. 

Our immigration system is too leniant, to say the least.

I think there's a lot more political appetite right now for clamping down on immigration in general, historically it's been political death to suggest we should eat people out. Hopefully it will be a major part of the new governments i'll see you too reform and tighten immigration

[Gaétan]

2 hours ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

@Gaétan

It is a political problem... the assassinations on our soil were politically motivated.

Also, why should we partner up economically more with another country that seems hostile to us? We did it with China in the past and it did bite us in the end, we may go to war with China over Taiwan in a decade. China is also helping Russia in Ukraine covertly and overtly.

India is the new China, it does the mistake of thinking itself of a great nation that can do whatever it wants because its population is very large, but it is a backward country. Its GDP per capita is only $2K a year, while in Canada it is $46K a year. They will stay poor if they keep going that direction of trying to bully its economic partners.

The criminal activities of agents of other counties within Canada concern the police and secret services not politicians. If there are individuals committing crimes in Canada the police should act with the laws they have to their dispositions and not ask to the prime minister what to do. La cia pays probably people in every institutions in Canada and the police should pick up that money.

[QuebecOverCanada]

4 hours ago, Gaétan said:

The criminal activities of agents of other counties within Canada concern the police and secret services not politicians. If there are individuals committing crimes in Canada the police should act with the laws they have to their dispositions and not ask to the prime minister what to do. La cia pays probably people in every institutions in Canada and the police should pick up that money.

I disagree. it is a matter of sovereignty for our citizens and our land.

We can not allow a foreign state to kill our citizens on our soil, whatever the justification may be. If you allow this to happen, you open the door for pure chaos. Every other country will do the same. Saudi Arabia will decide to kill whoever it wants here. Same with China, Russia... etc.

Canada should be a safehaven for Canadians, period.

Also, it is not like Canada wasn't in a position of strenght compared to India. India can not pretend to be a super power yet, it is far from it, with lots of separatist movements and issues with its economy. We have to show resolve to them now as they're currently a very poor and weak country, because if we don't, when they're going to be rich, it's going to be worse. 

[Gaétan]

4 hours ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

I disagree. it is a matter of sovereignty for our citizens and our land.

We can not allow a foreign state to kill our citizens on our soil, whatever the justification may be. If you allow this to happen, you open the door for pure chaos. Every other country will do the same. Saudi Arabia will decide to kill whoever it wants here. Same with China, Russia... etc.

Canada should be a safehaven for Canadians, period.

Also, it is not like Canada wasn't in a position of strenght compared to India. India can not pretend to be a super power yet, it is far from it, with lots of separatist movements and issues with its economy. We have to show resolve to them now as they're currently a very poor and weak country, because if we don't, when they're going to be rich, it's going to be worse. 

I am not interested to talk with robots of the government 

[herbie]

Murdering a Canadian on Canadian soil, blaclailing Canadian businesses on Canadian soil and shooting up the streets, terrorism, should be overlooked?
 

[cougar]

14 hours ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

 

1. we may go to war with China over Taiwan in a decade. China is also helping Russia in Ukraine covertly and overtly.

2. India's GDP per capita is only $2K a year, while in Canada it is $46K a year.

1. We have no business in Taiwan. Geographically , it is part of China and most likely historically it was part of China too before the Brits started messing around.    Likewise we have no business in Ukraine , which has been part of Russia, also historically.

2. the $2K a year an Indian makes do not compare to $2K in Canada.  Obviously they can survive on $2K and continue to reproduce, while we have trouble living on $46K/year , do not have kids and the country is now dependent on Indian imported new residents.

Not to fight with you over anything, but there is a different side to these stories.

[Michael Hardner]

8 hours ago, herbie said:

Murdering a Canadian on Canadian soil, blaclailing Canadian businesses on Canadian soil and shooting up the streets, terrorism, should be overlooked?
 

Even Poilievre doesn't think so.

[QuebecOverCanada]

10 hours ago, cougar said:

1. We have no business in Taiwan. Geographically , it is part of China and most likely historically it was part of China too before the Brits started messing around.    Likewise we have no business in Ukraine , which has been part of Russia, also historically.

2. the $2K a year an Indian makes do not compare to $2K in Canada.  Obviously they can survive on $2K and continue to reproduce, while we have trouble living on $46K/year , do not have kids and the country is now dependent on Indian imported new residents.

Not to fight with you over anything, but there is a different side to these stories.

1. It doesn't matter with the point I was giving; by cooperating economically with China, it became more powerful, and is now a bigger adversary because of it. We shouldn't have moved all our industry to this country. The same thing should be said about India now; we should not engage in more trade with India as we see they are a potential China 2.0.

2. That\s great, but even Haiti has a 2.79 fertility rate. It remains incredibly unstable, unhygienic and miserable.

[cougar]

3 hours ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

1. It doesn't matter with the point I was giving; by cooperating economically with China, it became more powerful, and is now a bigger adversary because of it. We shouldn't have moved all our industry to this country. The same thing should be said about India now; we should not engage in more trade with India as we see they are a potential China 2.0.

2. That\s great, but even Haiti has a 2.79 fertility rate. It remains incredibly unstable, unhygienic and miserable.

I agree with both your points; just don't like the mention of us fighting over Taiwan or sending troops to Ukraine.  It will be wrong on so many levels and will make us look more like our neighbor to the south.

Did any of the parties have a platform of bringing all outsourced manufacturing jobs to Canada; like "Canada first"?    Their idea still is to just extract resources till the planet collapses.  

Edited October 17, 2024 by cougar

[CrazyCanuck89]

On 10/14/2024 at 11:02 PM, Gaétan said:

The unjust have different rules for themselves than for others. When the president of the United States or Israel commits assassinations of opponents he rejoices, when they are not his friends he acts differently. I do not believe that the guy that India killed was a guy who was only practicing his religion and collecting donations for the well-being of his community while he lets the police do it and shuts his mouth, he has no lessons to give to others. The Indian president acted like his friends, Justin Trudeau is no better than him, he waited until he had 18,000 dead in Gaza so that he considered that it was enough. He has no business intervening publicly in the case of India and the police should not ask him what to do. If he criticized the murders of his friends, he could criticize the murders of India, but because he doesn't, he has no credibility

Are you Canadian or not.  Real Canadians don't put up with this crap.

[Army Guy]

On 10/15/2024 at 9:36 AM, ExFlyer said:

Huh?

One of the most disjointed posts of the year.

Seems you are good at nonsensical posts LOL

Well to be honest i think him and August are tied....

[Army Guy]

On 10/16/2024 at 9:51 AM, QuebecOverCanada said:

I still wonder what was in the mind of those who let that person come to Canada, and even grant him citizenship.

He was known as problematic before entering our soil, but somehow the authorities decided it was a good idea to let him come. 

Our immigration system is too leniant, to say the least.

Just another example of how it does not fully protect Canadians, he is not the first nor will he be the last....our system is not lenient but broken in many instances...