Rebound Posted October 4, 2024 Report Posted October 4, 2024 No bragging, no ranting, just getting the job done. Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg was instrumental to ending this strike, getting dockworkers a 62% raise; they had asked for a 75% raise. The agreement sends workers back to work immediately, but the agreement must still be ratified by the rank and file. 2 Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
ironstone Posted October 4, 2024 Report Posted October 4, 2024 1 hour ago, Rebound said: No bragging, no ranting, just getting the job done. Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg was instrumental to ending this strike, getting dockworkers a 62% raise; they had asked for a 75% raise. The agreement sends workers back to work immediately, but the agreement must still be ratified by the rank and file. I wonder if this extremely generous settlement is going to spur on more strikes. Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
gatomontes99 Posted October 4, 2024 Report Posted October 4, 2024 Funny, because the USA Today doesn't mention Bootyjudge. https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2024/10/03/port-workers-deal-to-end-strike-union-says/75504414007/ 1 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
robosmith Posted October 4, 2024 Report Posted October 4, 2024 56 minutes ago, ironstone said: I wonder if this extremely generous settlement is going to spur on more strikes. I wonder if you can EVER see the bright side of a Biden's accomplishment. LMAO 44 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Funny, because the USA Today doesn't mention Bootyjudge. https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2024/10/03/port-workers-deal-to-end-strike-union-says/75504414007/ Probably cause when you searched you spelled the name wrong. LMAO 2 Quote
herbie Posted October 5, 2024 Report Posted October 5, 2024 SSHHHH!!! Give them time to invent a bullshit story of how he caused it in the first place. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted October 5, 2024 Report Posted October 5, 2024 3 hours ago, robosmith said: I wonder if you can EVER see the bright side of a Biden's accomplishment. LMAO I thought it was supposed to be buttigiegs accomplishment? Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
CdnFox Posted October 5, 2024 Report Posted October 5, 2024 1 hour ago, herbie said: SSHHHH!!! Give them time to invent a bullshit story of how he caused it in the first place. You mean give your side time to come up with an appropriate lie to explain why they said it was his work when actually it wasn't Reading the newspaper clippings on it it seems that virtually all of the democrats are claiming credit for it. Including Biden who says it's his victory. But a bunch of democrats of which Pete was one of many are "credited" as well as biden and a few others. Why would you claim that it was his victory alone as the op suggests? Oh that's right, I forgot the democrats are all about stolen valor Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
TreeBeard Posted October 5, 2024 Report Posted October 5, 2024 5 hours ago, ironstone said: I wonder if this extremely generous settlement is going to spur on more strikes. You don’t think workers should be paid well? Quote
CdnFox Posted October 5, 2024 Report Posted October 5, 2024 8 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: You don’t think workers should be paid well? You think they should be overpaid? Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Nationalist Posted October 5, 2024 Report Posted October 5, 2024 12 hours ago, robosmith said: Probably cause when you searched you spelled the name wrong. LMAO No... @gatomontes99 is correct. I've combed through several reports on this and Pothole Pete is not even mentioned. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
ironstone Posted October 5, 2024 Report Posted October 5, 2024 9 hours ago, TreeBeard said: You don’t think workers should be paid well? Robosmith said that it's a 62% raise. Even with record 40 year highs in inflation, doesn't that number seem overly generous even if it's government that is paying? You have that California mindset. They raised the fast food minimum wage to $20 per hour and the end result is job losses because it's not sustainable. https://www.hoover.org/research/california-loses-nearly-10000-fast-food-jobs-after-20-minimum-wage-signed-last-fall If people feel they aren't paid well enough they can get another job. Some are underpaid, and some are overpaid. Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
Legato Posted October 5, 2024 Report Posted October 5, 2024 Buttsinakeg, so that's where all the butts robo keeps laughing off are ending up. Seriously, the only reason the Gov capitulated is it's just 30 days to an election. Buttigieg had nothing to do with it. Quote
robosmith Posted October 6, 2024 Report Posted October 6, 2024 14 hours ago, ironstone said: Robosmith said that it's a 62% raise. Even with record 40 year highs in inflation, doesn't that number seem overly generous even if it's government that is paying? Yeah, you're LYING. I never said anything about the dockworker's raise. Quote
robosmith Posted October 6, 2024 Report Posted October 6, 2024 9 hours ago, Legato said: Buttsinakeg, so that's where all the butts robo keeps laughing off are ending up. Seriously, the only reason the Gov capitulated is it's just 30 days to an election. Buttigieg had nothing to do with it. The gov didn't capitulate, it convinced the owners to settle with a significant raise by NOT invoking Taft-Hartley. Quote
CdnFox Posted October 6, 2024 Report Posted October 6, 2024 1 hour ago, robosmith said: Yeah, you're LYING. I never said anything about the dockworker's raise. You never said you did. He just asked you a question. You don't even listen to people anymore you just simply say you're lying even if you don't even know what they're talking about 1 hour ago, robosmith said: The gov didn't capitulate, it convinced the owners to settle with a significant raise by NOT invoking Taft-Hartley. That's literally what capitulating is Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
ironstone Posted October 6, 2024 Report Posted October 6, 2024 14 hours ago, robosmith said: Yeah, you're LYING. I never said anything about the dockworker's raise. Sorry, my bad. I confused you with Rebound, who did say it was 62%. I do get you guys confused on here sometimes. Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
Legato Posted October 6, 2024 Report Posted October 6, 2024 14 hours ago, robosmith said: The gov didn't capitulate, it convinced the owners to settle with a significant raise by NOT invoking Taft-Hartley. The strike is not over just suspended until Jan 15th. Quote
Rebound Posted October 6, 2024 Author Report Posted October 6, 2024 2 hours ago, Legato said: The strike is not over just suspended until Jan 15th. The strike is over but members have to ratify the agreement. Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
CdnFox Posted October 6, 2024 Report Posted October 6, 2024 2 hours ago, Legato said: The strike is not over just suspended until Jan 15th. 1 minute ago, Rebound said: The strike is over but members have to ratify the agreement. You're both sort of right. The strike is over for now and the members do have to ratify the agreement but not everything is resolved and they have to Jan 15 to do so. The Maritime Alliance increased its offer amid public pressure from the Biden administration to put forward a contract offering higher wages. The tentative agreement does not resolve differences between the union and shipping companies over the use of automated machinery, sources said. That will be a key focus of negotiations between both sides from now until January 15. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
impartialobserver Posted October 7, 2024 Report Posted October 7, 2024 The paranoia around this strike proves for the 812th time that Idiocracy is not just a movie. Its prophetic and correct. Quote
Moonbox Posted October 7, 2024 Report Posted October 7, 2024 On 10/4/2024 at 4:34 PM, Rebound said: No bragging, no ranting, just getting the job done. Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg was instrumental to ending this strike, getting dockworkers a 62% raise; they had asked for a 75% raise. The agreement sends workers back to work immediately, but the agreement must still be ratified by the rank and file. Why would you brag about giving a 62% raise for workers? I don't know the specifics of their last contract and how long it's been since they had their wages increased, but unless it was like 10 years or something, then a 62% raise is...a lot. Caving to monopolistic infrastructure union demands is not great politics...usually. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Rebound Posted October 7, 2024 Author Report Posted October 7, 2024 (edited) On 10/5/2024 at 9:41 AM, ironstone said: Robosmith said that it's a 62% raise. Even with record 40 year highs in inflation, doesn't that number seem overly generous even if it's government that is paying? You have that California mindset. They raised the fast food minimum wage to $20 per hour and the end result is job losses because it's not sustainable. https://www.hoover.org/research/california-loses-nearly-10000-fast-food-jobs-after-20-minimum-wage-signed-last-fall If people feel they aren't paid well enough they can get another job. Some are underpaid, and some are overpaid. I get that you believe the rich are entitled to pay workers as little as possible, get the government to slash taxes and make obscene amounts of profit and use every dirty trick in the book to keep it that way. But American workers have the right to join unions. And that’s what the longshoremen have done. They’re allowed to. Too bad that the rich don’t get to keep every single penny there is. The docks won’t go out of business. Edited October 7, 2024 by Rebound Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
ironstone Posted October 7, 2024 Report Posted October 7, 2024 1 hour ago, Rebound said: I get that you believe the rich are entitled to pay workers as little as possible, get the government to slash taxes and make obscene amounts of profit and use every dirty trick in the book to keep it that way. But American workers have the right to join unions. And that’s what the longshoremen have done. They’re allowed to. Too bad that the rich don’t get to keep every single penny there is. The docks won’t go out of business. Do you by chance own a small business? And if so, would you give your employees a 62% raise? Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
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