Vance beat the shit out of Walz last night.

[Nationalist]

11 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

I didn't attack him.  I thought he did well.

You're forever confused by non binary thinking...

Well...I have spent my professional life in IT...

But honestly...based on your past here...I don't really believe you. I think your TDS is showing again.

[gatomontes99]

4 hours ago, Hodad said:

No, lol, I directly attacked your position and held the absurdity of it up for ridicule. 

You are quite literally arguing for a so-called "born alive" law that was so extreme that it would, under threat of imprisonment, force health care providers to abandon all medical judgement, common sense and decency and pointlessly perform extreme intervention procedures on non-viable infants. 

And yes, we are talking about non-viable babies, because there are already laws protecting any viable person. Doctor's must render care and infanticide is homicide, already illegal under state and federal law. There is no such thing as a "post-birth abortion." Nowhere are they "executing" newborns. It's an entirely made up claim. 

What I am telling you is that Tampon Tim signed a law that made it legal for doctors to not care for a viable, born alive baby.

[Hodad]

34 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

What I am telling you is that Tampon Tim signed a law that made it legal for doctors to not care for a viable, born alive baby.

And what you are saying is a lie.

He signed the repeal of a law that was deliberately re-written to force health care providers to preserve "life" regardless of viability.

Repealing that shitty law doesn't change the fact that doctors are required to give life saving care when, in their medical judgement, it is reasonable to do so. The obligation to administer care to patients who have a chance exists independent of the shitty repealed law. And the repeal certainly does not legalize homicide. 

Edited October 3, 2024 by Hodad

[Chrissy1979]

41 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

What I am telling you is that Tampon Tim signed a law that made it legal for doctors to not care for a viable, born alive baby.

You're lying because you're pathetic and desperate and more than a little bit stupid.

[Deluge]

15 hours ago, Black Dog said:

Lol you posted a link showing Trump getting his ass kicked you f*cking loser. You can't do anything right.

There was a CNN poll that showed Vance with a 51% advantage but obviously the communists removed it as now I can't find it anywhere. It was a shock anyways, given that CNN has been strictly for bed wetting socialists like you. 

Look, stupid, Vance clearly kicked ass despite it being 3 against one. The whores even turned his mic off when he started b*tch slapping them with the truth, but he plowed through that bullshit like a boss. 

The point is, Vance won, and Tampon Tim got stomped on live television. It was glorious, don't ya think? 

 

[Michael Hardner]

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

1. I don't really believe you.
2. I think your TDS is showing again.

1. Well, not much I can do to convince you then.  I said that JD Vance did well, I guess that's a lie too and he didn't ?
2. Again... if I say a good thing about Trudeau you think I actually love him, but if I say a good thing about Trump you think I'm lying.

This is why we don't engage, you basically think I'm a liar.

[Nationalist]

16 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Well, not much I can do to convince you then.  I said that JD Vance did well, I guess that's a lie too and he didn't ?
2. Again... if I say a good thing about Trudeau you think I actually love him, but if I say a good thing about Trump you think I'm lying.

This is why we don't engage, you basically think I'm a liar.

I'm not sure I've ever seen you say something good about Trump.

I just found it typical, that you're initial impression was one of negativity. And makeup of all things. Yet you constantly claim to be a conservative. 

I used to say that a Canadian Conservative was roughly equal to an American Democrat. And I sense that's your position. A...Harper Conservative...if you will. But times and circumstances have changed mike.

In the last...oh let's say 2 decades...the Liberal agenda has gotten really strange and costly...while the Conservative agenda has dug its heals in and fought against all the weirdness, weakness and costliness of these Liberal ideas. I suppose the T-Baggers were the first to openly oppose the status quo and began asking sensible questions that slowly morphed the ideals of Conservatives and...

Made a perfect base for people like Trump and Pollievre.

Now this is all over simplified of course, but my point is...be a modern Conservative, or be a modern Liberal. You can't cling to outdated Canadian Conservative ideals anymore. 

And it's plain that you've already made that choice.

[Black Dog]

1 hour ago, Deluge said:

There was a CNN poll that showed Vance with a 51% advantage but obviously the communists removed it as now I can't find it anywhere. It was a shock anyways, given that CNN has been strictly for bed wetting socialists like you. 

LOL I literally posted it already numbuts.

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Look, stupid, Vance clearly kicked ass despite it being 3 against one. The whores even turned his mic off when he started b*tch slapping them with the truth, but he plowed through that bullshit like a boss. 

BAH HA HA oh man this is a great bit.

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The point is, Vance won, and Tampon Tim got stomped on live television. It was glorious, don't ya think? 

Pretty much every outlet has it as a draw or a slight edge to Vance, but if that's what you need to believe to stay erect, you do you.

[Deluge]

14 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

LOL I literally posted it already numbuts.

BAH HA HA oh man this is a great bit.

Pretty much every outlet has it as a draw or a slight edge to Vance, but if that's what you need to believe to stay erect, you do you.

Yes, dumbf*ck, you caught something but it doesn't mean shit. It means everything to you, because you're dickless Harris supporter. For me? I've already been past it. lol

Of course Trump haters are going to call it draw, because you don't have the balls to tell it like it is. that's why I'm here; to tell you like it is. 

Vance curb stomped the two b*tches and their cuck, Tampon Tim, and it wasn't even close.  

[Black Dog]

2 minutes ago, Deluge said:

Yes, dumbf*ck, you caught something but it doesn't mean shit. It means everything to you, because you're dickless Harris supporter. For me? I've already been past it. lol

Yeah man you totally sound over it and not like an unhinged lunatic ball of rage at all here lol.

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Of course Trump haters are going to call it draw, because you don't have the balls to tell it like it is. that's why I'm here; to tell you like it is. 

I wouldn't trust you to tell me teh sky was blue you deranged boomer f*ck.

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Vance curb stomped the two b*tches and their cuck, Tampon Tim, and it wasn't even close.  

Again, if that's what you need to tell yourself, but Viagara is a much cheaper and easier way to get it up than fantasies about your sweet JD.

Edited October 3, 2024 by Black Dog

[Deluge]

14 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

1. Yeah man you totally sound over it 

2. I wouldn't trust you to tell me teh sky was blue you deranged boomer f*ck.

3. Again, if that's what you need to tell yourself, but Viagara is a much cheaper and easier way to get it up than fantasies about your sweet JD.

1. Thank you. Now you can calmly stfu. 

2. Well, that's to be expected when I'm dealing with a Tampon Tim supporter, but you're going to hear it anyways.  

3. The truth is what I rely on. It's why it's so easy to see that Vance mopped the floor with all three of those pervert degenerates. 

[Black Dog]

7 minutes ago, Deluge said:

1. Thank you. Now you can calmly stfu. 

2. Well, that's to be expected when I'm dealing with a Tampon Tim supporter, but you're going to hear it anyways.  

3. The truth is what I rely on. It's why it's so easy to see that Vance mopped the floor with all three of those pervert degenerates. 

You're so out of it you probably think this picture of JD you crank it to is the real thing lol.

[Deluge]

34 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

You're so out of it you probably think this picture of JD you crank it to is the real thing lol.

Braindead Dog on November 6:  

 

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

1. I'm not sure I've ever seen you say something good about Trump.

2. I just found it typical, that you're initial impression was one of negativity. And makeup of all things. Yet you constantly claim to be a conservative. 

3. I used to say that a Canadian Conservative was roughly equal to an American Democrat. And I sense that's your position. A...Harper Conservative...if you will. But times and circumstances have changed mike.

4. Now this is all over simplified of course, but my point is...be a modern Conservative, or be a modern Liberal. You can't cling to outdated Canadian Conservative ideals anymore. 

5. And it's plain that you've already made that choice.

1. Well I have.  And any honest person who follows politics will know that his approach had the most opportunity for a sea change in how government works.  My disrespect for his character and methods are known, so I will just step aside all that by saying he wasn't able to achieve the scope of change that he envisioned ok ?

More below.

2. ?  I think I complimented him in absence of knowledge s to what he was up to.  This is what i mean by your inability to think non-binary.  You say I can't be conservative because I asked if he wears makeup ?  

3. I'm conservative in character only.  I liked some of what Harper did.  I am not married to any party.

4. Well, conservative, liberal, marxist... none of these labels survived the arrival of social media intact.  All parties steal ideas from all others and that might be a good thing.

5. With respect, I don't think you understand my position.  Few do.  Some people see me defending an outlandish charge against a public figure and think "he must think that public figure is good at his job".  Not so.

Anyway, the GOOD of Trump:

An outsider who has worldly experience and is/was not chained to political behemoths (or FUNDING) had an opportunity to set things straight.  There are many examples I saw, such as the FDA drug approvals process which I remember being under scrutiny, Trump's calling out of Republicans being "afraid of the NRA" and the last and most significant: China.

Trump's approach to China was ham-fisted, impulsive and poorly thought out but in all of his swerves on the China file, he unearthed a truth that the establishment would have wasted decades to find out: China will never play ball under the current regime.  The single-minded leadership has been lucky to have not had anything more complex than "Export and Grow" as a plan and is unable to engage with the West honestly.  My take, yours may differ.

Only a rogue like Trump would have jostled the chains that bind the two countries together hard enough to discover this IMO.

And for all of the yelling about China, how many of his policies are being undone by Biden ?  Precious few.  Instead, they're building on it by bringing Chip Making onshore, strengthening tariffs and so on.  And Canada is following.

I do think a Trump-like leader is coming to redo everything.  It will be someone with the arrogance and will of a Trump or Musk but will also have to be someone with better manners.

My two cents.

 

[Deluge]

7 hours ago, Hodad said:

And what you are saying is a lie.

He signed the repeal of a law that was deliberately re-written to force health care providers to preserve "life" regardless of viability.

Repealing that shitty law doesn't change the fact that doctors are required to give life saving care when, in their medical judgement, it is reasonable to do so. The obligation to administer care to patients who have a chance exists independent of the shitty repealed law. And the repeal certainly does not legalize homicide. 

Wrong. 

"Viability" in this case is what's shitty. It's a shitty word, and it's complete bullshit. 

Life is life. It's human development no matter what the stage, and terminating life is wrong. 

Any law that defends unborn human life must be upheld. 

Edited October 3, 2024 by Deluge

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Well I have.  And any honest person who follows politics will know that his approach had the most opportunity for a sea change in how government works.  My disrespect for his character and methods are known, so I will just step aside all that by saying he wasn't able to achieve the scope of change that he envisioned ok ?

More below.

2. ?  I think I complimented him in absence of knowledge s to what he was up to.  This is what i mean by your inability to think non-binary.  You say I can't be conservative because I asked if he wears makeup ?  

3. I'm conservative in character only.  I liked some of what Harper did.  I am not married to any party.

4. Well, conservative, liberal, marxist... none of these labels survived the arrival of social media intact.  All parties steal ideas from all others and that might be a good thing.

5. With respect, I don't think you understand my position.  Few do.  Some people see me defending an outlandish charge against a public figure and think "he must think that public figure is good at his job".  Not so.

Anyway, the GOOD of Trump:

An outsider who has worldly experience and is/was not chained to political behemoths (or FUNDING) had an opportunity to set things straight.  There are many examples I saw, such as the FDA drug approvals process which I remember being under scrutiny, Trump's calling out of Republicans being "afraid of the NRA" and the last and most significant: China.

Trump's approach to China was ham-fisted, impulsive and poorly thought out but in all of his swerves on the China file, he unearthed a truth that the establishment would have wasted decades to find out: China will never play ball under the current regime.  The single-minded leadership has been lucky to have not had anything more complex than "Export and Grow" as a plan and is unable to engage with the West honestly.  My take, yours may differ.

Only a rogue like Trump would have jostled the chains that bind the two countries together hard enough to discover this IMO.

And for all of the yelling about China, how many of his policies are being undone by Biden ?  Precious few.  Instead, they're building on it by bringing Chip Making onshore, strengthening tariffs and so on.  And Canada is following.

I do think a Trump-like leader is coming to redo everything.  It will be someone with the arrogance and will of a Trump or Musk but will also have to be someone with better manners.

My two cents.

 

Now we're getting somewhere...

 No he did not get his entire scope accomplished. The Wall for instance. A shortcoming Paul Ryan shares the blame for. I can't make my mind up if Trump is lucky or smart. He is abrasive but I'm good with that. Hell, look at some o' the spats I get into. But we have one glaring difference as I see it. I don't care if a leader is a boor. I care about results. I do have to admit that I prefer Pollievre to Trump, except that Trump is very entertaining. Meh...Pierre has his moments too...Have an apple...Anyway...

Trump brought forth the mistrust everyone has with the government and he did it boldly. He didn't weak-ass around. He had Merkel and Pelosi wound like tops. And Mike...they all needed that wake-up call. Even Ping and "Rocket Man". His very audacity had everyone in the diplomatic world, freaking fcking out! It was beautiful to watch. And WAY overdue. 

[herbie]

All Vance showed was that he can keep a straight and almost human face while he spews the same lies and dodges anything to do with policy.
Unlike the frothing insane maniac he's supposedly backing.

[CdnFox]

45 minutes ago, herbie said:

All Vance showed was that he can keep a straight and almost human face while he spews the same lies and dodges anything to do with policy.
Unlike the frothing insane maniac he's supposedly backing.

The public consensus was that while there weren't any real gotcha's or knock outs  vance did better. 

[Guest]

11 hours ago, CdnFox said:

vance did better

Debatable, you saying otherwise is bias. Not fact, stupid. 

[impartialobserver]

VP debates are mostly irrelevant. They give politicos something to chew on for a day or two. 

[User]

1 hour ago, impartialobserver said:

VP debates are mostly irrelevant. They give politicos something to chew on for a day or two. 

Here you are 3 days later... 

[CdnFox]

10 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Debatable, you saying otherwise is bias. Not fact, stupid. 

No, it's the general consensus. 

Sorry  i forgot your attention span is so short that you forget the beginning of a sentence by the time you get to the end 😂🤣😆😂🤣😆

LOL, holy crap kid, you really are the perfect straight man, if i guess your gender correctly   

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, impartialobserver said:

VP debates are mostly irrelevant. They give politicos something to chew on for a day or two. 

It's largely true, but I think this one did have an underlying effect that may very well show up in the polling. Hard to say. I think that prior to this the harris team was really pushing hard to sell the "He's weird" line, and also he's a crazy hard ass who is out of control.

Anyone watching this will not believe that for a second. He was in control. He wasn't weird. In fact he was easily the most normal guy on the stage. He was extremely smooth and professional. He had his facts right, he spoke well, and sounded extremely competent.

So I think that they are going to have a very difficult time convincing anyone that this guy is dangerous. And that is a bit of a problem for the Kamala team. And it may give certain people a good excuse to vote for the trump team where they may not have been 100% comfortable before.

We'll see. Obviously we won't know if there's any real effect for another week

[Guest]

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

No, it's the general consensus. 

Sorry  i forgot your attention span is so short that you forget the beginning of a sentence by the time you get to the end 😂🤣😆😂🤣😆

LOL, holy crap kid, you really are the perfect straight man, if i guess your gender correctly   

Wow. So many emojis. Sounds like you're mad 🙃

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

Wow. So many emojis. Sounds like you're mad 🙃

You associate laughter with anger because most of the time it's people laughing at you and that makes you angry  

And you assume everyone else must be angry because you're angry, because if that wasn't the case then that means there might be something wrong with you  And you really don't want there to be something wrong with you , you want there to be something wrong with everyone else. 

I hope you prepared for disappointment....

LOL  i genuinely am going to miss you, this has easily been one of the most hiarious and over the top reactions to losing a discussion i've seen just about anywhere and it's truly priceless  There are hand grenades that don't go to pieces as fast as  you   It's both fascinating and interesting to watch and hilariously funny. I like some of the conversations here but honestly this kind of thing is what really makes it worth  it , the complete mental meltdown and bizarre behavior. 

I appreciate the opportunity to watch it.  I wish you all the best in the future after you delete your account.