myata Posted June 16, 2024 Report Posted June 16, 2024 Right at the time when the new Axis of aggressive dictators is rising Trump threatened to cut the aid to Ukraine if reelected. There's no question who is he cheering for, and will be working for. And he never really tried to hide it. So, no pretending ignorance. Not a fun lottery: only the citizenship test. 3 Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
Deluge Posted June 16, 2024 Report Posted June 16, 2024 44 minutes ago, myata said: Right at the time when the new Axis of aggressive dictators is rising Trump threatened to cut the aid to Ukraine if reelected. There's no question who is he cheering for, and will be working for. And he never really tried to hide it. So, no pretending ignorance. Not a fun lottery: only the citizenship test. You China sluts are a piece of work. lol 2 1 Quote
myata Posted June 16, 2024 Author Report Posted June 16, 2024 (edited) He will come to love Xi too. Like why an exception? Illogical. Edited June 16, 2024 by myata 1 Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
CdnFox Posted June 16, 2024 Report Posted June 16, 2024 9 minutes ago, myata said: Hi will come to love Xi too. Like why an exception? Illogical. Why not? I mean if you're going to write bad fiction you might as well go all out. Not that you can write. 1 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Nationalist Posted June 16, 2024 Report Posted June 16, 2024 1 hour ago, myata said: Hi will come to love Xi too. Like why an exception? Illogical. Sonny-boy... Politics and diplomacy are not games for either the weak or the stupid. Brandon happens to be both...and everyone sees it. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Legato Posted June 16, 2024 Report Posted June 16, 2024 2 hours ago, myata said: Right at the time when the new Axis of aggressive dictators is rising Trump threatened to cut the aid to Ukraine if reelected. There's no question who is he cheering for, and will be working for. And he never really tried to hide it. So, no pretending ignorance. Not a fun lottery: only the citizenship test. Two Bison started to fight each other, which one won? Quote
myata Posted June 16, 2024 Author Report Posted June 16, 2024 Well for that we do have the facts: The buffoon "fixed" North Korea problem, but only in his fat cheeks. In the reality Un simply led him around his finger and will do it again and again, any time. While in 2022 Putin set ultimatums to the West and NATO. Today he can accept lifting sanctions but no one is talking about that. That's the reality and it means something. But only for those with eyes to see and brain to understand it. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
herbie Posted June 16, 2024 Report Posted June 16, 2024 Drew instant responses from every ignorant Russian troll on the board, good work. Our resident so-called 'defenders of democracy' don't want it ended just in the USA, they want it ended everywhere! 1 Quote
ironstone Posted June 16, 2024 Report Posted June 16, 2024 47 minutes ago, myata said: Well for that we do have the facts: The buffoon "fixed" North Korea problem, but only in his fat cheeks. In the reality Un simply led him around his finger and will do it again and again, any time. While in 2022 Putin set ultimatums to the West and NATO. Today he can accept lifting sanctions but no one is talking about that. That's the reality and it means something. But only for those with eyes to see and brain to understand it. The question is, what does victory look like for Ukraine? Zelensky isn't going to gain back the territory already lost to Russia and Putin won't give it back either. Neither side has the might to defeat the other outright so they are left with a stalemate. Incremental gains and losses with no end in sight. How long is the Biden administration prepared to keep on funding this war? If you believe them, they say 'as long as it takes'. It's extremely costly for the West already. Biden is helping to prolong the war while Trump says he wants to end it ASAP. Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
Rebound Posted June 16, 2024 Report Posted June 16, 2024 3 hours ago, Deluge said: You China sluts are a piece of work. lol The “China sluts” just imposed 100% tariffs on Chinese cars, and got Europe to follow with 34% tariffs. 8 minutes ago, ironstone said: The question is, what does victory look like for Ukraine? Zelensky isn't going to gain back the territory already lost to Russia and Putin won't give it back either. Neither side has the might to defeat the other outright so they are left with a stalemate. Incremental gains and losses with no end in sight. How long is the Biden administration prepared to keep on funding this war? If you believe them, they say 'as long as it takes'. It's extremely costly for the West already. Biden is helping to prolong the war while Trump says he wants to end it ASAP. Cut the crap. You and Trump want to surrender Ukraine to Putin, you’re Russia sluts, and you’re wrong. 2 Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
myata Posted June 16, 2024 Author Report Posted June 16, 2024 (edited) 11 minutes ago, ironstone said: How long is the Biden administration prepared to keep on funding this war? If you believe them, they say 'as long as it takes'. It's extremely costly for the West already. Biden is helping to prolong the war while Trump says he wants to end it ASAP. It helps to try to understand the meaning of the words. Just because you want to end something, no matter how much you want it, it doesn't mean that the solution that a) costs you nothing and b) achieves your goals exists in the reality. These questions are nothing new: why wouldn't you, in place of repeating coin phrases have a reading on the relatively recent history? What was the cost of the free countries of the West, whole of Europe plus Britain plus some help from the US coming together to stand to and show real strength to Hitler in 1937-1938? What would be the cost of it, compared to that of the WWII, and the division of Europe that followed all the way to 1990s? The answer is there, it cannot be changed because it's given not by some lying cheeks but by the history itself. So throwing the question up again and again speaks only of ignorance and maybe, carelessness. But in history, there's no office to send belated explanations and regrets to. Those who wouldn't learn just pay the going price; or perish. Edited June 16, 2024 by myata Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
robosmith Posted June 16, 2024 Report Posted June 16, 2024 3 hours ago, Nationalist said: Sonny-boy... Politics and diplomacy are not games for either the weak or the stupid. Brandon happens to be both...and everyone sees it. You're so weak and stupid that you believe you aren't. Quote
robosmith Posted June 16, 2024 Report Posted June 16, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, ironstone said: The question is, what does victory look like for Ukraine? Zelensky isn't going to gain back the territory already lost to Russia and Putin won't give it back either. Neither side has the might to defeat the other outright so they are left with a stalemate. Incremental gains and losses with no end in sight. How long is the Biden administration prepared to keep on funding this war? If you believe them, they say 'as long as it takes'. It's extremely costly for the West already. Biden is helping to prolong the war while Trump says he wants to end it ASAP. Is 5% of our defense budget really "extremely costly"? We are sending weapons approaching retirement date and replacing them with NEW while providing JOBS. You don't even account for the cost of letting Ukraine and its huge gas reserves fall into Russian hands (among other things) because YOU'RE NOT AWARE OF THEM. IOW, it is NOT NEARLY as costly as you believe, your OPINIONS notwithstanding. Edited June 16, 2024 by robosmith Quote
gatomontes99 Posted June 16, 2024 Report Posted June 16, 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, Rebound said: The “China sluts” just imposed 100% tariffs on Chinese cars, and got Europe to follow with 34% tariffs. Cut the crap. You and Trump want to surrender Ukraine to Putin, you’re Russia sluts, and you’re wrong. Who came up with that idea first? I'm old enough to remember when democrats called tarrifs against China, racist. Edited June 16, 2024 by gatomontes99 1 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
suds Posted June 16, 2024 Report Posted June 16, 2024 I don't agree with Trump's plan to cut aid to Ukraine, but if Trump was such a Putin cheerleader, why didn't he invade while Trump was in office? Quote
herbie Posted June 17, 2024 Report Posted June 17, 2024 3 hours ago, Rebound said: The “China sluts” just imposed 100% tariffs on Chinese cars, and got Europe to follow with 34% tariffs. To keep up the half-assed efforts of GM and Ford forever. Unghh unghh no one's buying $150K Hummers, that proves nobody likes EVs. Shut the lines down and try again in 5 years... I forgot to mention Stillatit.... whoops! I meant Stellantis Quote
CdnFox Posted June 17, 2024 Report Posted June 17, 2024 7 hours ago, Legato said: Two Bison started to fight each other, which one won? I think his name was Goredon. 3 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: Who came up with that idea first? I'm old enough to remember when democrats called tarrifs against China, racist. So you're like 4 years old at least then 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
ironstone Posted June 17, 2024 Report Posted June 17, 2024 3 hours ago, robosmith said: Is 5% of our defense budget really "extremely costly"? We are sending weapons approaching retirement date and replacing them with NEW while providing JOBS. You don't even account for the cost of letting Ukraine and its huge gas reserves fall into Russian hands (among other things) because YOU'RE NOT AWARE OF THEM. IOW, it is NOT NEARLY as costly as you believe, your OPINIONS notwithstanding. So it's about getting US hands on all that energy? Here I am, an average conservative guy, thinking that more effort and pressure should be directed towards ending the war, while you, the far-left guy, are cheering safely from the sidelines for a war that has no end in sight. Call me nostalgic, but I prefer the more peaceful time when Trump was president as opposed to this costly, escalating conflict under Biden. 1 Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
CdnFox Posted June 17, 2024 Report Posted June 17, 2024 13 minutes ago, ironstone said: We are sending weapons approaching retirement date and replacing them with NEW while providing JOBS. Were, and that made sense. It also makes sense to test weapons that have never really been used in war before as the feedback will go a long way to helping improve the next generation. But those days are coming to an end. The weapons have been tested and the data is available. The old stockpiles are all but gone and anything that gets sent over now has to be paid for new. And because the government has to borrow money to pay for that those jobs wind up creating pressure for the inflationary cycle. Biden is already having a difficult time trying to get inflation down to target and that does not help at all. I think there was a strong argument in the past but I think that argument is starting to show signs of age. It's going to be harder and harder to convince people to maintain this moving forward Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
robosmith Posted June 17, 2024 Report Posted June 17, 2024 3 hours ago, ironstone said: So it's about getting US hands on all that energy? No, it's about preventing Putin from having a monopoly on gas supplies for Europe. 3 hours ago, ironstone said: Here I am, an average conservative guy, thinking that more effort and pressure should be directed towards ending the war, while you, the far-left guy, are cheering safely from the sidelines for a war that has no end in sight. Says you. I am promoting the concept that there should be NO REWARDS for naked aggression, to prevent FURTHER AGGRESSION. 3 hours ago, ironstone said: Call me nostalgic, but I prefer the more peaceful time when Trump was president as opposed to this costly, escalating conflict under Biden. We were still in Afghanistan and stirring up trouble in Iran, to the point of a retaliatory strike by them against our soldiers. Who told you it was "more peaceful"? You MAKE NO SENSE trying to blame PUTIN'S AGGRESSION on Biden. I figure Putin didn't attack previously because Trump was ready to hand over whatever Putin wanted and Putin knew it cause Trump was publicly kowtowing to him every chance he got. 🤮 Trump gets no points with me for selling out the Western world's energy supplies to Putin. Quote
Nationalist Posted June 17, 2024 Report Posted June 17, 2024 12 hours ago, robosmith said: You're so weak and stupid that you believe you aren't. Lol... 🙄 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
myata Posted June 17, 2024 Author Report Posted June 17, 2024 8 hours ago, ironstone said: Here I am, an average conservative guy, thinking that more effort and pressure should be directed towards ending the war, But you're only repeating coin phrases - lies actually, because a regular guy in a democratic country cannot be so dumb to not see it that something called "peace", with Hitler or his likes cannot exist in this reality, while tongues and cheeks can produce any sound, right? So, how do you go about "peace" with Hitler? How do you obtain "peace" with ICIS? Please think and answer only to yourself, but honestly so that you can understand it and believe it. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
Nationalist Posted June 17, 2024 Report Posted June 17, 2024 5 hours ago, robosmith said: No, it's about preventing Putin from having a monopoly on gas supplies for Europe. Says you. I am promoting the concept that there should be NO REWARDS for naked aggression, to prevent FURTHER AGGRESSION. We were still in Afghanistan and stirring up trouble in Iran, to the point of a retaliatory strike by them against our soldiers. Who told you it was "more peaceful"? You MAKE NO SENSE trying to blame PUTIN'S AGGRESSION on Biden. I figure Putin didn't attack previously because Trump was ready to hand over whatever Putin wanted and Putin knew it cause Trump was publicly kowtowing to him every chance he got. 🤮 Trump gets no points with me for selling out the Western world's energy supplies to Putin. Trump gets no points from you eh...I bet that news will break his heart. I know I'm just torn up about it. I'm curious...how long do you Libbies think you can rely on this "RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA" hoax? Don't you realize what a worn out old joke that is? Or is it that things are so bad for you and Brandon, that falling back on old and exposed lies are all you've got left? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted June 17, 2024 Report Posted June 17, 2024 28 minutes ago, myata said: But you're only repeating coin phrases - lies actually, because a regular guy in a democratic country cannot be so dumb to not see it that something called "peace", with Hitler or his likes cannot exist in this reality, while tongues and cheeks can produce any sound, right? So, how do you go about "peace" with Hitler? How do you obtain "peace" with ICIS? Please think and answer only to yourself, but honestly so that you can understand it and believe it. Psst...Mushmouth...don't tell anyone but... HITLER IS DEAD! Now...I believe you can tell your analyst that your deep seeded fears are gone. You're welcome. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
myata Posted June 17, 2024 Author Report Posted June 17, 2024 (edited) Dead brain doesn't have the answer. Obviously. Edited June 17, 2024 by myata Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
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