betsy Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 https://www.msn.com/en-ca/health/other/bc-law-to-recover-health-costs-from-companies-behind-harmful-products-ag-sharma/ar-BB1jTUvC Define, "harmful." DIABETES, not to mention OBESITY, has become an "epidemic," even among the young. Health cost dealing with these diseases, must be staggering! I suppose, companies like Tim Horton's? McDonald's? Coca-Cola and Pepsi-Cola? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 (edited) The BC NDP once again spending millions on lawyers for nothing. You can sure tell there is an election in the fall. Edited March 15 by Aristides 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legato Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 7 hours ago, betsy said: https://www.msn.com/en-ca/health/other/bc-law-to-recover-health-costs-from-companies-behind-harmful-products-ag-sharma/ar-BB1jTUvC Define, "harmful." DIABETES, not to mention OBESITY, has become an "epidemic," even among the young. Health cost dealing with these diseases, must be staggering! I suppose, companies like Tim Horton's? McDonald's? Coca-Cola and Pepsi-Cola? So will the BC government be suing itself for harm created by the government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 Negative Nellies distort seeking recovery of health-related tobacco and opioid damage costs into something bad. Again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Guy Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 20 minutes ago, herbie said: Negative Nellies distort seeking recovery of health-related tobacco and opioid damage costs into something bad. Again. And here i thought it was a "personal" choice to smoke or take opiods, and they even come with colorful pictures and warnings not to mention all the education funding the government spent....this could happen if you smoke, and yet it is the companies fault for making them smoke...when are people going to take responsibility for their own actions... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 3 hours ago, Army Guy said: and yet it is the companies fault for making them smoke. Oh yes, and the people that make guns have no responsibility for their use either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 One more step towards an orwellian state and forget having businesses start up here. Suing companies like facebook for 'sextortion' is insane. People have choice. I can see suing companies if there's some element of danger the public woudln't reasonably be aware of, but you can't just sue everyone because people choose to misuse things or let their kids play with stuff unsupervised that they shouldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 3 minutes ago, herbie said: Oh yes, and the people that make guns have no responsibility for their use either. But drug addicts should be held responsible for their misuse of illegal narcotics and denied medical services if they choose to overdoes right? Right? You're such a hypocrite. The people who get hurt in the end by this kind of nonsense are ALWAYS society's most vulnerable. But hey - who cares if kids die as long as you get to virtue signal a bit, amirite? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuebecOverCanada Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 5 hours ago, Army Guy said: when are people going to take responsibility for their own actions... We need Mommy government... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perspektiv Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 20 hours ago, herbie said: Oh yes, and the people that make guns have no responsibility for their use either. Explain to me how some countries with high per capita guns, have far less or more murders than others? Guns are only part of the issue. Blaming guns, are like blaming high speed sports cars for reckless driving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 (edited) There's be no need to virtue signal if it wasn't so obvious that so many people have none. Gun makers have been gone after for their culpability, and you all know that cigarette makers have been too by every level of govt. Otherwise that thumb his nose arsehole Zuckerberg' Facebook wouldn't be the only platform advertising cigarettes. Yet here you are complaining that the BC govt shouldn't simply because you don't like them they're NDP, and calling others hypocrites. Edited March 16 by herbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 1 minute ago, herbie said: There's be no need to virtue signal if it wasn't so obvious that so many people have none. Gun makers have been gone after for their culpability, and you all know that cigarette makers have been too by every level of govt. Otherwise that thumb his nose arsehole Zuckerberg' Facebook wouldn't be the only platform advertising cigarettes. Yet here you are complaining that the BC govt shouldn't simply because you don't like them they're NDP, and calling others hypocrites. There's never a need to virtue signal but at least you admit that's what you're doing. Which gun maker has been successfully sued for what culpability? Especially in canada? If you can prove that a company is doing something illegal like deliberately selling guns to gangs that would be one thing but otherwise it's bullcrap virtue signalling that you should be ashamed of. More people will die in booze related deaths like drunk driving this year - will we be suing labatts? Stolen cars kill a lot of people too - is toyota on your hit list? The hypocrisy is why people are taking the left less and less seriously these days and why the world is turning to the right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perspektiv Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 2 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Stolen cars kill a lot of people too - is toyota on your hit list? You left out heart related ailments being high on the list if top killers in Canada. McDonald's didn't make someone fat. Them chowing down big macs and super sizing everything, just maybe had a part to play with things. Also, one would have to look at the type of guns responsible for the bulk of the problems. Are they legally owned? Or illegal and smuggled? Its easier to blame companies than it would be to delve into what increases murder rates in a society where the standard of living is worsening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 3 minutes ago, Perspektiv said: You left out heart related ailments being high on the list if top killers in Canada. McDonald's didn't make someone fat. Them chowing down big macs and super sizing everything, just maybe had a part to play with things. Also, one would have to look at the type of guns responsible for the bulk of the problems. Are they legally owned? Or illegal and smuggled? Its easier to blame companies than it would be to delve into what increases murder rates in a society where the standard of living is worsening. Well you're hitting the nail on the head. Banning forks and spoons is a bad way to fight obesity. Banning soft drinks is not a good answer to diabetes. We will only succeed long term as a society by teaching people to be responsible. Eat in moderation. Pick good foods. Drive safely. Don't overdrink without a plan to get home. Don't kill people. Etc. But no - it's the burger's fault, it's the car's fault it's the booze's fault and it's the gun's fault. Stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 Pretty much every packaged food is a steaming pile of garbage ready to clog your arteries in favour of shelf-life so they'll be suing for the next century it sounds like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legato Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: If you can prove that a company is doing something illegal like deliberately selling guns to gangs that would be one thing but otherwise it's bullcrap virtue signalling that you should be ashamed of. Or you could say, it's bullpup virtue signaling. 😀 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 40 minutes ago, Legato said: Or you could say, it's bullpup virtue signaling. 😀 Go sit in your corner and think about what you've done young man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 3 hours ago, CdnFox said: There's never a need to virtue signal but at least you admit that's what you're doing. Which gun maker has been successfully sued for what culpability? Especially in canada? If you can prove that a company is doing something illegal like deliberately selling guns to gangs that would be one thing but otherwise it's bullcrap virtue signalling that you should be ashamed of. More people will die in booze related deaths like drunk driving this year - will we be suing labatts? Stolen cars kill a lot of people too - is toyota on your hit list? The hypocrisy is why people are taking the left less and less seriously these days and why the world is turning to the right. I guess we will see. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-appeals-court-revives-mexicos-10-billion-lawsuit-against-gun-makers-2024-01-22/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 53 minutes ago, Aristides said: I guess we will see. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-appeals-court-revives-mexicos-10-billion-lawsuit-against-gun-makers-2024-01-22/ From your own cite tho - Mexico's lawyers argued the law only bars lawsuits over injuries that occur in the U.S. and does not shield the seven manufacturers and one distributor it sued from liability over the trafficking of guns to Mexican criminals. So - as i said, if you can prove the gun manufacturer is illegally selling guns to criminals then that's one thing. That has nothing to do with suing over people misusing the product. It's like the difference between suing labatts becasue there are drunk drivers and suing labatts because they're selling beer illegally to 10 year olds knowingly. So... not really a relevant case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legato Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 2 hours ago, CdnFox said: Go sit in your corner and think about what you've done young man. Young? I wish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 18 minutes ago, Legato said: Young? I wish. Well, compared to a tree i mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perspektiv Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 15 hours ago, CdnFox said: We will only succeed long term as a society by teaching people to be responsible. Switzerland has among the highest gun ownership per capita, in the world. Nothing like the US, regarding mass shootings, even though a significant portion of the country owns a firearm. There is also a very high ownership of assault rifles, there. I don't buy for a second, that the US issue is a gun problem. Its a cultural issue. Switzerland also isn't facing moral decay. They're not destroying institutions, or what used to me men or women. They don't push highly divisive issues. In fact, they're insanely neutral, politically. Living in Switzerland isn't miserable. Combine misery, with lax laws on gun ownership, and a cowboy mentality regarding gun use--and you'll likely have a recipe for disaster, and people using guns as a first resort, vs a last possible one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legato Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 12 hours ago, CdnFox said: Well, compared to a tree i mean. Even then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 4 hours ago, Perspektiv said: Switzerland also isn't facing moral decay. It isn't being torn to pieces by ideological hatred. Maybe they killed off all their lefties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 3 minutes ago, eyeball said: It isn't being torn to pieces by ideological hatred. Maybe they killed off all their lefties. They must have if everyone's allowed to have an assault rifle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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