DUI_Offender Posted October 16, 2024 Report Posted October 16, 2024 8 hours ago, User said: I think it is an exaggerated claim. I think it is 50/40/10 that Trump insist Ukraine accept some kind of crappy deal where they lose a lot of land already taken by Russia, but it would come with a more iron clad backing from us, possibly NATO membership... or, enough Republicans control the purse strings and Congress with Democrats to drive a continued support of them or that somehow someway Trump is so bold and threatening to Russia we go the full opposite direction and back Ukraine even more and force Russia to somehow take a shitty deal for them giving up much of the land they have taken. You must be joking. Trump is in Putin's back pocket, and if he wins the election, he will cut off all aid to the country. Trump is not "Bold and threatening" to Russia, considering he was never that way in his first Presidency. Quote
User Posted October 16, 2024 Report Posted October 16, 2024 1 hour ago, DUI_Offender said: You must be joking. Trump is in Putin's back pocket, and if he wins the election, he will cut off all aid to the country. Trump is not "Bold and threatening" to Russia, considering he was never that way in his first Presidency. This is such a dumb left-wing talking point that has no basis in reality. Putin did not invade Ukraine while Trump was President, and Trump threatened Putin if he did. Trump administration also mercilessly destroyed Russian mercenaries in Syria and did not play around with Russia there. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
DUI_Offender Posted October 16, 2024 Report Posted October 16, 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, User said: This is such a dumb left-wing talking point that has no basis in reality. This is reality. 2 hours ago, User said: Putin did not invade Ukraine while Trump was President, and Trump threatened Putin if he did. Everyone knows that Trump is lying. Trump never told Putin to "not invade Ukraine." Trump at this point, has no idea what he is talking about. However, feel free to link me to articles or persons that are impartial that can verify that trump said this to Putin. 2 hours ago, User said: Trump administration also mercilessly destroyed Russian mercenaries in Syria and did not play around with Russia there. Nice to know, and I am sure Trump had nothing to do with that situation. He ignored the fact that Putin was offering bounties on Taliban to kill US soldiers in Afghanistan at the same time, while Trump did nothing. You seem to be one of the only people incapable of understanding that Trump will end aid to the Ukraine the first day he gets into office, and will let Russia and Putin do as they please. Let's not forget that Trump was impeached for holding up aid that had been passed by congress, to the Ukraine to fight the Russians while they were arming and in some cases, going into Eastern Ukraine to provide weapons to pro-Russian seperatists. The reason? Trump wanted Zelenskyy to dig dirt on Biden's son. That is not exactly standing up to the Russians. Trump is a schoolgirl, waiting to meet a rock star, when he sees Putin. Edited October 16, 2024 by DUI_Offender Quote
User Posted October 16, 2024 Report Posted October 16, 2024 7 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: Everyone knows that Trump is lying. Trump never told Putin to "not invade Ukraine." Trump at this point, has no idea what he is talking about. However, feel free to link me to articles or persons that are impartial that can verify that trump said this to Putin. No, everyone doesn't know Trump is lying and the source of this is not just Trump saying it either. "Vindman wouldn’t disclose if Trump and Putin spoke about a renewed Ukrainian invasion, saying that was privileged information. But he did assert that warning Russia against escalating the war “was a regular topic.” Trump canceled a meeting with Putin at the G20 in 2018 over Russia shooting at and capturing Ukrainian sailors in the Kerch Strait. A former Trump administration official, granted anonymity to detail direct presidential-level discussions, said Trump in at least one call told Putin that Russia couldn’t wade deeper into Ukraine because he had approved the transfer of anti-tank missiles to Kyiv. “It was in the context of ‘you can’t do what you did with Obama,’” the official said, noting that the annexation of Crimea and the “little green men” in the Donbas happened on that administration’s watch." https://www.politico.com/newsletters/national-security-daily/2023/05/11/trump-used-to-talk-about-ukraine-invasion-with-putin-00096394 9 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: Nice to know, and I am sure Trump had nothing to do with that situation. He ignored the fact that Putin was offering bounties on Taliban to kill US soldiers in Afghanistan at the same time, while Trump did nothing. How many ignorant lies are you going to push here? There was never any real evidence Putin did that, he denied doing it, and it was later confirmed that there was never any real evidence of it happening. 22 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: You seem to be one of the only people incapable of understanding that Trump will end aid to the Ukraine the first day he gets into office, and will let Russia and Putin do as they please. There is nothing to suggest he will end aid and the current structure of aid goes beyond his first day. What powers does he have to stop aid on day one when he is to faithfully execute the laws including existing aid packages? You don't have any evidence of this and the claim is outlandishly extreme on its face. He never let Putin do as he pleased before this. 23 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: Let's not forget that Trump was impeached for holding up aid that had been passed by congress, to the Ukraine to fight the Russians while they were arming and in some cases, going into Eastern Ukraine to provide weapons to pro-Russian seperatists. The reason? Trump wanted Zelenskyy to dig dirt on Biden's son. That is not exactly standing up to the Russians. Trump is a schoolgirl, waiting to meet a rock star, when he sees Putin. Yeah, lets not forget Trump also provided more military aid to Ukraine than Obama was willing too... Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
Army Guy Posted October 16, 2024 Report Posted October 16, 2024 22 hours ago, User said: Oh crap... that was Army Guy. My bad. I apologize. His arguments here were even dumber than I thought, I thought it was you who said that it was so dumb at the time. Not dumb just beyond your comprehension, huge difference.... Russia has taken back huge swaths of territory from the Kursk district, along with making gains elsewhere...I provide a map , but i forgot you can't read maps...or don't want to look at them i can't tell..... What is retarded is you can't fathom all this change that your narrative is not worth the bandwidth it uses... DUI also makes some good comments about Trump and his reaction to Ukraine to which again brush those tidbits aside.......unless the media is lying, trump is not a fan of Ukraine, and statements he has made reinforces that...your not very good about doing the math or connecting the dots...like i said we will see if he gets elected...This winter is going to be a tough one for Ukraine... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
User Posted October 16, 2024 Report Posted October 16, 2024 33 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Not dumb just beyond your comprehension, huge difference.... Russia has taken back huge swaths of territory from the Kursk district, along with making gains elsewhere...I provide a map , but i forgot you can't read maps...or don't want to look at them i can't tell..... What is retarded is you can't fathom all this change that your narrative is not worth the bandwidth it uses... The depths of how far you will go to dishonestly engage here. You were making the absurd claim that Putin had all these forces in reserve somewhere and that you didn't know why he was not taking them out yet... Here we are almost 3 months later and Putin had to scrape up 50,000 men off the front lines to finally start taking back some land. You are the one ignoring things here, just like you always do. You made a stupid argument several months ago and now we see it play out for being as dumb as it was. 35 minutes ago, Army Guy said: DUI also makes some good comments about Trump and his reaction to Ukraine to which again brush those tidbits aside.......unless the media is lying, trump is not a fan of Ukraine, and statements he has made reinforces that...your not very good about doing the math or connecting the dots...like i said we will see if he gets elected...This winter is going to be a tough one for Ukraine... Name the good comments, name what I merely brushed aside. I went point by point with him, refuting the crap he was saying. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
DUI_Offender Posted October 16, 2024 Report Posted October 16, 2024 4 hours ago, User said: Yeah, lets not forget Trump also provided more military aid to Ukraine than Obama was willing too... LMAO Sure. You are not thinking this through. Just watch. The minute that Trump is elected, the Ukraine is completely screwed. Quote
User Posted October 16, 2024 Report Posted October 16, 2024 3 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: LMAO Sure. You are not thinking this through. Just watch. The minute that Trump is elected, the Ukraine is completely screwed. Once again, I have the facts. Obama admin did not authorize Javelin missiles, Trump did: https://www.dsca.mil/press-media/major-arms-sales/ukraine-javelin-missiles-and-command-launch-units "WASHINGTON, Mar. 1, 2018 - The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to Ukraine of Javelin Missiles and Javelin Command Launch Units (CLUs) for an estimated cost of $47 million. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale today." Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
DUI_Offender Posted October 16, 2024 Report Posted October 16, 2024 28 minutes ago, User said: Once again, I have the facts. Obama admin did not authorize Javelin missiles, Trump did: https://www.dsca.mil/press-media/major-arms-sales/ukraine-javelin-missiles-and-command-launch-units "WASHINGTON, Mar. 1, 2018 - The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to Ukraine of Javelin Missiles and Javelin Command Launch Units (CLUs) for an estimated cost of $47 million. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale today." You have so much to learn, young grasshopper. Quote
User Posted October 16, 2024 Report Posted October 16, 2024 15 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: You have so much to learn, young grasshopper. It certainly doesn't appear to be from you. I am the one educating you right now as you are pushing long-debunked, ignorant liberal talking points and other falsehoods. Do you know what you are saying is false or do you just keep repeating it because you don't care and you are a liar? Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
DUI_Offender Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 2 hours ago, User said: Once again, I have the facts. Obama admin did not authorize Javelin missiles, Trump did: https://www.dsca.mil/press-media/major-arms-sales/ukraine-javelin-missiles-and-command-launch-units "WASHINGTON, Mar. 1, 2018 - The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to Ukraine of Javelin Missiles and Javelin Command Launch Units (CLUs) for an estimated cost of $47 million. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale today." I do not care what Obama did or did not do. It's pretty much irrelevant, considering the Russia-Ukraine conflict was yet to be a full out war until 2022. From the time Russia annexed the Crimea in 2014 until the war started, Russians were funding the separatists groups in Donesk, and even training them in Russia. 1/3 of the population of the two Ukraine provinces that were experiencing civil unrest were Russian, while 2/3 were Ukrainian. Having said that, it is Trump's own words and actions from the time he became President, and especially since 2022 that give his true intentions away. His most ardent supporters in the GOP are all arguing that the US should stop funding Ukraine, even delaying aid to Ukraine. Trump's favourite media influences like Tucker Carlson and Elon Musk are actually rooting for Russia to win. Now it turns out that there is evidence that some of these figures have been bought off by Russian oligarchs to influence their opinion. And these people are the ones that Trump surrounds himself with. That is saying nothing of Trump siding with Putin on certain foreign policy issues, and alienating his closest allies (Germany, France, etc). I will not be able to convince you, so we will have to wait a year to see how things turn out, once Trump (or Vance) is President. Quote
User Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 1 hour ago, DUI_Offender said: I do not care what Obama did or did not do. The point was not about what Obama did or did not do. The point was what Trump did do, which you are ignoring now. Trump authorized the sale of more advanced anti-tank weapons. The only point of mentioning Obama was to contrast it so that you can see Trump did something. 1 hour ago, DUI_Offender said: considering the Russia-Ukraine conflict was yet to be a full out war until 2022. Yes... after Trump left office, as Trump threatened Putin and warned him. Again, you ignore this. 1 hour ago, DUI_Offender said: Trump's favourite media influences like Tucker Carlson and Elon Musk are actually rooting for Russia to win. Tucker Carlson is a clown show. I will not defend him, but Elon Musk? No where has he rooted for Russia to win. You just make crap up, you lie, you push false information, and then when you are called out you run away and throw more lies at the wall. 1 hour ago, DUI_Offender said: And these people are the ones that Trump surrounds himself with. That is saying nothing of Trump siding with Putin on certain foreign policy issues, and alienating his closest allies (Germany, France, etc). Like what? Trump was pushing those clowns to produce their own energy so they wouldn't be dependent on Russia. Trump was the one pushing those clowns to contribute their fair share to NATO. 1 hour ago, DUI_Offender said: I will not be able to convince you, so we will have to wait a year to see how things turn out, once Trump (or Vance) is President. Don't worry about trying to convince me, just start with being honest and admit you were wrong on the crap you were pushing. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
Army Guy Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 5 hours ago, User said: The depths of how far you will go to dishonestly engage here. You were making the absurd claim that Putin had all these forces in reserve somewhere and that you didn't know why he was not taking them out yet... Here we are almost 3 months later and Putin had to scrape up 50,000 men off the front lines to finally start taking back some land. You are the one ignoring things here, just like you always do. You made a stupid argument several months ago and now we see it play out for being as dumb as it was. Name the good comments, name what I merely brushed aside. I went point by point with him, refuting the crap he was saying. Yes i'm the one being dishonest here, I'll assume you can't use goggle, stop eating your crayons and do some of your owe research... well considering Russia has 470,000 troops fighting in Ukraine right now... https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/russia-army-ukraine-war-1.7122808#:~:text="By the beginning of 2024%2C the Russian Operational,Forces in the occupied territories comprised 470%2C000 troops." And the total number of Russian troops 1.5 Million , SO i ask you think he has got a few troops stashed around Russia, the numbers say so... My guess is he has plenty of extra soldiers....Note these are active duty no mention of reserve forces...these numbers are going to go higher....still think there is no spare troops hanging around...I forgot you don't like facts....and I'm being absurd... https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2024-09-16/putin-orders-russian-army-to-grow-by-180-000-soldiers-to-become-1-5-million-strong#:~:text=In a decree published on the Kremlin's website%2C,he said 1.5 million should be active servicemen. Since we started this conversation Russian as enlisted about 300,000 new soldiers...the real question would be why did Russia wait so long to deploy troops into the region....and yet today Ukraine is losing it's grip on the kunst region....I've asked you a hundred times how many ukrainian soldiers have died in Kurst, and how much equipment did the lose....the math should tell you if it was worth the cost.... Kurst pocket is getting smaller, on good days, Russian troops still advancing else where, Ukraine has made some more smaller gains...Without MORE NATO aid Ukraine will continue to loss ground , men and equipment... Not that I'm a DUI cheerleader, but i give him kudos for understanding this topic you two have been talking to...and How things may change IF trump wins the election...you refuted nothing just deny everything as dumb arguments...thats your style if i did not know any better i'd think you were Moonboxs twin...he does the same thing... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
DUI_Offender Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 1 hour ago, User said: The point was not about what Obama did or did not do. The point was what Trump did do, which you are ignoring now. Trump authorized the sale of more advanced anti-tank weapons. The only point of mentioning Obama was to contrast it so that you can see Trump did something. Yes... after Trump left office, as Trump threatened Putin and warned him. Again, you ignore this. Tucker Carlson is a clown show. I will not defend him, but Elon Musk? No where has he rooted for Russia to win. You just make crap up, you lie, you push false information, and then when you are called out you run away and throw more lies at the wall. Like what? Trump was pushing those clowns to produce their own energy so they wouldn't be dependent on Russia. Trump was the one pushing those clowns to contribute their fair share to NATO. Don't worry about trying to convince me, just start with being honest and admit you were wrong on the crap you were pushing. I took you off Ignore a week ago, and you are already too annoying to deal with. Back on ignore you go. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 8 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: I took you off Ignore a week ago, and you are already too annoying to deal with. Back on ignore you go. Ignore is a great way to refine our discussion groups. The user in question seemed to be annoyed at me recently because I didn't recall any interactions with them. I found that odd, but then again I now have this person on my radar. I asked them to express their ideas on how different media are/should be treated within our legal framework so that we could start a discussion. I went back several times but there was no reply. I honestly don't understand most posters here - what drives them, what brings them here, what brings them to response to me or others. The simplest answer is neuroses but doesn't explain it all. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
User Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 11 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: I took you off Ignore a week ago, and you are already too annoying to deal with. Back on ignore you go. Run away coward. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
User Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 12 hours ago, Army Guy said: And the total number of Russian troops 1.5 Million Come on. You were in the military. 1.5 Million in the armed forces is not a total number of "troops" as in what is a combat line unit. That comprises all their forces from Navy, Air Force, Army... and a large chunk of those forces serve in non-combat roles just like any other modern military force with logistics, admin, etc... You are still being dishonest in that you were clearly arguing that Putin was just sitting on some vast military capability and who knew why he was not just sending them down to squash Kursk. Like, he was some evil genius just waiting for the big surprise as if Ukraine stood no chance. Here we are almost 3 months later and the reality is that he had to spend all this time scraping units together off the existing fronts to try to push Ukraine out. 12 hours ago, Army Guy said: Since we started this conversation Russian as enlisted about 300,000 new soldiers... Since we started this conversation, how many have they lost? 12 hours ago, Army Guy said: I've asked you a hundred times how many ukrainian soldiers have died in Kurst, and how much equipment did the lose....the math should tell you if it was worth the cost.... I am not a General in their army, you ask these questions rhetorically. If you have an argument, you make it. What I do know is the reports are saying Russia had to put together 50,000 troops to go up there and Ukraine used what, around 10K? You tell me, how many troops has Russia had to lose in taking back what they have there? Your whole schtick here is about land, it appears taking Kursk was worth it as they gained a huge swath of territory compared to what Russia has been taking. They also got prisoner exchanges out of it. 12 hours ago, Army Guy said: Not that I'm a DUI cheerleader, but i give him kudos for understanding this topic you two have been talking to... I noticed you avoided my questions. You just keep pushing this vague support for him when he was pushing outright falsehoods on long debunked crap like the Taliban bounties or how he was ignorant of Trumps threats to Putin... 2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: Ignore is a great way to refine our discussion groups. The user in question seemed to be annoyed at me recently because I didn't recall any interactions with them. Annoyed? No. More like shocked at how dishonest you are. You are a pr1ck who goes around telling people to ignore me then you have the gall to act like you don't remember any of it. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
Army Guy Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 4 hours ago, User said: Come on. You were in the military. 1.5 Million in the armed forces is not a total number of "troops" as in what is a combat line unit. That comprises all their forces from Navy, Air Force, Army... and a large chunk of those forces serve in non-combat roles just like any other modern military force with logistics, admin, etc... You are still being dishonest in that you were clearly arguing that Putin was just sitting on some vast military capability and who knew why he was not just sending them down to squash Kursk. Like, he was some evil genius just waiting for the big surprise as if Ukraine stood no chance. Here we are almost 3 months later and the reality is that he had to spend all this time scraping units together off the existing fronts to try to push Ukraine out. Since we started this conversation, how many have they lost? I am not a General in their army, you ask these questions rhetorically. If you have an argument, you make it. What I do know is the reports are saying Russia had to put together 50,000 troops to go up there and Ukraine used what, around 10K? You tell me, how many troops has Russia had to lose in taking back what they have there? Your whole schtick here is about land, it appears taking Kursk was worth it as they gained a huge swath of territory compared to what Russia has been taking. They also got prisoner exchanges out of it. I noticed you avoided my questions. You just keep pushing this vague support for him when he was pushing outright falsehoods on long debunked crap like the Taliban bounties or how he was ignorant of Trumps threats to Putin... Annoyed? No. More like shocked at how dishonest you are. You are a pr1ck who goes around telling people to ignore me then you have the gall to act like you don't remember any of it. I get that 1.5 million is not just combat troops, i did put a note in there that those numbers do not include reserve troops, which add up to another 1 million, Russia is on the brink of becoming the 2 and largest military in the world, next to China....so it would be easy to imigine that there are other combat troops in Russia. not to mention it would not be out of the realm to use non combat troops in the Infantry role since russia has already done that with Navy troops for their aircraft carrier... Vast enough to make NATO nervous, and slow roll their support to Ukraine... The fact that russia did not even send any troops into the area for at least 2 months is telling...they were not that worried about it... You don't know that as fact this is opinion ...about what russia manpower figures are and where they were... 10 k , ukraine has reported lossing almost 25 k in losses in the last 3 months might want to check your numbers again.... for the entire country of ukraine russian losses are estimated at between 1000 and 1500 a day...what they are in the Kurst pocket i'm not sure can't find an exact number... I just showed you a map of the kursk pocket and Russia has already regained more than a 1/3 of it back...and continues to loss ground daily...the only thing Ukraine will get out of this is a temporary moral boost has i said already ..those troops that have been lost could have served a better use on their other fronts.... POW's wow do you think Russian are concerned about POW's they shot their own wounded...FFS Russia does not care about it's soldiers as we have seen over and over again....their lives mean jack shit to their chain of command... DUI comments about Trump concerning Ukraine are fact unless the media is lying...He has already made statements about cutting off aid, ending the war over night, so if he wins all this talk about Ukraine will be done, withdrawal of US support will mean one thing Ukraine will be left alone with only Europe support Ukraine will be forced into talks with Russia...and all of this fighting will be for nothing...Russia will take what it wants, And everyone will see NATO for what it is , Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
User Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 7 minutes ago, Army Guy said: The fact that russia did not even send any troops into the area for at least 2 months is telling...they were not that worried about it... You do not live in reality. They did not wait for 2 months. It took them almost 3 to scrape up 50K to start putting a dent in things there, they have been sending thousands of troops up before now. 8 minutes ago, Army Guy said: You don't know that as fact this is opinion ...about what russia manpower figures are and where they were... Oh great, back to the opinion game again. Fine, it is my opinion that Ukraine has vast reserves of giant cyclops men with laser beams that shoot out of their eye balls and at any moment they will vaporize all the Russian forces. 9 minutes ago, Army Guy said: 10 k , ukraine has reported lossing almost 25 k in losses in the last 3 months might want to check your numbers again.... Can you not read? I did not say they lost 10K there, I said that is about what they deployed. Where do you get they lost 25K men in Kursk, you know, the region we are talking about and I was talking about? Besides man, its just my opinion dude. You can't argue against that bruh. 10 minutes ago, Army Guy said: I just showed you a map of the kursk pocket and Russia has already regained more than a 1/3 of it back...and continues to loss ground daily...the only thing Ukraine will get out of this is a temporary moral boost has i said already ..those troops that have been lost could have served a better use on their other fronts.... Funny how that word temporary works. It has no meaning as we are in the 3rd month now of "temporary" and even with that dent Russia made with having to scrape together 50K troops, Ukraine reports a couple of days ago were that the lines were starting to stabilize. 12 minutes ago, Army Guy said: POW's wow do you think Russian are concerned about POW's they shot their own wounded...FFS Russia does not care about it's soldiers as we have seen over and over again....their lives mean jack shit to their chain of command... Ukraine cares about theirs. Funny how you are thinking about this from Russias perspective here and not Ukraines... 16 minutes ago, Army Guy said: DUI comments about Trump concerning Ukraine are fact unless the media is lying... Which comments are fact? Certainly not his dumb comments on Taliban bounties. Not his comments about Trump delivering more lethal weapons to Ukraine, certainly not his comments about Trump not threatening Putin to not mess with Ukraine.... 18 minutes ago, Army Guy said: He has already made statements about cutting off aid, ending the war over night, so if he wins all this talk about Ukraine will be done, withdrawal of US support will mean one thing Ukraine will be left alone with only Europe support Ukraine will be forced into talks with Russia...and all of this fighting will be for nothing...Russia will take what it wants, And everyone will see NATO for what it is , This was the comment DUI offered here to start this stupid discussion: "You must be joking. Trump is in Putin's back pocket, and if he wins the election, he will cut off all aid to the country. Trump is not "Bold and threatening" to Russia, considering he was never that way in his first Presidency. " Trump is not in Putin's back pocket. Trump has made no definitive plans for how he will end the war nor has he specifically said all aid would be cut off, nor do I think he has the power to do so with the current funding laws in place. The current aid package will continue to be spent until it runs out which might be into 2025. Trump has been bold and threatening to Russia, I already pointed out how in this thread. He was also directly bold and threatening in his first Presidency. So, no, DUI's comments were not facts or accurate and I already spent several threads calling all this out. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
BeaverFever Posted October 19, 2024 Report Posted October 19, 2024 What I find hilarious is that on a different thread, the same people who are saying here that Trump is the toughest on Putin and Dems are weak, are on a different thread s saying the Dems are bloodthirsty warmongers and that Trump’s friendly relationship with Putin will bring peace in our time These fukin brainwashed hacks will say anything. 1 Quote
BeaverFever Posted October 19, 2024 Report Posted October 19, 2024 On 10/15/2024 at 6:14 AM, Nationalist said: While you "simp" for more war and death. Not your death of course. Gee...who's the shameless one? Meanwhile in reality you’re simping for North Korea who has now sent 11,000 troops to Russia some of whom have already defected. It’s amazing how you can’t understand that your support for Russia is support for the China, Russia, Iran and North Korea (CRINK)alliance and by extension Hamas and Hezbollah. You think you can pick and choose which CRINK members you root for but it doesn’t work that way, a victory for one is a victory for all. 1 Quote
SkyHigh Posted October 19, 2024 Report Posted October 19, 2024 On 10/17/2024 at 8:03 AM, Michael Hardner said: Ignore is a great way to refine our discussion groups. The user in question seemed to be annoyed at me recently because I didn't recall any interactions with them. I found that odd, but then again I now have this person on my radar. I asked them to express their ideas on how different media are/should be treated within our legal framework so that we could start a discussion. I went back several times but there was no reply. I honestly don't understand most posters here - what drives them, what brings them here, what brings them to response to me or others. The simplest answer is neuroses but doesn't explain it all. Many here have very thin skin. DUI put me on ignore for simply saying that people that drive drunk, should lose their privilege to operate a motor vehicle, which was a comment in response to him bragging about the fact that he hadn't drove drunk in a whole year, and implied this was something we should celebrate. He didn't say he had stopped drinking, just that he was nice enough not to get behind the wheel, well at least for now. 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted October 19, 2024 Report Posted October 19, 2024 2 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Meanwhile in reality you’re simping for North Korea who has now sent 11,000 troops to Russia some of whom have already defected. It’s amazing how you can’t understand that your support for Russia is support for the China, Russia, Iran and North Korea (CRINK)alliance and by extension Hamas and Hezbollah. You think you can pick and choose which CRINK members you root for but it doesn’t work that way, a victory for one is a victory for all. I don't "support" any of them Dimwitty. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
User Posted October 19, 2024 Report Posted October 19, 2024 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: I don't "support" any of them Dimwitty. You said pissing into the wind... Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
BeaverFever Posted October 19, 2024 Report Posted October 19, 2024 4 hours ago, Nationalist said: I don't "support" any of them Dimwitty. You root for Russia and help disseminate its propaganda. That’s support. Quote
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