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14 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

I'm astounded of your lack of history. In 1979, when the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan, the country had a total population of 13 million. Despite having less than 6% of the population of the Soviet Union at the time, they managed to eventually drive out the Soviet occupiers from their country.

Ukraine had 43 million people when Russia invaded. Russia has just under 160 million, a far cry from the 240 million that they had in the Soviet Union. Both sides are taking a beating, yes. However, you ahve been saying for months that the Ukraine is going to run out of able bodied men, and that is simply not happening.

If anything, Russia will be the first to blink, considering that the country is a few months away from being forced to draw middle class young men from more affluent Russian cities like St. Petersberg and Moscow. Having said that, it may come down to the US election to determine what happens to Ukraine. If Harris wins, I believe the Ukrainians will emerge victorious. If Trump wins, he will sellout Ukraine, and they will be forced to surrender large amounts of territory.

Your the last guy that should be spouting anything about history, every time you do you get embarrassed. 

Ukraine has said many times over and over again it is having a manpower shortage, having problems with major recruitment and desertions...Again you are full of sh1T, do some research...

Do you really think Russia is going to be the first to blink they have been throwing men at the ukrainians for more than 6 months now with no sign of slowing down "they don't care how many die attempting to take their objectives" what you fail to take into account is Ukraine is also taking heavy causalities in defending against these attacks their forces are exhausted and weakend, Russia is gaining more ground than before, because of it...

Even with a harris victory unless NATO drastically increases their support Ukraine will not be victorious, it can barely hold ground right now...South Korean is now talking about providing direct military support to Ukraine, with the latest in modern equipment...at least compared to the second hand stuff NATO is suppling...hopefully that comes soon...

And i do agree with your trump assessment, if he wins Ukraine will be in a world of hurt...Now User thinks becasue i agree with you on this one talking point somehow we are some how best friends, he gets very jealous when you flirt with other men... 

We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.

Posted
7 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

Your the last guy that should be spouting anything about history, every time you do you get embarrassed. 

My knowledge of actual history is far far above your knowledge of history.  Having said that, I will give you credit.  Your knowledge of imaginary or false history is greater than mine. 

7 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

Ukraine has said many times over and over again it is having a manpower shortage, having problems with major recruitment and desertions...Again you are full of sh1T, do some research...

Both countries are having manpower shortages.  That has been obvious for months. You have reading comprehension issues. I said that Ukraine is not in danger of running out of men in the foreseeable future. This is the problem with your whole argument. You are always saying the exact same thing "Ukraine is running out of able bodies," while ignoring the incredible toll it is having on the Russians. 

7 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

Do you really think Russia is going to be the first to blink they have been throwing men at the ukrainians for more than 6 months now with no sign of slowing down

Yes.

7 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

Even with a harris victory unless NATO drastically increases their support Ukraine will not be victorious, it can barely hold ground right now...South Korean is now talking about providing direct military support to Ukraine, with the latest in modern equipment...at least compared to the second hand stuff NATO is suppling...hopefully that comes soon...

As they should be. With North Korean involvement, this will be a massive incentive for counties like Korea, Japan, and Europe to give more aid to the Ukraine, or even send in troops to offset the personnel that is arriving from North Korea.

7 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

And i do agree with your trump assessment, if he wins Ukraine will be in a world of hurt...Now User thinks becasue i agree with you on this one talking point somehow we are some how best friends, he gets very jealous when you flirt with other men... 

Now now, Private Pyle. No need to make this personal...

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4 hours ago, User said:

LOL, sure... basic math is now a loophole. 

Your argument is not one of what the causes of most deaths. I am not here arguing against the obvious. 

The argument was on how effective it is. If you have to fire 5 million shells to kill one person, even if that results in more deaths, that is hardly effective. 

So, how many other ways do you want to obfuscate here to avoid responding to what you were actually arguing?

 

I see you using DUI tactics now and just pull shit from your ass when it suits you...i see your into doing research as much as he is...which is none...5 million shells is one example of that . when facts on the ground state around 10,000 a day...seeing on how your the math expert how many is that in one month....i can tell you it's not 5 million....

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Russia’s rate of artillery fires has dropped from 45,000 to 80,000 shells per day during the height of the 2022 Ukrainian summer offensive down to just 10,000 to 15,000 shells at the beginning of fall 2023 according to White. 

Meet the expert that thought Ukraine could beat Russia in an attritional war

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Officials say Russia is currently firing around 10,000 shells a day, compared to just 2,000 a day from the Ukrainian side. The ratio is worse in some places along the 600-mile front, according to a European intelligence official.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/10/politics/russia-artillery-shell-production-us-europe-ukraine/index.html#:~:text=Officials say Russia is currently firing around 10%2C000,just 2%2C000 a day from the Ukrainian side.

 

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Meanwhile, Russia recently took the Ukrainian city of Avdiivka and is widely seen as having the initiative on the battlefield. Ukraine is struggling not just with ammunition but also growing manpower shortages on the front lines.

Off the same source, this one is for you DUI....

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But military analysts say the war will likely be won or lost based on who fires the most artillery shells.

“The number one issue that we’re watching right now is the munitions,” the NATO official said. “It’s those artillery shells, because that’s where Russia really [is] mounting a significant production advantage and mounting a significant advantage on the battlefield.”

 

 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

I see you using DUI tactics now and just pull shit from your ass when it suits you...i see your into doing research as much as he is...which is none...5 million shells is one example of that . when facts on the ground state around 10,000 a day...seeing on how your the math expert how many is that in one month....i can tell you it's not 5 million....

So, continue to obfuscate is your plan. 

Do you really think I believe it took 5 million shells to kill 1 Ukrainian or is it more obvious I as using that figure to make a point about your bad argument on how "effective" artillery is when you are doing nothing more than using the % killed. 

That was not a question, that is just a statement about how fundamentally dishonest you are willing to be here. 

 

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Posted
5 hours ago, User said:

I just did, I mockingly said we would both be long dead. That was the point. You keep bragging about how much land they take (except when Ukraine takes Russian land, then that is REALLY REALLY bad). 

Yeah, we all know that Russia keeps taking small amounts of land... but at what cost? You seem to think Russia can just do this forever while it is only Ukraine that can't. When it is Russia expending vastly more resources to make those small gains. 

In no reality would you EVER say this kind of warfare was effective if it were Canada sending Canadian soldiers into a meat grinder to take land like this. 

 

 

I point out to you and others on here that things are not going very well for the ukrainian ground game, and you seem to think i'm bragging...when you and your gang refuse to admit that Ukraine is losing ground every day....Yes Ukraine Kurst campaign took some russian ground, and i said those resources would be better used on the main front lines for which you lost your mind...and yet today Russia has made gains on the kurst pocket, and it has cost Ukraine valuable men and equipment with very little in return except maybe a temporary gain in moral...you should do some research and find out what it cost Ukraine to keep the kurst pocket todate....

Small amounts of land yes over 450 sq KM is a small chunk of land according to you....Cost yes lets talk about cost, do you think Russia is concerned about the cost, we have been talking about the cost things for more than 4 months now, and yet the russian still continue to throw manpower away like they were smarties...almost like the only one concerned about cost is you....What you also fail to take into consideration , while yes Russia losses are heavy, but there is a cost to Ukrainians as well....and while losses are considerable less, they are on scale heavy losses as well....

You have not read any of my posts have you, everyone that talks about this conflict has commented on Russian tactics, as if it was a surprise , Russia has a history with doing the same thing, throwing manpower away as if they have no value... Myself included... to be clear i don't like the tactics they are using, they are wasteful not only in manpower but also equipment...But regardless of what i say, Russia is content with these tactics, and the results they have achieved.

You sound like this is the first time you've heard about these tactics , Russia did not invent them they have been used across the globe, in many different conflicts but most notably WWI is full of examples of these tactics being deployed....including US, Canada, UK, France, Germany...to mention a few... 

We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.

Posted
25 minutes ago, User said:

So, continue to obfuscate is your plan. 

Do you really think I believe it took 5 million shells to kill 1 Ukrainian or is it more obvious I as using that figure to make a point about your bad argument on how "effective" artillery is when you are doing nothing more than using the % killed. 

That was not a question, that is just a statement about how fundamentally dishonest you are willing to be here. 

 

From what you have displayed so far, YA...every other media source i have found clearly state that Russian arty is effective, Ukrainian solider have stated Russian arty is effective, i have provided you with dozens of sources that also state that Russian arty is effective....BUT becasue it does fit in with your narrative you have dismissed them all...Maybe you can provide a source that proves your point...i mean we are not the only ones reading this post, step the F888 up and provide a source that proves your point...instead of just saying i'm being dishonest...prove it ...

I get it you and moonbeam/ DUI went to the same debating school, where sources are not a thing, just uneducated rhetoric...

We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.

Posted
48 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

My knowledge of actual history is far far above your knowledge of history.  Having said that, I will give you credit.  Your knowledge of imaginary or false history is greater than mine. 

Both countries are having manpower shortages. 

That has been obvious for months. You have reading comprehension issues. I said that Ukraine is not in danger of running out of men in the foreseeable future. This is the problem with your whole argument. You are always saying the exact same thing "Ukraine is running out of able bodies," while ignoring the incredible toll it is having on the Russians. 

Yes.

As they should be. With North Korean involvement, this will be a massive incentive for counties like Korea, Japan, and Europe to give more aid to the Ukraine, or even send in troops to offset the personnel that is arriving from North Korea.

Now now, Private Pyle. No need to make this personal...

Yes you have proven that on many posts, your credibility here is shot, you resort to lies and slander....nothing more...

I have to ask, what do you think manpower shortages means....other than the obvious , just what does it mean when Ukraine states most of the units are far below their authorized manpower numbers, they are having issues with recruiting, desertions, NATO has only provided to give Ukraine 4 out of the 14 Brigades worth of equipment and training men...it has promised...the fact Ukraine has readjusted it's recruitment ages and needs to recruit another 160,000 men , does any of that speak to you...

Yes the incredible toll this conflict is having on the Russians...That is in every media page front and center what would you like to talk about it.....what you refuse to bring up is the toll the Ukrainians are paying

I don't think you'll see South Korea sending in troops...but you will see them provide military equipment, like what has been talked about like the latest main battle tanks, arty systems, MLRS systems and air defense....in much larger quantities than NATO is currently sending... instead of NATO hand me downs...

We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.

Posted
41 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

I point out to you and others on here that things are not going very well for the ukrainian ground game, and you seem to think i'm bragging...

No, you boast about the amount of land, over and over and over again. That is literally bragging. 

43 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

when you and your gang refuse to admit that Ukraine is losing ground every day

I have never refused to admit that Ukraine is losing ground. More dishonesty from you. 

44 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

you should do some research and find out what it cost Ukraine to keep the kurst pocket todate....

It is amazing how you almost always frame everything as good for Russia and bad for Ukraine, as if there was no cost to Russia having to pull 50,000 troops off the front and no cost to how many died and how many resources have been used to retake some of that land. 

Russis is doing so great... er, wait, *this just in!* they are doing so great they are now deploying North Koreans to Kursk. Hey, whatever happened to all those Russian troops just sitting around twiddling their thumbs you claimed Putin has and he was just waiting for the right moment to crush this Ukraining incursion? Here we are, months later, and they still have not retaken it and are having to send in North Koreans. 

Guess what else you are ignoring? The experts saying the land Russia has retaken was the easiest and it will only get more difficult for them from here. Ukraine has a strategic advantage operating in Russia because they don't have to defend anything there or the cities there, they can move, relocate, and focus where they want to on their defense. 

50 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

Small amounts of land yes over 450 sq KM is a small chunk of land according to you...

According to math. You know, when I was in the Marines, we had a remote "university" for Marines where we could get study materials sent to us and learn about things like math. I guess they didn't do that in Canada for you. 

You see, I already explained how 450 sq KM is less than 1/100 of a percent of Ukrainian land, even factoring in what has already been taken. 

57 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

and yet the russian still continue to throw manpower away like they were smarties...

They can't. They won't. History proves this. The fact that they are having to scrounge people up still, conscripts, and bring in North Koreans all prove otherwise. 

Russia doesn't have the manpower to keep up their offensive and defend their borders. Oh gee, how did Ukraine get into Kursk region?
 

1 hour ago, Army Guy said:

Russia is content with these tactics, and the results they have achieved.

This is like saying a poor homeless man is content with the food at the local soup kitchen. No, he doesn't have much other choice. 

Russia tried to take Ukraine at the outset of the war, they pushed on multiple fronts and they got their asses kicked, they are relegated to nothing more than this style of warfare, this certainly was not their plan at the outset, and as they have to deplete their armor stockpiles, wear out all their artillery, and scrounge up drones from Iran... this is what they are left with. 

 

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Army Guy said:

I get it you and moonbeam/ DUI went to the same debating school, where sources are not a thing, just uneducated rhetoric...

Uneducated rhetoric?

Sure dude. Keep obfuscating. Keep playing dumb. You are not even bothering to respond to what I said now. 

The comical part is that when you wanted to be a troll to me not that long ago you were on here ignorantly singing DUI's praise. 

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Posted
7 minutes ago, User said:

No, you boast about the amount of land, over and over and over again. That is literally bragging. 

I have never refused to admit that Ukraine is losing ground. More dishonesty from you. 

It is amazing how you almost always frame everything as good for Russia and bad for Ukraine, as if there was no cost to Russia having to pull 50,000 troops off the front and no cost to how many died and how many resources have been used to retake some of that land. 

Russis is doing so great... er, wait, *this just in!* they are doing so great they are now deploying North Koreans to Kursk. Hey, whatever happened to all those Russian troops just sitting around twiddling their thumbs you claimed Putin has and he was just waiting for the right moment to crush this Ukraining incursion? Here we are, months later, and they still have not retaken it and are having to send in North Koreans. 

Guess what else you are ignoring? The experts saying the land Russia has retaken was the easiest and it will only get more difficult for them from here. Ukraine has a strategic advantage operating in Russia because they don't have to defend anything there or the cities there, they can move, relocate, and focus where they want to on their defense. 

According to math. You know, when I was in the Marines, we had a remote "university" for Marines where we could get study materials sent to us and learn about things like math. I guess they didn't do that in Canada for you. 

You see, I already explained how 450 sq KM is less than 1/100 of a percent of Ukrainian land, even factoring in what has already been taken. 

They can't. They won't. History proves this. The fact that they are having to scrounge people up still, conscripts, and bring in North Koreans all prove otherwise. 

Russia doesn't have the manpower to keep up their offensive and defend their borders. Oh gee, how did Ukraine get into Kursk region?
 

This is like saying a poor homeless man is content with the food at the local soup kitchen. No, he doesn't have much other choice. 

Russia tried to take Ukraine at the outset of the war, they pushed on multiple fronts and they got their asses kicked, they are relegated to nothing more than this style of warfare, this certainly was not their plan at the outset, and as they have to deplete their armor stockpiles, wear out all their artillery, and scrounge up drones from Iran... this is what they are left with. 

 

No you lteral brushed it aside and said they have gained mere meters...that 450 Sq kms was in the month of oct alone...with gains a little less than that in Sept....and while these gains are recent they talk to the state of the Ukrainian defense lines...which are growing weaker...

You should think about going back to the marine university...

Seeing how Russia occupies more than 18 % of Ukraine already....and making gains every day, every little bit gained today is going to have to be regained back by Ukrainian military....not to mention all of this gains have been basically reduced to ruble...with very little of value left behind...

NK have not even made the battle fields yet, so not even worth the mention....hopefully NATO grows some balls and counters this somehow...i would not bet on it ...

Like i said before we will have to wait on the Kursk campaign , but right now russia has made some large gains there already....with more to follow...Ukraine is going to have reinforce the area or continue to lose more ground...

And Ukraine is in the same boat, NATO has slow rolled support most of the donated equipment is destroyed or in repairs....with most of it nothing more than hand me downs....Maybe South Korea will save the day with its contributions....

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Posted
13 minutes ago, User said:

Uneducated rhetoric?

Sure dude. Keep obfuscating. Keep playing dumb. You are not even bothering to respond to what I said now. 

The comical part is that when you wanted to be a troll to me not that long ago you were on here ignorantly singing DUI's praise. 

I can see your time in Marine University was not wasted....you can read...

What is it with your love affair with DUI...

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Posted
9 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

What is it with your love affair with DUI...

You were the one singing his praises when you wanted to troll me. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, DUI_Offender said:

Dear America,

Please don;t elect this fool.

Sincerely,

Every country in the World except Russia.

Once again, his point has always been, had he been President, Putin never would have invaded to begin with. 

Fact check: True. 

Trump gave Ukraine more lethal weaponry than Obama, Trump threatened Putin. 

 

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Posted
2 hours ago, User said:

Once again, his point has always been, had he been President, Putin never would have invaded to begin with. 

Fact check: True. 

Trump gave Ukraine more lethal weaponry than Obama, Trump threatened Putin. 

 

Stop simping for Trump. The man is a pathological liar. What the hell he "meant to say" is a futile endeavor. No one can be certain what he "meant to say", and the truthfulness of what he says is even less certain. 

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF12040

Trump... didn't give all that much more aid/year than Obama did, some years he even gave less aid. Most of that wasn't even Trumps decision, he just didn't veto what congress approved. The only pro Ukraine thing I've learned about that trump was personally involved in was he allowed Ukraine to buy some javelins from the US that Obama had declined to give to Ukraine. There's also the outright bribery crime he committed by trying to withhold aid for Ukraine congress had approved unless they agreed to slander Biden. 

A more concerning issue regarding trump and Russia, is that, as is publicly acknowledged via the Mueller report, Trump's Son and Son in Law, with Trump's knowledge and approval, met with Russian Nationals to discuss what Russia could do to help get Trump elected. You'd think that would have been a crime, but since they never officially agreed to anything it's somehow not, although Trump later suggested Russia choose to do some of those things they discussed in one of his speeches. 

That should be all the knowledge you need to know that Trump can't be trusted not to cozy up to Russia for his own benefit. Why any intelligent individual would want such an openly corrupt individual to lead their country boggles my mind. The man idolizes mob bosses and emulates them in his way of life, encouraging his subordinates to commit crimes for him without actively ordering them to do so, many of such subordinates having been prosecuted for said crimes. The man is a proven rapist convicted in a civil trial. The man brags about cheating hard working Americans out of their wages by refusing to pay them. The man has lost countless lawsuits filed against him, many for outright fraudulent business practices. The man suggested his supporters overthrow the election and caused a riot to attack Congress. The man tried to convince governors to lie about votes to get him elected. The man tried to replace electors in states he lost with fake electors who'd vote for him instead despite their states voting for Biden. The man took home classified documents and openly bragged about them and showed them to foreign agents, than later lied about returning them after asked to do so. Any one of these things should disqualify him, and the list goes on and on. If this is the best candidate the Republican party can produce, it does not deserve to exist as a political entity.

Posted
6 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

 

I can't believe there are people actually foolish to believe this. Trump idolises Putin like a small child looking up to a professional athlete.

 

Believe it? 

I have posted the ironclad proof to back it up. 

The only question is why are you so dishonest that you keep lying about this. 

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Posted (edited)
On 10/16/2024 at 10:06 AM, User said:

Trump administration also mercilessly destroyed Russian mercenaries in Syria and did not play around with Russia there. 

 

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/trump-s-syria-pullout-aiding-russia-turkey-when-america-stopped-ncna1070551

How do you rationalize Trump pulling out of Syria with your belief of him curtailing Russian expansionism? All evidence shows Trump has no interest in resisting Russian Expansionism. Your ironclad proof is non-existant.

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Posted
8 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

I can't believe there are people actually foolish to believe this. Trump idolises Putin like a small child looking up to a professional athlete.

The relationship is probably more like this.

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It needs to be said Trump isn't the first Republican who fell for Putin's charms.

A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

Posted
2 hours ago, User said:

Believe it? 

I have posted the ironclad proof to back it up. 

The only question is why are you so dishonest that you keep lying about this. 

You really are a numbskull...

Just wait until trump gets in office. He will sellout the Ukrainians so fast, that it will make your head spin.

Posted (edited)

Lol...are you all still arguing this? I see now that there's discord in war-ville because of Trump. Hilarious. 

Half the world is debating how a peace plan should be formed. That includes Ukraine and Russia. 

I hope peace can be reached soon as it would be nice if there were some Ukrainian men left afterwards.

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Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

Posted
12 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

You really are a numbskull...

Just wait until trump gets in office. He will sellout the Ukrainians so fast, that it will make your head spin.

This has literally nothing to do with the factual claim that Trump did threaten Putin while Trump was President. 

Instead of owning up to your continued lies, you just change the subject. 

13 hours ago, Videospirit said:

How do you rationalize Trump pulling out of Syria with your belief of him curtailing Russian expansionism? All evidence shows Trump has no interest in resisting Russian Expansionism. Your ironclad proof is non-existant.

I don't have to rationalize anything. It is a simple fact that Trump threatened Putin on Ukraine and he provided more lethal military arms sales to Ukraine. 

Note: Putin did not invade Ukraine while Trump was President. 

 

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Posted
2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

I hope peace can be reached soon as it would be nice if there were some Ukrainian men left afterwards.

Lol...are you all still dishonestly saying this?

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Posted
33 minutes ago, User said:

Lol...are you all still dishonestly saying this?

Yup.

What? You don't think peace would be a good thing?

Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

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