User Posted October 21, 2024 Report Posted October 21, 2024 4 hours ago, Nationalist said: My notion of peace is a halt to the fighting. LOL, you speak in vague generalities like this because that halt to the fighting can be a Russian victory. You know how else you have peace? If Russia had never invaded. If Russia never backed a separatist war in the Donbas and sent in their military to back it. Could have had peace before all that too. You don't want peace or a halt to the fighting, you want Russia to win. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
Nationalist Posted October 21, 2024 Report Posted October 21, 2024 (edited) 9 hours ago, User said: LOL, you speak in vague generalities like this because that halt to the fighting can be a Russian victory. You know how else you have peace? If Russia had never invaded. If Russia never backed a separatist war in the Donbas and sent in their military to back it. Could have had peace before all that too. You don't want peace or a halt to the fighting, you want Russia to win. No. I just want this war to end. You want to insist I'm some sort of Russian agent...which is truly comical. 9 hours ago, Videospirit said: If you rooted for the truth you wouldn't be spreading propaganda completely out of touch with the truth like "Russia invaded to give the citizens self determination". You're either a compulsive liar or are fully committed to doing everything you can to aid Russia's narrative without any concern for how truthful that narrative is(Which seems more plausible than you just being a completely arbitrary compulsive liar since why the hell would you even be on this forum if you were). Either way you do not root for truth in any way whatsoever. Enjoy your war...from your armchair. Edited October 21, 2024 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
User Posted October 21, 2024 Report Posted October 21, 2024 22 minutes ago, Nationalist said: No. I just want this war to end. You want to insist I'm some sort of Russian agent...which is truly comical. Ah yes, you can't actually argue the facts, so you make up something absurd I never said. I never called you a Russian agent. No, you don't just want this war to end. As we have pointed out to you many many times, there are a lot of ways for the war to end, the way you want it to end is in Russias favor. 25 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Enjoy your war...from your armchair. The war you supported for Russia. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
Nationalist Posted October 21, 2024 Report Posted October 21, 2024 33 minutes ago, User said: Ah yes, you can't actually argue the facts, so you make up something absurd I never said. I never called you a Russian agent. No, you don't just want this war to end. As we have pointed out to you many many times, there are a lot of ways for the war to end, the way you want it to end is in Russias favor. The war you supported for Russia. Lol...so stupid. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
DUI_Offender Posted October 21, 2024 Report Posted October 21, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: No. I just want this war to end. You want to insist I'm some sort of Russian agent...which is truly comical. Enjoy your war...from your armchair. You have made statements in the past, where you have indicated that you are rooting for Russia to win. You also have gone on about Zelenskyy being a "TV comedian" trying to swindle the West, when he is helping his nation fight for survival. You have repeatedly amplified ridiculous arguments, stating the Ukraine "started: the war, or that the Ukraine is full of "Nazi battalions." The fact that Iran, China, and North Korea are assisting Russia with it's efforts to help Russia, should be all the evidence one needs to be sympathetic to Ukraine. However, continue to blame NATO, and defend America's enemies... Edited October 21, 2024 by DUI_Offender Quote
Nationalist Posted October 21, 2024 Report Posted October 21, 2024 3 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: You have made statements in the past, where you have indicated that you are rooting for Russia to win. You also have gone on about Zelenskyy being a "TV comedian" trying to swindle the West, when he is helping his nation fight for survival. You have repeatedly amplified ridiculous arguments, stating the Ukraine "started: the war, or that the Ukraine is full of "Nazi battalions." I don't think comic-boy is swindling the west. I think he's swindling his own people. The west appears quite happy watching him press his skeleton crew on to death. Their goal is not the defense or recapture of a quarter of Ukraine. It's the depletion of Russian military. The Ukrainian soldiers are simply a tool for them. Here's the great hopey-changey lord himself in 2016. "As regards the two-year-old conflict between Ukraine and Russia, the president said Ukraine is a core interest for Moscow, in a way that it is not for the United States. He noted that, since Ukraine does not belong to NATO, it is vulnerable to Russian military domination, and that “we have to be very clear about what our core interests are and what we are willing to go to war for.” https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-obama-doctrine-and-ukraine/?origin=serp_auto As for the Azovs.. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=meWM4lChqy4 https://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/canadian-officials-who-met-with-ukrainian-unit-linked-to-neo-nazis-feared-exposure-by-news-media-documents?origin=serp_auto Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
DUI_Offender Posted October 21, 2024 Report Posted October 21, 2024 44 minutes ago, Nationalist said: I don't think comic-boy is swindling the west. Case in point. Imagine calling a person, who courageously is doing everything to help not only defend his country, but to try and do whatever it takes to appeal to allied countries to help, only to be called "comic boy." Then again, were you not the one who called Winston Churchill, the "true Nazi" and spoke highly of Adolf Hitler? 44 minutes ago, Nationalist said: I think he's swindling his own people. I rest my case... 44 minutes ago, Nationalist said: As for the Azovs.. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=meWM4lChqy4 https://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/canadian-officials-who-met-with-ukrainian-unit-linked-to-neo-nazis-feared-exposure-by-news-media-documents?origin=serp_auto So what? Nearly every military has a small percentage of oddballs. Ever hear of the Somali Affair (1993), when there was a Canadian neo-Nazi regiment sent to Somalia, and they ended up torturing and killing local Somali's? That type of thing sadly happens everywhere. It does not mean that the entire country is filled with Nazis. Quote
Nationalist Posted October 21, 2024 Report Posted October 21, 2024 1 minute ago, DUI_Offender said: Case in point. Imagine calling a person, who courageously is doing everything to help not only defend his country, but to try and do whatever it takes to appeal to allied countries to help, only to be called "comic boy." Then again, were you not the one who called Winston Churchill, the "true Nazi" and spoke highly of Adolf Hitler? I rest my case... So what? Nearly every military has a small percentage of oddballs. Ever hear of the Somali Affair (1993), when there was a Canadian neo-Nazi regiment sent to Somalia, and they ended up torturing and killing local Somali's? That type of thing sadly happens everywhere. It does not mean that the entire country is filled with Nazis. No I was not the person who said those things...but nice try. I didn't say the entire country is filled with neo-nazis. But at least you admit they are there in Ukraine now. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
DUI_Offender Posted October 21, 2024 Report Posted October 21, 2024 1 minute ago, Nationalist said: No I was not the person who said those things...but nice try. I didn't say the entire country is filled with neo-nazis. But at least you admit they are there in Ukraine now. I never said Ukraine did not have a neo-Nazi battalion. That has been known for a few years. What is the difference between that and Canada having one in the 90s? Ultimately, it's not significant, considering it's a small rogue division, just like what happened in Canada. Quote
Nationalist Posted October 21, 2024 Report Posted October 21, 2024 2 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: I never said Ukraine did not have a neo-Nazi battalion. That has been known for a few years. What is the difference between that and Canada having one in the 90s? Ultimately, it's not significant, considering it's a small rogue division, just like what happened in Canada. The difference is the possibility of a nuclear holocaust. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
DUI_Offender Posted October 21, 2024 Report Posted October 21, 2024 2 minutes ago, Nationalist said: The difference is the possibility of a nuclear holocaust. LOL...not going to happen. Quote
Nationalist Posted October 21, 2024 Report Posted October 21, 2024 2 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: LOL...not going to happen. I hope you're right. But you asked what the difference is and I told you. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
DUI_Offender Posted October 21, 2024 Report Posted October 21, 2024 8 minutes ago, Nationalist said: I hope you're right. But you asked what the difference is and I told you. Can you elaborate on what you mean, in terms of difference? I have no idea what you are talking about. What does having a rogue battalion have to do with nuclear warheads? Quote
Army Guy Posted October 21, 2024 Report Posted October 21, 2024 (edited) On 10/20/2024 at 2:14 PM, User said: Oh crap, now we get to listen to @Army Guy come back and tell us how amazingly well everything is going for Russia. I mean, can't you see all the territory they gained, if you zoom in really close, just look at it all! uPDATE IN KURST And the rest of the Ukrainian conflict...By a Ukrainian blogger...Could he be a russian cheerleader, not really but some on here are going to dismiss all of this info...as it is not their narrative....also note what he says about trump, and what Ukrainians fear most... Edited October 21, 2024 by Army Guy Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted October 21, 2024 Report Posted October 21, 2024 6 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: So what? Nearly every military has a small percentage of oddballs. Ever hear of the Somali Affair (1993), when there was a Canadian neo-Nazi regiment sent to Somalia, and they ended up torturing and killing local Somali's? That type of thing sadly happens everywhere. It does not mean that the entire country is filled with Nazis. Neo nazi's my ass, a few individuals took part in this incident, not the entire Regiment.... even that decision was totally political and they shut down the entire regiment instead of punishing those few soldiers involved...and it had nothing to do with being neo nazi's....where do you get you info....and it was one somali not plural....who was captured for infiltrating the camp, and stealing military supplies... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Videospirit Posted October 22, 2024 Report Posted October 22, 2024 2 hours ago, Army Guy said: uPDATE IN KURST And the rest of the Ukrainian conflict...By a Ukrainian blogger...Could he be a russian cheerleader, not really but some on here are going to dismiss all of this info...as it is not their narrative....also note what he says about trump, and what Ukrainians fear most... Does seem like Ukraine needs more support asap, more justifiable with North Korea entering the conflict too. Put some boots on the ground already. We need to have a no tolerance policy towards wars of conquest. 1 Quote
DUI_Offender Posted October 22, 2024 Report Posted October 22, 2024 (edited) 16 hours ago, Army Guy said: a few individuals took part in this incident, not the entire Regiment.... even that decision was totally political and they shut down the entire regiment instead of punishing those few soldiers involved...and it had nothing to do with being neo nazi's....where do you get you info....and it was one somali not plural....who was captured for infiltrating the camp, and stealing military supplies... The several people who made up the regiment flew Nazi flags, and were responsible for torturing and murdering Somalis, and you DEFEND them? My Grandparents (who served in WW2 and fought Hitler), are turning in their grave listening to your garbage posts. Here you are defending torturing and killing a teenager for alleged petty theft? Edited October 22, 2024 by DUI_Offender Quote
Army Guy Posted October 22, 2024 Report Posted October 22, 2024 9 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: The several people who made up the regiment flew Nazi flags, and were responsible for torturing and murdering Somalis, and you DEFEND them? My Grandparents (who served in WW2 and fought Hitler), are turning in their grave listening to your garbage posts. Here you are defending torturing and killing a teenager for alleged petty theft? First you pulled this from your ass, no sources no nothing....Shit there was a supposedly NAZI flag in Ottawa during the convoy, does that mean all of Ottawa are NAZI's...The torturing and muder was done to ONE Somalis citizen who was caught stealing military equipment form the compound....It was done by 3 members of the Airborne regt...Just a note there was well over 600 people in the Regt at the time , not to mention all the attachments from other units...I'm not defending them, just correcting your garbage post with facts... Your grandparents are tired of listening to your lies, and bullsh!t...which seems to be every post now....Now your saying your grandparents had fought Hitler himself, wonder what history book that's in, where they Russian by any chance...i think it is just more lies.... and you said your some kind of historian...how is that possible when you can't even remember basic facts about what happened in the 90's let alone during WII.... You do know there is a thing called goggle and everything can be fact checked in "minutes", which means you either don't know what your talking about because you took the short bus, or your a lazy poster and just post what every falls out your ass... or maybe it is both...Again not defending the actions of 3 soldiers here, what you've done is painted an entire Regt of over 600 soldiers with one brush, because of the actions of 3 misguided soldiers... That is just BS.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted October 22, 2024 Report Posted October 22, 2024 18 hours ago, Videospirit said: Does seem like Ukraine needs more support asap, more justifiable with North Korea entering the conflict too. Put some boots on the ground already. We need to have a no tolerance policy towards wars of conquest. Glad that is the message you gleaned from that video, DUI has been denying it all along, NATO has did everything in it's power to solow roll it's support for Ukraine....and have been in desperate need of supplies/ equipment for a year of more...the lack of this support is reasonable for Ukrainian deaths... Once it is confirmed that NK has combat troops In Ukraine, that would be an escalation by Russian and should be a green light to introduce NATO troops into the area...in some capacity or another... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Videospirit Posted October 22, 2024 Report Posted October 22, 2024 2 hours ago, Army Guy said: Glad that is the message you gleaned from that video, DUI has been denying it all along, NATO has did everything in it's power to solow roll it's support for Ukraine....and have been in desperate need of supplies/ equipment for a year of more...the lack of this support is reasonable for Ukrainian deaths... Once it is confirmed that NK has combat troops In Ukraine, that would be an escalation by Russian and should be a green light to introduce NATO troops into the area...in some capacity or another... I mean it's a fact that Ukraine has been losing ground along the frontlines, no matter how little ground they've been losing. Kursk's success was because they opened a new front against an area that Russia hadn't fortified. If Ukraine has been telling the truth about needing more support from the rest of the world, opening a new front would have made their supply situation even worse. If we're seeing Russia's gains start to increase even if it's still slow progress for them, it's concerning. Even just a short term increase in support could help Ukraine stabilize the frontlines until the war enters another winter, and Ukraine's military industrial complex should be in better shape soon to help them supply their own supplies now that its reforms are starting to have effect. Quote
Army Guy Posted October 23, 2024 Report Posted October 23, 2024 1 hour ago, Videospirit said: I mean it's a fact that Ukraine has been losing ground along the frontlines, no matter how little ground they've been losing. Kursk's success was because they opened a new front against an area that Russia hadn't fortified. If Ukraine has been telling the truth about needing more support from the rest of the world, opening a new front would have made their supply situation even worse. If we're seeing Russia's gains start to increase even if it's still slow progress for them, it's concerning. Even just a short term increase in support could help Ukraine stabilize the frontlines until the war enters another winter, and Ukraine's military industrial complex should be in better shape soon to help them supply their own supplies now that its reforms are starting to have effect. This has been my message for some time now, and have been called a russian cheerleader for it... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
User Posted October 23, 2024 Report Posted October 23, 2024 5 hours ago, Army Guy said: First you pulled this from your ass, no sources no nothing.... Oh come on. I am not a DUI cheerleader here, but he is making some really great points here that you are just brushing aside. I give him kudos for really understanding this subject you two have been discussing too. Too bad you can't refute anything he is saying. You just sit here denying everything he says like you are here. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
Army Guy Posted October 23, 2024 Report Posted October 23, 2024 16 hours ago, User said: Oh come on. I am not a DUI cheerleader here, but he is making some really great points here that you are just brushing aside. I give him kudos for really understanding this subject you two have been discussing too. Too bad you can't refute anything he is saying. You just sit here denying everything he says like you are here. I did refute everything he said, you can reread my post if you like, One nazi flag found in someones room does not make the entire Regiment a neo Nazi unit....nor does the action of three soldiers make the entire unit out of control... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
DUI_Offender Posted October 23, 2024 Report Posted October 23, 2024 1 minute ago, Army Guy said: I did refute everything he said, you can reread my post if you like, One nazi flag found in someones room does not make the entire Regiment a neo Nazi unit....nor does the action of three soldiers make the entire unit out of control... How is that any different than Ukraine? You act as if a huge percentage of Ukrainians subscribe to neo-Nazi idea, when it is just one battalion. Even America has rogue members of their military, and that is saying nothing about the Wagner Group in Russia, which clearly has fascist ideology. You are clearly applying a double standard when it comes to the Ukraine Quote
Army Guy Posted October 23, 2024 Report Posted October 23, 2024 Just now, DUI_Offender said: How is that any different than Ukraine? You act as if a huge percentage of Ukrainians subscribe to neo-Nazi idea, when it is just one battalion. Even America has rogue members of their military, and that is saying nothing about the Wagner Group in Russia, which clearly has fascist ideology. You are clearly applying a double standard when it comes to the Ukraine I'm not talking about Ukraine, I've never said anything about Nazis' in Ukraine/ Russia....Again your pulling shit out of your ass.........I'm talking about the Canadian Airborne Regiment and the 3 misguided soldiers that commited war crimes....and you painting the entire Regiment as a neo NAZI unit becasue of one flag.....once again more lies from you....Those other 597 members of the unit, were one of Canada's elite units at the time, they deserve better than the sh1t your dragging them through...Goggle the unit, read it for yourself... This is not about me, this is about you misrepresenting facts with your lies...a few rogue members does not make an entire regiment Rogue....but Thats your style i guess....A nazi flag was seen during the convoy protests, does that mean everyone in Ottawa is a NAZI....That's what you implying here... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
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