Queenmandy85 Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 (edited) 10 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: So escalating and perpetuating war is a logical response in your opinion. All based on "if", "Hitler", "appeasement". Duly noted. I'm glad we are in accord. If France and Britain had stopped Hitler when he re-occupied the Rhineland, and prevented the Germans from taking over the Sudetenland, they would have prevented WW2. What makes you think we can make the same mistakes and escape WW3? Edited January 28 by Queenmandy85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 8 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said: I'm glad we are in accord. If France and Britain had stopped Hitler when he re-occupied the Rhineland, and prevented the Germans from taking over the Sudetenland, they would have prevented WW2. What makes you think we can make the same mistakes and escape WW3? AHHH!!! WE ALL GONNA DIIIEEE!!! Get ahold of yourself Mandy. The only way WWIII starts, is if Biden and NATO start it. BUT..BUT...NAZIS! Yes Dear...the Ukraine does appear to be full of NAZIS. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenmandy85 Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 6 minutes ago, Nationalist said: AHHH!!! WE ALL GONNA DIIIEEE!!! Get ahold of yourself Mandy. The only way WWIII starts, is if Biden and NATO start it. BUT..BUT...NAZIS! Yes Dear...the Ukraine does appear to be full of NAZIS. On a side note, Nationalist, is Fat Oleg still on the reception desk in Lubyanka? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 3 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said: On a side note, Nationalist, is Fat Oleg still on the reception desk in Lubyanka? Who knows Dear? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 54 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said: I'm glad we are in accord. If France and Britain had stopped Hitler when he re-occupied the Rhineland, and prevented the Germans from taking over the Sudetenland, they would have prevented WW2. What makes you think we can make the same mistakes and escape WW3? We are not in accord, unfortunately. Far from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 44 minutes ago, Nationalist said: AHHH!!! WE ALL GONNA DIIIEEE!!! Get ahold of yourself Mandy. The only way WWIII starts, is if Biden and NATO start it. BUT..BUT...NAZIS! Yes Dear...the Ukraine does appear to be full of NAZIS. Yep. Am not going to get into this. A-historic revisionism. The incessant din of lies from superpower-funded media has captivated us all. Is like trying to explain chess, to a checkers player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenmandy85 Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 Do you believe Putin will just stop with the Donbas and Crimea? Do you believe he has no more territorial demands inspite of his declared objective of resoring the old Soviet empire? In order to fulfill his promise, he is going to need to go up against NATO. Having a compliant POTUS will only encourage him. How do you suggest we prevent a second Holodomor? Do we evacuate Ukraine and bring their population to Canada? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenmandy85 Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 (edited) Back to the Great State of Texas: A major factor driving people to want to move into the US is the disintegration of law and order in Central and South America. One of the root causes is the North American demand for drugs. When risking the journey through country like the Darrien Gap, and rape and violence along the way is better than staying where you are, nothing the US can put up in their path is going to deter them. It is an insoluble problem that former President Trump is happy to make worse, because he doesn't have to do anything about it. He will take office in just over eleven months and after that, as long as the illegals can be kept out of his golf resorts, he won't care. He will be happy to let the suckers and mugs who elected him suffer. All he wants is that inauguration that he hopes will keep him out of jail and start the money flowing in to his pocket again. Who knows, maybe he will even tell his master, the Moscow taxi driver, to take a hike. Edited January 28 by Queenmandy85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 3 hours ago, Rebound said: Where’s the immigration bill for Biden to sign? Oh yeah, that’s right.. Trump told Johnson to sit on it. Cause Republicans are gullible. You mean the one that would actually let more people into the country? Trump killed it. Thankfully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 36 minutes ago, CdnFox said: You mean the one that would actually let more people into the country? Trump killed it. Thankfully. You mean the one you haven’t read and don’t know the contents of? That one? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenmandy85 Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 40 minutes ago, CdnFox said: You mean the one that would actually let more people into the country? Trump killed it. Thankfully. They are going to enter the US whether the US wants it or not. They are motivated and are willing to risk their lives to get there. Our late King Cnute had better luck holding back the tide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 3 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said: Maybe there is something that can be done to repair the collapse of so many countries that drives people to take such desparate action. It's far too late for that now. Like climate change the time for action was decades ago. There's just too much broken stuff that's piled up in the way. Adaptation is the only option now and it'll be more expensive than acting ever would have been. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 29 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said: They are going to enter the US whether the US wants it or not. They are motivated and are willing to risk their lives to get there. Our late King Cnute had better luck holding back the tide. Trump was able to use Covid emergency measures to prevent refugees from entering the US. Now we need the laws changed. The GOP in the Senate agree, but the MAGA House refuses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 11 hours ago, Rebound said: When will the House GOP vote on the immigration bill that the senate passed? I'm not going to engage with your snuck premise of a Democrat Bill that curbs illegal immigration. It's a non-starter. Go fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 4 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said: The United States guaranteed Ukrainian sovereignty and the integrity of its borders. James Baker also made a deal with Russia that NATO wouldn't extend one inch past Germany, then Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia joined, then the Obama administration started 'eliminating corruption in Ukraine to pave the way for them to join NATO'... Quote Russia has no more right to occupy eastern Ukraine or Crimea than Nazi Germany did to occupy the Sudetenland or western Poland. Not true at all. The Sudetenland wasn't bringing a massive hostile military alliance the Germany's doorstep, and Ukraine was doing that exact thing to Russia. Stop acting like NATO encroachment was peachy keen. You'd react entirely differently to the arrival of a similar alliance against your country. Was Kennedy wrong to blockade Cuba? They were a sovereign nation that had just been invaded by the US a year earlier... Who's to say that they had no right to ally themselves with Russia, and take on some form of meaningful defence? Quote If Putin wins, he will percieve the United States as weak. Stop acting like the US isn't weak. The US is a joke right now. The 'leader' is infirm, there's and appalling amount of racial strife, and the two main political parties are no longer civil towards each other. Quote A Trump administration will just be an American subsidiary of the Kremlin because Putin owns Trump's balls. OMG, just stop with the CNN talking points already. That's patently stupid and you know it. Quote Putin will inflict a second Holodomor and will turn his eyes to the former Warsaw Pact members who have since joined NATO. "Strong in this one, the propaganda is. Out of the ass his head must surely come, lest ridiculed and ignored he shall certainly be." Quote we are all going to die if Putin attacks NATO. Nuclear war is not survivable. OMG, I honestly thought that your id10tic hyperbole had peaked with the previous blabbering, but somehow you managed to find a new level. Honestly, where do you get that sh1t from? Is CNN really that out of control, or is it Rachel Maddow/Joy Reid pulling your strings now? Call me crazy, but I never figured that this forum would stoop to that level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenmandy85 Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 57 minutes ago, Rebound said: Trump was able to use Covid emergency measures to prevent refugees from entering the US. Now we need the laws changed. The GOP in the Senate agree, but the MAGA House refuses. But it includes international law as well as US law. Europe may be getting onside but is that enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 59 minutes ago, Rebound said: Trump was able to use Covid emergency measures to OMG, you looked like you were about to tell the truth for a second. I was literally imagining you starting to spontaneously combust. Quote prevent refugees from entering the US. There it is... You managed to cram enough stupidity into the last few words of that sentence to keep your improbable streak alive. FYI Trump: prevented illegal immigrants from gaming the system and costing the US billions of dollars. If Dems are worried about legitimate refugees then they should take legitimate steps to get the border in order. Quote Now we need the laws changed. The GOP in the Senate agree, but the MAGA House refuses. When you crap your pants do you just swap them for a dirtier pair? Honest question. In other words... Yes, the border laws desperately need to be changed, but they don't need to get worse. The House should never vote on a bill tabled in crayon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 On 1/27/2024 at 10:07 AM, Queenmandy85 said: President Trump has ordered the GOP representatives to block any move President Biden makes to close the border. It is President Trump who is forcing the border open. As for Governor Abbott, is he about to engage in insurrection? That would mean the end of his political career. Not in MAGA CULT land.... Just look at Trump. 🤮 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 On 1/27/2024 at 11:14 AM, Nationalist said: Mike, I handed you the answer. Why deny yourself the obvious? Unless...you don't like the answer my fantasy? ftfy.... No one but the MAGA CULT likes your fantasies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 18 hours ago, Nationalist said: AHHH!!! WE ALL GONNA DIIIEEE!!! Jesus Mandy. Let's try to be realistic. A. Biden is actively breaking the US laws. Cite the "US laws" or STFU. You CANNOT. 18 hours ago, Nationalist said: B. A quarter of Ukraine is Russian now. No, it's NOT. Some is Russian OCCUPIED. Of course, you don't understand international law according to the Geneva Conventions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 9 hours ago, Nationalist said: Yaaa...I've seen the kind of "data" you wave around. I think I'll stick to my senses. I understand now Brandon has promised if the bill is passed he'll have the "authority to shut down the border when it becomes overwhelmed." Trump had it shut down. That means the POTUS already has the authority. That southern border has been "overwhelmed" for 3 years now. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/stunning-images-show-arizona-border-crossing-overrun-by-massive-surge-of-adult-male-migrants-from-across-globe/ar-AA1l2yMy Meanwhile, those "sanctuary cities" are now being over run by Biden's "refugees". The citizens are complaining. Especially the black people. Lol...it's another Shitshow created by stupid Libbies who do knee-jerk crap because...TDS. LET'S GO BRANDON The "authority" Trump used was Title 42, which was ruled EXPIRED by the SCOTUS. Duh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 2 hours ago, Rebound said: You mean the one you haven’t read and don’t know the contents of? That one? No, the one you haven't read but we now know just lets more people into the country. But - maybe i'm getting confused, post a link to the actual one you mean and we can read it together. Don't you get tired of looking silly? Like ever? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 (edited) 5 hours ago, Nationalist said: AHHH!!! WE ALL GONNA DIIIEEE!!! Get ahold of yourself Mandy. The only way WWIII starts, is if Biden and NATO start it. BUT..BUT...NAZIS! Yes Dear...the Ukraine does appear to be full of NAZIS. I love how the left's new talking point is " PUTIN'S GONNA ATTACK NATO IF TRUMP BECOMES PRESIDENT! " Yeah, Putin's enjoyed such smashing success against Ukraine that he wants to take on the US, Britain, Germany, France etc., all at the same time... 🤣 If my 14 yr old ever said anything that stupid I'd be inconsolable. These leftards are completely unglued now. They're not above saying anything, regardless of how stupid and blatantly false it is. Edited January 28 by WestCanMan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 6 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said: Think of the American lives lost if we don't support the Ukraine. So far, it is only money. If Putin makes the mistake of expanding his imperial designs on NATO, it will mean billions of lives. Russia gave up her claims on Ukraine. Putin is no different than Hitler and President Trump threatens to be Putin's Quisling. Appeasment caused WW2 and now we are on the brink of WW3. The difference is, WW2 only killed 50 million. Now we have nuclear weapons and, in the words of Nationalist, we are all going to die if we let that happen. Of course, Putin abrogated the Budapest Memorandum guaranteeing Ukraine's security BY RUSSIA. Right wingers here like to parade their IGNORANCE of that FACT. 6 hours ago, OftenWrong said: So escalating and perpetuating war is a logical response in your opinion. All based on "if", "Hitler", "appeasement". Duly noted. Based on the BUDAPEST MEMORANDUM. Duh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 2 hours ago, Rebound said: Trump was able to use Covid emergency measures to prevent refugees from entering the US. Now we need the laws changed. Yes - the law was changed... by the dems. Sorry kiddo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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