Supreme Court of Canada rules against Trudeau's environmental law

[blackbird]

This is great news for the provinces.  The ruling will be celebrated by Alberta and many others in Canada who believe Trudeau, Guilbeault and the Liberal-NDP coalition have been trampling on the rights of provinces and Canadians.  They thought they were the absolute dictators of Canada but just learned there is a Constitution that they must follow.  Trudeau and Liberals thought they had the SCC in their pocket, but there is a glimmer of hope here finally.

 

The Supreme Court of Canada ruled Friday against federal legislation dealing with the environmental effects of major developments. 

Five out of seven judges found most of the law unconstitutional, because it seeks to regulate activities within provincial jurisdiction.

Reaction to Supreme Court's ruling on environmental review law - North Bay News (baytoday.ca)

Supreme Court rules environmental impact legislation largely unconstitutional | CBC News

 

Edited October 13, 2023 by blackbird

[Michael Hardner]

So the courts work sometimes...

[eyeball]

At least until the SCC rules in favour of a First Nation case then it's back to being hopeless again.

[herbie]

Some people are celebrating without even knowing what the ruling even means. Not much as it says stay within the lines.
So Danielle can turn AB into a seeping shithole so long as none crosses into another province, territory, fish bearing stream or the ocean.

[Aristides]

It means there won't be yet another regulatory process involved in a country where it is almost already impossible to get a project approved.

[herbie]

It means the federal process if it applies must be sped up. That was the other main point in the ruling, it caused undue delays.

Now if they could issue the same for the Vancouver's building permit process, that seriously needs a boot in the ass.

[Aristides]

19 minutes ago, herbie said:

 

Now if they could issue the same for the Vancouver's building permit process, that seriously needs a boot in the ass.

Can't argue with that and Vancouver isn't the only one.

[Zeitgeist]

Our federal government has basically put Greenpeace in charge of resource development.  Guilbeault is the wolf in charge of the sheep.  

[herbie]

Yeah like we should put the President of Suncor or the CEO of Teck metals or someone similar?

Like why put someone with a clue about what they're in charge of?

[Zeitgeist]

The Trudeau Liberals are destroying Canadian living standards by preventing major LNG and other energy and mining projects through crushing regulations and carbon taxes.  The entire “climate crisis” crusade with its anti-human existence taxes (carbon taxes), subsidies for ineffectual “green power”, endless regulatory barriers, and similar infantile wishful thinking have made us weak and ridiculous.

We could be building our pension plan, infrastructure, and housing through energy and mining royalties, business tax revenue, and high paying jobs.  Get the kids away from the controls.

Edited October 15, 2023 by Zeitgeist

[Nexii]

45 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

The Trudeau Liberals are destroying Canadian living standards by preventing major LNG and other energy and mining projects through crushing regulations and carbon taxes.  The entire “climate crisis” crusade with its anti-human existence taxes (carbon taxes), subsidies for ineffectual “green power”, endless regulatory barriers, and similar infantile wishful thinking have made us weak and ridiculous.

We could be building our pension plan, infrastructure, and housing through energy and mining royalties, business tax revenue, and high paying jobs.  Get the kids away from the controls.

Agree, we need to take a more global view. If we don't do LNG, all it means is that China burns more coal. 

[eyeball]

7 minutes ago, Nexii said:

Agree, we need to take a more global view. If we don't do LNG, all it means is that China burns more coal. 

I could almost be sold on the idea we need to pillage our resources so we can generate the wealth we'll need for adapting to the inevitable.  I just can't help but pause to consider that even that won't help us because the 1% will have squirreled it away up in the Cloud or Elysium or somewhere that it can't do us any good.

I can see why this would be so much easier if I believed climate change was just a big nothing-burger.  Maybe I can be convinced the 1% are good for me.

[August1991]

On 10/13/2023 at 4:40 PM, Michael Hardner said:

So the courts work sometimes...

Our federal Supreme Court works sometimes.

This decision surprised me.

[Army Guy]

On 10/13/2023 at 10:20 PM, herbie said:

Some people are celebrating without even knowing what the ruling even means. Not much as it says stay within the lines.
So Danielle can turn AB into a seeping shithole so long as none crosses into another province, territory, fish bearing stream or the ocean.

You do know that once the liberals get kicked out of office, PP is going to reverse all the bills that Justin and his side kicks put in place and he is going to build pipelines, and open all of our resources up...and he is going to do that right across the country...including Quebec...or so he says so...he already knows there will be crying , sobbing, even kicking of feet...but in the end pipelines will be started to be built. 

[Army Guy]

On 10/14/2023 at 4:08 PM, herbie said:

Yeah like we should put the President of Suncor or the CEO of Teck metals or someone similar?

Like why put someone with a clue about what they're in charge of?

We have the entire liberal cabinet as examples of what not to look for in a minister, none of them could find their own asses, with out instructions or a special assistant and they have been running the country for 8 years now....My pet hamster could do a better job..

[herbie]

Oh.,.. PP will do everything regardless of popular opinion or how harmful it is to the environment, and fill the cabinet with cronies having a billionaire agenda?

And some that say Trudeau's a dictator really want an actual one.

[eyeball]

3 hours ago, Army Guy said:

You do know that once the liberals get kicked out of office, PP is going to reverse all the bills that Justin and his side kicks put in place and he is going to build pipelines, and open all of our resources up...and he is going to do that right across the country...including Quebec...or so he says so...he already knows there will be crying , sobbing, even kicking of feet...but in the end pipelines will be started to be built. 

Yup, there'll be no more pronouns or vaccine, homeless people will simply evaporate....he'll even bring back residential school's.

[Zeitgeist]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

Yup, there'll be no more pronouns or vaccine, homeless people will simply evaporate....he'll even bring back residential school's.

No more forcing gender ideology and racist “equity” schemes on the public.  The fake identity politics grandstanding should evaporate, going the way of vaccine mandates.  Economic opportunity will lift homeless out of poverty and deregulation will make homes more affordable.  Eliminating carbon taxes will lower inflation, interest rates, and the cost of living.

As you should know, residential schools continue to operate under Indigenous leadership.  Suicide and substance abuse persist sadly, but publicly funded education is still considered a social good.  Most Indigenous want it to continue because they want their kids to be successful. Same as it ever was.

What will also hopefully change is the anti-Canada narratives about the evil “colonist” settlers who brought us much of our prosperity. Ironically, Trudeau brought in the most settlers of any PM. Soft on the border, soft on the military, soft on hard drugs, but hard on political opponents (Emergencies Act), Trudeau leaves behind quite a legacy of discord and shame.

Edited October 17, 2023 by Zeitgeist

[herbie]

Maybe he'll go to King Chuck and ask to add more Senators so he can pass a new law that you can only say he, she and it or be jailed.

 

Days have passed and all the editorials are celebrating the ruling as some massive victory, thinking it will end all environmental reviews or something. They're already working on tweaks to bring the law withing the guidelines.

Edited October 17, 2023 by herbie

[Army Guy]

21 hours ago, eyeball said:

Yup, there'll be no more pronouns or vaccine, homeless people will simply evaporate....he'll even bring back residential school's.

If thats what it takes to make those on the left heads explode why not...I'm sure you guys already are in the planning stages for your exits, moving to Europe where the last vestige of the left is still celebrated... Of course even Europe is moving right now, tired of all the leftist bullshit..

I'm sure the next 8 years is going to be hell for you guys, to bad Kleenex is going under could have made a fortune in crying towels  

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, Army Guy said:

I'm sure the next 8 years is going to be hell for you guys, to bad Kleenex is going under could have made a fortune in crying towels  

don't get cocky

the Conservatives are all cowards, sycophants, cronies & traitors

they will cave in on everything, just like Doug Ford

[Army Guy]

23 hours ago, herbie said:

Oh.,.. PP will do everything regardless of popular opinion or how harmful it is to the environment, and fill the cabinet with cronies having a billionaire agenda?

And some that say Trudeau's a dictator really want an actual one.

What has Justin do that was popular with voters ? other than weed, everything else has been one failure after another...And how is the liberal climate plan doing , have we meet any of our target goals, or has our carbon output actually increased...

Justin is not a dictator, a wingnut for sure, but not a dictator... 

[Army Guy]

2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

don't get cocky

the Conservatives are all cowards, sycophants, cronies & traitors

they will cave in on everything, just like Doug Ford

You don't have to get cocky to govern better than the liberals have in the last 8 years, getting rid of the carbon tax would put them light years ahead of the liberals..

[Dougie93]

3 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

You don't have to get cocky to govern better than the liberals have in the last 8 years, getting rid of the carbon tax would put them light years ahead of the liberals..

the Conservatives will govern exactly as the Liberals have

there is only one ruling class, don't be naive

the Conservatives are never going to repeal the carbon tax

the Conservatives are the Laurentian Elites too

[Zeitgeist]

29 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

the Conservatives will govern exactly as the Liberals have

there is only one ruling class, don't be naive

the Conservatives are never going to repeal the carbon tax

the Conservatives are the Laurentian Elites too

I used to think the big conflict was Quebec versus the rest of Canada, but Quebec has been like a foreign country ever since I can remember.  Nothing new there. The struggle is between the older Canada of farmers/natural resource workers/builders and the white collar upper managerial/executive class based in Ottawa, Toronto, Montreal, and urban Canada.  Toronto and Vancouver are international cities without much stake in Canadian culture apart from $200 NHL tickets.

All the Equity, Diversity and Inclusion choose your gender ridiculousness has come from privileged students and been imported into the HR departments of medium and large businesses.  These kids have been insulated from labour and don’t like blue collar workers.  Singh and Trudeau exemplify these attitudes.  They’re not really concerned with the challenges of working people because they’re not around these people.  They don’t understand basic social goods like being able to keep most of what you earn and being able to start a business without red tape.

Instead, the Laurentian elites want to take your money and control your behaviour through their spending programs, because they think they know better than you how you should live and what you deserve.  Climate change is just the latest excuse for their social engineering.

Edited October 17, 2023 by Zeitgeist