WestCanMan Posted October 7, 2023 Report Posted October 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Aristides said: From the link WestCanMan posted. Those hairs you keep having to split keep getting finer. Dude, if you just read that link I posted then you know that she: 1) couldn't even name a year that she was allegedly raped 2) met him for the first time outside of a dept store, went into the store with him and modelled lingerie for him, allowed him into the change-room (she didn't say that he forced his way in - she said that after the door closed he came after her), and now she's claiming that she was surprised to have het cooter grabbed. Do you honestly feel like that's the basis for a sexual battery claim, or is she a raging effing loony? Call me crazy, but if I met a girl at a dept store and she proceeded to model lingerie for me, I'd think she was the kind of girl that you could carry around like a 6-pack. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
WestCanMan Posted October 8, 2023 Report Posted October 8, 2023 3 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Dude, if you just read that link I posted then you know that she: 1) couldn't even name a year that she was allegedly raped 2) met him for the first time outside of a dept store, went into the store with him and modelled lingerie for him, allowed him into the change-room (she didn't say that he forced his way in - she said that after the door closed he came after her), and now she's claiming that she was surprised to have het cooter grabbed. Do you honestly feel like that's the basis for a sexual battery claim, or is she a raging effing loony? Call me crazy, but if I met a girl at a dept store and she proceeded to model lingerie for me, I'd think she was the kind of girl that you could carry around like a 6-pack. @Aristides, where did you go? You had a chance to read E Jean Caroll's own words about her accusation against Trump. What do you think? Are you just running away now? 1 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
Aristides Posted October 8, 2023 Report Posted October 8, 2023 3 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Dude, if you just read that link I posted then you know that she: 1) couldn't even name a year that she was allegedly raped 2) met him for the first time outside of a dept store, went into the store with him and modelled lingerie for him, allowed him into the change-room (she didn't say that he forced his way in - she said that after the door closed he came after her), and now she's claiming that she was surprised to have het cooter grabbed. Do you honestly feel like that's the basis for a sexual battery claim, or is she a raging effing loony? Call me crazy, but if I met a girl at a dept store and she proceeded to model lingerie for me, I'd think she was the kind of girl that you could carry around like a 6-pack. You are a fine reason we need courts. Quote
BeaverFever Posted October 8, 2023 Report Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, WestCanMan said: TBH, I don't even know if you're dumb enough to believe that or if you're just lying like a good little leftist stooge again. The "unhinged and petulant stooge" that you're talking about got through 4 years of his presidency without starting any wars (first president since Carter - you're probably too young to even remember him), hardly any US servicemen died, he brought stability to the ME that that we had never seen in our lifetimes, and the American economy was booming until the left's covid fiasco. In Biden's "worst senior moments" he doesn't know where he is and he can't speak English. In a room full of politicians and friendlies, he talks to curtains. There's a person at the WH now whose job description is "Interrupt and abruptly end press conferences when the president forgets what he's talking about mid-sentence, or goes into mumble mode and can't recover". Don't you want to just say one intelligent, decent, honest thing in your life? It doesn't even make sense that you're "a concerned citizen from the western world" anymore. The only thing that makes sense now is if you're an agent provocateur from a hostile nation, just trying to push as many destructive narratives as you can. Biden may have his senior moments but Trump is an unhinged and crooked mor0n who didn’t know sh1t about government or anything and tried to behave like like child dictator, a modern day Caligula. From the comical to the criminal, there’s never been anyone so far into the top right quadrant of the stupid/crazy axis in the White House. Never has a president been so denounced and criticized by so many of his own hand-picked cabinet members and White House staffers. Also, Trump carried out far more drone strikes than any other president. By his second year alone Trump had carried out more Drone strikes than all 8 years of the Obama presidency. At the same time he cancelled Obama’s requirement for the White House to approve drone strikes and the requirement for the military, allowing the military to engage at will without presidential approval and he also revoked the requirement to report numbers of civilian casualties from drone strikes. Edited October 8, 2023 by BeaverFever 1 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted October 8, 2023 Report Posted October 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Aristides said: You are a fine reason we need courts. ROFLMAO - to prosecute innocent people you don't like? Yeah - that does seem to be the left wing trend these days Quote
Nationalist Posted October 8, 2023 Report Posted October 8, 2023 On 10/6/2023 at 11:59 AM, Rebound said: Hold that thought a moment. Donald Trump revealed extremely sensitive U.S. defense secrets with a foreign national who manufactures cardboard boxes. That’s ok with you, because Trump. So you’re the one who’s deranged. Correction...someone said that's what they saw and someone else said that's what they overheard. This is chickenshit and cannot stand up in court. I think the Tweenkies are starting to realize they've saddled a horse with a broken back. The desperation is visible. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted October 8, 2023 Report Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Biden may have his senior moments but Trump is an unhinged and crooked mor0n who didn’t know sh1t about government or anything and tried to behave like like child dictator, a modern day Caligula. From the comical to the criminal, there’s never been anyone so far into the top right quadrant of the stupid/crazy axis in the White House. Never has a president been so denounced and criticized by so many of his own hand-picked cabinet members and White House staffers. Also, Trump carried out far more drone strikes than any other president. By his second year alone Trump had carried out more Drone strikes than all 8 years of the Obama presidency. At the same time he cancelled Obama’s requirement for the White House to approve drone strikes and the requirement for the military, allowing the military to engage at will without presidential approval and he also revoked the requirement to report numbers of civilian casualties from drone strikes. Oh speaking of Barry... I understand the limo driver in Chicago is missing his well paid trips of blow and blow around town with Barry and his... Guy of the night. Edited October 8, 2023 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Rebound Posted October 8, 2023 Author Report Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: Correction...someone said that's what they saw and someone else said that's what they overheard. This is chickenshit and cannot stand up in court. I think the Tweenkies are starting to realize they've saddled a horse with a broken back. The desperation is visible. Oh. Since he can get away with it, it’s ok. I see. But it is provable: The FBI has already interviewed this man. Pretty simple: “Tell us the secrets you know, tell us who told you, and tell us who you told. And don’t ever repeat these secrets to anyone else. Ever.” How about telling us what you think of someone who would divulge highly sensitive weapons secrets to the foreign owner of a cardboard box making company? Edited October 8, 2023 by Rebound Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
CdnFox Posted October 8, 2023 Report Posted October 8, 2023 51 minutes ago, Rebound said: Oh. Since he can get away with it, it’s ok. I see. Oh. Since it can't actually be proven as something that happened but someone in the media suggested it may have we should have trump arrested and incarcerated without the bother of a trial. I see. Actually explains the whole 'Russian collusion' thing. Quote
Rebound Posted October 8, 2023 Author Report Posted October 8, 2023 41 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Oh. Since it can't actually be proven as something that happened but someone in the media suggested it may have we should have trump arrested and incarcerated without the bother of a trial. I see. Actually explains the whole 'Russian collusion' thing. It’s already proven. The FBI interviewed the witness who Trump divulged the secrets to. Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
CdnFox Posted October 8, 2023 Report Posted October 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Rebound said: It’s already proven. The FBI interviewed the witness who Trump divulged the secrets to. No, that is not 'proven'. If the fbi interviews me and i say you absolutely told me you ate a live baby - would that prove you ate a live baby? And again - it's crap statements like that which should be obviously wrong to ANYBODY regardless of political affiliation that makes people think your side are nothing but liars. Quote
herbie Posted October 8, 2023 Report Posted October 8, 2023 You know how it goes. if The FBI were to use that information, had it sworn into evidence in a court of law and a Judge and jury found him guilty it still wouldn't be proof it would be witch hunt, persecution, fake news. Al Capone should've tried that angle... Quote
Legato Posted October 8, 2023 Report Posted October 8, 2023 17 minutes ago, herbie said: You know how it goes. if The FBI were to use that information, had it sworn into evidence in a court of law and a Judge and jury found him guilty it still wouldn't be proof it would be witch hunt, persecution, fake news. Al Capone should've tried that angle... They tried the AL Capone thing with Trumps taxes, didn't work, same with this ear of bull. eye of newt charge. Quote
CdnFox Posted October 8, 2023 Report Posted October 8, 2023 1 hour ago, herbie said: You know how it goes. if The FBI were to use that information, had it sworn into evidence in a court of law and a Judge and jury found him guilty it still wouldn't be proof it would be witch hunt, persecution, fake news. That literally would be a modern witch hunt. That is what you call hearsay. It would not be lawful. If a judge convicted someone based on them having heard it from someone else then that would be very illegal. So - yet again the left proves it does not understand how law works and thinks the law is only there to be used as a club against it's enemies. BTW- the FBI has sworn testimony that Biden was receiving money illegally via hunter for influence peddling. Are you saying that should be enough to convict him without any corroborating evidence? Democrats have turned the courts into a political tool, not a tool of law. Quote
Rebound Posted October 8, 2023 Author Report Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) 23 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Dude, if you just read that link I posted then you know that she: 1) couldn't even name a year that she was allegedly raped 2) met him for the first time outside of a dept store, went into the store with him and modelled lingerie for him, allowed him into the change-room (she didn't say that he forced his way in - she said that after the door closed he came after her), and now she's claiming that she was surprised to have het cooter grabbed. Do you honestly feel like that's the basis for a sexual battery claim, or is she a raging effing loony? Call me crazy, but if I met a girl at a dept store and she proceeded to model lingerie for me, I'd think she was the kind of girl that you could carry around like a 6-pack. Right, your DEFLECTION BS AGAIN. Trump gave away highly sensitive defense secrets to a foreigner for no reason, the foreigner told a bunch of people, and you cannot defend it so you switch the subject. Simple: If one person has non-consensual sexual contact with another, it is a sexual assault or a rape. It doesn't matter what she was wearing, whether they knew each other or not, where they met. Edited October 8, 2023 by Rebound Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
Rebound Posted October 8, 2023 Author Report Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, CdnFox said: No, that is not 'proven'. If the fbi interviews me and i say you absolutely told me you ate a live baby - would that prove you ate a live baby? And again - it's crap statements like that which should be obviously wrong to ANYBODY regardless of political affiliation that makes people think your side are nothing but liars. Except you're forgetting one thing: How else could this man know the classified information? He's a Mar-a-Lago member and Trump's made speeches at this cardboard plant. Edited October 8, 2023 by Rebound Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
herbie Posted October 9, 2023 Report Posted October 9, 2023 Hearsay is when YOU didn't hear or witness an event yourself, not when the cops file what a witness heard or saw. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted October 9, 2023 Report Posted October 9, 2023 3 hours ago, Rebound said: Except you're forgetting one thing: That you weren't very bright in the first place? No - took that into consideration. Quote How else could this man know the classified information? Who knows? Maybe someone else told him and he's blaming trump to cover up for them. Maybe a russian told him and paid him to blame trump. Or some one else. Maybe the guy was fooling around with a female sailor or the like and she happened to let it slip. Sounds like it wasn't a lot of information, two small details that were important but not complex - could have been a lot of places. That's why we don't take people's word for thing, we look into it and investigate and before we say they're guilty of a crime we hold a trial. We don't just create a dossier and pretend it's proof Quote
Nationalist Posted October 9, 2023 Report Posted October 9, 2023 22 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Biden may have his senior moments but Trump is an unhinged and crooked mor0n who didn’t know sh1t about government or anything and tried to behave like like child dictator, a modern day Caligula. From the comical to the criminal, there’s never been anyone so far into the top right quadrant of the stupid/crazy axis in the White House. Never has a president been so denounced and criticized by so many of his own hand-picked cabinet members and White House staffers. Also, Trump carried out far more drone strikes than any other president. By his second year alone Trump had carried out more Drone strikes than all 8 years of the Obama presidency. At the same time he cancelled Obama’s requirement for the White House to approve drone strikes and the requirement for the military, allowing the military to engage at will without presidential approval and he also revoked the requirement to report numbers of civilian casualties from drone strikes. Gee...you should learn to appreciate Trump since...it looks like he'll be the next POTUS. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
WestCanMan Posted October 9, 2023 Report Posted October 9, 2023 On 10/7/2023 at 7:33 PM, Aristides said: You are a fine reason we need courts. You are a fine reason we need abortions. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
WestCanMan Posted October 9, 2023 Report Posted October 9, 2023 23 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Biden may have his senior moments but 'May have'? God you're a f'ing loser. Quote Trump is an unhinged and crooked mor0n who didn’t know sh1t about government or anything and tried to behave like like child dictator, a modern day Caligula. From the comical to the criminal, there’s never been anyone so far into the top right quadrant of the stupid/crazy axis in the White House. Never has a president been so denounced and criticized by so many of his own hand-picked cabinet members and White House staffers. Trump is as PG-13 as schissporn, and it's really sad that he was the best president of the last 30 years. As much as you may hate him, he did put America first. Obama and Biden are far more PG-13, aside from the kid-smooching and the racism, but they were/are an abomination in the WH. Literally everything went to shit under their watches. Quote Also, Trump carried out far more drone strikes than any other president. By his second year alone Trump had carried out more Drone strikes than all 8 years of the Obama presidency. At the same time he cancelled Obama’s requirement for the White House to approve drone strikes and the requirement for the military, allowing the military to engage at will without presidential approval and he also revoked the requirement to report numbers of civilian casualties from drone strikes. Trump inherited Obama's mess you fool. Obama's idi0cy brought us a country the size of North Korea committing genocide as fast as they could. The reason that Trump managed to slaughter islamic state so much faster than Obama thought possible was because of his accelerated drone strike campaign, and especially because he made drone strikes available to people within the theatre of war, instead of waiting for bureaucrats and politicians to weigh in from the other side of the planet, between sips of Champagne. Biden's drone strike wasn't "a surgical strike with collateral damage", it was a knee-jerk reaction to a situation that was out of control due to the Biden administration's laundry list of colossal failures. Bad things happen in the midst of a high-stakes clusterfork. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
WestCanMan Posted October 9, 2023 Report Posted October 9, 2023 5 hours ago, Rebound said: Right, your DEFLECTION BS AGAIN. Trump gave away highly sensitive defense secrets to a foreigner for no reason, the foreigner told a bunch of people, and you cannot defend it so you switch the subject. Read what's below.... On 10/7/2023 at 10:14 AM, Aristides said: So, yes. https://www.courthousenews.com/donald-trump-loses-civil-rape-trial-ordered-to-pay-5-million/ ^That^, ^right there^, is the original "deflection" of this thread to E Jean Caroll, genius. You brought it up, not me. I just rubbed your nose in it to prove how stupid you are. Now that the evidence is here, and you can't address it specifically without admitting that you're a total stooge, you switched to an accusation of "deflection" ? Here's a hint: if you can't defend your own leftard propaganda, then refrain from talking about it. That way you don't have to resort to snivelling after I prove how stupid you are. Quote Simple: If one person has non-consensual sexual contact with another, it is a sexual assault or a rape. It doesn't matter what she was wearing, whether they knew each other or not, where they met. As usual, you can't address the specifics of the case, you have to resort to "ALL WOMEN MUST BE BELIEVED, UNLESS THEY'RE ACCUSING LEFTISTS, IN WHICH CASE THEY'RE ALL DESPICABLE WHORES, AND HILLARY CAN CALL THEM WHATEVER NAMES SHE WANTS!" It's actually this simple: implied and active consent are 100% normal in sexual encounters. Verbal consent is actually the exception to the rule, and it's even kinda weird. Who says: "Can I kiss you? Can I put my hand on your arse? Can I touch your boob? Can I put my hand inside your pants? Can I put my penis in your vagina?" I imagine that the answer is a huge "NO" to every instance of that. Ewww. FYI: if a woman meets a guy for the first time outside of a dept store, and then she agrees to model lingerie for him within ten minutes, and allows him into the dressing room with her, any reasonable human would conclude that she was good to go. I.e., that constitutes "implied consent" to a sexual encounter. Literally all the info that she voluntarily offerred clearly establishes "implied consent", 100%. At that point it becomes normal for a guy to make a move. It's Caroll's word against Trump's whether or not she escalated her implied consent to active consent at some point, or if she gave explicit verbal or physical signs that she was actually rejecting his sexual advances (after she let him into her change room to model lingerie for him), but the fact remains that she never objected loudly enough for anyone in the dept store to take notice, and it would be really hard to have sex in a dept store changeroom without being noticed even if you were trying your hardest to remain silent. Also, whatever happened, she never thought to complain to police about the incident in almost 30 years. She never even mentioned it to anyone until Trump was president for 3 years... More importantly, she never mentioned it until after she saw how seriously Dr Ford's ridiculously vague and unsubstantiated accusation against Kavanaugh was taken. Ford's accusation was actually a massive joke from top to bottom: it was entirely devoid of the most critical elements such as location and date, not to mention witnesses or physical evidence of any kind. Her accusation was just a completely blank slate with some snot bubbles, yet it was taken as seriously as a brain tumour dominating the center of an actual MRI. Like Dr Ford, Caroll conveniently couldn't name the year it happened, and there's no record that she ever complained to police: she just dumped a highly political accusation against a conservative in the MSM's lap and let them run with it. Why didn't she name a year? That would be pretty risky, wouldn't it? What if she picked a day in the middle of a week when he could prove that he was in Europe? Or California? It's really convenient for fake accusers to be allowed to accuse someone of rape without needing to mention a date, location, have any witnesses or physical evidence, right? Caroll is a hideous f'ing loser of the lowest order, and that's why she's a leftard superstar. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
CdnFox Posted October 9, 2023 Report Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: Gee...you should learn to appreciate Trump since...it looks like he'll be the next POTUS. Well there is a good chance of that, trump is still polling ahead by a nose. 1 Quote
Rebound Posted October 9, 2023 Author Report Posted October 9, 2023 On 10/7/2023 at 3:14 PM, WestCanMan said: It was beyond their scope to say that "he raped her", it wasn't a criminal trial. Also, your article falsely claims that the incident happened in 1996: Caroll doesn't actually recall what year the incident allegedly happened. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/07/02/what-you-need-know-e-jean-carroll-allegation-new-book-out/1621645001/ FYI that's not "1996". I don't know if she changed her story for the anti-Trump audience, trial rather, but she did not accuse Trump of raping her "in 1996". Here's more: Was she going into the dressing room to try on "handbags and hats"? I don't know anyone who'd do that, so by her own admission she was going to the change room to model lingerie for him. And who was he, again? He was just "that real-estate tycoon": she didn't even know him. Yet there she was modelling lingerie for him in a dept store. So he came in there with no objections from her, then he got aggressive...? It just keep getting better. E Jean Caroll is at the very best a self-confessed ho who went into the change room to model lingerie for a guy that she didn't even know 20 minutes earlier, who may have had her flytrap grabbed. If you just met a girl and twenty minutes later she was modelling lingerie for you, wouldn't you think that her cooter was up for grabs? No, you are not allowed to have sex with a woman because she models underwear. On the basis of what you’re saying, Trump sexually assaulted this woman. Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
reason10 Posted October 9, 2023 Report Posted October 9, 2023 On 10/5/2023 at 8:16 PM, Rebound said: Shortly after he left office, former President Donald J. Trump shared apparently classified information about American nuclear submarines with an Australian businessman during an evening of conversation at Mar-a-Lago, his private club and residence in Florida, according to two people familiar with the matter. The businessman, Anthony Pratt, a billionaire member of Mar-a-Lago who runs one of the world’s largest cardboard companies, went on to share the sensitive details about the submarines with several others, the people said. Mr. Trump’s disclosures, they said, potentially endangered the U.S. nuclear fleet. During his talk with Mr. Pratt, Mr. Trump revealed at least two pieces of critical information about the U.S. submarines’ tactical capacities, according to the people familiar with the matter. Those included how many nuclear warheads the vessels carried and how close they could get to their Russian counterparts without being detected. Mr. Trump has been known to share classified information verbally on other occasions. During an Oval Office meeting in 2017 shortly after he fired the F.B.I. director James B. Comey, Mr. Trump revealed sensitive classified intelligence to two Russian officials, according to people briefed on the matter. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/05/us/politics/trump-nuclear-submarine-classified-documents.html The TREASON TIMES? That story is a LIE and YOU ARE A LIAR, just like those NAZIS at the TREASON TIMES. Quote
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