blackbird Posted September 21, 2023 Report Posted September 21, 2023 (edited) The Khalistan movement should be designated as a terrorist organization and outlawed in Canada. Since the Proud Boys and other organizations that have not been involved in any terrorism ( not in any significant way) have been designated as such, the government needs to look at the history of the Khalistan movement in India and the violent conflicts that happened, including the Air India bombing and loss of 329 lives in 1985. What is deemed to be a terrorist organization should not be done by politics but actual terrorist acts in the past. The Liberals and NDP have lost any credibility on this subject. Why India fears the Khalistan movement and how Canada became embroiled in diplomatic spat over killing of Sikh separatist (theconversation.com) Edited September 21, 2023 by blackbird 1 Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted September 21, 2023 Report Posted September 21, 2023 We should have been much tougher on Khalistan militants over the last forty years. The Air India bombing removed all doubt as to how dangerous they were. Sikhs who spoke out against them risked death here. 1 1 Quote
Army Guy Posted September 21, 2023 Report Posted September 21, 2023 18 hours ago, Nexii said: Well I don't think we should have handed him over. They'd have executed him. One we don't have the death penalty and two that doesn't really show much strength. Granted, I am pro-death penalty for crimes of mass murder beyond any doubt. But only if directly culpable Why would that have been our problem, Omar committed terrorism in Afghanistan while being a Canadian citizen...He was a bomb maker, just a note bomb makers were on top of the target list...Hence the reaction from American SOF forces...The fact he survived was attributed to his sat phone, and his ability to talk English, and the US want what he knew....if not for those factors he would have been shot dead or let to bleed out. Sorry i have a problem with "were all OK with killing him on the battle field", but not with a nation who justice system is not the same as ours.. and becasue we do not have the death penalty no one else should either... I get it strength comes from giving the guy 10 million dollars becasue his rights were violated...but no regard to the US medic he killed, or any of those that died from his bombs...he is not a soldier , or enemy combatant, he is a terrorist. 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
taxesanddeath Posted September 21, 2023 Report Posted September 21, 2023 (edited) 23 hours ago, cougar said: The Indian government had designated that individual as a terrorist. The American government designated Osama Bin Laden as a terrorist and went into Pakistan and killed him. Kind of the same thing when you look at it. Your example is so wrong on many levels. As I said before, I highly believe JT is "BS-ing" Edited September 21, 2023 by taxesanddeath Quote
betsy Posted September 21, 2023 Report Posted September 21, 2023 The pressure is really gonna hit: The opposition parties have rightly echoed the government’s condemnation of the notion of an assassination of a Canadian citizen, but they have done so in an information vacuum. That vacuum must be filled. More than that, Canadians deserve clarity on such an important matter, particularly given the potential for significant diplomatic and economic repercussions. But what of the national security imperative to protect sources and methods? Those concerns have been raised as a shield, time and again, in the debate over China’s attempt to meddle in Canada’s elections. They remain, for the most part, a self-serving justification for officials to retain control over information that belongs in the public sphere. Some particulars of intelligence-gathering techniques may need to be held back from public view. Everything else must be brought to light, and not just because Canadians deserve clarity. Realpolitik will be served as well. To date, Ottawa’s efforts to round up support from its closest allies have been unsuccessful. The Liberals have denied reports that our allies refused Canada’s request to condemn India over Mr. Nijjar’s killing. Whatever parsing of language allows for that statement, the reality is this: No country has. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/editorials/article-ottawa-owes-canadians-the-full-truth-on-the-killing-of-hardeep-singh/ Quote
WestCanMan Posted September 21, 2023 Report Posted September 21, 2023 10 minutes ago, betsy said: The pressure is really gonna hit: The opposition parties have rightly echoed the government’s condemnation of the notion of an assassination of a Canadian citizen, but they have done so in an information vacuum. That vacuum must be filled. More than that, Canadians deserve clarity on such an important matter, particularly given the potential for significant diplomatic and economic repercussions. But what of the national security imperative to protect sources and methods? Those concerns have been raised as a shield, time and again, in the debate over China’s attempt to meddle in Canada’s elections. They remain, for the most part, a self-serving justification for officials to retain control over information that belongs in the public sphere. Some particulars of intelligence-gathering techniques may need to be held back from public view. Everything else must be brought to light, and not just because Canadians deserve clarity. Realpolitik will be served as well. To date, Ottawa’s efforts to round up support from its closest allies have been unsuccessful. The Liberals have denied reports that our allies refused Canada’s request to condemn India over Mr. Nijjar’s killing. Whatever parsing of language allows for that statement, the reality is this: No country has. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/editorials/article-ottawa-owes-canadians-the-full-truth-on-the-killing-of-hardeep-singh/ There's a paywall to see this G&M article: The killing of Hardeep Singh Nijjar: A timeline of events Do you have access? Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth.
Army Guy Posted September 21, 2023 Report Posted September 21, 2023 32 minutes ago, taxesanddeath said: Your example is so wrong on many levels. As I said before, I highly believe JT is "BS-ing" How is it wrong, becasue no one really cares if anyone meddles in 3 rd world countries affairs, and hey we are Canada can't do that here , this is Canada....how is it different... perhaps if we had a better inter national reputation other nations would not be so willing to pull sh*t like this, today does anyone really think India gives a crap if they insult us or not... Even if JT is BSing Canadians once more, what difference is it going to make, will liberal voters decide to change their minds...no JT could take a dump on their door steps and they would laugh and smile "OH that JT such a joker" Liberal voters love it when he lies and deceives them... 1 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
betsy Posted September 21, 2023 Report Posted September 21, 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: There's a paywall to see this G&M article: The killing of Hardeep Singh Nijjar: A timeline of events Do you have access? I didn't know it has a paywall. I don't think I have access..........but I'm surprised I was able to get that far. I just tried accessing the timeline - I can't get in. Edited September 21, 2023 by betsy Quote
eyeball Posted September 21, 2023 Report Posted September 21, 2023 2 hours ago, Army Guy said: Why would that have been our problem, Omar committed terrorism in Afghanistan while being a Canadian citizen...He was a bomb maker He was a Canadian child soldier and Ottawa acted like an effing arsehole towards him. Thankfully we have a Constitution and judicial system that can't be f**ked with by the likes of you and Ottawa. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Army Guy Posted September 21, 2023 Report Posted September 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, eyeball said: He was a Canadian child soldier and Ottawa acted like an effing arsehole towards him. Thankfully we have a Constitution and judicial system that can't be f**ked with by the likes of you and Ottawa. Your funny eyeball we have done this dance over Omar for dozens of years... Omar was nothing more than a terrorist. he gave up his rights once he left the country to oppress another via terrorism so they could force the people of Afghanistan to live the way they wanted them to... and upon his return he was treated like a hero to a lot of Canadians, and was well paid for his efforts... Had he not been a arsehole while he was in Afghanistan, you would have a point.. instead he became a terrorist that should have died in Afghanistan...There are no child soldiers just targets...You should ask the Canadian Capt who took an axe to the back of his head while having tea with the elders by a small boy... ask the RCR while clearing a mud hut complex, was shot in the back of the head by a 15 year old with a pistol , as he walked by him on a set of stairs...there was no pause or debate over constitution rights nor did our judicial system who makes our rules of engagement mention any child soldier special treatment. It did however say if you felt your or your teammates lives were in danger we were free to engage...incase your wondering both of those teenagers died in a ball of violence...condoned by the same constitution your quote... Omar was not all that uncommon in Afghanistan, considering 12 is the age they become men...so excuse me if i don't shed any tears for Omar and his merry band of terrorist...I saw there handy work up close and personal, the results of cutting off the hands of a 12 year girl, while she watched the taliban rape her mother, and but a bullet in her mother once they were done...all for going to school, my favorite is they skinned alive most of the skin on a elderly man becasue he talked to us , the previous day , we asked for instructions to the next town....they staked him to the ground, and left him to bake in the sun... in the same spot we had stopped him to ask for directions, he died before helo medivac arrived, i got more if you want, 3 long tours more... I want to remind you it was our constitution that sent us over to Afghanistan in the first place, thats right our duly elected government sent us over not to hand out blankets and coloring books, but to hunt terrorist down and kill them including ones like omar, since he was a bomb maker he and his ilk were pursued relentlessly until found and eliminated... Omar is the result of a miracle, and Canadian governments lack of will to drop him in the middle of the Atlantic. You can paint me as the monster all you want, i became what i am today becasue of decisions made by me, the military, and my government.. lets not forget the people of Canada... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
eyeball Posted September 21, 2023 Report Posted September 21, 2023 22 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Omar was nothing more than a terrorist. What did the SC say when you enlightened them with that insight? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
taxesanddeath Posted September 21, 2023 Report Posted September 21, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Army Guy said: How is it wrong, becasue no one really cares if anyone meddles in 3 rd world countries affairs, and hey we are Canada can't do that here , this is Canada....how is it different... perhaps if we had a better inter national reputation other nations would not be so willing to pull sh*t like this, today does anyone really think India gives a crap if they insult us or not... Even if JT is BSing Canadians once more, what difference is it going to make, will liberal voters decide to change their minds...no JT could take a dump on their door steps and they would laugh and smile "OH that JT is such a joker" Liberal voters love it when he lies and deceives them... I think you misunderstood me. As I said, I believe JT is bsing, so there is no bin Laden or Qasem Soleimani here. India is not 3rd world country you are right though, there are at least 4 to 5 % of voters who believe JT can do no wrong. Edited September 21, 2023 by taxesanddeath 1 Quote
Army Guy Posted September 21, 2023 Report Posted September 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, taxesanddeath said: I think you misunderstood me. As I said, I believe JT is bsing, so there is no bin Laden or Qasem Soleimani here. India is not 3rd world country you are right though, there are at least 4 to 5 % of voters who believe JT can do no wrong. What is it that makes India not a 3 rd world nation, standard of living, GDP, their military, what exactly... I think the number is way higher than that, even the centrist believe it the most part JT is untouchable...... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
WestCanMan Posted September 21, 2023 Report Posted September 21, 2023 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Your funny eyeball we have done this dance over Omar for dozens of years... Omar was nothing more than a terrorist. It didn't happen in his kitchen, it didn't happen at Glencoe 300 years ago, and he can't get any leftist street cred for lying about any of that, so none of it matters to him. Sorry that you had to relive all that. Edited September 21, 2023 by WestCanMan Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth.
blackbird Posted September 21, 2023 Report Posted September 21, 2023 1 hour ago, eyeball said: What did the SC say when you enlightened them with that insight? Do you believe everything the Supreme Court says is right. Millions would disagree. Just for your information the SC ruled in favour of several damnable things. Correct me if I'm wrong. Going by memory. 1. Abortion 2. Medical assistance in dying. 3. Life sentences do not mean life necessarily. 4. Sikhs may carry daggers in public places and schools. The Charter of Rights and Freedoms turns 40: 10 important cases | National Post The reason for the rulings is because the SC is loaded with liberals who believe in liberalism/progressivism. Quote
Aristides Posted September 22, 2023 Report Posted September 22, 2023 (edited) https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/sikh-nijjar-india-canada-trudeau-modi-1.6974607 Quote The Canadian government has amassed both human and signals intelligence in a months-long investigation of a Sikh activist's death that has inflamed relations with India, sources tell CBC News. That intelligence includes communications involving Indian officials themselves, including Indian diplomats present in Canada, say Canadian government sources. The intelligence did not come solely from Canada. Some was provided by an unnamed ally in the Five Eyes intelligence alliance. Edited September 22, 2023 by Aristides Quote
CdnFox Posted September 22, 2023 Author Report Posted September 22, 2023 15 hours ago, betsy said: How come he's listed with the INTERPOL as the leader with regards to that bombing in Punjab?? I'd like to know why he was rejected to be in Canada for 2 or three times! Where do you see that he's listed as the leader of the org with interpol at all? and i dont know about his rejection the first time, but the second time he married a canadian 11 days after the first rejection and they said "nice try' Quote
CdnFox Posted September 22, 2023 Author Report Posted September 22, 2023 5 hours ago, WestCanMan said: There's a paywall to see this G&M article: The killing of Hardeep Singh Nijjar: A timeline of events Do you have access? Here - https://archive.ph/M7YWe Quote
WestCanMan Posted September 22, 2023 Report Posted September 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Here - https://archive.ph/M7YWe Thanks for that. There's not much in there from before 2022 though. I was more interested in Nijjar's personal past than in the recent shootings. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth.
CdnFox Posted September 22, 2023 Author Report Posted September 22, 2023 10 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Thanks for that. https://archive.ph/ That site defeats many paywalls, just say you want to save it and plug in the link, and if the article has already been saved it pops right up. If not then it attempts to do so. 1 Quote
Army Guy Posted September 22, 2023 Report Posted September 22, 2023 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: It didn't happen in his kitchen, it didn't happen at Glencoe 300 years ago, and he can't get any leftist street cred for lying about any of that, so none of it matters to him. Sorry that you had to relive all that. I am one of the lucky ones, I'm still alive , i got treatment for both my physical injuries and most importantly my mental health issue. Vet affairs was very good to me , got me hooked up to everything i needed, OSI clinic performed miracles when so many of my friends lost their battle with their demons...and my family never would have made it out without them, and then i had a lot of help from close friends that had also made it through...it takes a whole village as they say...and a lot of patients on their part... Reliving all of that is part of the treatment, until it does not control you anymore... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
eyeball Posted September 22, 2023 Report Posted September 22, 2023 (edited) 16 hours ago, blackbird said: Do you believe everything the Supreme Court says is right. Millions would disagree. Millions of chuds maybe but who cares what they think? The SC nailed it in Khadr's case. I certainly trust the SC more than I do Parliament or millions of deplorables. Edited September 22, 2023 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
SpankyMcFarland Posted September 22, 2023 Report Posted September 22, 2023 The govt should ensure it doesn’t help Modi and other adversaries in the details released. We don’t want them back doing a better job any time soon. Quote
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