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5 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Republicons may have sold you, but your opinion doesn't count. 

Left wing nutbars may have sold you but that's how English works.  What a shame your language skills are as bad as your math skills :) 

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t's going to be much more difficult to sell the non-MAGA CULT that a offer to testify is "refuse."

Nope. Everyone's calling it a refusal.

Hunter Biden appears on Capitol Hill but refuses to testify...

https://www.opb.org/article/2023/12/13/hunter-biden-appears-on-capitol-hill-but-refuses-to-testify-behind-closed-doors/

Hunter Biden is facing intense backlash after holding a Capitol Hill press conference on Wednesday in which he refused to sit for a deposition before Congress,

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-faces-backlash-defying-subpoena-press-conference-stunt-contempt

The President’s son refuses to sit down for a House deposition, courting a contempt citation.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/hunter-biden-subpoena-congress-press-conference-joe-biden-james-comer-jim-jordan-7c067abf

 

Sorry little guy - virtually all the media agrees :)  poor little huntie refused.

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On 12/19/2023 at 1:56 AM, robosmith said:

The FACT is, it is an agreement to testify under conditions. AKA, a negotiation.

Steve Bannon got arrested for ignoring a subpoena.

Trump's family members got subpoenas too...they showed up and testified.

But then none of these people have the kind of protection that Hunter clearly has.

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16 minutes ago, ironstone said:

Steve Bannon got arrested for ignoring a subpoena.

Trump's family members got subpoenas too...they showed up and testified.

But then none of these people have the kind of protection that Hunter clearly has.

Hunter isn't ignoring the subpoena, he just wants his testimony to be public. 

Seems the committee has a problem with transparency.

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16 minutes ago, ironstone said:

Steve Bannon got arrested for ignoring a subpoena.

Hunter DID NOT "ignore an subpoena." 

He offered to testify. Duh

16 minutes ago, ironstone said:

Trump's family members got subpoenas too...they showed up and testified.

Hunter showed up. Said he would testify.

16 minutes ago, ironstone said:

But then none of these people have the kind of protection that Hunter clearly has.

What kind is that? The freedom to negotiate about the conditions of his testimony?

Gym Jordan blew it off completely.

The thing is, you don't understand what is really clear about the House Republicons harassment of Hunter.

They have NO EVIDENCE against Joe and no other reason to believe there is any involvement of Joe in Hunter's business.

Also, there is NO LAW against paying for access. IF there were, Trump could be indicted more than a hundred more time for every one of his violations of the emoluments clause.

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8 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Hunter isn't ignoring the subpoena, he just wants his testimony to be public. 

Seems the committee has a problem with transparency.

I've already addressed this nonsensical point.

Maybe Steve Bannon should have tried the Hunter strategy?  Oh wait...he doesn't have the right surname.

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2 minutes ago, ironstone said:

He should have had a brief press conference in front of the Capitol, refuse to take questions and then scurry off.

We both know how that would have played out.

We shall see. Biden said that he would testify publicly. I don’t know why the Repugs are so afraid of public testimony.  Sounds as though they are determined to have a secret deposition which they can edit and selectively leak in order to skew what Biden said.  And I can see why he would oppose doing that.  We have a Fifth Amendment and since he is the target of their investigation he cannot be compelled to testify against himself. 

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2 hours ago, ironstone said:

I've already addressed this nonsensical point.

Maybe Steve Bannon should have tried the Hunter strategy?  Oh wait...he doesn't have the right surname.

Yes, Bannon should have responded to the subpoena instead of completely ignoring it. But he did not respond in any way.

In fact he fled the country and had to be arrested on a Chinese yacht at sea.

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2 hours ago, ironstone said:

You must own the most elaborate pair of rose coloured glasses on the planet.

 No, I just know the law. Paying for anything that's not illegal, is not illegal.

Show us the contract which specified that access would be DELIVERED.

Then there MIGHT be a case for FRAUD, IF the payee complains IN COURT.

1 hour ago, ironstone said:

He should have had a brief press conference in front of the Capitol, refuse to take questions and then scurry off.

We both know how that would have played out.

Yeah. If there was a case, the Republicons could have had him arrested on the spot. But no case exists, except in your imagination.

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4 hours ago, ironstone said:

He should have had a brief press conference in front of the Capitol, refuse to take questions and then scurry off.

We both know how that would have played out.

He could have said he would testify if it was public like Hunter. Instead he refused to testify at all. Just like Brooks, Biggs, Jackson, McCarthy, Perry and Jordan. Where was your outrage when they refused to testify?

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5 hours ago, Rebound said:

We shall see. Biden said that he would testify publicly. I don’t know why the Repugs are so afraid of public testimony.

So according to you, Hunter Biden can decide when, where, or even IF he will testify. To hell with a congressional subpoena right?

Does everyone have that same right or is it just Hunter?

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23 minutes ago, ironstone said:

So according to you, Hunter Biden can decide when, where, or even IF he will testify. To hell with a congressional subpoena right?

Does everyone have that same right or is it just Hunter?

Comer said Biden could testify publicly or privately, then he changed his mind. I think Biden should have shown up and said “Fifth Amendment” to every question. Ignoring a Congressional subpoena is a bad idea.  

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59 minutes ago, ironstone said:

How do you reconcile that one in light of Trump's fraud case in New York?

The laws governing fraud in NYS are unique to that state, like every other state. 

Not every case of contract fraud gains the attention of a state prosecutor in any state.

Mostly they are civil cases, but Trump's were so prolific and monumental, they garnered more attention.

Banks generally get special protection, IINM.

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6 hours ago, ironstone said:

So according to you, Hunter Biden can decide when, where, or even IF he will testify. To hell with a congressional subpoena right?

Does everyone have that same right or is it just Hunter?

These guys thought they did and refused to testify at all.  Brooks, Biggs, Jackson, McCarthy, Perry and Jordan.

Where were you then? 

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