Latest Abacus: HOLY SNIT - THE CPC ARE POLLING AT 40% and PP's APPROVAL IS IN THE GREEN!

[CdnFox]

https://archive.ph/7Ol7O

 

It just keeps going up!!!!!  CPC now COMFORTABLY into majority territory at 40 percent. 

AND LOOK AT FRIKKIN ONTARIO!

 

And for the first time - MORE PEOPLE HAVE  A POSITIVE IMPRESSION OF PP THAN NEGATIVE

 

It’s also worth noting that the Conservatives have a larger accessible voter pool than the Liberals. Today 51% of Canadians say they are open to voting Conservative compared with 46% for the Liberals and 44% for the NDP. For comparison, the accessible voter pool for the Conservatives at the start of the year (January 2023) was 47%.

[CdnFox]

The thing that's really encouraging for Conservative voters is that this increase is slow and steady and across the board.  It's happening everywhere all at once,  it's not a flash in the pan.

I think even changing leaders right now wouldn't prevent the libs from being defeated. People are actually deciding PP is someone worth voting for on his own merits, not just an alternative to trudeau.

If polievre keeps working it and gets his people out there as well and doesn't let off or assume the win, then this could be an absolutely epic landslide come election time.

[CdnFox]

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/millennials-nearly-twice-as-likely-to-vote-for-conservatives-over-liberals-new-survey-suggests/article_7875f9b4-c818-547e-bf68-0f443ba321dc.html

Millennials nearly twice as likely to vote for Conservatives over Liberals, new survey suggests

If only Gen Z and Millennials voted today, Justin Trudeau’s Liberals would fall to third-party status, a new Abacus Data survey found.

Canadian millennials are nearly twice as likely to vote for Pierre Poilievre’s Conservatives than Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s governing Liberals, according to new polling from Abacus Data.

The new survey of more than 2,000 adults, published last Thursday, also suggests the Liberals would fall to third-party status if an election was held today among Canada’s two youngest generation of voters.

[ExFlyer]

Polls, more than 2 years out are pretty meaningless.

Conservatives were way ahead in the last 3 elections too.

The best we can hope for is that it actually sticks but....not much counts until election day.

[Moonbox]

I think it's only going to get worse for the Liberals in the next two years.  Justin is so absolutely tone-deaf and clueless on most of the issues that the Conservatives could put @Army Guy's hamster as the leader and they'd probably in.  

Pierre Poilievre just has to be a normal HUMAN and not say anything scary, and it'll be another Ignatieff-style loss for the Liberals.  

[eyeball]

13 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Pierre Poilievre just has to be a normal HUMAN and not say anything scary, and it'll be another Ignatieff-style loss for the Liberals.  

So it'll be no more pronouns, climate change, inflation, corruption etc?  PP will make everything right as rain?

Okay.  I think there'll be a lot of strategic voting going on in the next election.

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Conversely, though a Conservative majority is the most preferred choice, it is also the most feared one. When presented with the same options and asked to evaluate which one would be worst for the country, more than two-in-five (43%) say a Conservative majority. A similar number (38%) believe a Liberal majority would be the worst possible government Canada could have over the next four years.

https://angusreid.org/trudeau-poilievre-best-prime-minister-liberals-conservatives-approval/

 

 

[myata]

And then... (no crystal ball, just reading old papers)

The government will rule by hands, without any checks and controls; transparency neither (if you don't mean circus "Circus period")

It will become lazy, bored and arrogant;

It will allow itself screw ups of increasing proportion, being lazy and arrogant and out of all checks and controls;

It won't fix any essential problems no matter how much public money they throw at it (and for itself, how else)

The populace will get bored, looking for a change";

Et voila: we have another "landslide victory"

Managing from screw up to screw up: the best in the world

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

Polls, more than 2 years out are pretty meaningless.

No, they have a great deal of meaning. Especially as trend lines over time. Any ONE poll doesn't but collectively they paint a very real picture.

That's why were seeing editorials every other day begging trudeau to step down.

This is the latest in a series of polls from MULTIPLE pollsters showing a constant and steady increase in all metrics for the cpc.

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Conservatives were way ahead in the last 3 elections too.

NO they WEREN'T!!! LOL -  hell the last election the liberals were so far ahead they though they were going to get a majority! That's WHY justin called the election!

The CPC went up strongly at first and then fizzled, but they were definitely behind at the start. Justin called it thinking that he had it in the bag when he called it.

Obviously things change and the election is a long way off.  But - there can be little doubt the polls indicate that PP is becoming widely accepted and people are liking him. The cpc has a serious chance at a majority.

[ExFlyer]

21 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

No, they have a great deal of meaning. Especially as trend lines over time. Any ONE poll doesn't but collectively they paint a very real picture.

That's why were seeing editorials every other day begging trudeau to step down.

This is the latest in a series of polls from MULTIPLE pollsters showing a constant and steady increase in all metrics for the cpc.

NO they WEREN'T!!! LOL -  hell the last election the liberals were so far ahead they though they were going to get a majority! That's WHY justin called the election!

The CPC went up strongly at first and then fizzled, but they were definitely behind at the start. Justin called it thinking that he had it in the bag when he called it.

Obviously things change and the election is a long way off.  But - there can be little doubt the polls indicate that PP is becoming widely accepted and people are liking him. The cpc has a serious chance at a majority.

2015    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2015_Canadian_federal_election

2019  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2019_Canadian_federal_election

2021  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2021_Canadian_federal_election

 

So far ahead?

Manipulate away LOL

Beginning of blue wave or just a summer fling? Conservatives meet amid polling boost

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/beginning-blue-wave-just-summer-080000198.html

Edited September 7, 2023 by ExFlyer

[WestCanMan]

The CBC, Global, and CTV must be in crisis mode right now. They can't push any harder.

What will these cornered rats pull out of their asses to save their Golden Boy? 

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, ExFlyer said:

2015    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2015_Canadian_federal_election

2019  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2019_Canadian_federal_election

2021  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2021_Canadian_federal_election

 

Manipulate away LOL

Um - first one shows the ndp in the lead. Not the cpc

And all of them are DURING the election, not before

And the third one shows the liberals with a massive lead.

 Did you.. ahh .. actually READ these before posting?

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

The CBC, Global, and CTV must be in crisis mode right now. They can't push any harder.

What will these cornered rats pull out of their asses to save their Golden Boy? 

CBC has already been going as hard against ANY conservative gov't as they can for some time now. Look at what they tried to pull with Smith during the alberta election, only admitting to unethical journalism AFTER the election was over.

 

[ExFlyer]

34 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Um - first one shows the ndp in the lead. Not the cpc

And all of them are DURING the election, not before

And the third one shows the liberals with a massive lead.

 Did you.. ahh .. actually READ these before posting?

Not going to argue with you. The polls were months before the election.

Point was, liberals won,

[Moonbox]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

So it'll be no more pronouns, climate change, inflation, corruption etc?  PP will make everything right as rain?

I'm not saying anything about PP other than that it would take monumental stupidity and foolishness to lose the next election.  

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

Okay.  I think there'll be a lot of strategic voting going on in the next election.

You grossly overestimate how well-informed and motivated the average voter is, and particularly the younger generations who have/will come to tire and grow dis-illusioned with him.  I suspect they'll just not bother going to the polls at all.  Jaghmeet Singh is unelectable.  

The one thing you can always count on for conservatives, is that they generally show up at the polls.  

Edited September 7, 2023 by Moonbox

[Army Guy]

3 hours ago, Moonbox said:

I think it's only going to get worse for the Liberals in the next two years.  Justin is so absolutely tone-deaf and clueless on most of the issues that the Conservatives could put @Army Guy's hamster as the leader and they'd probably in.  

Pierre Poilievre just has to be a normal HUMAN and not say anything scary, and it'll be another Ignatieff-style loss for the Liberals.  

With the convention getting underway, i think the Cons are in for a loss in the polls, this convention is where the media is going to get into a feeding frenzy, they will have access to all the wacky ideas that come form the far right, right , center right, we all know that not all the ideas will become reality, or even into the party play book,  but that won't stop the media from charging ahead and making head lines where there is none. Happens with all conventions for any of the party's ...

And those in the center being a little skittish will jump the conservative train...And the cons will face loss in the polls...Like anything in Canada, it will be quickly forgotten and the media will move onto something else...but the liberals won't let these ideas go, and they will ride them to the beach taking advantage of them while they can...

Conservatives will bounce back, Liberals can be counted on to turn media focus on themselves, via another gaff, or scandal.. Besides election is not until 2025, anything can happen.  

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

CBC has already been going as hard against ANY conservative gov't as they can for some time now. Look at what they tried to pull with Smith during the alberta election, only admitting to unethical journalism AFTER the election was over.

49% of people already knew that the news was fake. https://www.cbc.ca/news/editorsblog/editor-blog-trust-1.5936535

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• 49 per cent of Canadians surveyed agree that journalists and reporters are purposely trying to mislead people by saying things they know are false or gross exaggerations (emphasis mine). 

• 52 per cent agree that most news organizations are more concerned with supporting an ideology or political position than with informing the public.

Approximately 95% of those people would identify as "conservatives".

https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/cbc-retracts-report-on-danielle-smith-interference 

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Smith had challenged the veracity of the CBC email claims from the start, noting officials could find no evidence of such correspondence and that CBC News itself had stated it had not seen the emails in question.

 

CBC stood by its reporting for months, but in Wednesday’s note stated Trussler’s finding of no evidence to support the existence of the emails prompted it to review the matter anew and reach a new conclusion.

Post-election truths and pre-election truths may vary, right @Michael Hardner? Is that what you meant by "conflicting truths"? 

Edited September 7, 2023 by WestCanMan

[Nexii]

CPC could still shoot themselves in the foot over social issues. Though I think the fundamentals for their rise such as poor economic conditions, inefficient government systems, mixed climate record, etc will persist. Liberals don't seem to have a coherent plan to fix anything right now. Nor does the NDP, it's like they are asleep too.

That being said it's hard to get too excited when things are this bad. Even if CPC somehow does a great job with reform we'll be lucky to get back to 1990s living standards

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

Not going to argue with you. The polls were months before the election.

Point was, liberals won,

Go read the dates    LOL it's right there And the cpc wasn't even ahead in two of them even at the start of the election. 

Point was - the cpc wasn't ahead.  ANd dont' be silly - your argument is that trudeau was badly dragging in the polls and therefore launched an election he  didn't need to? Pfft - c'mon.

But the bigger point is that while things can always change, it's certainly is looking like a very solid base of support is building up for the CPC. It's been half a year of steady solid growth numbers that haven't peaked yet.

And that strongly suggests that even changing horses probably won't save the libs next election, tho it might lessen the damage.

[Michael Hardner]

At this point, It might be a better strategy for Pierre to drop in the polls a bit so that Justin isn't shoved out.

[ExFlyer]

44 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Go read the dates    LOL it's right there And the cpc wasn't even ahead in two of them even at the start of the election. 

Point was - the cpc wasn't ahead.  ANd dont' be silly - your argument is that trudeau was badly dragging in the polls and therefore launched an election he  didn't need to? Pfft - c'mon.

But the bigger point is that while things can always change, it's certainly is looking like a very solid base of support is building up for the CPC. It's been half a year of steady solid growth numbers that haven't peaked yet.

And that strongly suggests that even changing horses probably won't save the libs next election, tho it might lessen the damage.

Well, it is not election time. So, play in the pointless pool...um err poll LOL

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, Moonbox said:

You grossly overestimate how well-informed and motivated the average voter is,

I don't know, I think when anywhere from 38-43% of voters have taken the time to consider that a majority government would be the worst outcome it suggests voters may be better informed than you've allowed for.

[Moonbox]

6 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I don't know, I think when anywhere from 38-43% of voters have taken the time to consider that a majority government would be the worst outcome it suggests voters may be better informed than you've allowed for.

Those aren't all voters, and therein lies what's been a long and storied problem for the NDP and the Liberals as compared to the Conservatives.  

Providing an often ill-informed opinion is a lot easier than actually informing yourself and actually getting away from your screen and voting.  

[eyeball]

56 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Those aren't all voters, and therein lies what's been a long and storied problem for the NDP and the Liberals as compared to the Conservatives.  

Younger voters - who are chiming in with intentions to vote Conservative.

I have no doubt Conservatives will win. Have fun with it. I'm sure it'll be just like reaching the Promised Land.

The real pity is that the government gets in no matter what.

 

Edited September 7, 2023 by eyeball

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Well, it is not election time. So, play in the pointless pool...um err poll LOL

LOL aww bud ... i'm sure the libs will be popular again some day, and there's a reasonable chance you'll still be alive when it happens so hang in there  

[PIK]

Time for the NDP to strike. See if Singh has the gonads to bring him down.

Edited September 8, 2023 by PIK