FIRST THEY CAME

[NYLefty]

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

 

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.

 

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

 

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

 

—Martin Niemöller

Seemed a little far out only a few years ago

[NYLefty]

2 hours ago, Contrarian said:

Alright, let's get back to reality.

In France, 2023, some union members, and some socialists that control the jobs are impeding employment opportunities for new immigrants, seemingly based on racial considerations. Now, the hypocrisy, the unions, who are typically regarded as advocates for workers' rights, have formed alliances with marginalized immigrant youths who struggle to secure jobs, the same ones that are rumored they deny them. Together, they are directing their frustrations toward President Macron and various institutions, and cars. 

The situation has escalated to the point where even the grandmother felt compelled to publicly appeal, urging them to cease the riots.

Not sure what this has to do with anything.

[herbie]

The quote is not comparing union members and socialists to Jews, it poinrs out the progression of the repression.
It came for more and more and became more and more severe.
That is what it says to watch for.

Like

first it came for the trannies
then it came for the drag queens
the it came for all gay people

first it came for the terrorists
then it came for the followers of Islam
then it came for all brown people

first they condemned the communists
then they condemned all the socialists
but I don't have to worry, no one will go after Dippers next...

[NYLefty]

3 hours ago, Contrarian said:

My opinion is that you are trying to paint, in 2023, socialists and union members as some sort of victims as the Jews were once, meanwhile, it seems they are doing quite fine, looking for alliances everywhere and engaged in violence even though FBI and other legal authorities are doing the work. 

Nobody is coming for you, is my point, unless you cross that line, Do you think in France those union workers will get away with it? What will happen is, after all this will settle down, that video footage will be analyzed and as the FBI did after Jan 6th ->, they will do their own Jan 6th for the left-wing <-. 

Who is coming for you?!

If you were even the slightest bit versed in history you'd know that the man who wrote this "Lived This". And the rights ideology has changed little since that time. 

[Rebound]

47 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

I see, so what is your solution? except for this: 

https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/capitol-violence

What does the system or others need to do against the right, more than today? To be ok in your books?

VOTE FOR THEIR OPPOSITION, DAMNIT!!!

[Michael Hardner]

2 minutes ago, Rebound said:

VOTE FOR THEIR OPPOSITION, DAMNIT!!!

Is there a Candidate who is vowing to destroy the right? ?

[Army Guy]

2 hours ago, NYLefty said:

If you were even the slightest bit versed in history you'd know that the man who wrote this "Lived This". And the rights ideology has changed little since that time. 

Written for a time where evil seemed to rule the world...do you think it was the left that stood up and stopped this evil from taking root in the world...or perhaps a combined effort left and right as history suggests... not sure how the right figures into this...or how the rights ideology is effecting your life on this planet of ours...

 

[Zeitgeist]

10 hours ago, NYLefty said:

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

 

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.

 

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

 

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

 

—Martin Niemöller

Seemed a little far out only a few years ago

Are you equating not mutilating kids or immediately affirming behind parents’ backs the new identities of kids who think this week that they may want to transition to another gender with the mass murder of Jews?

[NYLefty]

7 hours ago, Army Guy said:

Written for a time where evil seemed to rule the world...do you think it was the left that stood up and stopped this evil from taking root in the world...or perhaps a combined effort left and right as history suggests... not sure how the right figures into this...or how the rights ideology is effecting your life on this planet of ours...

 

Revisionism at its finest. Charming how right wingers see no comparisons to Hitlers 3rd Reich ideals and themselves. 

[NYLefty]

7 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

Are you equating not mutilating kids or immediately affirming behind parents’ backs the new identities of kids who think this week that they may want to transition to another gender with the mass murder of Jews?  

 

You really need to give hysterical right wing media sources a break.

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, NYLefty said:

Revisionism at its finest. Charming how right wingers see no comparisons to Hitlers 3rd Reich ideals and themselves. 

It's not revisionist at all. You can...and will...go on trying to sell your lies and destructive temper tantrums. Weak minded twits will usually agree with your college trained activism.

Affirmative Action...is dead. Biden's attempt to buy the votes of young activists like yourself...is dead. Your attempt to corrupt elections...is dead. Your federal mandate for baby killing...is dead.

Awwwe...poor Tweenkie...are you upset? Mad that the gr'ups won't let you drag America down into the mud, are you? That's cute.

Now run along and play with your Tweenkie friends. There's a good lad.

[Guest]

12 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Is there a Candidate who is vowing to destroy the right? ?

Why vow anything when you can do it through policy and the media ?‍♂️

[CdnFox]

23 hours ago, NYLefty said:

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

 

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.

 

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

 

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

 

 

Seemed a little far out only a few years ago

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because the socialists were threatening everyone else and cancelled everyone who disagreed. They really had to go. .

 

Then they came for the trannies, and I did not speak out—because they demanded that i be locked up if i didn't use their preferred pronoun and refused to let me live in peace. They demanded we bow to their demands and worship them. They had to go.

 

Then they came for the gays, and I did not speak out—because they demanded the right to waive their penises in children's faces. That had to stop.

 

Then nobody came for me - because it turned out the gays, trans and severe left wingers were the only ones 'coming' for anybody in the first place.

 

—Most Canadians and Americans

Edited July 4, 2023 by CdnFox

[Nationalist]

FIRST THEY CAME.

Then she said to @NYLefty, "Is that it?"

[CdnFox]

5 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

FIRST THEY CAME.

Then she said to @NYLefty, "Is that it?"

You are a terrible terrible hilarious terrible person.

[reason10]

19 hours ago, herbie said:

The quote is not comparing union members and socialists to Jews, it poinrs out the progression of the repression.
It came for more and more and became more and more severe.
That is what it says to watch for.

Like

first it came for the trannies
then it came for the drag queens
the it came for all gay people

first it came for the terrorists
then it came for the followers of Islam
then it came for all brown people

first they condemned the communists
then they condemned all the socialists
but I don't have to worry, no one will go after Dippers next...

Problem with this incorrect analogy is assuming the socialists were EVER the victims.

They were the ones coming for everyone else.

[reason10]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because the socialists were threatening everyone else and cancelled everyone who disagreed. They really had to go. .

 

Then they came for the trannies, and I did not speak out—because they demanded that i be locked up if i didn't use their preferred pronoun and refused to let me live in peace. They demanded we bow to their demands and worship them. They had to go.

 

Then they came for the gays, and I did not speak out—because they demanded the right to waive their penises in children's faces. That had to stop.

 

Then nobody came for me - because it turned out the gays, trans and severe left wingers were the only ones 'coming' for anybody in the first place.

 

—Most Canadians and Americans

Severe left wingers were the ones who came, (from Nazi National Socialists to Stalin Communists. Socialists have NEVER been anything but aggressors. Queers and trannies couldn't be bothered to help out.

[WestCanMan]

On 7/3/2023 at 8:15 AM, NYLefty said:

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

 

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.

 

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

 

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

 

—Martin Niemöller

Seemed a little far out only a few years ago

First they forced the members of the military to take the pseudovax and I did't speak out because I wasn't a member of the military...

Stop acting like you're ahead of the game, racist. 

[CdnFox]

16 minutes ago, reason10 said:

Severe left wingers were the ones who came, (from Nazi National Socialists to Stalin Communists. Socialists have NEVER been anything but aggressors. Queers and trannies couldn't be bothered to help out.

The problem with socialism and socialistic models is that they require everyone to behave more or less the same. There's not a lot of room for contrary opinions or behaviors because you can't control your utopia unless you control all the people's behavior.  So they HAVE to 'come' for those who are outside their window of 'acceptable' thinking.

Now the trans and the gays are the ones 'coming' for people.  "Give us your female sports teams or we'll cancel you".  "Give us your washrooms and if that makes you uncomfortable we'll cancel you. "use the words we tell you to or we'll cancel you". 

Give us your children.

so - they're actually the ones people are speaking out against

[WestCanMan]

8 hours ago, NYLefty said:

Revisionism at its finest. Charming how right wingers see no comparisons to Hitlers 3rd Reich ideals and themselves. 

If you can't see the parallels between the Nazi gesundheitspass and the Cdn Nazi gesundheitspass, the characterization of political enemies as diseased by Hitler and Trudeau, Hitler and Trudeau blocking the bank accounts of political enemies, the hate speeches by Trudeau (and Biden) and Hitler, the iron grip on media between Canada and Nazi Germany, the end of free speech in those countries, the book-burning, censorship, gov't-led disinformation campaigns, etc then stop talking about Naziism. You don't even know what it is. 

Edited July 4, 2023 by WestCanMan

[Legato]

9 hours ago, NYLefty said:

Revisionism at its finest. Charming how right wingers see no comparisons to Hitlers 3rd Reich ideals and themselves. 

Godwin's Law makes your argument invalid. That is, unless you're arguing with yourself. Even then you will always lose.

[herbie]

The boneheads continue with their Nazis are left wingers shit. No point talking to people so utterly stupid.

[Rebound]

On 7/3/2023 at 6:37 PM, Michael Hardner said:

Is there a Candidate who is vowing to destroy the right? ?

There will always be more and less conservative, so there will always be some form of right.  “Destroy” has nothing to do with it; we simply need a large enough majority in Congress to protect our climate, outlaw assault weapons, protect women’s health and put moderates on the Supreme Court. 

[Michael Hardner]

1 minute ago, Rebound said:

There will always be more and less conservative, so there will always be some form of right.  “Destroy” has nothing to do with it; we simply need a large enough majority in Congress to protect our climate, outlaw assault weapons, protect women’s health and put moderates on the Supreme Court. 

So ... No? ?

[Rebound]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

So ... No? ?

The only way to destroy the Right or the Left is to eliminate democracy in America.  And there is no candidate I know of on the left who wishes to do that. 

Edited July 5, 2023 by Rebound