Is Leftism a kind of Religion?

[Americana Antifa]

41 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

1) It should be a serious crime for a violent extremist to be in a position of authority over children, right?

Sure. But I'm only violent in the bedroom. No criminal record here. ☺️

41 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I'd freak if I found out my son's teacher was in the KKK

No you wouldn't.

41 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

2) Those vaccines are for viruses which still exist that can kill children. The effectiveness and safety of those vaccines is nearly 100%. 

I get why you'd wanna carry those viruses to a school, being a violent extremist and all, maybe that's why there's a law that prevents you from doing 'your thing'. 

Wait. So you're agreeing with me, that we're right for having these vaccine laws which were around long before covid, but you're also accusing me of wanting to bring viruses to a school?

I legit don't know what you're arguing here.

[Americana Antifa]

22 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

sorry to hear that.

I know, right? Why can't we just get rid of all the public health laws. What's the worst that could happen?

[Americana Antifa]

32 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Are you denying that Antifa has violent extremists? 

Every movement has at least a few violent extremists. Right-wing media tries to discredit Antifa by focusing on the fringe violence, just like they did in the sixties with the civil rights movement of that era. And it's the same thing with mass shootings. Cis men are vastly overrepresented when it comes to mass shooters, but right-wing media is focusing on the fringe cases to try to make people think this is being caused by trans rights.

32 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

That's like saying that you could be part of the KKK but you're still a good person because you don't participate in any lynchings.

There are two big differences there. 

1) The original KKK was an organization, whereas Antifa was always a loose movement with no central leadership. In the KKK, you wouldn't get kicked out for terrorism. With Antifa, since it's a movement, we can't exactly kick out the few bad seeds.

2) All of the KKK groups today were founded on the ideology of the original KKK, which was about using terrorism to create a white Protestant theocracy. So while technically it's possible for a modern KKK group to be against violence, the reason they adopted the name and imagery is because they believe in at least most of the original group's ideology. Whereas Antifa was founded on the idea of deplatforming public promotion of fascism and nazism.

[CdnFox]

6 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

I know, right? Why can't we just get rid of all the public health laws. What's the worst that could happen?

Well lets think about that.

You're suggesting that in essense nobody should have a right to their body. So it should be fine for an employer AFTER you've been hired to require you to undergo whatever medical proceedures they think are a good idea.

So... what if after working there for a time you found out you got pregnant? And teh employer said "Well you have to have an abortion or be fired with no benefits or pension".

I mean - there's a lot of scientific evidence to suggest single parenting is a cause of a lot of social issues. And of course you can't work effectively when you're dealing with a baby.  And you've just insisted it's not pressure to do so and that if a boss puts those condiitons in after you're hired it's fair....

Sound pretty good so far does it?

How about after you're hired he demands that you take birth control pills or get fired? Get 'vaccinated' against pregnancy?

That'd be ok right? Forcing women to take hormones? Oh --- but of course it isn't 'forcing' is it. So what if a woman can't find a job and has to live in poverty , that's her choice right?

Do you see how dumb what you're saying is? The moment we say that people don't have the right to make a free choice as to what happens with their bodies we step in to  a VERY dangerous circumstance.  Especially if it wasn't part of the conditions of employment to begin with.

In canada every worker also pays into an unemployment insurance, in case they become suddenly unemployed due to the business having to shut down or a sudden illness or for some other reason they can't work anymore.  ANd the gov't even went so far as to take that away from unvacinated people. Saying that if you lost your job because you were unvaccinated then you would not be allowed insurance that you paid for. Brand new rule for covid.

You're in the wrong here. And if the same ideas are applied to women you're going to be very upset you didn't oppose that kind of thinking earlier,

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Did you want to try again'? Maybe with thinking this time?

No. I posted it in plain English. Do you know how to use a dictionary?

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No. I posted it in plain English. Do you know how to use a dictionary?

Oh it's not that i coudln't understand what you were saying. It's that what you were saying is dumb. And vague.  I thought you might like to try saying something that ISN"T retarded.

But, y'know, if retarded is working for ya then go with that.  You do you.

[eyeball]

2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Oh it's not that i coudln't understand what you were saying. It's that what you were saying is dumb. And vague.  I thought you might like to try saying something that ISN"T retarded.

But, y'know, if retarded is working for ya then go with that.  You do you.

It isn't retarded, but when your assessment is based on your assumptions about me and the left plus your predilection for hyperbole it's easy to see why you'd think that. But that's one you not me.

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

It isn't retarded, but when your assessment is based on your assumptions about me and the left plus your predilection for hyperbole it's easy to see why you'd think that. But that's one you not me.

Well it is retarded of course.  You say the unvaxxed affected the vaxxed - you are asked 'how'  - and your response is "Duuhhh i use plane inglrish. U no use dictonery".

Well...  that doesn't say how, does it. Confusing the language that you used for the lack of information that language imparts is not particularly intelligent.

Being insulting on top of being dumb really is what puts it over the edge to retarded

And we already discussed why your tax example was dumb. \

So it's not based on my perception of you, it's based on the reality of your words.

So - did you want to give another example that ISN'T dumb? Or explain how the anti vaxxed forced other people to do things? Or did you just want to stick with retarded? Nutbar's choice.

[WestCanMan]

20 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

Sure. But I'm only violent in the bedroom. No criminal record here. ☺️

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No you wouldn't.

You must realize how sad it is, that your best comeback is just to make a cile, baseless accusation against somebody else, right?

Doesn’t it suck that people can say the exact thing about you and everybody knows that it’s true? You actually are a violent extremist and do you think that’s cool.

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Wait. So you're agreeing with me, that we're right for having these vaccine laws which were around long before covid, but you're also accusing me of wanting to bring viruses to a school?

What do you fail to understand is that you’re comparing

1) actual, working vaccines that have nearly 100% success rate of saving peoples lives from viruses which will actually kill them, to

2) a pseudo vaccine, which was proven not to work almost instantly after it came out, and forcing that on people who actually don’t need it at all.

 

If Covid actually was killing healthy 25 year olds, and the vaccine had actually be proven to be reasonably effective instead of failing completely in Israel, do you think that we would have had to force people to take the vaccine?
 

If it was even preventing people from getting/spreading Covid, do you think that we would’ve had to force 25 year olds to take it?

Of course not. But it obviously wasn’t preventing people from spreading Covid if so many people were getting sick enough to die from it. In fact it wasn’t an actual vaccine at all, so of course people didn’t want to take it. 
 

Unlike you, being the credulous person that you are, some people are pretty good at figuring out when they’ve been lied to, and they don’t respond kindly to it.

so no, what I’m talking about is nothing like your dream scenario where you could be infected with a deadly disease and then go infect children and kill them.

Yeah, I do think it makes a lot of sense to have a requirement for people to be vaccinated against things that will kill children if they’re going to work with hundreds and hundreds of children. Call me a fascist if you must.

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, Americana Antifa said:

Every movement has at least a few violent extremists.

No, they don’t. Are you insane?

FYI, not a lot of people throw on black clothes and masks and go throw Molotov cocktails and shoot fireworks at the police. I would never be a part of a group that did that. 
 

no one is making shit up about antifa (OK, maybe I stand corrected, Nadler was saying that antifa doesn’t actually exist so there’s that).
 

Antifa members really are that stupid, that violent, and you choose to support them. That’s exactly where we’re at. Full stop. You are, by choice, a part of a violent extremist group.

[CdnFox]

6 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

No, they don’t. Are you insane?

FYI, not a lot of people throw on black clothes and masks and go throw Molotov cocktails and shoot fireworks at the police. I would never be a part of a group that did that.

That's the thing. The left and groups like antifa like to excuse their violence and hatred by claiming that it's just normal and it's not EVERYBODY and what can you expect.

But the reality is that if they DIDN'T support that violence they would disassociate themselves with those groups.  ANd the violence is pretty prevalent.

If a conservative type of person does something wrong the other conservatives say "That guy did wrong, lock him up we want nothing to do with him!!"

When someeone on the left does it they literally say 'oh well, everybody's got some violent loons in their orgs" and start rounding up bail money for them. 

Sorry - but that makes them accomplices and enablers.

6 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Antifa members really are that stupid, that violent, and you choose to support them. That’s exactly where we’re at. Full stop. You are, by choice, a part of a violent extremist group.

Precisely.

[herbie]

6 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

On 4/12/2023 at 10:31 AM, WestCanMan said:

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I was working in a school in 2018, before covid. In order to be there, I had to prove that I was vaccinated against a bunch of diseases.

Did the government FORCE me to get vaccinated?

Don't waste your breath with these pinheads. They insist they were forced to be vaxxed but they didn't and still claim they were. Whiney babies acting like Holocaust victims, who's personal eccentricities were more important to impose on others and above their job or providing for their families.

[WestCanMan]

44 minutes ago, herbie said:

Don't waste your breath with these pinheads. They insist they were forced to be vaxxed but they didn't and still claim they were. Whiney babies acting like Holocaust victims, who's personal eccentricities were more important to impose on others and above their job or providing for their families.

All you're doing is proving that leftism is your religion:

-you're unable to think objectively about the vaccine for no other reason than you were told to worship it by your false prophets.

Others who don't kneel at the altar are just wrong in your eyes and no amount of evidence about the pseudovax's failures can ever get through to you. 

Fact 1) Covid deaths never went down at all after 85% of the population was vaxed, in fact they went up by 25%, and

Fact 2) almost 90% of covid deaths were among the vaxed in 2022. Half of those vaxers had several doses.

Fact 3) Your false prophets (the MSM and leftist politicians) stopped talking about the number of covid deaths in 2022 even though it was killing far more people than ever before.

If they cared about people so much that they wanted the economy shut down and schools closed in 2020 and 2021, then why did they suddenly not care in 2022 when FAR MORE PEOPLE WERE DYING?

What do you make of all that? 

 

You've been called out and as usual, you have no answers, so it's time for you to run away again...

[WestCanMan]

21 hours ago, Goddess said:

Nope.  Just have followed the experts who have been right about everything all along.  And I have have enjoyed reading medical studies and journals for many years, since my time in healthcare.  So it jives with my interests.

 

Did that dummy unleash his "even more detailed reports!!!!"?

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

So it's not based on my perception of you, it's based on the reality of your words.

Which is that unvaccinated people are more likely to be diseased than vaccinated people, ergo...

Maybe you've been putting to much stock in WasteCanMan's notions. Apparently he was strapped to a gurney by agents of the state and vaccinated...you know forced forced.

[WestCanMan]

41 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

It's clear that you don't work in real life or virtual, nothing of value to bring. You are probably living with the help of Uncle Sugar, and it's frustrating to think that my hard-earned money is being used to support someone who spends their time polluting the internet. 

Unlike you, I actually work hard to earn my money, while you waste your time saying nonsense. If you were in Ancient Rome, you would be a street sweeper, but here you have free access to the internet, which you use to spew your uneducated opinions. How? By my taxes.

And yet, still found time to do the work for this hobby, will be a series, once a day, in the morning:

https://repolitics.com/forums/topic/42279-first-a-tricklenow-a-flood/?do=findComment&comment=1585545

1) We run a business and we probably pay more in taxes than you earn

2) What you posted there has nothing at all to do with vax efficacy. Were you just trying to prove how stupid you are? 

[WestCanMan]

36 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

To the Covid-19 manipulator above: Your extreme case of follower syndrome is evident.

I've stats and articles from the LPOC's most trusted left-wing rag to prove my points, you're still just throwing around sandbox insults. 

Everyone knows what is "evident" here.

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I have even deprived you of the ability to mock my English since there are no grammar mistakes. 

Now that the grammatical errors are gone we no longer have to guess how stupid your comments are.

[WestCanMan]

Just now, Contrarian said:

I'm talking on that thread about 20 points.

Who cares how many points you mention if they're all just stupid and wrong? It just makes you even more stupid and wrong....

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I don't understand what you said about those % still,

OMG, it's high school algebra, not calculus. No one who graduated HS has an excuse for not being able to follow. 

[WestCanMan]

3 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

Troll, there is no "we". Most people have you on ignore, one probably needs your vote, and three are part of your crew.

No one worth listening to has me on ignore, and the only reason anyone would have me on ignore is that I spend to much time here responding to trolls like you. 

The fact remains that, now that you have an app to translate your gibberish into English, your stupidity is easier to decipher. 

Back on topic:

You're here proving that leftism is a religion, a cult even, because it has exposed your complete unwillingness to consider the very evident flaws of the pseudovax. 

1) If the clotshot was a vax then covid deaths should have gone down dramatically in 2022 instead of going up by 24%. Can you speak to this?

2) If the clotshot was a vax then less than 85.7% of covid deaths in 2022 should have come from the multi-vaxed. Can you speak to this?

Covid deaths never missed a beat during or after the vax campaign. There's not a virologist or epidemiologist anywhere on earth who would look at our weekly death toll chart in Canada and say "This is where the vax campaign started, this is where we hit 85% vaxed..." 

It was a complete failure. Deaths went up. You have no answers, no guesses, no cites, no stats... Nothing but snotty insults and your leftist dogma. 

[WestCanMan]

11 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

Troll, believe me, I know your game. All you have is a keyboard. You, a businessman?

Hahahahahahahaha.

My friend, don't talk about income. Trust me, you probably don't even know the basics of the market.

I honestly don't give a crap what you think, all you do with every post is show how much of a troll you are.

I'll give you to the end of today to finally comment on:

1) how/why you think that covid deaths went up so sharply in 2022 after 85% of Canadians were vaxed

2) why almost 90% of covid deaths were among the multi-vaxed, as death were climbing...

then you're going back on ignore. I'm here to discuss facts with open-minded, intelligent people, not wallow in the muck with trolls like you. 

1 and 2.

Address those items directly and succinctly, with a rational, thoughtful answer, or I'm done with you and your leftist dogma. 

[CdnFox]

58 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Which is that unvaccinated people are more likely to be diseased than vaccinated people, ergo...

Well as it turns out that's not true. You'd have to demonstrate that. Aside from the very beginning, the vaccine hasn't really done much for transmission, Unvaxxed people catch and transmit just as much. The vaccine only helps prevent serious illness.

And secondly you would still have to explain how that 'forced' anyone to do anything

 

58 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Maybe you've been putting to much stock in WasteCanMan's notions. Apparently he was strapped to a gurney by agents of the state and vaccinated...you know forced forced.

Well be that as it may, you're doing a lot of dodging around the subject

As far as forced goes as discussed coersion is legally recognized as force - a 'choice' where the choice is coerced is not generally considered an actual choice. And i'm sure you could see why.

So - people were forced. That's pretty hard to dispute. You could argue that was appropriate given the circumstances if you want to but that's a different argument,

So your lack of answer shows you don't really think that the unvaxxed "forced" anyone to do anything. 

[eyeball]

5 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

So your lack of answer shows you don't really think that the unvaxxed "forced" anyone to do anything. 

No, it clearly shows that's exactly what I think. You simply don't agree which is fine, but what you don't get to do is pretend you're too stupid to understand English.

But hey, keep trying, maybe one day you'll finally convince me.

 

[CdnFox]

4 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No, it clearly shows that's exactly what I think.

Well the answer was vague and nonsensical, so i guess that's kind of true your thinking is vague and nonsensical.

 

4 minutes ago, eyeball said:

You simply don't agree which is fine, but what you don't get to do is pretend you're too stupid to understand English.

As was mentioned, the english isn't the problem. This would go faster if you paid attention.

The issue is you can't suggest any way that the unvaxxed forced people to do anything and still can't to this miniute.

4 minutes ago, eyeball said:

But hey, keep trying, maybe one day you'll finally convince me.

 

Convince you of what? You're the one who was trying to convince me of how these unvaxxed people were 'forcing' others to do things ... and you still can't! It's not a difficult question. HOW are they forcing anyone to do anything?

It's beginning to look like you're the one with the comprehension problem.

[WestCanMan]

27 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

Troll, I am currently engaged in a debate on 20 different points with Goddess. Civilized debate. 

Unlike you, I am not a puppy dog who reports to others. I work on my own timeline. Your behaviour alone tells me that you don't have the DNA of a real businessman. You are simply a follower. And soon enough, if I become more aggressive, weaklings like you might start following me too.

It's a case of follower flaw. A flawed follower machine. 

Stop wriggling, worm.

It should be easy to respond to two simple questions if you know half as much as you claim to, and the link that you keep posting here just goes to more of your weaselling in a different thread. 

I'll give you to the end of today to finally comment on:

1) how/why you think that covid deaths went up so sharply in 2022 after 85% of Canadians were vaxed

2) why almost 90% of covid deaths were among the multi-vaxed, as death were climbing...

then you're going back on ignore. I'm here to discuss facts with open-minded, intelligent people, not wallow in the muck with trolls like you. 

1 and 2.

Address those items directly and succinctly, with a rational, thoughtful answer, or I'm done with you and your leftist dogma. 

[eyeball]

2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

The issue is you can't suggest any way that the unvaxxed forced people to do anything and still can't to this miniute.

I shouldn't have to. It's self evident to anyone who understands the point of vaccinating. And no it's not to control you.

5 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Convince you of what?

That you're too stupid to understand English.

It's working btw.