Riley Gaines Assaulted by Trans Activists at San Francisco State University

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, Deluge said:

But that wasn't a protest - it rarely is. 

Anytime a guest speaker with an opposing view comes to visit one of these looney bins, the guest is either verbally threatened, physically intimidated, or campus security is called because someone's mobile safe space has been invaded by a visitor's opposing point of view.

The trans community is insane, and it needs to be treated as such. 

The difference between me and you is, I wouldn't tar an entire community with the actions of a few loonies.

That and our opposing views on freedom of speech.

Edited April 8, 2023 by bcsapper

[Deluge]

38 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

The difference between me and you is, I wouldn't tar an entire community with the actions of a few loonies.

That and our opposing views on freedom of speech.

That's right, you "tar" the violent loonies and let the rest of the loonies enjoy their underworld, away from normal society. 

See, we're not that different after all.

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, bcsapper said:

The difference between me and you is, I wouldn't tar an entire community with the actions of a few loonies.

Exactly, this is what Trudeau had to apologize for. Just because some leaders of the convoy made racist content, didn't mean everybody at the protest was racist.

[Aristides]

I completely agree with Gaines's concerns about males identifying as female competing in women's sport. I'm totally against it. I also respect the right to protest her views. Violence, never.

Edited April 8, 2023 by Aristides

[West]

1 hour ago, bcsapper said:

The difference between me and you is, I wouldn't tar an entire community with the actions of a few loonies.

That and our opposing views on freedom of speech.

Unless they support gun rights. Then they are all terrorists. Am I right? 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, West said:

Unless they support gun rights. Then they are all terrorists. Am I right? 

I support gun rights.  I have a gun.  What's your point?

Edited April 8, 2023 by bcsapper

[Rebound]

Gaines is a bigot, and she went to the center of gay rights activism to speak out against gay rights… 

Violence is definitely never justifiable, and the perpetrator needs to go to jail… but maybe Gains was trying to provoke violence to get attention for herself? 

[Rebound]

31 minutes ago, Aristides said:

I completely agree with Gaines's concerns about males identifying as female competing in women's sport. I'm totally against it. I also respect the right to protest her views. Violence, never.

I agree with that as well, but Gaines has also stated that there are only two sexes and people cannot change their genders.  Then she went into the gay rights capitol of the world to deliver that message.  

[Aristides]

1 minute ago, Rebound said:

I agree with that as well, but Gaines has also stated that there are only two sexes and people cannot change their genders.  Then she went into the gay rights capitol of the world to deliver that message.  

 Sex and gender are not the same. Many on both sides make the mistake of thinking they are.

[Rebound]

1 hour ago, Aristides said:

 Sex and gender are not the same. Many on both sides make the mistake of thinking they are.

Sex is what I do with my wife. Gender is whether I call myself male, female or other and if some activist wants to redefine the words, I don’t care.  

Edited April 8, 2023 by Rebound

[Aristides]

36 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Sex is what I do with my wife. Gender is whether I call myself male, female or other and if some activist wants to redefine the words, I don’t care.  

Sex is biological, gender is psychological. It's not complicated.

[West]

2 hours ago, Rebound said:

I agree with that as well, but Gaines has also stated that there are only two sexes and people cannot change their genders.  Then she went into the gay rights capitol of the world to deliver that message.  

Language is how we try to conceptualize the world around us. These nutty activists are trying to attack basic fabrics which includes language over their beef with the patriarchy. 

Problem is they try to make the rest of us go along with their lunacy 

[I am Groot]

5 hours ago, Deluge said:

You believe in leftist bullshit. Notice I'M the one who posted this story in the forum, not one of you - this happens every f^cking time a story like this breaks. 

Uhm, I actually posted this story before you. I just didn't think it was important enough to have its own topic.

[I am Groot]

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

Sex is what I do with my wife. Gender is whether I call myself male, female or other and if some activist wants to redefine the words, I don’t care.  

Sex is whether you are a biological male or a biological female. There are vast differences between the two, if you haven't yet noticed.

[I am Groot]

2 hours ago, Aristides said:

 Sex and gender are not the same. Many on both sides make the mistake of thinking they are.

All the rules about 'gender' that the transgender community want to break are actually rules on 'sex'. 

We have separate sports leagues for females not because they're women but because they are biologically weaker, more fragile, slower, with less stamina than males. We have different changing rooms for females not because they're women but because as females they have entirely different physical bodies than males and because males tend to get excitable around naked females.

Saying you 'feel' like you're a woman does not make you a female if you're a biological male. 

[I am Groot]

4 hours ago, bcsapper said:

The difference between me and you is, I wouldn't tar an entire community with the actions of a few loonies.

How 'few' are these loonies? Because I see this kind of shrill mob attacking opponents of 'trans rights' everywhere those opponents try to speak anywhere across the Anglosphere. I read many enraged condemnations of anyone, especially any woman who denies that biological men are women just because they 'feel' like they are. Or who believe in separate sports leagues and changing rooms. And in most internet forums you'll be permanently banned for questioning almost any aspect of trans-affirmative beliefs. In some countries, like the  UK, you can actually be jailed for questioning it.

If there are just a few loonies they seem to have an awful lot of influence.

[Guest]

Just now, I am Groot said:

How 'few' are these loonies? Because I see this kind of shrill mob attacking opponents of 'trans rights' everywhere those opponents try to speak anywhere across the Anglosphere. I read many enraged condemnations of anyone, especially any woman who denies that biological men are women just because they 'feel' like they are. Or who believe in separate sports leagues and changing rooms. And in most internet forums you'll be permanently banned for questioning almost any aspect of trans-affirmative beliefs. In some countries, like the  UK, you can actually be jailed for questioning it.

If there are just a few loonies they seem to have an awful lot of influence.

Learn to tell the difference, and apply what you've learned.  That's what I do.

I personally believe that no man is a woman just because they say they are.  And I believe in separate sports leagues and changing rooms.  Anyone has the right to question me on that.  No-one has the right to assault me for that.

I currently frequent only two forums, and neither of them would ban someone for their views.  I wouldn't bother with such a place.  Not worth my time.

As for loonies with influence, it's not like we aren't bombarded with them every day.

[I am Groot]

13 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

I personally believe that no man is a woman just because they say they are.  And I believe in separate sports leagues and changing rooms. 

You realize that to the trans activist community you are a transphobic guilty of hate speech, right?

[Guest]

26 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

You realize that to the trans activist community you are a transphobic guilty of hate speech, right?

Of course.  To many people I've argued with I'm Islamophobic.  To a ton of people on this site I'm a communist, a socialist and a fascist.  All at the same time, apparently.

They're all wrong.

[Deluge]

1 hour ago, I am Groot said:

Uhm, I actually posted this story before you. I just didn't think it was important enough to have its own topic.

It's super important. These people are making moves that they NEVER would have done even 10 years ago. 

[Deluge]

23 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

Of course.  To many people I've argued with I'm Islamophobic.  To a ton of people on this site I'm a communist, a socialist and a fascist.  All at the same time, apparently.

They're all wrong.

You are Islamophobic when you're equating Conservatives to certain aspects of Islam; the rest of the time you're defending Islam - Leftism is a pretty f*cked up mindset when you think about it. 

I'm willing to bet that you are more communistic or socialistic than you are actually democratic. 

I would say you're a fascist at heart, as I'm sure you bought into Barack Obama's fascistic "Change we can believe in" for the US. 

Edited April 8, 2023 by Deluge

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Deluge said:

You are Islamophobic when you're equating Conservatives to certain aspects of Islam; the rest of the time you're defending Islam - Leftism is a pretty f*cked up mindset when you think about it. 

I'm willing to bet that you are more communist or socialist than you are actually democratic. 

I would say you're a fascist at heart, as I'm sure you bought into Barack Obama's fascistic "Change we can believe in" for the US. 

Sure.  Like I said, wrong.

Thanks for illustrating my point.

[Guest]

26 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

Welcome to the club. ?  ?  ? Although you do exhibit militant atheism at times, there is a place for you at the centre, if you ever want to join the club. ?

Your ability to disarm folks which in turn resort to swearing and nonsense is outstanding. A talent to be recognised, truly. It will be a great transfer to the radical centre, like a player going from Man United to Chelsea. 

• The best part is when the other party thinks they have any relevance.
• Once the swearing and nonsense come out + the mob politics come out, you won already. 
• Everything else is just noise. ?

Thanks.  Sometimes I find my centrism is more illustrated by my militant views on one side or the other cancelling each other out than by any actually moderate views.

Chelsea's a good pick for the middle right now.

[Michael Hardner]

4 hours ago, I am Groot said:

How 'few' are these loonies?  

That's the question I have.  How many are actually in these various fringe groups?

[WestCanMan]

11 hours ago, bcsapper said:

And you are clueless.  Deluge believes in free speech only when he agrees with it. He has said so plainly.

Can you find a cite for this?

All through this thread your only comment seems to be "Deluge doesn't like free speech for others!"

Instead of commenting on your feelings about Deluge, can you say that these trans activists are just angry losers and leave it at that?