Dougie93 Posted July 24, 2022 Report Posted July 24, 2022 (edited) On 7/23/2022 at 9:32 AM, Zeitgeist said: Mad Max wasn’t far-fetched. it's simply the Weimar Republic on a much larger scale same sort of imperial collapse and associated national humiliation same debt implosion, same money printing to pay the bills same division of the population into a binary ideological internal conflict same utterly corrupt, incompetent & farcical, ostensibly "liberal" elites same massive shift of the working and middle classes from the left to the right same trajectory towards systemic collapse & spiralling civil disorder Edited July 24, 2022 by Dougie93 Quote
Zeitgeist Posted July 24, 2022 Report Posted July 24, 2022 Today’s Wall Street Journal article about Pearson Airport isn’t a good look for our federal government, as airports are under federal control. A perfect example of how communist-style government overreach provides ineffective solutions. Maybe open up more airports to international flights? Maybe scrap ArriveCAN and random testing? Maybe keep airlines from overselling tickets? Maybe end public health policies that encourage people to skip off of work and quarantine for mild illness? Quote
Dougie93 Posted July 24, 2022 Report Posted July 24, 2022 Just now, Zeitgeist said: Today’s Wall Street Journal article about Pearson Airport isn’t a good look for our federal government, as airports are under federal control. A perfect example of how communist-style government overreach provides ineffective solutions. Maybe open up more airports to international flights? Maybe scrap ArriveCAN and random testing? Maybe keep airlines from overselling tickets? Maybe end public health policies that encourage people to skip off of work and quarantine for mild illness? let it burn it all favours counterrevolution against the treasonous elites Quote
ExFlyer Posted July 24, 2022 Report Posted July 24, 2022 26 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: Not really. Central banks, world bodies such as the IMF, and governments made borrowing costs almost free and through both monetary and fiscal policy encouraged overspending. The problem now is that there are no credit cards left to max out and inflation is high even as governments and central banks try to reign in spending and raise interest rates. The question now is whether inflation and debt will be safely reigned in by these measures, the soft landing we hope for. All credit cards can be maxed out by the individual. To reign in debt, the individual needs to stop spending (just like government). Now, the question is... will they? Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
Dougie93 Posted July 24, 2022 Report Posted July 24, 2022 it's not a question of just spending what you have now is both fiscal (spending) and monetary (printing) stimulus at the same time massive runaway inflation is the limiting factor, and that is arriving in real time Quote
Zeitgeist Posted July 24, 2022 Report Posted July 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: let it burn it all favours counterrevolution against the treasonous elites I agree that our federal government should be drastically defunded and weakened. Slash federal taxes. Really the Feds must be reduced to defence, Northern and Indigenous affairs (treaty obligations for health and education), and maybe not even ports. They can’t handle airports. Perhaps subsidize some postal service and trains to the unprofitable north. I don’t think they should handle resource development or be able to enter Canada into international obligations like the Paris Totalitarian Climate Noose. Basically keep the kids away from the levers of power. Let the provinces run the show. Transfer payments need renegotiated conditions. For example Quebec shouldn’t be able to strip anglophone rights and collect $13 billion in transfer payments. Nor should they be able to prevent Energy East while collecting oil money from Alberta. Quote
Dougie93 Posted July 24, 2022 Report Posted July 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said: I agree that our federal government should be drastically defunded and weakened. I am more than prepared to dissolve the Confederation itself, to rid ourselves of this lunatic asylum in Ottawa Quote
Zeitgeist Posted July 24, 2022 Report Posted July 24, 2022 Just now, Dougie93 said: I am more than prepared to dissolve the Confederation itself, to rid ourselves of this lunatic asylum in Ottawa Keep the Parliamentary buildings and memorials, changing of the guard, etc. Disney can run it and Justin can appear from the Peace Tower as Disney Princess Extraordinaire. Quote
Dougie93 Posted July 24, 2022 Report Posted July 24, 2022 Just now, Zeitgeist said: Keep the Parliamentary buildings and memorials, changing of the guard, etc. Canada will still be a thing Canada predates the Confederation "Canadian" is like saying "European" there's no requirement for a federal government to maintain the historical lineage in fact, it is the federal government which is deliberately destroying our history, culture & civil society 1 Quote
Dougie93 Posted July 24, 2022 Report Posted July 24, 2022 14 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: changing of the guard in terms of the Army, the federal government is dismantling it down to the wood Ontario could have a much more relevant & effective defence force of its own all the Militia regiments would be full strength battalions that's a larger army than New Zealand has, by orders of magnitude yet somehow New Zealand doesn't feel the need to be in the same country as Australia 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted July 24, 2022 Report Posted July 24, 2022 On 7/23/2022 at 8:34 AM, ExFlyer said: Never heard of "the great reset" until folks here keep harping on it. Huh...dont read or watch news I guess. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
ExFlyer Posted July 24, 2022 Report Posted July 24, 2022 16 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Huh...dont read or watch news I guess. Yes to both. Never heard the term "great reset" on the news or in newspapers Wanna educate me? I asked once or twice or thrice before. But hey, if you don't know, it's OK. Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
Zeitgeist Posted July 24, 2022 Report Posted July 24, 2022 35 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Huh...dont read or watch news I guess. He’s feigning ignorance because I just explained it in broad strokes. He’s the guy who sits on a lawn chair staring at the stars while people tell him his house is burning down. He’d probably sleep on the embers and pretend they’re his bed. 1 Quote
Nefarious Banana Posted July 24, 2022 Report Posted July 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Wanna educate me? I asked once or twice or thrice before. Google . . . 'Great Reset - Justin Trudeau Trudeau used the word 'reset' in reference to Klaus Schwab's 'great reset' quip. Your use of 'wanna' in a three word sentence that includes the word 'education' . . . . . Quote
ExFlyer Posted July 24, 2022 Report Posted July 24, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Nefarious Banana said: Google . . . 'Great Reset - Justin Trudeau Trudeau used the word 'reset' in reference to Klaus Schwab's 'great reset' quip. Your use of 'wanna' in a three word sentence that includes the word 'education' . . . . . No. All you here hyping and whining should be able to tell what they know but it seems they cannot .... maybe it is just whining because they really can't. Prove yourselves. An opportunity for the blowhards to prove their worth and beliefs or just whimper and whine? Who the F is Kaus Schwab? And he quips too? LOL Edited July 24, 2022 by ExFlyer Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
West Posted July 24, 2022 Report Posted July 24, 2022 8 hours ago, ExFlyer said: So, I ask you again, what is this "great reset"? Please explain. If you were at university, saw it, was obviously disgusted by it you certainly must know what it is so you can explain it to a layman?? Oh and, what is the "barbaric sdg agenda" too. Pass on some of that wisdom you seem to have. 1. SDG = Sustainable Development Goals = the religion of woke. 2. The Great Reset is a book published by Klaus Schwab aka Klaus Slob. Trudeau has also said we would use the Covid pandemic to re-imagine our economies and work toward the goals of Sustainable development. 3. In my view, while the language of Sustainable development sounds lovely, it's anything but lovely as requires authoritarianism. Hopefully this answers your questions. 1 1 Quote
ExFlyer Posted July 24, 2022 Report Posted July 24, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, West said: 1. SDG = Sustainable Development Goals = the religion of woke. 2. The Great Reset is a book published by Klaus Schwab aka Klaus Slob. Trudeau has also said we would use the Covid pandemic to re-imagine our economies and work toward the goals of Sustainable development. 3. In my view, while the language of Sustainable development sounds lovely, it's anything but lovely as requires authoritarianism. Hopefully this answers your questions. Thank you very much. I appreciate the synopsis. SDG is just a philosophy. Not reality. I never heard or read Trudeau saying anything like that. Maybe by extrapolating a number of statements you conclude that? Edited July 24, 2022 by ExFlyer Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
West Posted July 24, 2022 Report Posted July 24, 2022 (edited) 45 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Thank you very much. I appreciate the synopsis. SDG is just a philosophy. Not reality. I never heard or read Trudeau saying anything like that. Maybe by extrapolating a number of statements you conclude that? The pandemic represents a rare but narrow window of opportunity to reflect, reimagine, and reset our world" - Professor Klaus Schwab, https://www.weforum.org/focus/the-great-reset "This pandemic has provided an opportunity for a reset,” -Justin Trudeau "This is our chance to accelerate our pre-pandemic efforts to reimagine economic systems that actually address global challenges like extreme poverty, inequality and climate change.” -Justin Trudeau https://www.globalnews.ca/news/7480328/commentary-the-great-reset/amp/ Edited July 24, 2022 by West 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted July 24, 2022 Report Posted July 24, 2022 4 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Yes to both. Never heard the term "great reset" on the news or in newspapers Wanna educate me? I asked once or twice or thrice before. But hey, if you don't know, it's OK. According to Weforum... "The Great Reset is a proposal by the World Economic Forum to rebuild the economy sustainably following the COVID-19 pandemic. It was unveiled in May 2020 by the United Kingdom's Prince Charles and WEF director Klaus Schwab. It seeks to improve capitalism by making investments more geared toward mutual progress and focusing more on environmental initiatives. It has been criticized for using the pandemic to implement a risky experiment and a petition to stop it gained 80,000 signatures in less than 72 hours. A conspiracy theory has spread in response, claiming it will be used to bring in socialist and environmental changes and a supposed New World Order." 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
ExFlyer Posted July 24, 2022 Report Posted July 24, 2022 47 minutes ago, West said: The pandemic represents a rare but narrow window of opportunity to reflect, reimagine, and reset our world" - Professor Klaus Schwab, https://www.weforum.org/focus/the-great-reset "This pandemic has provided an opportunity for a reset,” -Justin Trudeau "This is our chance to accelerate our pre-pandemic efforts to reimagine economic systems that actually address global challenges like extreme poverty, inequality and climate change.” -Justin Trudeau https://www.globalnews.ca/news/7480328/commentary-the-great-reset/amp/ Not sure what to believe in all this. The article you linked also has links to a BBC report.: "We start with the revival of the baseless conspiracy theory, known as the 'Great Reset', which claims a group of world leaders orchestrated the pandemic to take control of the global economy. The conspiracy theory has its origins in a genuine plan entitled 'The Great Reset', drawn up by the World Economic Forum (WEF), the organisers of an annual conference for high-profile figures from politics and business. The plan explores how countries might recover from the economic damage caused by the coronavirus pandemic." "The WEF recovery plan has been interpreted as sinister, first by fringe conspiracy theory groups on social media, and then by prominent conservative commentators - prompting tens of thousands of interactions across Facebook and Twitter. "" A video from August, which now has close to three million views on YouTube, believes only Donald Trump can thwart this secret plot, which uses Covid-19 to bring the US economy to its knees so the "reset" can begin and people will be "begging" for vaccines. But the suggestion that politicians planned the virus, or are using it to destroy capitalism is wholly without evidence. So too is the notion that the World Economic Forum has the authority to tell other countries what to do, or that it is coordinating a secret cabal of world leaders." https://www.bbc.com/news/55017002 1 Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
Nationalist Posted July 24, 2022 Report Posted July 24, 2022 10 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Not sure what to believe in all this. The article you linked also has links to a BBC report.: "We start with the revival of the baseless conspiracy theory, known as the 'Great Reset', which claims a group of world leaders orchestrated the pandemic to take control of the global economy. The conspiracy theory has its origins in a genuine plan entitled 'The Great Reset', drawn up by the World Economic Forum (WEF), the organisers of an annual conference for high-profile figures from politics and business. The plan explores how countries might recover from the economic damage caused by the coronavirus pandemic." "The WEF recovery plan has been interpreted as sinister, first by fringe conspiracy theory groups on social media, and then by prominent conservative commentators - prompting tens of thousands of interactions across Facebook and Twitter. "" A video from August, which now has close to three million views on YouTube, believes only Donald Trump can thwart this secret plot, which uses Covid-19 to bring the US economy to its knees so the "reset" can begin and people will be "begging" for vaccines. But the suggestion that politicians planned the virus, or are using it to destroy capitalism is wholly without evidence. So too is the notion that the World Economic Forum has the authority to tell other countries what to do, or that it is coordinating a secret cabal of world leaders." https://www.bbc.com/news/55017002 Just believe your own senses. Look around. Go shopping. Go buy gas. Actually listen to what these world leaders say. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
ExFlyer Posted July 24, 2022 Report Posted July 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Just believe your own senses. Look around. Go shopping. Go buy gas. Actually listen to what these world leaders say. My senses are overloaded and sometimes just numb. What I want to believe is not something you may want to believe. Thing is, what we want to believe is up to us, individually. Look at this forum as a perfect example. No civil discussion can take place because of adamant firm beliefs. Cannot question or play devils advocate without incurring the wrath of some. I do look around. I do go buy gas. I do go buy groceries. I do go shopping. World leaders all say things to their voting base. They say some thing one day and another opposite the next. They all blow smoke up everyone's asses. They all piss people off for the first 2 years in their tenure then they open the wallets and give everyone anything they want so they can get re-elected. The world turns around like it has in all "democracies". Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
sharkman Posted July 25, 2022 Report Posted July 25, 2022 On 7/19/2022 at 7:08 PM, cj8 said: A Complete Lock Up of The System Will Occur. By Gregory Mannarino https://gregorymannarino.substack.com/p/a-complete-lock-of-the-system-will Why is the world awash in never ending and inflating debt? Moreover, why does global debt keep expanding relentlessly every day, every month, and every year, in what seems like some kind of twisted mass insanity? What is THE REAL TRUTH behind all this? The answer is simple, and frightening. The expansion of debt cannot ever stop! Additionally, it must constantly and ceaselessly be expanded on EXPONENTIALLY. What this means is that the amount of debt being borrowed into existence CANNOT EVEN REMAIN STATIC! It must be expanded on VASTLY every moment, every day, every week, every month, and every year, just to allow the system itself to function day to day. If the amount of debt being borrowed into existence were to remain at its current level, without being expanded on, the entire system would FREEZE UP in an instant. The insanity of all this actually gets even worse. Despite the FACT that global debt is continually expanding, there is not enough of it. As most people who follow my work are already aware, the current central bank run global financial system is debt based, and at its core what this means is every conceivable reason, including things which the average person could not even dream of, must and will be utilized to continually find reasons/create more reasons to borrow more cash into existence. As of late the two biggest machinations being forced upon the people of the world and are currently being used as mechanisms to pull EPIC sums into the now by more borrowing are: 1. Global disease processes like Covid and the various variants thereof, also 2. Expanding war(s). It’s this crisis-to-crisis economic model which has given world leaders a blank check, spending which is not allowed to even be questioned! As they have turned this upside down on the people of the world as ANYONE who now dares question as to why all this crisis-to-crisis spending is being done is then branded as being “unpatriotic!” Or a person who does not care about “helping” people. NOT ONE mainstream media source will EVER be allowed to explain the truth behind the crisis-to-crisis borrowing debt expansion mechanism, nor will a single world leader, OR a central banker explain it. Will it ever end? YES! The system, despite ever expanding debt, will eventually become illiquid. A lack of liquidity in the system, despite finding ever more reasons to borrow, will eventually reach a saturation point. This saturation point will, and is already, manifesting itself in the form of skyrocketing inflation worldwide. The inevitable end of the current debt-based system is rapidly approaching, and a move to yet another central bank run system is coming. A system of extreme control, a cashless system, where every single transaction is tracked down to the ten thousandth of a cent. Very interesting. I have been following a few “spiritual contacts” as well. What you have there are the nuts and bolts of the collapse. What I am hearing is that things will start in August. One says early August. The US government is going to come under intense pressure. The US dollar will tank(30+%), ME nations will sign a major oil deal with China. Taiwan will be invaded. Iran will have it’s nuclear ambitions bombed from Israel. A 2 State treaty will be signed with Palestine/Israel. The US dollar will lose another 30%. By the midterms we will all be reeling under the repercussions, hoping the worst will be over. But then the midterms will happen. The spiritual contacts all say to buy silver/precious metals because the fiat money system will fail. Can you imagine what that will do to the silver and gold markets? Quote
eyeball Posted July 25, 2022 Report Posted July 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, sharkman said: The spiritual contacts all say to buy silver/precious metals because the fiat money system will fail. Can you imagine what that will do to the silver and gold markets? My contacts tell me the alien mothership carrying the rescue mission is dropping out of warpspace outside the Oort Cloud right now so it can proceed safely at impulse drive from there. So chill out and party like it's 1999. Never mind gold, beer markets are poised to go wild! 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
sharkman Posted July 25, 2022 Report Posted July 25, 2022 No eyeball, I want you to follow Justin Trudeau’s advice: "This pandemic has provided an opportunity for a reset,” -Justin Trudeau "This is our chance to accelerate our pre-pandemic efforts to reimagine economic systems that actually address global challenges like extreme poverty, inequality and climate change.” -Justin Trudeau Quote
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