Why You Should Be a Nationalist

[Nationalist]

8 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Canada made significant contributions in both world wars.  Really we deserved a permanent seat on the Security Council.  Instead France got it.   However, that was a long time ago.  It’s sad how much our military has been neglected. Maybe Canada’s favouritism for Ukraine is what’s making our government start to care a little about our military.  

We can only hope. In the mean time...Americans wouldn't like Canada. The cold is unbearable and the damn Polar Bears keep eating the garbage.

 

[Zeitgeist]

11 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

We can only hope. In the mean time...Americans wouldn't like Canada. The cold is unbearable and the damn Polar Bears keep eating the garbage.

 

That’s the in-joke among Canadians, that many foreigners think Canadians walk among polar bears and igloos.  I’ve never seen a polar bear outside a zoo and I’ll probably never see an igloo.  Southern Canada, where most people live, has little geographically to distinguish it from Maine or Montana.   Minnesota is a lot colder than where I live in Southern Ontario.  

[Nationalist]

10 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

That’s the in-joke among Canadians, that many foreigners think Canadians walk among polar bears and igloos.  I’ve never seen a polar bear outside a zoo and I’ll probably never see an igloo.  Southern Canada, where most people live, has little geographically to distinguish it from Maine or Montana.   Minnesota is a lot colder than where I live in Southern Ontario.  

SHHH...Don't tell them that.

 

[cougar]

11 hours ago, blackbird said:

 Do you believe we should have a much stronger military?

I thought I answered your question already.  No.

Because as I said we give everything away without a fight and we have no nation to protect, as apparently everyone is looking after the interests of themselves and their original nation.

[blackbird]

7 hours ago, cougar said:

I thought I answered your question already.  No.

Because as I said we give everything away without a fight and we have no nation to protect, as apparently everyone is looking after the interests of themselves and their original nation.

If you don't believe we need a much stronger military, you are no use to Canada for a citizen and would let the likes of Putin walk in and take over.  You're more of a liability because you can vote for the pacifist government we have.

[cougar]

21 minutes ago, blackbird said:

..........stronger military........

What more strength do you need? Nuclear weapons?  As I said, the Canadian politicians have ensured there is no nation in Canada, so what do you want to protect now?  And who do you think you need to fight?  Russia?  They have enough land and would not invade us unless we did something drastically stupid and suicidal.

They actually had so much land that they gave some to the USA - the whole of Alaska with all of its gold.

We, the whole world, need to reduce our fighting power and weapons not militarize more!

Edited May 18, 2022 by cougar

[Army Guy]

56 minutes ago, cougar said:

  And who do you think you need to fight?  Russia?  They have enough land and would not invade us unless we did something drastically stupid and suicidal.

 

Ukraine must be pretty stupid and suicidal all rolled into one silly ball. 

[cougar]

1 hour ago, Army Guy said:

Ukraine must be pretty stupid and suicidal all rolled into one silly ball. 

Yep.  Attempting to join NATO was stupid and suicidal for them.

But why do you draw a parallel between Ukraine and Canada?  We are on a different continent for God's sake!

Don't rattle the wasp nest and you will not get stung!

[blackbird]

3 hours ago, cougar said:

What more strength do you need? Nuclear weapons?  As I said, the Canadian politicians have ensured there is no nation in Canada, so what do you want to protect now?  And who do you think you need to fight?  Russia?  They have enough land and would not invade us unless we did something drastically stupid and suicidal.

They actually had so much land that they gave some to the USA - the whole of Alaska with all of its gold.

We, the whole world, need to reduce our fighting power and weapons not militarize more!

Yes, you are a true pacifist, living in Fantasyland.  You need to read the history of the world.  It's all wars and conquering.  If you don't have a strong military, your country is done for sooner or later.  You can't expect to live off the military of other countries.  Why should they look after you like a baby?   Canada belongs to NATO which means we also have the responsibility to defend Europe and all NATO members from Russia.  Obviously you have not been paying attention to what is going on in the world.  We are already very weak militarily, with practically no Navy or Air Force to speak of.  Don't expect the U.S. to look after you.  Sending a few hundred soldiers to Latvia is almost nothing.  If Canada is going to be serious, as Trudeau claims to be in the world, then they better shape up build a proper military.  Doesn't mean we need nuclear weapons, but there are many other things we need in the military.

[cougar]

3 hours ago, blackbird said:

  It's all wars and conquering.  If you don't have a strong military, your country is done for sooner or later. 

And I thought you were the one putting his faith in God.

Militarization is like allowing civilians to carry weapons - you see how well it works for the States.

And again, military is for countries that have a nation.  If you've buried family on Canadian soil, you might have some sense of belonging and a desire to protect the land.  In general, most here (a wild guess)  have dual citizenship and are generally on business or exploration (in my case).  Can't make me fight for no agenda, other than the environment and wildlife.  I turn my back, take the first flight out and away I go.

[blackbird]

7 hours ago, cougar said:

And I thought you were the one putting his faith in God.

Militarization is like allowing civilians to carry weapons - you see how well it works for the States.

And again, military is for countries that have a nation.  If you've buried family on Canadian soil, you might have some sense of belonging and a desire to protect the land.  In general, most here (a wild guess)  have dual citizenship and are generally on business or exploration (in my case).  Can't make me fight for no agenda, other than the environment and wildlife.  I turn my back, take the first flight out and away I go.

Sad, you don't understand the concept of self defence, the defence of one's nation, land, and people.  Military has nothing to do with civilians carrying weapons.  That sounds more like an excuse to not support the military.  Faith in the God of the Bible includes the right to defend one's self, property, family, and nation.  Why else have police, bylaw officers, and why have a military if one doesn't believe in defence of one's country and people?  With your attitude, I don't think anybody would want you in the police, or military.  You would be more of a liability than an aid.  Others would have to use valuable resources to defend you which police and military can't afford to do.  You need to study the Bible and have a complete change in thinking.  I don't know where you came from but there is hope.  But only God can change you.

[cougar]

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

With your attitude, I don't think anybody would want you in the police, or military.  You would be more of a liability than an aid. 

Was I ever implying I wanted to join any of the two?

Maybe ask God to militarize and come fight with you, killing others on other continents.

[Dougie93]

5 hours ago, cougar said:

Was I ever implying I wanted to join any of the two?

Maybe ask God to militarize and come fight with you, killing others on other continents.

Canada is not a republic

thus there are no Canadian citizen soldiers

the state sanctioned mass murderers of the British Crown are mercenaries for the Queen

we take up the colours, so you don't have to

so go in peace, only the Soldiers of the Crown are responsible for the defence of Canada

vigilamus pro te

[blackbird]

21 hours ago, cougar said:

Was I ever implying I wanted to join any of the two?

Maybe ask God to militarize and come fight with you, killing others on other continents.

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It is an error to say that God never supports a war. Jesus is not a pacifist. In a world filled with evil people, sometimes war is necessary to prevent even greater evil. If Hitler had not been defeated by World War II, how many more millions would have been killed? If the American Civil War had not been fought, how much longer would African-Americans have had to suffer as slaves?

War is a terrible thing. Some wars are more “just” than others, but war is always the result of sin (Romans 3:10-18). At the same time, Ecclesiastes 3:8 declares, “There is…a time to love and a time to hate, a time for war and a time for peace.” In a world filled with sin, hatred, and evil (Romans 3:10-18), war is inevitable. Christians should not desire war, but neither are Christians to oppose the government God has placed in authority over them (Romans 13:1-4; 1 Peter 2:17). The most important thing we can be doing in a time of war is to be praying for godly wisdom for our leaders, praying for the safety of our military, praying for quick resolution to conflicts, and praying for a minimum of casualties among civilians on both sides (Philippians 4:6-7).  unquote

What does the Bible say about war? | GotQuestions.org

This is why you need to study the Bible.  You don't understand we live in a sinful, evil world.  If the allies had not gone to war to fight against Hitler, he might have killed millions more people and imposed his evil Nazi regime on much of the world.  There would have been nothing to stop Hitler.  So war in that case was justified.

The problem is the human heart is corrupt and wicked.  That is why there are wars and hate in the world.  That is why everyone needs to be born again and given a new heart.  The only way to be born again is by God's gift of grace in salvation.  Salvation is only by faith in Jesus Christ.  But each individual must make that choice.  Everyone has to decide for themselves what they believe and each will go to his own destination, either heaven or hell.  

[Nationalist]

On 5/18/2022 at 7:48 PM, cougar said:

What more strength do you need? Nuclear weapons?  As I said, the Canadian politicians have ensured there is no nation in Canada, so what do you want to protect now?  And who do you think you need to fight?  Russia?  They have enough land and would not invade us unless we did something drastically stupid and suicidal.

They actually had so much land that they gave some to the USA - the whole of Alaska with all of its gold.

We, the whole world, need to reduce our fighting power and weapons not militarize more!

That's not true.

He have something better than gold and both Russia and the USA know it. The northern passage. 

What we need...is a fleet of ice breakers and battleships as escorts. Fighter jets and a deadly land to air missile system. 

Or...we could just roll over and let everyone use it for free. 

[Great American]

On 5/18/2022 at 9:35 AM, Nationalist said:

We can only hope. In the mean time...Americans wouldn't like Canada. The cold is unbearable and the damn Polar Bears keep eating the garbage.

 

Sarah Palin would feel at home, except for your socialism. ?

[Nationalist]

10 hours ago, Great American said:

Sarah Palin would feel at home, except for your socialism. ?

Ok probably true.

[cougar]

16 hours ago, Nationalist said:

We have something better than gold and both Russia and the USA know it. The northern passage. 

What we need...is ..............

I am sick of this greed!  I do not need anything!

[Dougie93]

23 hours ago, Nationalist said:

That's not true.

He have something better than gold and both Russia and the USA know it. The northern passage. 

What we need...is a fleet of ice breakers and battleships as escorts. Fighter jets and a deadly land to air missile system. 

Or...we could just roll over and let everyone use it for free. 

but the only threat to Canadian sovereignty over the Northwest Passage is the Americans

it is the Americans who clam freedom of navigation to the 12 mile limit through the Northwest Passage

America is Canada's only natural enemy

the Arctic is a wasteland, it is only a maritime battlespace

the arm of decision therein, is the nuclear powered submarine, that is the battleship now

but when Canada tried to buy SSN's in the 1980's

the Americans said no

no you may not have nuclear submarines, Canada

only the British are invited into the American strategic deterrent

because America is the one violating Canadian sovereignty

so the US Navy doesn't want Canadian SSN's following them around up there

Canada is merely the No Man's Land over the pole between the Americans & Russians

even the Australians have been invited into the club now, through AUKUS

but not Canada, America will not allow Canada to have SSN's

the purpose of the Canadian Forces is not to defend Canadian territory

the purpose of the Canadian Forces is to fight other people's wars, never our own

 reason being, if Canada were to fight its own war

that war would be against the Americans

Edited May 21, 2022 by Dougie93

[Dougie93]

these are the breaking points of Canadian Nationalism

the points where Canadian Nationalism breaks down in the face of logic

point one; Canada is not one nation

Canada is at least two, plausibly as many as five nations

Canada a Confederation of the anti-nationalist British Empire

point two; Canada is now a vassal state of the Americans

Canada oldest enemy is now Canada's master

Canada does not have its own foreign & defence policy

Canada's role is simply to render unto American Caesar

point three; Canada is integrated with the American economy

Free Trade pits the Canadian provinces against each other

provinces cut each other's throats competing for American favour

to invoke Canadian Nationalism

is to invoke Canada at war against itself

English vs French

East vs West

British Empire vs American Hegenomy

thus why the Laurentian Elites impose the Post National State

it's Post National for a reason

that reason being to save the Confederation

to keep the peace, between all the competing nations within Canada

first & foremost keeping the peace with the Quebec nation

Edited May 21, 2022 by Dougie93

[ironstone]

Nationalist definition:

a person who strongly identifies with their own nation and vigorously supports its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations:

"he was a staunch nationalist during his 22 years in power"

They define nationalist as inherently a bad thing but I think it's not at all unreasonable to look out for our nations best interests ahead of the interests of other countries. How does it make sense to put the well being of other countries ahead of our own? One can be a nationalist and at the same time support giving aid to other nations but with reasonable limits.

[Dougie93]

if you rail against this Post National Confederation ?

that puts you in the boat with the Bloc Quebecious

in the Canadian context, you are not called a Nationalist

you are called a Sovereignist

in that to have your Nationalism, you must first cede from the Confederation

[Dougie93]

5 minutes ago, ironstone said:

They define nationalist as inherently a bad thing

it's an inherently bad thing for Canada

because Canada is a product of Empire

and Empire is the antithesis of nationalism

Empire is the ultimate anti nationalist state

so when the Liberals invoke the Post National State

what they really mean is the British Empire

under the rule of the Liberal Natural Governing Party

a pseudo aristocracy known as the Laurentian Elites

ruling from their ivory towers in Toronto, Montreal & Ottawa

Liberal Party of Canada flag

Liberal Party of Canada song

Liberal Party of Canada uber alles

[Dougie93]

for all intents & purposes National Security related

your actual state is the United Kingdom United States Security Agreement

otherwise known as

the Anglosphere

the Anglo-American Empire of Liberty

Five Eyes

the Republic of the United States of America & her four British vassals

of which the United Kingdom & Australia are the favoured allies

while Canada & New Zealand are the unreliable free riders

[Nationalist]

On 5/21/2022 at 2:10 AM, cougar said:

I am sick of this greed!  I do not need anything!

You aren't the whole nation.