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On 5/14/2022 at 4:24 AM, Great American said:

 

 

Brilliant response.

Does anyone thing that America did NOT win WWII? A moment of honest please: Many nations fought and many brave men died and I respect their sacrifice, but the truth is that the American manufacturing power and might is what armed the West. Production in England was obliterated and France had lost and other nations did not have the capacity. America's 2-ocean fleet and our war production machine is what won the war. And we were very nationalist, in the good way.

 

The same manufacturing power that supplied Germany until the US got pulled into the war by Japan in the end of  1941?

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1 hour ago, Great American said:

Well, here is a different POV, and a darn good one. Perhaps I have more analyzing to do on this topic

 

Mark Levin is a classic Reagan Democrat

MAGA from the 1980's

he was Chief of Staff for Edwin Meese in the Reagan Administration

 

 

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1 hour ago, Great American said:

Perhaps I have more analyzing to do on this topic

Party of Lincoln

Glorious Union

free all the slaves everywhere, or die trying

Republicans are not actually conservative

Republicans are radical abolitionists

it's a revolutionary movement to make the world over in America's image

God's chosen people

New Jerusalem

Shining City on a Hill

Empire of Liberty

the America Firster Isolationists are not really Republicans at all

Billy Sherman wields the Terrible Swift Sword still

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don't forget that America is not one nation anymore than Canada is

the America Firster Isolationists are actually the other nation

the Confederates

defeated at the foot of Cemetery Ridge

they've simply been driven to the GOP by the Democrats going Commie, same as the Reagan Democrats were

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33 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

The same manufacturing power that supplied Germany until the US got pulled into the war by Japan in the end of  1941?

So what. We do business. Thats why we are rich and you are our vassal state.

Hindsight is always 20 20. Germany was a Republic until Hindenburg died in 1934. After that it still seemed like a Republic for a while. 

Perhaps you can enlighten me with specifics on how the US Government supplied Hitler after 1939 and until 1941, since that is your assertion. And remember, individual private companies dong business in foreign countries is not the same as the government supplying another government with goods. I can point to European companies today that circumvent embargos on terrorist states.

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22 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Party of Lincoln

Glorious Union

free all the slaves everywhere, or die trying

Republicans are not actually conservative

Republicans are radical abolitionists

it's a revolutionary movement to make the world over in America's image

God's chosen people

New Jerusalem

Shining City on a Hill

Empire of Liberty

the America Firster Isolationists are not really Republicans at all

Billy Sherman wields the Terrible Swift Sword still

 

I like this

 

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2 minutes ago, Great American said:

Thats why we are rich and you are our vassal state.

Canada has simply failed to launch as a sovereign independent Westphalian nation state

because Canada was not designed to be a Westphalian nation state

in 1867, the nation was Great Britain

the purpose of Canada was to be a bulwark against the American Republic at the gates

the British Empire then collapsed in the First World War, the Empire went broke fighting the Germans in Flanders

and Canada was suddenly set adrift

Canada was not meant to function this way, Canada has to have an Empire to manage its affairs

so the British in effect handed Canada off, from the British Empire, to the American Empire of Liberty

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5 minutes ago, Great American said:

 

I like this

 

well I am a Republican in the classical sense

 I'm not a Yankee tho

but Lincoln was not a Yankee neither

as you know, he was a Kentuckian

like Lincoln, I vehemently oppose John Cotton & the Democrat Plantation Aristocracy

but I've got much love for Johnny Reb, we are cousins

 

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Great American said:

So what. We do business. Thats why we are rich and you are our vassal state.

Hindsight is always 20 20. Germany was a Republic until Hindenburg died in 1934. After that it still seemed like a Republic for a while. 

Perhaps you can enlighten me with specifics on how the US Government supplied Hitler after 1939 and until 1941, since that is your assertion. And remember, individual private companies dong business in foreign countries is not the same as the government supplying another government with goods. I can point to European companies today that circumvent embargos on terrorist states.

Ah, yes, business is always an good excuse for American intervention into wars and conflicts.

Into Vietnam and after decades had to pull out. Oh and lost https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/guides/z342mp3/revision/4

Into Afghanistan and after decades had to pull out. Because the people you supported turned on you and you lost in the end. https://warontherocks.com/2021/09/when-americas-all-volunteer-force-loses-a-war/

Yup, good business.  LOL

Yup, we are a vasal state. Taking advantage and not suffering the consequences. Canada good, America, where business is king, regardless of who they deal with

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8 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

well I am a Republican in the classical sense

 I'm not a Yankee tho

but Lincoln was not a Yankee neither

as you know, he was a Kentuckian

like Lincoln, I vehemently oppose John Cotton & the Democrat Plantation Aristocracy

but I've got much love for Johnny Reb, we are cousins

 

I am a Kentuckian too. Well, I was born in Texas but I live in Kentucky.

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4 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Ah, yes, business is always an good excuse for American intervention into wars and conflicts

Perverting the subject I see. I never said that at all. I am still waiting for you to prove your assertion.

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59 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

The same manufacturing power that supplied Germany until the US got pulled into the war by Japan in the end of  1941?

 

26 minutes ago, Great American said:

. . . . . Hindsight is always 20 20. Germany was a Republic until Hindenburg died in 1934. After that it still seemed like a Republic for a while. 

Perhaps you can enlighten me with specifics on how the US Government supplied Hitler after 1939 and until 1941, since that is your assertion. And remember, individual private companies dong business in foreign countries is not the same as the government supplying another government with goods. I can point to European companies today that circumvent embargos on terrorist states.

 

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10 minutes ago, Great American said:

Perverting the subject I see.

you see here the knee jerk Canadian Anti-Americanism

that is actually the Lost Cause

even tho Canada won the War of 1812, repelled the Yankee invasion

Canada being rendered into a vassal state of Canada's sworn enemy, incites Canadians to adopt the Lost Cause

they are just so disconnected from their own history, they don't remember why

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I would submit; the important thing is not so much Nationalism

the important thing is the central narrative

knowing where you come from, the story of your people

the average Canadian simply does not know, the average Canadian does not know the history of Canada

a people without a history are easy to control, hence why Canadians are so docile & compliant

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you can see right now tho, more protests are kicking off in the streets of Quebec

what about this time ?

Quebec is waging a war against the English

Quebec is passing laws which criminalize being an Anglo

this is what comes of Nationalism in the unstable cobbled together Confederation of Canada

it will be war, between the British & French

a war that goes all the way back the Plains of Abraham on 13 September 1759

Canada is not a unified nation and never was

Canada is a French nation, taken by the British as a war prize

Canada was conquered by the British

and this wound can never be healed

Quebec is the nation here, the Anglos are for all intents & purposes Americans by default

Quebec even has its own National Anthem

Gens du Pays

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I just reviewed the linked YouTube video "Why You Should Be a Nationalist" and commented there in defiance of their claim. Historically, "Nationalism" used to refer to one's Nationality, their ETHNIC ancestral relationships as a 'people', not merely the country. The  "National" in "National Socialisn" asserts that a particular extention of family and tribe should DEFINE the constitution of their country, as a SINGLE "nation". Todays perverted meaning of 'Nation' to mean country is ONLY a coinciding reference to one's people within a country as sharing their 'nationality'. To the Germans, they were the 'aboroginals' who demanded respect of them as having the 'FIRST NATION', a people that no longer identified the makeup of their country preWorldWartimes. 

The point the video made regarding supporting "family, community (tribe), and nation" is the actual part that the Nazis were demanding they should re-constitutionalize as a SOCIETY (the 'Social" in National Socialism). The generic term 'fasci' comes from the bundle of straws OF THE SAME KIND that has weakness only as independent straws. This is a univeral TRIBALIST position meant to entice those of a shared PARTICULAR culture to embrace so as to STRENTHEN their STRAIN because they believed one's intrinsic genetic inheritance is in sync with their ancestors ideal 'culture' being fostered. 

The term, "National", thus, only coincideds with a boundary IF that coutnry is PURE in one SINGE type of 'cultural' identity within those borders. However, "nation" is the PEOPLE of a given ethnicity regardless of borders except if proposed to constitutionalize their Social platform to FAVOR the given Nationality. An example of a "Nation" is a tribe of people like the Cree (Nation) aboriginals who are not confined to a specific country's border but to their ancestral family. If a country like Canada becomes specifically made up of Cree Nationalists, and the country gets redefined to require Society repect them with priority, their people BECOME the country's legitimate 'Social' identity based upon their specific Nation, ...them being Cree, for this example.

Countries like Israel and Saudi Arabia are thus National Socialist examples given they constitute the society based upon a genetic ancestral association along with some presumed 'culture'. For Israel, the cultural link is being Jewish, the genetic tribe they coincidingly believe in is being purely Semitic, a purity of race defining their fasci.

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6 minutes ago, Scott Mayers said:

I just reviewed the linked YouTube video "Why You Should Be a Nationalist" and commented there in defiance of their claim . . . 

I commented on your comment and said you are full of crap

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6 minutes ago, Great American said:

I commented on your comment and said you are full of crap

Thank you for your immature anti-intellectual response. If you don't like to argue your point of view but prefer only to insult, that is what Twitter is designed for, ....emoting ones feelings unqualified. What you don't seem to notice is that you require tying a real name to your opinion or it is doubtful you are sincere. But you'd make a good Nazi. They preferred simple statements  and actions without requiring intellectualizing it. They prefer such means of deception too.

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You're drawing the line between ethnic and civic nationalism and that in itself is valid.

However when you attempt to infer that you have the key to which is more valid as a definition and from that attempt to make nationalists necessarily "national socialists" GA becomes correct. You are full of crap.

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