The Governor Whitmer Kidnapping Hoax

[West]

I'm just getting caught up on the news. Four men often falsely described as white supremacists by the unstable US leftists were found not guilty in the alleged kidnapping plot  

Of course like in many of the other hoaxes (the Smollett hoax, the covington kid hoax, the Russian collusion hoax and others) the leftist media try to cover up their lies, blaming the jury, "racism", etc etc. 

What's with the left wing and hoaxes? 

[BeaverFever]

33 minutes ago, West said:

I'm just getting caught up on the news. Four men often falsely described as white supremacists by the unstable US leftists were found not guilty in the alleged kidnapping plot  

Of course like in many of the other hoaxes (the Smollett hoax, the covington kid hoax, the Russian collusion hoax and others) the leftist media try to cover up their lies, blaming the jury, "racism", etc etc. 

What's with the left wing and hoaxes? 

You’re still not caught up. No, four men were not found “not guilty”  and no these 4 don’t prove the plot is a hoax;

2 previously plead guilty and testified against the others 

2 had hung juries and will likely be retried. 

2 were acquitted. 

8 are still awaiting trial. 

5 more are waiting for a judge to determine if there’s sufficient evidence for trial. 

 

https://www.woodtv.com/news/michigan/explainer-2-men-in-gov-whitmer-plot-could-be-tried-again/amp/

 

And by the way the basis for the acquittal and hung juries is the potential for there to have been entrapment:  in other words the accused admit to plotting to kidnap her but maintain that the undercover agents convinced them to do it. 

Edited April 13, 2022 by BeaverFever

[West]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

You’re still not caught up. No, four men were not found “not guilty”  and no these 4 don’t prove the plot is a hoax;

2 previously plead guilty and testified against the others 

2 had hung juries and will likely be retried. 

2 were acquitted. 

8 are still awaiting trial. 

5 more are waiting for a judge to determine if there’s sufficient evidence for trial. 

 

https://www.woodtv.com/news/michigan/explainer-2-men-in-gov-whitmer-plot-could-be-tried-again/amp/

 

And by the way the basis for the acquittal and hung juries is the potential for there to have been entrapment:  in other words the accused admit to plotting to kidnap her but maintain that the undercover agents convinced them to do it. 

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[Nationalist]

15 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

You’re still not caught up. No, four men were not found “not guilty”  and no these 4 don’t prove the plot is a hoax;

2 previously plead guilty and testified against the others 

2 had hung juries and will likely be retried. 

2 were acquitted. 

8 are still awaiting trial. 

5 more are waiting for a judge to determine if there’s sufficient evidence for trial. 

 

https://www.woodtv.com/news/michigan/explainer-2-men-in-gov-whitmer-plot-could-be-tried-again/amp/

 

And by the way the basis for the acquittal and hung juries is the potential for there to have been entrapment:  in other words the accused admit to plotting to kidnap her but maintain that the undercover agents convinced them to do it. 

Can you say "entrapment"?

The FBI is yet another institution that no longer has my respect.

They are corrupt liars and need to be disbanded.

[West]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Can you say "entrapment"?

The FBI is yet another institution that no longer has my respect.

They are corrupt liars and need to be disbanded.

Yup. Plenty of people would rather plead guilty to a crime they didn't do than lose everything in legal fees. The democrats down there are warped

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Can you say "entrapment"?

The FBI is yet another institution that no longer has my respect.

They are corrupt liars and need to be disbanded.

Hmmm, must be amongst the 'unstable lefties' referenced in the OP?

Sneaky bastards - are they in charge or just mere minions?

[Michael Hardner]

26 minutes ago, eyeball said:

 Are they in charge or just mere minions?

They are 'useful idiots' - expendable to those that deploy them.

And, of course, defended to the end by the unprincipled.

[Nationalist]

12 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Hmmm, must be amongst the 'unstable lefties' referenced in the OP?

Sneaky bastards - are they in charge or just mere minions?

So here's the thing...

Multiple FISA warrants issued with multiple known lies in them.

Michael Flynn...They threatened the man with investigations into his son!

George Papadopoulos...released after 12 days because there was no there there.

RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA

January 6th and the case of the insurrectionist Chewbaka-Guy...

Doctor Anthony Fauci.

The 2020 election and the case of the broken water main...

Hunter Fuckin' Biden's laptop!

and on and on and on...

I don't believe a Gawd Damn word the "establishment" spews forth anymore. We are all just expected to disregard our instincts and senses...'Oh no...no no...it's not what you see. THIS is a PEACEFUL demonstration.'

They were so fucked up over Trump, that they took a semi-functional government and nation, and tore it to sheds for Hate's sake. It's torn my fresh, big ol' homeland in 2 as well. For this I doubt I can ever trust them again. The only true and poetic justice that come of this...this...aboration...would be for Trump to become POTUS again, march all these nonces into the Whitehouse and just go, 'You, you, you, you...oh and you 2 over there...ur all fired. Pack it up and get out. General Flynn's men will escort you. As for the rest of you...each will go through a Presidential Investigation after which the POTUS will either have General Flynn escort you out too, or you'll have new marching orders.! Class dismissed.'

THAT I would pay money to see.

[dialamah]

1 hour ago, West said:

Yup. Plenty of people would rather plead guilty to a crime they didn't do than lose everything in legal fees. The democrats down there are warped

Same in Canada.  Scare somebody with the choice between the possibility (presented as likely) of years in jail/financial ruin/family alienation vs plead guilty and get months or even just house arrest, plenty will opt for the security of knowing for sure rather than the insecurity of not knowing.  Most convictions are obtained through plea deals, not trials.

[sharkman]

In both cases, the justice systems seem to be FUBAR.

[BeaverFever]

On 4/13/2022 at 12:55 PM, Nationalist said:

Can you say "entrapment"?

The FBI is yet another institution that no longer has my respect.

They are corrupt liars and need to be disbanded.

Entrapment = “yes I did plot to kidnap the governor but only because an undercover agent suggested it” 

Can you imagine if an Islamist terrorist said the same thing about bombing a subway?

Most of the kidnap plotters are still awaiting trial and by no means have been exonerated.  

Anyway the fact remains that right wing extremists are out there’s  ready and willing to carry out these seditious and terrorist acts with only a slight nudge. We all know another right wing terrorist attack like Oklahoma City is going to happen sooner or later.  

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

Entrapment = “yes I did plot to kidnap the governor but only because an undercover agent suggested it” 

Can you imagine if an Islamist terrorist said the same thing about bombing a subway?

Most of the kidnap plotters are still awaiting trial and by no means have been exonerated.  

Anyway the fact remains that right wing extremists are out there’s  ready and willing to carry out these seditious and terrorist acts with only a slight nudge. We all know another right wing terrorist attack like Oklahoma City is going to happen sooner or later.  

Entrapment is illegal.!

Get over it.

[ironstone]

The FBI did play a big part in this event and it seems they stoked the fire too much. It made great headlines for the left, "right-wing white supremacists plan kidnapping". But there is much more to the story as usual. I don't think Americans should have too much faith in the FBI leadership these days.

FBI informants had bigger role in Whitmer kidnap plot than thought: report (yahoo.com)

[jbander1A]

On 4/12/2022 at 8:20 PM, West said:

I'm just getting caught up on the news. Four men often falsely described as white supremacists by the unstable US leftists were found not guilty in the alleged kidnapping plot  

Of course like in many of the other hoaxes (the Smollett hoax, the covington kid hoax, the Russian collusion hoax and others) the leftist media try to cover up their lies, blaming the jury, "racism", etc etc. 

What's with the left wing and hoaxes? 

When You are a weakling , this is what you say when you get caught up with the news , or if they are found guilty that then proves how the courts are run by the left. Nonsense is nonsense. Your comment is just that nonsense. Comedy level nonsense. All you Q anoners offer nothing but just that.

[jbander1A]

On 4/15/2022 at 10:55 AM, ironstone said:

The FBI did play a big part in this event and it seems they stoked the fire too much. It made great headlines for the left, "right-wing white supremacists plan kidnapping". But there is much more to the story as usual. I don't think Americans should have too much faith in the FBI leadership these days.

FBI informants had bigger role in Whitmer kidnap plot than thought: report (yahoo.com)

Ya we should have faith in the q anoners instead. I'll go with the FBI as a source over weak brained , ringed nose, haters.

[jbander1A]

On 4/15/2022 at 6:35 AM, BeaverFever said:

Entrapment = “yes I did plot to kidnap the governor but only because an undercover agent suggested it” 

Can you imagine if an Islamist terrorist said the same thing about bombing a subway?

Most of the kidnap plotters are still awaiting trial and by no means have been exonerated.  

Anyway the fact remains that right wing extremists are out there’s  ready and willing to carry out these seditious and terrorist acts with only a slight nudge. We all know another right wing terrorist attack like Oklahoma City is going to happen sooner or later.  

What a hoot , your trying to make a point that your nonsense should be believed over what the FBI said. You will have the support of every hate driven, no think, mindless person on the right. That means that the only support you will get is by the dumbest most brain dead,  anti American,  anti Government group in our population.

[jbander1A]

On 4/13/2022 at 2:44 PM, dialamah said:

Same in Canada.  Scare somebody with the choice between the possibility (presented as likely) of years in jail/financial ruin/family alienation vs plead guilty and get months or even just house arrest, plenty will opt for the security of knowing for sure rather than the insecurity of not knowing.  Most convictions are obtained through plea deals, not trials.

Everything here that you are suggesting in the meaning of the action your commenting about is a complete hoot. The humor is found in how far your hatred and ugliness will take you in your thinking, to come up with the reasons and meanings of the actions listed. I feel sorry for you people but I also know how dangerous you and your lies can be so I really can't show sympathy to you , you have to be watched 24 hours of the day so you don't find a reason to put your hatred and ugliness to work . I know for a fact that you are fine with everything above, unless it sticks your position where it belongs in jail with the other criminals.

[dialamah]

58 minutes ago, jbander1A said:

Everything here that you are suggesting in the meaning of the action your commenting about is a complete hoot.

Well, the experience of a close relative, my research and discussions with lawyers says I'm right and you are ignorant.  

Edited April 16, 2022 by dialamah

[ironstone]

2 hours ago, jbander1A said:

Ya we should have faith in the q anoners instead. I'll go with the FBI as a source over weak brained , ringed nose, haters.

Your response was 50% of what it usually is to everything you don't like but this time you left out the "bullsh*t"! 

The FBI did play quite a significant role in instigating these few guys.

[BeaverFever]

On 4/15/2022 at 8:56 AM, Nationalist said:

Entrapment is illegal.!

Get over it.

Sur it is. But just understand what it means. Because it doesn’t mean these men didn’t plot to kidnap the Governor. It means they plotted to kidnap the governor but the idea came from an undercover.  They still knowingly agreed to become terrorists, they just can’t be convicted of it   

[BeaverFever]

8 hours ago, jbander1A said:

What a hoot , your trying to make a point that your nonsense should be believed over what the FBI said. You will have the support of every hate driven, no think, mindless person on the right. That means that the only support you will get is by the dumbest most brain dead,  anti American,  anti Government group in our population.

Huh?  You talking to me?

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

Sur it is. But just understand what it means. Because it doesn’t mean these men didn’t plot to kidnap the Governor. It means they plotted to kidnap the governor but the idea came from an undercover.  They still knowingly agreed to become terrorists, they just can’t be convicted of it   

The FBI. Creating criminals.

[jbander1A]

8 hours ago, dialamah said:

Well, the experience of a close relative, my research and discussions with lawyers says I'm right and you are ignorant.  

Your ignorance is overpowered by the fact that I know everything and God himself said I am right and you are ignorant. That's straight from God himself , boy do you look foolish now.

[jbander1A]

7 hours ago, ironstone said:

Your response was 50% of what it usually is to everything you don't like but this time you left out the "bullsh*t"! 

The FBI did play quite a significant role in instigating these few guys.

So what.That's their job and the 4 are 100% guilty. When a jury finds a criminal innocent with the evidence that was presented in this case,you don't have to except the judgement of the jury. They simply got one of your hate Nazis in the jury and they don't care nothing about the law or anything or anyone , they are scum, bottom feeders who are trying to push their ugliness and hatred.

[jbander1A]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

Sur it is. But just understand what it means. Because it doesn’t mean these men didn’t plot to kidnap the Governor. It means they plotted to kidnap the governor but the idea came from an undercover.  They still knowingly agreed to become terrorists, they just can’t be convicted of it   

You think they were found not guilty because of entrapment , what a brain dead idea. They were found not guilty because they were able to get one of the hate Nazi's on the jury and he was the reason four of them were found not guilty. He sold out the constitution, our flag and our country to do it. He is nothing but pond scum. He should be shot.