The Governor Whitmer Kidnapping Hoax

[Nationalist]

19 hours ago, jbander1A said:

What a hoot , your trying to make a point that your nonsense should be believed over what the FBI said. You will have the support of every hate driven, no think, mindless person on the right. That means that the only support you will get is by the dumbest most brain dead,  anti American,  anti Government group in our population.

This...a Libbie attacking another Libbie...is why these unfortunate psychotics should be marginalized. These poor folks need help. They are a danger to themselves and the world at large.

This level of pure hatred and the rhetoric it produces has enthralled Biden. They lie as a matter of course and hold nothing but disdain for America and her constitution. 

It's sad to watch.

[ironstone]

10 hours ago, jbander1A said:

So what.That's their job and the 4 are 100% guilty. When a jury finds a criminal innocent with the evidence that was presented in this case,you don't have to except the judgement of the jury. They simply got one of your hate Nazis in the jury and they don't care nothing about the law or anything or anyone , they are scum, bottom feeders who are trying to push their ugliness and hatred.

In another topic on this site you stated a number of times that Hillary Clinton was found not guilty over and over regarding her negligence in the Benghazi attack.

So you had 100% faith in the results of that Benghazi  inquiry but in this Whitmer case you completely dismiss the verdict of a real jury?

 And I see that you want one of the jurors in the Whitmer case to be executed.

Are you sure you don't want to try and calm down and walk your anger-driven  rhetoric back?

[ironstone]

10 hours ago, jbander1A said:

Your ignorance is overpowered by the fact that I know everything and God himself said I am right and you are ignorant. That's straight from God himself , boy do you look foolish now.

You are in direct contact with God? And God told you directly that the jurors or at least one juror got it wrong in the Whitmer case? Did God also want one of the jurors to be shot or is that just your own desire ?

You really should take the time to read about the facts in this case. The FBI has often been accused of entrapment.

Inside FBI’s probe and entrapment of a Michigan militia crew (nypost.com)

Most of the conspirators were actually FBI agents. Isn't that kind of a huge red flag?

[jbander1A]

4 hours ago, ironstone said:

You are in direct contact with God? And God told you directly that the jurors or at least one juror got it wrong in the Whitmer case? Did God also want one of the jurors to be shot or is that just your own desire ?

You really should take the time to read about the facts in this case. The FBI has often been accused of entrapment.

Inside FBI’s probe and entrapment of a Michigan militia crew (nypost.com)

Most of the conspirators were actually FBI agents. Isn't that kind of a huge red flag?

Every policing force get charged with entrapment , whether there is a ounce of support or proof in it at all. Means nothing. People who say that's what happened are air brains. They in no way were let lose because of FBI entrapment and the people who are trying to sell that to other idiots and the rest of the world are creeps.

[jbander1A]

4 hours ago, ironstone said:

In another topic on this site you stated a number of times that Hillary Clinton was found not guilty over and over regarding her negligence in the Benghazi attack.

So you had 100% faith in the results of that Benghazi  inquiry but in this Whitmer case you completely dismiss the verdict of a real jury?

 And I see that you want one of the jurors in the Whitmer case to be executed.

Are you sure you don't want to try and calm down and walk your anger-driven  rhetoric back?

Who said anything about killing anyone , I said he should be shot, my best target would be his ass.

[jbander1A]

Courts in Nazi Germany came up with guilty and not guilty decisions as they were told to do by the Nazis/ We are  at this point. Trump supporter are exactly the same as Hitlers supporter .Same hate , same ugliness ,same bigotry and  based completely on lies

[ironstone]

1 hour ago, jbander1A said:

Courts in Nazi Germany came up with guilty and not guilty decisions as they were told to do by the Nazis/ We are  at this point. Trump supporter are exactly the same as Hitlers supporter .Same hate , same ugliness ,same bigotry and  based completely on lies

If you think the courts in the US are identical to those under the Nazis I would remind you that your guy Biden is in the White House.

And for the record, the US courts while not perfect by any stretch, are nowhere near as bad as under the real Nazis.

If you really and truly believe anyone that those that support Trump are as bad as Nazi supporters then it's yet another reason why nobody takes you seriously in this forum.

[taxme]

On 4/12/2022 at 6:20 PM, West said:

I'm just getting caught up on the news. Four men often falsely described as white supremacists by the unstable US leftists were found not guilty in the alleged kidnapping plot  

Of course like in many of the other hoaxes (the Smollett hoax, the covington kid hoax, the Russian collusion hoax and others) the leftist media try to cover up their lies, blaming the jury, "racism", etc etc. 

What's with the left wing and hoaxes? 

"What's wrong with the left"? They are all phukd up in their lefty liberal loser heads. Lies and hoaxes is what keeps those liars going because they keep getting morons out there to believe their lies and hoaxes. anyone that listens to the lying leftist liberal MSM today are totally clueless and totally stunned. 

The FBI got caught on this hoax kidnapping. They were behind this phkd up attempt of kidnapping. There was no real attempt to kidnap that leftist liberal buffoon of a governor. Sadly, there are just way too many fools out there that will still listen to and believe their lies and hoaxes. Some people's kids never will learn.

When the MSM goes crazy on any issue that was created for them by the leftist liberal liars and hoaxers,  the MSM will report that it must be the gospel truth. But with the MSM being so full of leftist liberals, what else can we expect from those buffoons. More bullshit, more propaganda, and more brainwashing. ?

[taxme]

6 hours ago, ironstone said:

In another topic on this site you stated a number of times that Hillary Clinton was found not guilty over and over regarding her negligence in the Benghazi attack.

So you had 100% faith in the results of that Benghazi  inquiry but in this Whitmer case you completely dismiss the verdict of a real jury?

 And I see that you want one of the jurors in the Whitmer case to be executed.

Are you sure you don't want to try and calm down and walk your anger-driven  rhetoric back?

Hitlery gets the breaks from prosecution because she is a part of the globalist establishment of lies and hoaxes. Her dues are all paid up, thus the protection from any charges for anything. She has paid her dues to the establishment globalists and she is now well protected. Another victory for the Hitlery. ?

[BeaverFever]

17 hours ago, jbander1A said:

You think they were found not guilty because of entrapment , what a brain dead idea. They were found not guilty because they were able to get one of the hate Nazi's on the jury and he was the reason four of them were found not guilty. He sold out the constitution, our flag and our country to do it. He is nothing but pond scum. He should be shot.

Well all Im saying is entrapment was the reason given by the jury for acquittal and the judge accepted it. I didn’t say it was a correct decision. Remember what separates decent people from Trumptards and their election BIG LIE is that we understand democracy means accepting results even when you disagree with them and believe the process is flawed or was improperly followed. There are established mechanisms like appeals and perhaps flaws in the system  that can be improved for next time but only a Trumptard still expects to have his way after losing and failing through all established procedures 

[BeaverFever]

17 hours ago, Nationalist said:

The FBI. Creating criminals.

Doesn’t seem to bother conservatives  when they round up gang members, drug dealers and islamist terrorists the same way. 

[jbander1A]

7 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Well all Im saying is entrapment was the reason given by the jury for acquittal and the judge accepted it. I didn’t say it was a correct decision. Remember what separates decent people from Trumptards and their election BIG LIE is that we understand democracy means accepting results even when you disagree with them and believe the process is flawed or was improperly followed. There are established mechanisms like appeals and perhaps flaws in the system  that can be improved for next time but only a Trumptard still expects to have his way after losing and failing through all established procedures 

entrapment was the reason given by the jury for acquittal and the judge accepted it. Source please. The key word being from the Jury.

 

 

[jbander1A]

7 hours ago, taxme said:

Hitlery gets the breaks from prosecution because she is a part of the globalist establishment of lies and hoaxes. Her dues are all paid up, thus the protection from any charges for anything. She has paid her dues to the establishment globalists and she is now well protected. Another victory for the Hitlery. ?

Q anon bullshit.

[West]

4 hours ago, jbander1A said:

Q anon bullshit.

She created the Russia hoax which should be enough to land her behind bars for trying to overthrow a duly elected president

[Nationalist]

13 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Doesn’t seem to bother conservatives  when they round up gang members, drug dealers and islamist terrorists the same way. 

Why should it? Those are already criminals. Do try reality...

[jbander1A]

10 hours ago, West said:

She created the Russia hoax which should be enough to land her behind bars for trying to overthrow a duly elected president

You people are so full of shit, "

But Mueller’s 448-page report did reach conclusions, especially in regards to Russia’s interference.

From the introduction of the report’s first volume: “[T]he Special Counsel’s investigation established that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election principally through two operations. First, a Russian entity carried out a social media campaign that favored presidential candidate Donald J. Trump and disparaged presidential candidate Hillary Clinton. Second, a Russian intelligence service conducted computer-intrusion operations against entities, employees, and volunteers working on the Clinton Campaign and then released stolen documents.”

The special counsel’s office in February 2018 secured an indictment against 13 Russian nationals and three Russian entities for their role in that interference. In July of that year, 12 Russian military officers were also indicted.

Regarding Mueller’s inquiry into potential coordination between the Trump campaign and Russians, the report said that “the investigation established multiple links between Trump Campaign officials and individuals tied to the Russian government. Those links included Russia offers of assistance to the Campaign. In some instances, the Campaign was receptive to the offer, while in other instances the Campaign officials shied away.”

It continued: “Ultimately, the investigation did not establish that the Campaign coordinated or conspired with the Russian government in its election-interference activities.”

We reached out to Turning Point USA inquiring about the meme’s claim but haven’t yet received a response.

It may be a reference to the fact that Mueller did not reach a conclusion on whether Trump committed obstruction of justice. Mueller’s office explicitly declined to reach a conclusion on that front, instead detailing in the report’s second volume several “key events” regarding obstruction that were investigated.

Investigators “found multiple acts by the President that were capable of exerting undue influence over law enforcement investigations, including the Russian-interference and obstruction investigations.” But, the report said, “[b]ecause we determined not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgment, we did not draw ultimate conclusions about the President’s conduct.”

Factoring into the decision to not weigh in on prosecution, according to the report (and as we’ve written before), was an opinion issued by the Office of Legal Counsel that found that a sitting president cannot be indicted.

Attorney General William P. Barr ultimately told Congress that the Justice Department wouldn’t bring charges against Trump. In a March 24 letter, Barr wrote that “the evidence developed during the Special Counsel’s investigation is not sufficient to establish that the President committed an obstruction-of-justice offense.”"      

 

Mueller couldn't Charge Trump , he had no authority to do so, and guess who saw nothing in the Mueller report to charge, yup Trump owned  Scum Bag Barr. Like I said you are full of shit.

[West]

7 minutes ago, jbander1A said:

You people are so full of shit, "

But Mueller’s 448-page report did reach conclusions, especially in regards to Russia’s interference.

From the introduction of the report’s first volume: “[T]he Special Counsel’s investigation established that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election principally through two operations. First, a Russian entity carried out a social media campaign that favored presidential candidate Donald J. Trump and disparaged presidential candidate Hillary Clinton. Second, a Russian intelligence service conducted computer-intrusion operations against entities, employees, and volunteers working on the Clinton Campaign and then released stolen documents.”

The special counsel’s office in February 2018 secured an indictment against 13 Russian nationals and three Russian entities for their role in that interference. In July of that year, 12 Russian military officers were also indicted.

Regarding Mueller’s inquiry into potential coordination between the Trump campaign and Russians, the report said that “the investigation established multiple links between Trump Campaign officials and individuals tied to the Russian government. Those links included Russia offers of assistance to the Campaign. In some instances, the Campaign was receptive to the offer, while in other instances the Campaign officials shied away.”

It continued: “Ultimately, the investigation did not establish that the Campaign coordinated or conspired with the Russian government in its election-interference activities.”

We reached out to Turning Point USA inquiring about the meme’s claim but haven’t yet received a response.

It may be a reference to the fact that Mueller did not reach a conclusion on whether Trump committed obstruction of justice. Mueller’s office explicitly declined to reach a conclusion on that front, instead detailing in the report’s second volume several “key events” regarding obstruction that were investigated.

Investigators “found multiple acts by the President that were capable of exerting undue influence over law enforcement investigations, including the Russian-interference and obstruction investigations.” But, the report said, “[b]ecause we determined not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgment, we did not draw ultimate conclusions about the President’s conduct.”

Factoring into the decision to not weigh in on prosecution, according to the report (and as we’ve written before), was an opinion issued by the Office of Legal Counsel that found that a sitting president cannot be indicted.

Attorney General William P. Barr ultimately told Congress that the Justice Department wouldn’t bring charges against Trump. In a March 24 letter, Barr wrote that “the evidence developed during the Special Counsel’s investigation is not sufficient to establish that the President committed an obstruction-of-justice offense.”"      

 

Mueller couldn't Charge Trump , he had no authority to do so, and guess who saw nothing in the Mueller report to charge, yup Trump owned  Scum Bag Barr. Like I said you are full of shit.

Sure Russia has been interfering in elections since the 70s. The US has done the same. But what does that have to do with the baseless allegations against a sitting president?

If I were an American citizen I'd be more worried about how their own tax dollars went toward propagandizing them into believing that their president was a Russian asset. What's sad is Mueller knew the allegations were false but kept the hoax going through a mid term election which no doubt swung an election. Very pathetic. 

Edited April 18, 2022 by West

[taxme]

4 hours ago, jbander1A said:

You people are so full of shit, "

But Mueller’s 448-page report did reach conclusions, especially in regards to Russia’s interference.

From the introduction of the report’s first volume: “[T]he Special Counsel’s investigation established that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election principally through two operations. First, a Russian entity carried out a social media campaign that favored presidential candidate Donald J. Trump and disparaged presidential candidate Hillary Clinton. Second, a Russian intelligence service conducted computer-intrusion operations against entities, employees, and volunteers working on the Clinton Campaign and then released stolen documents.”

The special counsel’s office in February 2018 secured an indictment against 13 Russian nationals and three Russian entities for their role in that interference. In July of that year, 12 Russian military officers were also indicted.

Regarding Mueller’s inquiry into potential coordination between the Trump campaign and Russians, the report said that “the investigation established multiple links between Trump Campaign officials and individuals tied to the Russian government. Those links included Russia offers of assistance to the Campaign. In some instances, the Campaign was receptive to the offer, while in other instances the Campaign officials shied away.”

It continued: “Ultimately, the investigation did not establish that the Campaign coordinated or conspired with the Russian government in its election-interference activities.”

We reached out to Turning Point USA inquiring about the meme’s claim but haven’t yet received a response.

It may be a reference to the fact that Mueller did not reach a conclusion on whether Trump committed obstruction of justice. Mueller’s office explicitly declined to reach a conclusion on that front, instead detailing in the report’s second volume several “key events” regarding obstruction that were investigated.

Investigators “found multiple acts by the President that were capable of exerting undue influence over law enforcement investigations, including the Russian-interference and obstruction investigations.” But, the report said, “[b]ecause we determined not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgment, we did not draw ultimate conclusions about the President’s conduct.”

Factoring into the decision to not weigh in on prosecution, according to the report (and as we’ve written before), was an opinion issued by the Office of Legal Counsel that found that a sitting president cannot be indicted.

Attorney General William P. Barr ultimately told Congress that the Justice Department wouldn’t bring charges against Trump. In a March 24 letter, Barr wrote that “the evidence developed during the Special Counsel’s investigation is not sufficient to establish that the President committed an obstruction-of-justice offense.”"      

 

Mueller couldn't Charge Trump , he had no authority to do so, and guess who saw nothing in the Mueller report to charge, yup Trump owned  Scum Bag Barr. Like I said you are full of shit.

CNN bullshit news will soon be on for you to listen to. Enjoy your daily leftist liberal propaganda and brainwashing, lefty. LOL.

[taxme]

On 4/17/2022 at 12:34 PM, BeaverFever said:

Doesn’t seem to bother conservatives  when they round up gang members, drug dealers and islamist terrorists the same way. 

Do you have a problem with gang members, drug dealers and Islamic terrorists getting caught and arrested for their crimes? it would appear to me as though lefty liberals like you are cheering on those democratic states that are all in for crimes being committed with very little charges being brought against them by their attorney generals.

In California, a scumbag can walk into a store, and steal $900 worth of goods, and cannot be arrested for doing so. Anyone that steals anything under $900 in California gets a do not go to jail pass. They do not have to fear being arrested and going to jail. No charges can be laid against those scumbags. 

If i had my way conservative way, they would all get heavy sentences and if caught doing another crime after they are released from jail, then they would get to go to jail for life with hard labor. If one does not want to observe the rules like the rest of us do, then pay the f'n price for your stupidity and I could careless attitude. Works for me. ?

[Nationalist]

On 4/17/2022 at 1:15 PM, jbander1A said:

Every policing force get charged with entrapment , whether there is a ounce of support or proof in it at all. Means nothing. People who say that's what happened are air brains. They in no way were let lose because of FBI entrapment and the people who are trying to sell that to other idiots and the rest of the world are creeps.

Does it hurt...to be so filled with hatred?

[West]

18 hours ago, taxme said:

CNN bullshit news will soon be on for you to listen to. Enjoy your daily leftist liberal propaganda and brainwashing, lefty. LOL.

It was pathetic to watch. Go from "treason". When that didn't stick, they tried going through all his tax filings to make sure the right paperwork was filed. When that didn't work they went to his love life. When that didn't work they made up a story about a Ukraine shake down.

It was ridiculous

[jbander1A]

9 minutes ago, West said:

It was pathetic to watch. Go from "treason". When that didn't stick, they tried going through all his tax filings to make sure the right paperwork was filed. When that didn't work they went to his love life. When that didn't work they made up a story about a Ukraine shake down.

It was ridiculous

No we just back up our opinions by the fact that scum bag is the lowest form of humanity , that he is total scum and this countries biggest threat and enemy , the biggest by far going back to the civil way. His follower are the same and they should all be treated as such, total anti Government, anti American scum.

[West]

44 minutes ago, jbander1A said:

No we just back up our opinions by the fact that scum bag is the lowest form of humanity , that he is total scum and this countries biggest threat and enemy , the biggest by far going back to the civil way. His follower are the same and they should all be treated as such, total anti Government, anti American scum.

There was no facts associated with any of these hoaxes. 

These democrat types are a disease to society 

Edited April 19, 2022 by West

[jbander1A]

8 hours ago, West said:

There was no facts associated with any of these hoaxes. 

These democrat types are a disease to society 

There is 2 dozen court cases both civil and criminal. He is toast, and dam what a shame spending the rest of his life in jail or court and he hasn't ever done anything illegal. Ya you bet, You people are a hoot.

[West]

5 minutes ago, jbander1A said:

There is 2 dozen court cases both civil and criminal. He is toast, and dam what a shame spending the rest of his life in jail or court and he hasn't ever done anything illegal. Ya you bet, You people are a hoot.

Lol.. frivolous bs.