2022 Federal budget

[Jack9000]

as  I am sure plenty know the budget is being released in a few hours so  use this topic to discuss what you like and don't like in it

[Zeitgeist]

Not interested in another massively inflationary waste of taxpayers’ money to buy temporary political support. Future generations will be saddled with this crippling debt that is a continued threat to our economy, freedom, security, and sovereignty. 

Edited April 7, 2022 by Zeitgeist

[Queenmandy85]

No political party is in a position to run a surplus if they were in power. Canadians want government services but they don't want to pay for them. "Everyone wants to go to heaven, but nobody wants to die to get there."

Much of the recent deficit was due to covid. How do you get people to isolate without support?  Our current debt level can be traced back to that. Next, it will be defence spending. We are going to spend billions on a token force that will still be incapable of defending the nation. Canadians do not want to make the commitment to defend the country. Getting back into a surplus will take years. 

[Moonbox]

Hyperbole aside, I'm also cringing waiting for this budget to drop.  

[ExFlyer]

Scares me that they are going to give everybody everything and we are already in the worst debt in history.
the Liberals and NDP combined will become the spendingest government in history.

Generations ahead will pay for this.

[Moonbox]

Just like his father, Justin is happy to spend as much of other people's money as required to stay in the PM's chair.  

[Jack9000]

i am looking forward to dental program or pharamacare programs because its long overdue even if i dont qualify for them i can only imagine how expensive dental is for someone on minamum wage .. 8b  On spending for defence is  nothing but a waste cause our defence will still be  useless.

Edited April 7, 2022 by Jack9000

[Nefarious Banana]

Expecting a 'raise' in your 7 month stay at home pogey payments?

[eyeball]

3 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

Not interested in another massively inflationary waste of taxpayers’ money to buy temporary political support. Future generations will be saddled with this crippling debt that is a continued threat to our economy, freedom, security, and sovereignty. 

I'm no more concerned about the size of our debt or its impact on future generations than you are about climate change.

In fact there's a direct correlation between the two states of concern. The less you people care the less I care.

Edited April 7, 2022 by eyeball

[Zeitgeist]

14 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I'm no more concerned about the size of our debt or its impact on future generations than you are about climate change.

In fact there's a direct correlation between the two states of concern. The less you people care the less I care.

Human made climate change is unprovable.  Debt is real, unless you think it’s fine to steal people’s stuff.  Oh yeah, you’re a Marxist. How could I forget. The communists are into collectivization, which is theft.  

[Jack9000]

2 hours ago, Nefarious Banana said:

Expecting a 'raise' in your 7 month stay at home pogey payments?

nope that raise goes in every january  if you followed the system you would know more :). and to be fair my old job was 9.5months and laid off for jan feb  and half of march  but company shut it down so had to accept  a 5 month job in same company .  not my fault its how the fishery works. the system is the system deal with it

[Nefarious Banana]

Working for cash?

Working the system?

Declared income?

Embarrassed?

 

[Jack9000]

29 minutes ago, Nefarious Banana said:

Working for cash?

Working the system?

Declared income?

Embarrassed?

 

 

none of those 4 actually.  i do know many people who due work for cash while on ei though however i don't .  its how the fishing industry works.. ido my 60 hour weeks i get top ei and  thats how it goes.. embarrassed? not even  the system has been that way for decades.

Edited April 7, 2022 by Jack9000

[Queenmandy85]

2 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

Human made climate change is unprovable.

No, it is provable. We can measure the amount of carbon emmissions produced. We can measure the PPM of GHG's in the atmosphere and from that, you can calculate the impact on the re-radiation of energy. It is physics. 

Edited April 7, 2022 by Queenmandy85

[blackbird]

The 2022 budget proves once again that Socialist systems get an F for failure.  Socialist systems want everything but they fund nothing adequately.  An example is the public health care system.  The provincial and federal governments do not provide adequate funding for the health care system because to provide proper care for everyone would require a vast amount of funding.  So we have 900,000 people in B.C. who do not have their own doctor.  The system provides a degree of health care for everyone, but it is inadequate for many who need health care.  The majority think it is adequate but that is only because most of them are in the younger age bracket and do not yet require health care.  Many people who require health care start to learn the deficiencies of the system.  It is the same with the public insurance system in B.C.  B.C. pays the highest auto insurance rates in north America.  They have been over-charging us for years and the last year or so have been giving rebates because they have been caught with their hands in the till to often.  But that's Socialism.  Inefficient, wasteful and expensive.  But it keeps a lot of bureaucrats employed to run it who have all the job security, benefits, and pensions that many other people do not have.  

[Zeitgeist]

13 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

No, it is provable. We can measure the amount of carbon emmissions produced. We can measure the PPM of GHG's in the atmosphere and from that, you can calculate the impact on the re-radiation of energy. It is physics. 

There’s no way of knowing how much of that change in PPM is due to naturally occurring phenomena such as sunspot activity, volcanic activity, orbital distance, whether we are moving towards or away from an ice age, etc.

We are more impacted by climate phenomena due to our higher global population.  Don’t worry about that, as world population is set to start declining sharply after 2050. Our decreased population and technological advances will reduce emissions.  No need to crush families with the Existence Tax (carbon taxes).  

Edited April 7, 2022 by Zeitgeist

[blackbird]

10 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

No, it is provable. We can measure the amount of carbon emmissions produced. We can measure the PPM of GHFG's in the atmosphere and from that, you can calculate the impact on the re-radiation of energy. It is physics. 

Not really.  There is no way to determine if man is causing global warming because man only contributes 3% of the total greenhouse (CO2) in the atmosphere.  The other 97% of CO2 is natural.  Therefore it has been impossible to prove man is the cause.  Man is blamed simply because it is in human nature to blame mankind for everything and now including the weather and climate.  Besides it is a good excuse for the U.N. to extort more money from developed nations to give to the rest of the world.

[West]

4 hours ago, Jack9000 said:

i am looking forward to dental program or pharamacare programs because its long overdue even if i dont qualify for them i can only imagine how expensive dental is for someone on minamum wage .. 8b  On spending for defence is  nothing but a waste cause our defence will still be  useless.

Sounds great until you get thrown on a waiting list for a teeth cleaning. 

[cougar]

2 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

Human made climate change is unprovable.  Debt is real, unless you think it’s fine to steal people’s stuff.  Oh yeah, you’re a Marxist. How could I forget. The communists are into collectivization, which is theft.  

It is fine to steal according to your government.  They steal the land of wildlife to then sell it to you.  

 

 

[West]

22 minutes ago, blackbird said:

The 2022 budget proves once again that Socialist systems get an F for failure.  Socialist systems want everything but they fund nothing adequately.  An example is the public health care system.  The provincial and federal governments do not provide adequate funding for the health care system because to provide proper care for everyone would require a vast amount of funding.  So we have 900,000 people in B.C. who do not have their own doctor.  The system provides a degree of health care for everyone, but it is inadequate for many who need health care.  The majority think it is adequate but that is only because most of them are in the younger age bracket and do not yet require health care.  Many people who require health care start to learn the deficiencies of the system.  It is the same with the public insurance system in B.C.  B.C. pays the highest auto insurance rates in north America.  They have been over-charging us for years and the last year or so have been giving rebates because they have been caught with their hands in the till to often.  But that's Socialism.  Inefficient, wasteful and expensive.  But it keeps a lot of bureaucrats employed to run it who have all the job security, benefits, and pensions that many other people do not have.  

Exactly. Ration health care and make people wait years for any sort of therapy. 

[West]

19 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Not really.  There is no way to determine if man is causing global warming because man only contributes 3% of the total greenhouse (CO2) in the atmosphere.  The other 97% of CO2 is natural.  Therefore it has been impossible to prove man is the cause.  Man is blamed simply because it is in human nature to blame mankind for everything and now including the weather and climate.  Besides it is a good excuse for the U.N. to extort more money from developed nations to give to the rest of the world.

We believe we have more control than we actually do. Some people are good at convincing you if you give them more of your money they'll solve it for you.

[ExFlyer]

18 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Not really.  There is no way to determine if man is causing global warming because man only contributes 3% of the total greenhouse (CO2) in the atmosphere.  The other 97% of CO2 is natural.  Therefore it has been impossible to prove man is the cause.  Man is blamed simply because it is in human nature to blame mankind for everything and now including the weather and climate.  Besides it is a good excuse for the U.N. to extort more money from developed nations to give to the rest of the world.

Try to get the greenies to explain all of earths ice ages? Covered in ice to the equators? What caused them.

Better yet, what caused all the ice to disappear and melt? Too many dinosaur farts?

Maybe there is an earth cycle that has something to do with global warming?

[cougar]

23 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Not really.  There is no way to determine if man is causing global warming because man only contributes 3% of the total greenhouse (CO2) in the atmosphere.  The other 97% of CO2 is natural.  Therefore it has been impossible to prove man is the cause.  Man is blamed simply because it is in human nature to blame mankind for everything and now including the weather and climate.  Besides it is a good excuse for the U.N. to extort more money from developed nations to give to the rest of the world.

If you can't determine what is causing climate change you can always ask God.

3% ??????  !!!!!!!! My God!  90% of all forests in the world are gone, we keep pumping carbon in the atmosphere at record ever increasing levels and you, the expert (can'r remember which number I had assigned to you)  are telling us it is 3% and the rest in natural !   WOW !

[cougar]

4 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Too many dinosaur farts?

 

Too many ExFlyer and Blackbird farts for sure.

[ExFlyer]

12 minutes ago, cougar said:

Too many ExFlyer and Blackbird farts for sure.

Duhh., one of the lamest attempts at...humour? insult? shaming? ever, for sure.

Get creative Dude.

 

Edited April 7, 2022 by ExFlyer