Yzermandius19 Posted February 7, 2022 Report Share Posted February 7, 2022 12 minutes ago, Aristides said: So why did they want overturn an election and make Trump king? the Democrats want to overturn elections they lose too obvious lesser evil is obvious though and the Republicans are a notable upgrade on every major party in North America with the Democrats and the major Canadian political parties having gone totally insane the bar isn't exactly set all that high 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted February 7, 2022 Report Share Posted February 7, 2022 19 minutes ago, Aristides said: So don’t listen. And if I see a confederate flag or a N**i symbol ? Should I look away ? Or is somebody making my eyes see things that did not happen ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted February 7, 2022 Report Share Posted February 7, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: And if I see a confederate flag or a N**i symbol ? Should I look away ? Or is somebody making my eyes see things that did not happen ? you look the other way when left protests are far worse but the slightest outlier from a right wing protest and it's the end of the world to you you are Herbert Marcuse's repressive tolerance incarnate Edited February 7, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted February 7, 2022 Report Share Posted February 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: but the slightest outlier from a right wing protest and it's the end of the world to you Yes, you are misrepresenting me 100% which is why you are not a worthy discussion partner. I didn't say the protests were discredited - but keep lying about me, that's fine... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted February 7, 2022 Report Share Posted February 7, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Yes, you are misrepresenting me 100% which is why you are not a worthy discussion partner. I didn't say the protests were discredited - but keep lying about me, that's fine... you misrepresent yourself your left leaning bias is obvious to all as is your obvious anti-right bias you might fool yourself but you don't fool me Edited February 7, 2022 by Yzermandius19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted February 7, 2022 Report Share Posted February 7, 2022 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: you misrepresent yourself your obvious left leaning bias is obvious to all as is your obvious anti-right bias you might fool yourself but you don't fool me Hahahaha.... I'm conservative. I believe in principles, you see. This is why I ask about such things in the abstract. You need a punching bag - I recommend the local YMCA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted February 7, 2022 Report Share Posted February 7, 2022 3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: That is not to say they 'listen' but it may be speech to text transcripts... That's frightening and unconstitutional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted February 7, 2022 Report Share Posted February 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Moonlight Graham said: That's frightening and unconstitutional. I highly doubt it. I would have been challenged by now - anyway side topic but we fought about it on these very boards probably 10-15 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted February 7, 2022 Report Share Posted February 7, 2022 3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: I'm working from memory here, but I believe that Canadian security agents have and use monitoring ability on all phone calls without warrant at present. The legal thing to do would be to get a warrant if they want to track terrorist or other criminals. The illegal thing to do is treat everyone as a potential criminal and infringe on their charter rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted February 7, 2022 Report Share Posted February 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: I highly doubt it. I would have been challenged by now - anyway side topic but we fought about it on these very boards probably 10-15 years ago. Section 8 of the Charter. The same reason police can't enter your home to search without a warrant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted February 7, 2022 Report Share Posted February 7, 2022 On 2/5/2022 at 10:15 AM, Goddess said: You sound like you're speaking from first hand experience. Except you were raised in terror of the left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted February 7, 2022 Report Share Posted February 7, 2022 21 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Hahahaha.... I'm conservative. I believe in principles, you see. This is why I ask about such things in the abstract. You need a punching bag - I recommend the local YMCA you're the classic fake conservative Canadian your principles are anti-liberty you are for conserving an iron curtain against American freedom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted February 7, 2022 Report Share Posted February 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said: 1. The legal thing to do would be to get a warrant if they want to track terrorist or other criminals. The illegal thing to do is treat everyone as a potential criminal and infringe on their charter rights. 2. Section 8 of the Charter. The same reason police can't enter your home to search without a warrant. 1. 2. You apparently were not here when we were discussing that. Go find the threads - this is about honk honk. But yeah you are not wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goddess Posted February 7, 2022 Report Share Posted February 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, eyeball said: You sound like you're speaking from first hand experience. Except you were raised in terror of the left. No. I just give a shit what all this is doing to the children. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted February 7, 2022 Report Share Posted February 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, Goddess said: No. I just give a shit what all this is doing to the children. I care too. Do you have kids? I have 4 grandkids, two are school age. They all seem to be fine, I'm not hearing reports from family or friends in my circle and herabouts regarding insurmountable psychological issues or problems with their kids. I think media reports may be a little over the top but that's to be expected, it's controversial, it's scary and has other newsworthy qualities that serve the media's needs. I think I can safely use my own experience and what I see on the ground to adjust my inbound information filters to account for that. I just don't think its doing as much damage as some would like us to believe. It's like the stories about hunger due to bare shelves and food shortages due to supply chains and protests. I don't see starving emaciated shoppers pushing empty carts around the grocery stores everywhere I go and I have plenty of food to keep me happy. I admit I nearly melted down when I couldn't find my favourite ice cream the other day...thankfully I'll be seeing my psychiatrist later this week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted February 7, 2022 Report Share Posted February 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Aristides said: So don’t listen. I don't, but apparently 57% do. That's bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted February 7, 2022 Report Share Posted February 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: And if I see a confederate flag or a N**i symbol ? Should I look away ? Or is somebody making my eyes see things that did not happen ? Exactly. "If". "If" you do, can you post a link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted February 7, 2022 Report Share Posted February 7, 2022 4 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said: How so? The NSA in the States has been recording every phone call that anyone makes for years decades. Sound files are very small, they don't take up a lot fo hard drive space. If you start saying a lot of their buzzwords on the phone (or around your cellphone nowadays), for example the things that you can't say in an airport or on a plane, you can trigger closer inspection of all your phone calls. Also, if you start making too many calls to people who are on their radar, they can go back further and snoop through all of your older calls. This isn't something that they use to solve murders, they don't their intelligence gathering capabilities to be public knowledge because they want to use them to catch the bigger fish, but they definitely have it and they definitely use it. Snowden leaked some of this information, and another famous example of the NSA's technology is when they were hunting for Pablo Escobar: they used voice recognition on every single phone call within hundreds of miles of where they expected him to be. Maybe every phone call in NA for all I know. He couldn't talk personally on a cell phone or the DEA would be all over him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted February 7, 2022 Report Share Posted February 7, 2022 52 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: 1. 2. You apparently were not here when we were discussing that. Go find the threads - this is about honk honk. But yeah you are not wrong. Let us continue the honk honk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted February 7, 2022 Report Share Posted February 7, 2022 25 minutes ago, eyeball said: I care too. Do you have kids? I have 4 grandkids, two are school age. They all seem to be fine, I'm not hearing reports from family or friends in my circle and herabouts regarding insurmountable psychological issues or problems with their kids. I think media reports may be a little over the top but that's to be expected, it's controversial, it's scary and has other newsworthy qualities that serve the media's needs. I think I can safely use my own experience and what I see on the ground to adjust my inbound information filters to account for that. I just don't think its doing as much damage as some would like us to believe. It's like the stories about hunger due to bare shelves and food shortages due to supply chains and protests. I don't see starving emaciated shoppers pushing empty carts around the grocery stores everywhere I go and I have plenty of food to keep me happy. I admit I nearly melted down when I couldn't find my favourite ice cream the other day...thankfully I'll be seeing my psychiatrist later this week. You haven’t got a clue how much children have suffered throughout the pandemic. Their childhoods have been stolen. No sports or activities or play dates for much of the past two years. I’m surprised that you don’t appreciate this as a grandfather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goddess Posted February 7, 2022 Report Share Posted February 7, 2022 13 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Exactly. "If". "If" you do, can you post a link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted February 7, 2022 Report Share Posted February 7, 2022 On 2/5/2022 at 10:20 AM, Winston said: Don't spread false info. 86.31 % of 56,495 support the convoy of truckers protesting the vaccine restrictions to Canada. https://www.saanichnews.com/web-poll/poll-do-you-support-the-convoy-of-truckers-protesting-vaccine-restrictions-in-canada/ The polls you link are extremely small, find larger sample sizes. Also reread your polls, they do not say what you claim they are saying. This is a perfect example of polls being used for fake news. I really doubt the 57% stat that the alt-left MSM is pushing (I'll clarify: I saw that quoted on this site), but it's not really worth fighting about. They might have done that poll in Ottawa, or on one of their own disinformation websites, but every major poll that I've seen shows that Canadians are done with lockdowns and mandates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted February 7, 2022 Report Share Posted February 7, 2022 New idea: round up all old people that want to be safe and put them in a special quarantine zone so everyone else can go back to normal. Do it for the children. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted February 7, 2022 Report Share Posted February 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Goddess said: I saw that video on FB. I just subscribed to that guy's youtube channel but I don't really know what that means. I've never really followed anything on youtube. I guess I'll find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted February 7, 2022 Report Share Posted February 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Moonlight Graham said: New idea: round up all old people that want to be safe and put them in a special quarantine zone so everyone else can go back to normal. Do it for the children. That's a terrible idea. It's like putting fish in a barrel for guys like Gov Cuomo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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