Trucker's Convoy

[Dougie93]

Just now, WestCanMan said:

Finish this sentence for me:

The government's right to beat peaceful, innocent people and unilaterally freeze their banks accounts in the name of political expedience is a fact of life in Canada now, just as it is/was in every other [free, democratic society] or [fascist dictatorship].

non sequitur

[WestCanMan]

5 minutes ago, taxme said:

We now have to wonder as to what did the truckers gain by their actions? Maybe it brought some attention to the whole covid lie and hoax, but it would appear as though they got nothing out of it but arrests. Marxist dictator Trudeau gave them the finger and he got away with it. 

Entire provinces dropped the mandates right at the start of the protests, so it wasn't for nothing. 

The MSM didn't make a big deal of it, but that was a slap in the face of Trudeau. 

If Trump was the fascist dictator and states were going against his dictatorial policies the MSM would have blared it at max stupidity 24/7 for weeks. "GOVERNORS STRUCK A BLOW FOR FREEDOM TODAY THAT WILL REVERBERATE AGAINST TYRANNY UNTIL THE END OF TIME!" You know the drill. 

[WestCanMan]

3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

non sequitur

Wrong it's this one:

The government's right to beat peaceful, innocent people and unilaterally freeze their banks accounts in the name of political expedience is a fact of life in Canada now, just as it is/was in every other fascist dictatorship.

 

[Dougie93]

Just now, WestCanMan said:

Wrong it's this one:

The government's right to beat peaceful, innocent people and unilaterally freeze their banks accounts in the name of political expedience is a fact of life in Canada now, just as it is/was in every other fascist dictatorship.

non sequitur

[WestCanMan]

8 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

non sequitur

Are you done calling fascism "pragmatic" now? 

Thanks. It was getting weird in here.

 

[Nationalist]

25 minutes ago, taxme said:

We now have to wonder as to what did the truckers gain by their actions? Maybe it brought some attention to the whole covid lie and hoax, but it would appear as though they got nothing out of it but arrests. Marxist dictator Trudeau gave them the finger and he got away with it. 

Now, in cities like Calgary and Edmonton, the city mayors have now made it pretty much illegal to peacefully demonstrate. So much for the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, which is supposed to guarantee the right to peacefully demonstrate. Slowly but surely, Canada is fast becoming more and more communist like every day. Our traitorous politicians refuse to abide by the COR. They appear to despise the COR. 

The covid lie and hoax was the beginning of the end for rights and freedoms in Canada as we once knew them. Watch out this coming fall. These traitors are not finished with us just yet even though they have been gracious enough to give us back a little freedom for now. Premier Ford is looking at doing the same thing in Ontario also. These political leaders really must hate Canada and Canadians. They always appear to have such contempt for we the peasants. ?

 

I think I can help with that.

What it "did"...is open the eyes of millions of Canadians.

The issue here...IMO...is one of "trust". I've had many discussions...some heated and some rational...with folks in here and 1 thing now seems clear to me. People who cannot admit the institutions we have built in Canada...and the US for that matter...would lie to them, must maintain their "trust" in the institutions. I feel this might have been amplified by the presidency of Trump, but it all really comes down to a question of simple "trust".

Do I trust the various institutions? For the most part...no. Nor do you. And since the convoy, an exponential increase has happened in others who no longer can "trust" our institutions.

This Libbie movement...this SJW operetta...this dance with the Devil...this Globalist movement is being shown and finally realized and acknowledged for what it really is.

Fascism.

Yet I choose to have faith in people. They are awakening and we will halt this adoration of societal abuse.

This is gonna sound really weird coming from me but...re-read Revelations.

Edited March 24, 2022 by Nationalist

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

Are you done calling fascism "pragmatic" now? 

Thanks. It was getting weird in here.

 

strawman

[WestCanMan]

25 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

strawman

You said that Trudeau was being pragmatic, while his actions were that of a fascist. 

An example of using Trudeau's tactics in a pragmatic sense would be if the Freedom Convoy was carrying on like BLM. Then the amount of force that Trudeau used would have been reasonable and sensible, to stop the assaults against civilians and police and all of the property damage. 

Using violence against reasonable, peaceful and sensible protests is and always will be considered fascist in free, democratic societies. And FYI pragmatic and fascist aren't synonymous here, although they were by Hitler's standards.

[Dougie93]

3 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

You said that Trudeau was being pragmatic, while his actions were that of a fascist. 

An example of using Trudeau's tactics in a pragmatic sense would be if the Freedom Convoy was carrying on like BLM. Then the amount of force that Trudeau used would have been reasonable and sensible, to stop the assaults against civilians and police and all of the property damage. 

Using violence against reasonable, peaceful and sensible protests is and always will be considered fascist in free, democratic societies. And FYI pragmatic and fascist aren't synonymous here, although they were by Hitler's standards.

strawman

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, Goddess said:

The FAA now requires a 48 hour waiting period for pilots after vaccination with the covid jabs.  Some feel 48 hours is not nearly long enough, although according to VAERRS, the majority of adverse events, deaths and injuries occur within the first 48 hours.

I wonder if the 48 hrs was implemented because they noticed an increase in adverse effects among their pilots who flew during that period or if it was just from a general concern from what they see in the VAERS reporting system.

I didn't think that anyone in NA was supposed to take vaccine adverse effects into consideration at all, we're supposed to act like they don't exist at all. 

[WestCanMan]

9 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

strawman

Ostrich.

I guess we'll just have to agree that your version of pragmatic is a little bit more fascist than mine. 

[Dougie93]

Just now, WestCanMan said:

Ostrich.

I guess we'll just have to agree that your version of pragmatic is a little bit more fascist than mine. 

feel free to carry on with your fallacious self indulgent ranting, it's no bother

[Dougie93]

I would reject the idea that Trudeau is a fascist

reason being, the core principle of fascism is ethno nationalist

and Trudeau is quite obviously the opposite of that

rather, Trudeau is simply a totalitarian liberal

all three modern political theories, liberalism, fascism & communism,  are now trying to survive in postmodernity

in this competition, even the liberals have become totalitarian

postmodernity being deconstruction,  with poses an existential threat to all three modern political theories

in the face of this, liberals have now become as aggressively authoritarian as both the fascists & communists

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Ostrich.

I guess we'll just have to agree that your version of pragmatic is a little bit more fascist than mine. 

So to you fascism is almost like a fundamental particle of the universe that's in everything but just comes in varying amounts? Next to nothing in your's or Putin's case and so much in Trudeau the detector blows a fuse.

[Dougie93]

I don't think Trudeau really has any ideology

he is literally an idiot, entirely vacuous

he's always been the ridiculous pampered foppish son of Maggie Trudeau

by crushing the protests, Trudeau was essentially pandering to the NDP

the purpose was simply to retain power

the result is that Trudeau now has an effective majority government for three more years

 

[Moonbox]

2 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

I don't think Trudeau really has any ideology

he is literally an idiot, entirely vacuous

he's always been the ridiculous pampered foppish son of Maggie Trudeau

Yeah...honestly I can't really argue with that.  

2 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

by crushing the protests, Trudeau was essentially pandering to the NDP

he was pandering to like 80% of Canada's population.  If the protests weren't so disruptive (especially at the Ambassador Bridge), he'd not have had public opinion on his side like he did.  The Freedom Convoy went out of their way to make a nuisance of themselves.  

2 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

the result is that Trudeau now has an effective majority government for three more years

3.5!  Hurray...

[Dougie93]

19 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Yeah...honestly I can't really argue with that.  

he was pandering to like 80% of Canada's population.  If the protests weren't so disruptive (especially at the Ambassador Bridge), he'd not have had public opinion on his side like he did.  The Freedom Convoy went out of their way to make a nuisance of themselves.  

3.5!  Hurray...

the protests have only just begun

inflation is burning out of control

interest rates will rise precipitously soon

all heck will break loose in the wake

[Dougie93]

for me personally, the protest was not ideoloigical

I'm not militant about vaccines either way

it really just came down to a request for help from other decorated Canadian veterans

they called a stand to

so I came to their aid

Legio Patria Nostra

[taxme]

23 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

I never obeyed an unlawful order,

I was fully compliant at all times with national and international law and the laws of armed conflict

So, why are you not in some military jail then? Disobey an order from your commanding officer would put you in jail. 

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, taxme said:

So, why are you not in some military jail then? Disobey an order from your commanding officer would put you in jail. 

not if it is an unlawful order

I have only refused an order twice

the first time was a range safety violation, I overruled the RSO

the second time was an order to testify against my roommate

I told them they could court martial me, but I would never testify against my brother in arms

so they backed down, withdrew the order, said I was free to go

[Dougie93]

8 minutes ago, taxme said:

So, why are you not in some military jail then? Disobey an order from your commanding officer would put you in jail. 

I should say

I have been in detention, twice

for brawling with other soldiers

I pleaded guilty, twice

under Section 129 of the Queen's Regulations & Orders

Conduct Prejudice to the Good Order & Disciplne

but I served my time, 28 days in total

[taxme]

22 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Wrong it's this one:

The government's right to beat peaceful, innocent people and unilaterally freeze their banks accounts in the name of political expedience is a fact of life in Canada now, just as it is/was in every other fascist dictatorship.

 

I am curious as to why peaceful protests against covid mandates in Calgary and Edmonton have suddenly become a crime and any covid protests on those streets in those cities is now against the law. But there seems to be no problem with peacefully protesting against the feud going on between Russia and the Ukraine. Parade and demonstrate all you want too. No problem. 

So, why is some protests okay while others are not? I guess it all depends on what side of the political fence that one sits on. Covid mandate protests appear to be a no-no anymore. ?

[Goddess]

21 minutes ago, taxme said:

I am curious as to why peaceful protests against covid mandates in Calgary and Edmonton have suddenly become a crime and any covid protests on those streets in those cities is now against the law. But there seems to be no problem with peacefully protesting against the feud going on between Russia and the Ukraine. Parade and demonstrate all you want too. No problem. 

So, why is some protests okay while others are not? I guess it all depends on what side of the political fence that one sits on. Covid mandate protests appear to be a no-no anymore. ?

There is soooo much coming to light now, I think the elites are running scared and desperate to shut it down - especially Trudeau, as he's personally invested in and making money off the jabs.

New studies out of Poland and Germany, verifying what the censored scientists have been saying for 2 years.  UK NHS just released stats that 90% of ones dying of covid now are fully jabbed and boosted.  The Alberta stats are going much the same way now. Censored scientists said each successive jab lowers immune system - making covid deadlier, flus deadlier, opening up the immune system to everything your body was probably going to develop when you eventually got to your senior years.  The covid-obsessed chick I work with, who tests almost every day and is triple-jabbed now is off work most days due to newly developed hypertension (a common adverse event). She's 32 and now on meds for it.

I always keep my eye on Israel and the UK.  They are just a few months ahead of us in what's happening.

[taxme]

3 minutes ago, Goddess said:

There is soooo much coming to light now, I think the elites are running scared and desperate to shut it down - especially Trudeau, as he's personally invested in and making money off the jabs.

New studies out of Poland and Germany, verifying what the censored scientists have been saying for 2 years.  UK NHS just released stats that 90% of ones dying of covid now are fully jabbed and boosted.  The Alberta stats are going much the same way now. Censored scientists said each successive jab lowers immune system - making covid deadlier, flus deadlier, opening up the immune system to everything your body was probably going to develop when you eventually got to your senior years.  The covid-obsessed chick I work with, who tests almost every day and is triple-jabbed now is off work most days due to newly developed hypertension (a common adverse event). She's 32 and now on meds for it.

I always keep my eye on Israel and the UK.  They are just a few months ahead of us in what's happening.

There were many prominent scientists and doctors out there who have been warning us for quite some time now that these vaccines are full of dangerous immune destroying garbage for anyone to be taking. We are now only beginning to see as to what these vaccines are doing to we the peasants. And it will only get worse as time goes on. And those that keep taking booster jabs will even be worse off. But they have been warned, but they refuse to listen. 

When people are putting their faith in their doctors(take an oath to do no harm)or worse their media and politicians and those so called health experts, they really are asking for trouble.

I know that this is not what this thread is all about, but hey, sometimes these things will happen. I dare not say anymore about this covid anymore on this truckers thread. 

While trucker protests have now become illegal in cities like Calgary and Edmonton, protests against what is happening in the Ukraine is A okay. What is with this double standard anyway? Does it now matter as to what side of the political spectrum that one belongs too? Dam well looks like it to me alright. Just my opinion of course. ?

[Goddess]

One new ruling against CTV for disingenuous reporting regarding residential schools:

2022 CBSC 1 (CanLII) | CKCO-DT (CTV Kitchener) re CTV News at Five report (painted statue) | CanLII

 

and a court case coming up - CN employees file against the company and the Transportation Minister for vaxx mandate firings:

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The statement of claim, filed March 4, by lawyer Leighton Grey of Grey Wowk Spencer LLP, names Canadian National Railway, the Director of Rail Transport Michael DeJong and Transport Minister Omar Alghabra as respondents.

The suit alleges that CN's mandatory vaccination policy, which requires employees to have had two doses of COVID-19 vaccine on or before January 24, 2022, discriminates against an identifiable group of Canadians and does not provide exemptions for Canadians with natural immunity or those with conscientious objections or for those working remotely or with little to no contact with other colleagues.

Employees not complying with the policy or refusing to provide vaccination status to their managers had been put on unpaid leave, something Grey argues is akin to constructive dismissal.

The suit also argues that by putting unvaccinated employees on unpaid leave, their vaccination status became immediately apparent to other employees, violating their medical privacy.

 

 

Thank you, truckers