Trucker's Convoy

[WestCanMan]

4 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

 I also think about half the posters on here are basically in denial.  They always shout conspiracy any time government narratives are questioned.  Some, like Moonbox, are apologists for the Liberal government.

We just saw a poster decide not to look at direct evidence of bioweapons in Ukraine. IE, choose to just blindly obey known propaganda.

We finally transitioned from "People are really trying hard not to face facts" to "People are finally admitting that they are choosing the propaganda over the facts."

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 Others, mostly the elderly, buy into the pandemic fear and think that all this business of vaccine mandates is keeping them safe.

I was born in '68 and I grew up watching the news, but I didn't watch much between '90 and 2010. Once the cold war was over I didn't dedicate blocks of time to it. Maybe that's why it doesn't have its hooks in me like it does with some other people. 

I can see how people who are 25 years older than me, and trusted the news from 1950 until now, can't shake the habit. It makes sense that the boomers buy into the fear mongering, because it's really hard to provide absolute proof of what's BS regarding covid and the vax. 

The war in Ukraine is far more important though, and there are undeniable facts that we have access to, and people should at the very least look. 

[eyeball]

10 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I presented you a video, along with the exact second of the video to look at, where you could have the absolute truth of the matter

Why would I waste my time confirming it doesn't say "We're worried that the Russians will get their hands on the bioweapons that we have in Ukraine?"

You told me yourself it wouldn't say that when you tried to backpeddle your bullshit right here.

15 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

https://tuckercarlson.com/tucker-the-pentagon-is-lying-about-bio-labs-in-ukraine/

Here ya go. This video is only 16 minutes long and if you care about the war in Ukraine and/or bioweapons you should watch it.

Just 3 minutes in you can see video for yourself of Victoria Nuland, the Deputy Sec of State for Ukraine, under oath at a Senate Foreign Relations Committee meeting, informing Marco Rubio that there are bioweapons in Ukrainian labs that they're worried the Russians will get. 

They're not "bioweapons labs" or anything like that, in fact it's treasonous to say that they are, they're just normal labs where they keep bioweapons so that they can do research on them. 

I think that they even have those labs that research bioweapons (which again, aren't to be confused with bioweapon research labs) in junior high schools sometimes, it's no big deal to study things like anthrax, tularemia and Q fever. So make sure that no Russians get into our junior high schools. 

 You're backpeddling on your backpeddle now?

[West]

4 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

We just saw a poster decide not to look at direct evidence of bioweapons in Ukraine. IE, choose to just blindly obey known propaganda.

We finally transitioned from "People are really trying hard not to face facts" to "People are finally admitting that they are choosing the propaganda over the facts."

I was born in '68 and I grew up watching the news, but I didn't watch much between '90 and 2010. Once the cold war was over I didn't dedicate blocks of time to it. Maybe that's why it doesn't have its hooks in me like it does with some other people. 

I can see how people who are 25 years older than me, and trusted the news from 1950 until now, can't shake the habit. It makes sense that the boomers buy into the fear mongering, because it's really hard to provide absolute proof of what's BS regarding covid and the vax. 

The war in Ukraine is far more important though, and there are undeniable facts that we have access to, and people should at the very least look. 

This is true. 

It'd be alot easier to be a CTV subscriber. You can just say "I trust the experts" over and over again, change your FB page to a black square or whatever the next fad is, and claim moral superiority.

Trouble is once you are aware of the propaganda its sickening and hard to unsee it

[eyeball]

7 minutes ago, West said:

So in your delusion, he said the government of Canada is the National Socialist German Worker's Party? 

No, you did when you said he was factually correct to characterize Canada's vaccine pass as being a product of the Nazi party.

Canada is not governed by Nazi's and if you think it is it's because you're ill. 

[WestCanMan]

4 hours ago, myata said:

Imagine a villain, a murderous gangster who robs as he breathes and killed hundreds of innocent people. One night he breaks into your house with a big gun to your head and says, maybe you had prohibited stuff here, too bad. Sounds close enough?

Where the heck with "bio" stuff came from, what does it have to do with Russia's crimes? Russia is the last country on this Earth, past North Korea now to be listened to about threats and violations.

Your whole understanding of the story is complete bullshit.

1) The war in Ukraine wasn't a surprise attack, and

2) the Russians absolutely knew about the bioweapons before this started

3) Ukraine had every opportunity to avoid war, and they didn't have to bend over backwards to do it. 

The actual story is this:

You live between two huge a-holes who hate each other.

A-Hole #1 accused someone of having murder weapons, when they knew that was a lie, and then they went to that person's home and killed them. That one lives far away, without much influence in your area.

A-Hole #2 is your next-door neighbour. They want you to stay neutral, but everyone knows that you have murder weapons which you purchased with A1. You and A1 deny that you have the weapons but the cat is outta the bag. A2 and his gang surround your house. They tell you that you have to disavow A1 and you'll be fine, but you keep dealing with A1 and you're both publicly stating your intent to formalize a mutual defence pact. You get a last warning from A2 but you tell him to pound sand. A2 attacks your house. But it's all A2's fault, right myata? 

[West]

4 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No, you did when you said he was factually correct to characterize Canada's vaccine pass as being a product of the Nazi party.

Canada is not governed by Nazi's and if you think it is it's because you're ill. 

The pass is widely known as Gesundheitspass or the Nazi Pass for short. Don't see how that's saying the National Socialist German Workers Party is in office. Just the Liberal Party

[eyeball]

15 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

We just saw a poster decide not to look at direct evidence of bioweapons in Ukraine. IE, choose to just blindly obey known propaganda.

No, I took you at your word that you corrected yourself by admitting it wouldn't say what you originally said which is

"We're worried that the Russians will get their hands on the bioweapons that we have in Ukraine?"

No US government spokesperson said this word for word they way you did.  

[WestCanMan]

9 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Why would I waste my time confirming it doesn't say "We're worried that the Russians will get their hands on the bioweapons that we have in Ukraine?"

You told me yourself it wouldn't say that when you tried to backpeddle your bullshit right here.

 You're backpeddling on your backpeddle now?

Your we the sheeple moment was duly noted eyeball. There's no going back. 

You prefer not to know that the US and Ukraine operate bio-weapons research facilities in Ukraine so that you can carry on with your propaganda, but it's not even propaganda anymore. FYI propaganda is a mixture of half-truths, omissions and bullshit, you've just come out and stated that you no longer want to pretend to be interested in facts, you just want to tell the lies. 

[eyeball]

1 minute ago, West said:

The pass is widely known as Gesundheitspass or the Nazi Pass for short. Don't see how that's saying the National Socialist German Workers Party is in office. Just the Liberal Party

Comparing the Liberal Party to the Nazi Party is clinically retarded.

[West]

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Comparing the Liberal Party to the Nazi Party is clinically retarded.

Not really. Both implemented the Gesundheitspass and asked rhetorical questions like "should we tolerate these people?"

Edited March 18, 2022 by West

[WestCanMan]

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

No, I took you at your word that you corrected yourself by admitting it wouldn't say what you originally said which is

"We're worried that the Russians will get their hands on the bioweapons that we have in Ukraine?"

No US government spokesperson said this word for word they way you did.  

All I see is:

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

WE THE SHEEPLE!

You know that Ukraine has bioweapons. You know it for a fact. You've just decided to hide behind semantics somehow, and act like what I said wasn't 100% true. It was 100% true. 

Why don't you tell us what V Nuland said then. Tell me how her statement doesn't equate to "We have bioweapons in Ukraine". 

[WestCanMan]

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Comparing the Liberal Party to the Nazi Party is clinically retarded.

Pretending not to know that the US and Ukraine have bioweapons in Ukraine right now is clinically retarded. 

[WestCanMan]

1 minute ago, West said:

Not really. Both implemented the Gesundheitspass.

They both have the gesundheitspass, they both use it to ostracize people and hate monger against them, they seize bank accounts of political enemies, they use a squad of hand-picked cops to brutalize people who speak out against them, they have an unethical level of control over the media and use it as a tool for party propaganda, media that doesn't provide adequately favourable coverage of their leader is threatened, harassed and attacked by police, the leader of both parties has control over the judiciary....

t's a lot. 

[West]

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

They both have the gesundheitspass, they both use it to ostracize people and hate monger against them, they seize bank accounts of political enemies, they use a squad of hand-picked cops to brutalize people who speak out against them, they have an unethical level of control over the media and use it as a tool for party propaganda, media that doesn't provide adequately favourable coverage of their leader is threatened, harassed and attacked by police, the leader of both parties has control over the judiciary....

t's a lot. 

They are more similar than they are different I will give you that. 

[eyeball]

29 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

We just saw a poster decide not to look at direct evidence of bioweapons in Ukraine. IE, choose to just blindly obey known propaganda.

You said it was direct evidence of US bioweapons in Ukraine. "We're worried that the Russians will get their hands on the bioweapons that we have in Ukraine?"

If you don't remember saying that it could be a sign of mental illness.

[WestCanMan]

3 hours ago, blackbird said:

It seems there are a number of people on here who are severely mentally challenged and they have zero logic skills or knowledge of the real world and what is going on.  For example, the anti-Covid restriction people are a clear example of these kind of people. 

This is the first time in history that people have been forced to take a dangerous vaccine to protect them from a disease that's so mild that you need to be tested to find out if you have it. 

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They love to call the vaccine passport a Nazi health pass.   

It's a Nazi pass.

The PM himself hate mongers against people who don't have it, even though they don't need the jab, and the jab doesn't even work. People who don't get the pass are ostracized and forced out of society. They can't even work. In some instances they're denied medical treatments. 

It's a Nazi pass and anyone who doesn't understand that is severely deluded. 

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 Not sure how they reason this has anything at all to do with Nazis in Hitler's Germany.  Nobody is forced to get vaccinated or get a vaccine passport.  Nobody was forcing them to go to those restaurants. 

The Nazis used the gesundheitspass to further the notion that Jews were unclean, and not fot to mingle with German society.

People are getting forced to vax or they can't work, they can't travel, they can't participate in cultural events. You know all of this. You also know that jabbed people still get covid, they still spread covid, and they still die from covid - frequently. 

You have no justification for the mandate, but you're vaxed, so you feel like everyone else should be. That's not your choice. 

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They can buy groceries, eat at home, or go through a drive-through to take out food.   So it is ridiculous nonsense to equate the card with Nazis. 

The PM is hate mongering against them. They are being forced from their jobs.  So you are telling idiotic lies when you give a false list and pretend that's the extent of it. 

You are a liar blackbird, you have just been caught on serious lies. 

I can't believe that you were a cop. It's scary to think of a person like you walking around with a badge and a gun, inflicting your idiotic propaganda on people. 

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The kind of people who push this idea will never be normal, sane, rational people as far as I can tell.  

You just got busted for telling a whole slew of pathetic lies. Stop acting like other people are the problem. 

[eyeball]

17 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Why don't you tell us what V Nuland said then. Tell me how her statement doesn't equate to "We have bioweapons in Ukraine".

It's your responsibility to explain how her comments equate to what you said which is that "We're worried that the Russians will get their hands on the bioweapons that we have in Ukraine?".

I mean FFS, you even put quotation marks around your lie.

[WestCanMan]

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

You said it was direct evidence of US bioweapons in Ukraine. "We're worried that the Russians will get their hands on the bioweapons that we have in Ukraine?"

If you don't remember saying that it could be a sign of mental illness.

The US Gov't story was "There are no bio-weapons labs in Ukraine". Now we know that there are joint-US/Ukraine labs with lots of terrorist-level bioweapons in them in Ukraine. 

Call it what you want, Russia was 100% correct to say that there are bioweapon research facilities in Ukraine. It's not a question of who's right anymore. The US lied, 100%, and Russia was 100% correct. You just choose not to see it. This is your "WE THE SHEEPLE" moment. Embrace it. You're a devout supporter of your side's known propaganda and lies.  

It's not like we didn't know it before, you just hadn't openly admitted to it before now. 

[WestCanMan]

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

It's your responsibility to explain how her comments equate to what you said which is that "We're worried that the Russians will get their hands on the bioweapons that we have in Ukraine?".

I mean FFS, you even put quotation marks around your lie.

Everyone knows it but you, eyeball. The US stated emphatically that they didn't have bioweapons labs in Ukraine. That's been proven to be 100% false now. There is even information from their websites which openly admits that they were working with bioweapons at those labs. 

I don't have to force you to understand the information eyeball, that's not a realistic line in the sand. I can't make you understand that 2+2+4. All I can do is provide you with the information. 

You are 100% within your rights to have your "WE THE SHEEPLE" moment. 

[eyeball]

3 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

It's not like we didn't know it before, you just hadn't openly admitted to it before now. 

So why did you admit your link won't say We're worried that the Russians will get their hands on the bioweapons that we have in Ukraine?"

[WestCanMan]

Just now, eyeball said:

So why did you admit your link won't say We're worried that the Russians will get their hands on the bioweapons that we have in Ukraine?"

The US gov't was explicit and emphatic about making the point that there are no bioweapons labs in Ukraine. 

Victoria Nuland destroyed that false narrative. There are bioweapons research labs in Ukraine and the US funds them. They had that info on their own websites. 

Make of that what you will inside of your own mind, "WE THE SHEEPLE" can live on, uninterrupted. 

[eyeball]

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

I don't have to force you to understand the information eyeball, that's not a realistic line in the sand. I can't make you understand that 2+2+4. All I can do is provide you with the information.

2+2+4 does not equal We're worried that the Russians will get their hands on the bioweapons that we have in Ukraine"

[eyeball]

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

The US gov't was explicit and emphatic about making the point that there are no bioweapons labs in Ukraine. 

Victoria Nuland destroyed that false narrative. There are bioweapons research labs in Ukraine and the US funds them. They had that info on their own websites.

No this is just a whole bunch of crapola you're making up on the fly.

[Faramir]

4 hours ago, blackbird said:

It seems there are a number of people on here who are severely mentally challenged and they have zero logic skills or knowledge of the real world and what is going on.  For example, the anti-Covid restriction people are a clear example of these kind of people.  They love to call the vaccine passport a Nazi health pass.   This is a prime example of severe mental delusion.  I am not sure how anyone equates an identification card which is simply meant to prove one has had two shots of vaccination to help protect people in a restaurant from catching Covid with a Nazi ID card.  Not sure how they reason this has anything at all to do with Nazis in Hitler's Germany.  Nobody is forced to get vaccinated or get a vaccine passport.  Nobody was forcing them to go to those restaurants.  They can buy groceries, eat at home, or go through a drive-through to take out food.   So it is ridiculous nonsense to equate the card with Nazis.  The kind of people who push this idea will never be normal, sane, rational people as far as I can tell.  They are in need of serious counseling over a long period of time.  The Covid health measures were there to protect everyone's health and life.  These people who are obsessed with such nonsense and think the Nazis are in control need help.  We need to pray for them.  But it is no use trying to engage with them.  

ROFL.  Pray for us?  But not engage us?  Oh please. I'm just glad we are finally past the insanity of the reaction to COVID 19 that was clearly an over reaction.  I mean when God REALLY comes for us with a disease we will know it.  COVID managed to wipe out a whopping 1/20th of 1 percent of the world population.  Yes, I got the damn shots and the vaccine cards - just to function.  But I think we lost a lot in the process.

[WestCanMan]

Just now, eyeball said:

2+2+4 does not equal We're worried that the Russians will get their hands on the bioweapons that we have in Ukraine"

No, two different topics.

1) 2=2=4 to most people. Maybe not you. I don't know what CCCG has to say about that because I don't watch them.

2) "We're worried that the Russians will get their hands on the bioweapons that we have in Ukraine" isn't even a proper distinction but if it was it's without a difference.

"WE THE SHEEPLE" lives on.