Trucker's Convoy

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

The protest became illegal as soon as it was declared an occupation. Illegal blockade of streets, illegal occupation.

false declaration, in order to facilitate fascist circumvention of fundamental rights

[West]

6 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

No, as I said they broke the law before by being present in an illegal occupation. If I rob a bank then hide in farmer's field that doesn't immune me from arrest.

An illegal occupation now eh. 

[Dougie93]

Just now, West said:

An illegal occupation now eh. 

the fascists in Canada simply don't have the courage of their convictions

they advocate for classical fascism, the very definition of

they are already crushing people under their fascists jackboots

but they are incapable of calling it what it is, they are afraid to admit it, for whatever reason

 

[Goddess]

13 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

This is full-on Caucescu’s Romania.

I think this is why so many immigrants supported the protest.  I saw more than just a few interviews with protesters who came from countries like Poland, the Ukraine, Iran, Romania (one was a Romanian truck driver that was beaten by police)etc. who all said that what is happening in Canada is scaring the life outta them because they saw the same things happening in their old countries before things went really, really south.

[Nexii]

51 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

The truckers convoy is regrouping in rural areas surrounding Ottawa

https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/freedom-convoy-protesters-regroup-in-rural-communities-surrounding-ottawa-1.5791556

What I don't understand is WHY law enforcement under emergency act don't go there and arrest all of them for participating in an illegal protest and occupation of the Capital. If I break the law say rob a bank and run off and hide in a farm, I can still be arrested and charged, can't I?

Why not just go down there and shoot them all

[CITIZEN_2015]

1 minute ago, Nexii said:

Why not just go down there and shoot them all

Because they should be put on trial and if found guilty then charged according to the law. Because this is not an islamic republic or a military dictatorship to shot people for opposing the government.

[Dougie93]

2 minutes ago, Nexii said:

Why not just go down there and shoot them all

the government is clearly trying to provoke people into some sort of desperate action

so the government can then play the victim and unleash even harsher measures

again, classical fascism

but these Canadian politicians are out of their depth

they don't have the forces to manage what they are trying to provoke

thus it seems on trajectory to blow up in their faces exponentially beyond their control

widespread breakdown of civil order, bank runs, capital flight, economic collapse, etcetera

[Nexii]

Just now, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Because they should be put on trial and if found guilty then charged according to the law. Because this is not an islamic republic or a military dictatorship to shot people for opposing the government.

We're not doing trials before jailing people and freezing their bank accounts, seems like wasted effort

[Zeitgeist]

57 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

The truckers convoy is regrouping in rural areas surrounding Ottawa

https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/freedom-convoy-protesters-regroup-in-rural-communities-surrounding-ottawa-1.5791556

What I don't understand is WHY law enforcement under emergency act don't go there and arrest all of them for participating in an illegal protest and occupation of the Capital. If I break the law say rob a bank and run off and hide in a farm, I can still be arrested and charged, can't I?

Yes arresting protesters, including seeking them out and stripping away their basic rights including access to money and employment, happened all the time in the Holocaust.  

[QuebecOverCanada]

4 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Because they should be put on trial and if found guilty then charged according to the law. Because this is not an islamic republic or a military dictatorship to shot people for opposing the government.

Where do you draw a line?

[Goddess]

7 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

I highly doubt the courts can be trusted

they are packed with Liberal cronies

In watching the Senate hearings yesterday, it was disappointing to see so many of them repeating the same lies from the MSM.

[Dougie93]

like at this point when I call a Senator

I'm not saying;  hey, you have to support the truckers, nor anything like that

at this point,  I'm just saying the government is out of control

doesn't really matter what your political position is

this is on trajectory to catastrophe for everybody in the country

it's going to blow up in the government's face at some point

and they don't have the capacity to control what they are unleashing

they're not even acting in their own interests anymore, so this is madness

[Zeitgeist]

10 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Because they should be put on trial and if found guilty then charged according to the law. Because this is not an islamic republic or a military dictatorship to shot people for opposing the government.

You’re one scary person.  It’s also scary knowing there are many others with your oppressive views.  They’re in power now.  Hope you’re enjoying the crisis.  

[West]

17 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Because they should be put on trial and if found guilty then charged according to the law. Because this is not an islamic republic or a military dictatorship to shot people for opposing the government.

You'd never know it by how Trudeau handled himself

[CITIZEN_2015]

12 minutes ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

Where do you draw a line?

There is no line to draw. They participated in an illegal occupation and now they are parking in private property to regroup and repeat the illegal act again. They should be put on trial for participating in an illegal occupation and if found guilty based on the existing laws then sentenced and if not then freed. 

[Zeitgeist]

33 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

like at this point when I call a Senator

I'm not saying;  hey, you have to support the truckers, nor anything like that

at this point,  I'm just saying the government is out of control

doesn't really matter what your political position is

this is on trajectory to catastrophe for everybody in the country

it's going to blow up in the government's face at some point

and they don't have the capacity to control what they are unleashing

they're not even acting in their own interests anymore, so this is madness

But why is Trudeau persisting on this path?  He seems to think he can get away with being totally unaccountable, which makes me think he has unelected international forces backing him.  Klaus Schwab of the World Economic Forum said he penetrated more than half of our Cabinet.   It’s an insane gamble Trudeau seems willing to make if it means watching people starve or shoot themselves.  Putin seems to know what’s happening.  Biden even seems to know because he’s playing the demented elderly man.  Yesterday’s press conference on Ukraine was unbelievably incompetent.  The CNN political analyst who reported it yesterday called him Brandon, which is code for ______.   This is a serious existential crisis for Canadian democracy and perhaps democracy everywhere.  Fox is reporting it which is why Democrats are flocking to it.  In fact everyone is freaking out and flocking to the GOP because they’re the only ones calling out what’s happening.  

Edited February 23, 2022 by Zeitgeist

[West]

18 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Yes arresting protesters, including seeking them out and stripping away their basic rights including access to money and employment, happened all the time in the Holocaust.  

Prisoners are treated better than those on the outs. At least if you are a prisoner in this case you can eat. 

Non prisoners can't. Just have their banks locked up without due process, left to starve or freeze in the middle of winter. 

Trudeau's Canada 

Edited February 23, 2022 by West

[West]

4 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

There is no line to draw. They participated in an illegal occupation and now they are parking in private property to regroup and repeat the illegal act again. They should be put on trial for participating in an illegal occupation and if found guilty based on the existing laws then sentenced and if not then freed. 

Alleged illegal occupation*

[Goddess]

56 minutes ago, West said:

The accounts they are facing are "mischief" charges and "counsel to commit mischief". 

So basically what they are alleging is that the convoy organizers counseled people to obstruct property (either greater or less than $5000). 

The things working in the defense's favor:

1. They instructed their own ban on horns. 

2. They worked cooperatively with police to leave lanes open for emergency vehicles. Videos from the organizers were sent out advising truckers to cooperate with police if they were asked to clear lanes downtown. 

3. Two police chiefs resigned. 

4. Several police officers resigned after not being willing to follow unlawful orders. 

5. While the city ordered the malls closed, citing "safety concerns", others remained open. They are on camera stating they have made enough money from the protests to cover the next three months rent.

6. OPP provided a police escort for the convoy to the city of Ottawa. 

7. The Whatsapp account showing police expressing their desire for brutality  

8. Mounted police running over a lady in a walker and other videos of excessive force. 

9. They included a legal team very early on indicating they had no intention of breaking any laws.

Of course this is simply a show trial under the direction of a former Liberal Party candidate so who knows how it turns out? 

Yes, the city of Ottawa and the police were aware the convoy was coming - organizers communicated with and got permission to protest there.

I think what happened is that NO ONE - not the police, not the city -  expected the prime minister to slander and then completely ignore them.

[WestCanMan]

1 minute ago, Goddess said:

Yes, the city of Ottawa and the police were aware the convoy was coming - organizers communicated with and got permission to protest there.

I think what happened is that NO ONE - not the police, not the city -  expected the prime minister to slander and then completely ignore them.

Your post is too fact-laden. Leftists will ignore it.

[Zeitgeist]

6 minutes ago, West said:

Prisoners are treated better than those on the outs. At least if you are a prisoner in this case you can eat. 

Non prisoners can't. Just have their banks locked up without due process, left to starve or freeze in the middle of winter. 

Trudeau's Canada 

Right like the Uighers?  Arbeit macht frei right?   This is insane.  Deplatforming and stripping protesters of money, insurance, license, and ability to work.  It’s a concentration camp without a fence.  Punishing political opponents by making them political prisoners.  

Edited February 23, 2022 by Zeitgeist

[Goddess]

27 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Because this is not an islamic republic or a military dictatorship to shot people for opposing the government.

Not yet.

[West]

3 minutes ago, Goddess said:

 

I think what happened is that NO ONE - not the police, not the city -  expected the prime minister to slander and then completely ignore them.

That's because they haven't been paying attention. Trudeau has been a man child his whole life

[WestCanMan]

7 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

There is no line to draw. They participated in an illegal occupation and now they are parking in private property to regroup and repeat the illegal act again. They should be put on trial for participating in an illegal occupation and if found guilty based on the existing laws then sentenced and if not then freed. 

Blah blah blah.

Is that the only option?

Can't the leader of this country address some very basic concerns that every single Canadian shares?

FYI there are almost 2,000 dbl- and triple-vaxed deaths in Canada in the last two months. The vax isn't working well enough to be shoved down the throat of every Canadian.

If people like you would have thought for a second : "Maybe the current vaxes do need to be better. Maybe just shoving force vaxing everyone with garbage isn't the answer."

 

[eyeball]

19 hours ago, West said:

"Nazi nazi nazi, white Nationalist white Nationalist white nationalist". 

All I hear from you guys without a shred of evidence

That's the echo from you guys going baaaa!  It's coming from all directions.