Aristides Posted February 18, 2022 Report Share Posted February 18, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Been contributing around here a lot longer than you. Trying to silence those with an opposing view never works here...this forum is much better than that. Canadians have been traveling to the U.S. during the entire epidemic...vaxed or not. Then keep up. The US mandate was announced in October and went into effect one week after the Canadian mandate. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/us-vaccine-mandate-freight-drivers-coming-canada-may-exacerbate-auto-s-rcna12649 https://www.kpbs.org/news/local/2022/01/21/new-vaccine-requirements-at-us-borders-take-effect-jan-22 Edited February 18, 2022 by Aristides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted February 18, 2022 Report Share Posted February 18, 2022 I got through to the Speaker of the Senate's office I passed a detailed message as to our concerns transcribed word for word by his assistant 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted February 18, 2022 Report Share Posted February 18, 2022 Senator George J. Furey of Newfoundland Speaker of the Senate 613-992-4416 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted February 18, 2022 Report Share Posted February 18, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Some things are worth fighting for...have you never protested anything for fear of getting a "criminal record" ? And why are you so worried about them visiting the U.S. ? Seems kind of ironic to me. Stay safe...let others do the hard work of keeping liberty. They are not protesters and are not working for liberty. They have done nothing positive but have done much harm to thousands of people. They are not doing anything for me. They are nothing more than thugs and anarchists. Just costing me money for policing, government's time, legal costs, and everything else associated. Making our country poorer. They deserve punishment. Edited February 18, 2022 by blackbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted February 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2022 59 minutes ago, Jack9000 said: its completely optional. Is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted February 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2022 1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Some things are worth fighting for...have you never protested anything for fear of getting a "criminal record" ? And why are you so worried about them visiting the U.S. ? Seems kind of ironic to me. Stay safe...let others do the hard work of keeping liberty. When the state goes bonkers like this, an arrest is a badge of honor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted February 18, 2022 Report Share Posted February 18, 2022 1 minute ago, West said: When the state goes bonkers like this, an arrest is a badge of honor Those who wind up with criminal records because of this won't get into the US anyway. Vaccinated or not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted February 18, 2022 Report Share Posted February 18, 2022 the Speaker of the Senate's assistant confided in me she is getting calls, all day, non stop, phoning ringing off the hook that cant be people supporting the government the Upper Chamber can put a stop to all this, Trudeau won't get this passed into law Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted February 18, 2022 Report Share Posted February 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, Aristides said: Those who wind up with criminal records because of this won't get into the US anyway. Vaccinated or not. Americans do not consider protesting for freedom to be a crime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted February 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, Aristides said: Those who wind up with criminal records because of this won't get into the US anyway. Vaccinated or not. When a more reasonable government gets in they will be pardoned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack9000 Posted February 18, 2022 Report Share Posted February 18, 2022 1 minute ago, West said: When a more reasonable government gets in they will be pardoned. lol these people arn't going to get pardoned dude even if the conservatives got in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted February 18, 2022 Report Share Posted February 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, West said: When a more reasonable government gets in they will be pardoned. The US does not recognize Canadian pardons. You have to get a waiver from the US. Look it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted February 18, 2022 Report Share Posted February 18, 2022 12 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: Americans do not consider protesting for freedom to be a crime They aren't being charged with protesting. There is no such thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted February 18, 2022 Report Share Posted February 18, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Jack9000 said: lol these people arn't going to get pardoned dude even if the conservatives got in. they will sue the government and the funds to pay for the violation of their rights will be taken out of the budget of your beloved centrally planned boondoggles suck on that JackLayton9000 Edited February 18, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted February 18, 2022 Report Share Posted February 18, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Aristides said: They aren't being charged with protesting. There is no such thing. there is now and that is what they are being arrested for totally unlawful arrests that you support because you're a government toadie Edited February 18, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted February 18, 2022 Report Share Posted February 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said: there is now No there isn't. So far the charges are for mischief and counselling mischief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted February 18, 2022 Report Share Posted February 18, 2022 all these people who showed up at this protest are having their fundamental Charter rights violated by police obeying unlawful orders so even if they just showed up for this one event they are all in a position now to sue the taxpayer for damages 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted February 18, 2022 Report Share Posted February 18, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Aristides said: No there isn't. So far the charges are for mischief and counselling mischief. except they never committed that crime they were just arrested for protesting and the government will be paying out some rather large settlements for these fugazi arrests and violations of their charter rights chaching Edited February 18, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 18, 2022 Report Share Posted February 18, 2022 42 minutes ago, blackbird said: They are not protesters and are not working for liberty. They have done nothing positive but have done much harm to thousands of people. They are not doing anything for me. They are nothing more than thugs and anarchists. Just costing me money for policing, government's time, legal costs, and everything else associated. Making our country poorer. They deserve punishment. And yet, you expressed concern about their future opportunity to cross the border into the U.S., where protests and liberty are very much treasured (and protected). You are seemingly unconcerned about the harm your government(s) have done with Covid policies and mandates for nearly two years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted February 18, 2022 Report Share Posted February 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: And yet, you expressed concern about their future opportunity to cross the border into the U.S., where protests and liberty are very much treasured (and protected). You are seemingly unconcerned about the harm your government(s) have done with Covid policies and mandates for nearly two years. You can debate about Covid policies all you like, but those policies were implemented by a democratically-elected government and saved thousands of lives. Even if people disagreed with Covid policies, that gives them no right to break the laws with illegal blockades and occupations and inflict misery on thousands of other people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 18, 2022 Report Share Posted February 18, 2022 Just now, blackbird said: You can debate about Covid policies all you like, but those policies were implemented by a democratically-elected government and saved thousands of lives. Even if people disagreed with Covid policies, that gives them no right to break the laws with illegal blockades and occupations and inflict misery on thousands of other people. Doesn't matter....Canadians had the right to protest long before Covid, and many have done so for decades. And that includes civil disobedience. If they get arrested, so be it. Others will do the hard work to protect freedom and liberty while you stay safe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted February 18, 2022 Report Share Posted February 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, blackbird said: You can debate about Covid policies all you like, but those policies were implemented by a democratically-elected government and saved thousands of lives. Even if people disagreed with Covid policies, that gives them no right to break the laws with illegal blockades and occupations and inflict misery on thousands of other people. laws which violate their rights are unlawful whether a democratically-elected government passes them or not 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faramir Posted February 18, 2022 Report Share Posted February 18, 2022 No one was arrested for an actual crime. Police are picking and choosing based on facebook posts. But the RCMP is the toadey of the LPC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack9000 Posted February 18, 2022 Report Share Posted February 18, 2022 40 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: they will sue the government and the funds to pay for the violation of their rights will be taken out of the budget of your beloved centrally planned boondoggles suck on that JackLayton9000 they are gonna get nothing lol.. hope you don't cry when they don't get anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexii Posted February 18, 2022 Report Share Posted February 18, 2022 9 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Doesn't matter....Canadians had the right to protest long before Covid, and many have done so for decades. And that includes civil disobedience. If they get arrested, so be it. Others will do the hard work to protect freedom and liberty while you stay safe. I'd add that the Libs and NDP did not run on this sort of extreme mandate platform as well. Would have changed my vote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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