Trucker's Convoy

[Zeitgeist]

Canada tries to maintain the infrastructure of independence — a central bank, for example — but seldom acts independently.  We did stay largely out of the “coalition of the willing” in the second invasion of Iraq, but still ended up helping fight ISIS and we got somewhat mired in Afghanistan with the Americans.  To some extent, in for a penny, in for a pound.  Our Covid policies in part gave us a lower death rate than the US, but they also gave us less democracy.

The truth is that it’s the Republicans who are safeguarding democracy right now. Our Conservatives can barely follow them ideologically without public shaming because Canada has become a leftist country of socialist government overreach, woke identity politics, and green fanaticism.  Given the amount of foreign influence embraced by our Liberal Cabinet, we’re barely sovereign. 

Edited May 15, 2022 by Zeitgeist

[Dougie93]

2 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

 To some extent, in for a penny, in for a pound. 

as Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon said in the face of the Blitz

'The children won't go without me. I won't leave the King. And the King will never leave."

 

[Dougie93]

27 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Canada tries to maintain the infrastructure of independence — a central bank, for example —

Mexico has a central bank too

so does Venezuela

a central bank is a private banking cartel

it doesn't preclude the associated county becoming a Banana Republic Mafia State

the only thing standing between you & that is

"Whereas Canada is founded upon principles which recognize the Supremacy of God & the rule of law"

this is the central narrative, the founding of the modern British liberal state, in the face of Bourbonite autocracy

 

[Zeitgeist]

25 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Mexico has a central bank too

so does Venezuela

a central bank is a private banking cartel

it doesn't preclude the associated county becoming a Banana Republic Mafia State

the only thing standing between you & that is

"Whereas Canada is founded upon principles which recognize the Supremacy of God & the rule of law"

this is the central narrative, the founding of the modern British liberal state, in the face of Bourbonite autocracy

 

Well I basically agree, which is why I never liked France’s system.  The cultural and legal roots of our democracy are essential.  Post-National State is about forgetting history so the ideologues can replace it with their puritanical top-down vision.  Robespierre, Mao, Lenin, Pol Pot and many others have attempted this and it always results in dystopia.  

[Dougie93]

3 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Well I basically agree.

Loyalists of Upper Canada

Guardians of Confederation

like our great grandfathers before us

[myata]

3 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

The cultural and legal roots of our democracy are essential.

As are independent checks, balances, controls, transparency, accountability and responsibility with instruments and functions adequate to the current time and its challenges not long bygone times. Repeating mantras from long forgotten books of old won't do a bit to stand in for them or replace them today.

Edited May 15, 2022 by myata

[taxme]

23 hours ago, myata said:

OK you can get it and easily and nothing to do with "MSM". Only one question: who is invading who? Is it Ukraine in Russia or the other way around? Easy, no? And nothing to do with MSM, only eyes and brain.

This is a feud between Russia and Ukraine. Why do so many Canadians give a shit about what is going on over there. Do you know why? If so, what is it? Do you a stake in what is going on in the Ukraine? Well? 

The problem is that the MSM has butted their globalist brown noses into it, and have made Russia appear to be the bad guy here. So, maybe Putin is not such a great guy, but then again neither is Zelensky. Zelensky is just as corrupt as the MSM says Putin is. Our Canadian political leaders are just as corrupt here in Canada. That is what Canadians should be more concerned about, and not worry about what is going on in this feud between two countries. 

Most Canadians do not know anything about anything. The only time they seem to think that they know all is when the MSM tells them that they need to listen to what the MSM has to say, and then go along with what the MSM has to say without question.

Personally, I could careless as a Canadian as to what is going on in Ukraine. It's none of my Canadian f'n business. ?

 

Edited May 15, 2022 by taxme

[marcus]

24 minutes ago, taxme said:

This is a feud between Russia and Ukraine. Why do so many Canadians give a shit about what is going on over there. Do you know why? If so, what is it? Do you a stake in what is going on in the Ukraine? Well? 

I agree with a lot of this. I mean, if Canada wants to step in to help people who are being attacked, then there are so many other places around the world that we would need to be stepping in. Like to help the Yemenis being attacked by the Saudis, or the Palestinians losing more and land each day, and living in an open air prison because of Israel, or the the Rohingyas' persecution in the hands of the Myanmar, or the Uyghurs who are living in prison camps in China, and etc.

It's silly to pretend that this is a humanitarian move. The reality is that West's presence in the conflict is geopolitical.

Having said all of this, one thing that we should be concerned about is the sovereignty over our land in the north. Russia has been quite aggressive over that area.

Perhaps the West is using the opportunity in Ukraine to push Russia to spend on military and starve them through sanctions, so that they would lose power. It looks like Russia didn't expect this much resistence.  

Edited May 15, 2022 by marcus

[Zeitgeist]

4 hours ago, myata said:

As are independent checks, balances, controls, transparency, accountability and responsibility with instruments and functions adequate to the current time and its challenges not long bygone times. Repeating mantras from long forgotten books of old won't do a bit to stand in for them or replace them today.

Yes, but many of our current challenges are echoes of past struggles for freedom and prosperity.  

[myata]

15 hours ago, taxme said:

This is a feud between Russia and Ukraine.

No it's not a "feud". Please answer the question using proper, meaningful words: who is invading who? Who is in whose country?

I'm guessing you would be fine with a new (old) world order where anyone can go and rob anybody on any pretext or just a whim. Sure, a perfectly valid point of view, since the ages of apes and before. And good luck, as there's nothing left do discuss here like why what would be the point if one could just go and take what they like. Why would one need them, words at all?

Edited May 16, 2022 by myata

[myata]

12 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

Yes, but many of our current challenges are echoes of past struggles for freedom and prosperity.

And learning, or not, refusing to understand and learn the lessons of the past. An obvious one being that no authority should be left without independent checks, accountability and responsibility, for its acts and results, carried by itself and not out of another, bottomless pocket. Real, effective and functional not pretty on a piece of paper. That lesson just wouldn't sink in with us, no matter what, the number of war measures every few decades for trifle causes or no causes at all. Good luck to us. Nobody promised dinosaurs evolution.

[taxme]

On 5/15/2022 at 1:21 PM, marcus said:

I agree with a lot of this. I mean, if Canada wants to step in to help people who are being attacked, then there are so many other places around the world that we would need to be stepping in. Like to help the Yemenis being attacked by the Saudis, or the Palestinians losing more and land each day, and living in an open air prison because of Israel, or the the Rohingyas' persecution in the hands of the Myanmar, or the Uyghurs who are living in prison camps in China, and etc.

It's silly to pretend that this is a humanitarian move. The reality is that West's presence in the conflict is geopolitical.

Having said all of this, one thing that we should be concerned about is the sovereignty over our land in the north. Russia has been quite aggressive over that area.

Perhaps the West is using the opportunity in Ukraine to push Russia to spend on military and starve them through sanctions, so that they would lose power. It looks like Russia didn't expect this much resistence.  

The thing is that all of those countries you mentioned get a free pass from the globalist elite. They are not a threat to the globalist elite. But Putin is, and that is why Putin is being attacked because he does not go along with the globalist agenda. The globalist elite are massively involved in the corrupt regime of Zelensky. He is their puppet on a string toddler, and Putin is not.

There is way more going on in Ukraine then what the MSM, our dear political leaders, or the globalists will ever tell us. Ukraine is involved in experimental bio hazard labs, huge corruptions, and Joe BiDumb has ties and has nefarious things going on in Ukraine. 

If those globalists and the democratic party keeps trying to goad Russia into a possible nuclear war, they will get their nuclear war, and it will be you and me and thee out there that will pay the heavy price for that war. The globalists will be safely tuckered away in their bunkers in the ground while the rest of us burns. We have insane psychopaths now running the world, and if they do not get their way, it will be war. Just my opinion of course. ? 

[taxme]

11 hours ago, myata said:

No it's not a "feud". Please answer the question using proper, meaningful words: who is invading who? Who is in whose country?

I'm guessing you would be fine with a new (old) world order where anyone can go and rob anybody on any pretext or just a whim. Sure, a perfectly valid point of view, since the ages of apes and before. And good luck, as there's nothing left do discuss here like why what would be the point if one could just go and take what they like. Why would one need them, words at all?

I like to call it feud. That chosen word works well for me. I am pretty sure that Putin went into Ukraine because Putin must of had a good reason to do so. You nor I will never really know why he did. I have my own theory has to why he did. You seem to forget that America has been doing the same thing for decades now where they have gone into other countries and invaded their territories and have toppled legally elected governments. Hello. Are you awake yet? 

Even Canada has backed America in those efforts. So quit with the bullshit. Invading other countries has been the in thing for decades now. Hello? ? 

 

[WestCanMan]

On 5/15/2022 at 12:58 PM, taxme said:

This is a feud between Russia and Ukraine. Why do so many Canadians give a shit about what is going on over there.

 

On 5/15/2022 at 1:21 PM, marcus said:

I agree with a lot of this. I mean, if Canada wants to step in to help people who are being attacked, then there are so many other places around the world that we would need to be stepping in.

Exactly.

The war in Congo caused about 6M deaths and I never even heard about it until an NBA player brought it up. I don't even watch NBA. 

We get the daily briefing from Ukraine on our national news.

The glaring contrast seems a bit racist to me. 

 

Our western leaders really love the war in Ukraine, and they seem like they're itching to get involved, but I still have friends in the navy. Like me, they joined up thinking that they'd be defending our country, and we never pictured ourselves as the aggressors. I don't know anyone who signed up for that. 

[myata]

12 hours ago, taxme said:

You nor I will never really know why he did.

I will never know why some psycho did what they did. That doesn't explain or justify their criminal acts. But you try to by putting a convenient label and reassigning the responsibility. Our leaders have many problems but invading and blowing apart an independent democratic country is not one of them. If you are OK with the world where anyone who managed to get enough explosives could go and rob and kill anyone they feel like, this is an easy concept so just say it, don't hide behind words.

[Nationalist]

7 minutes ago, myata said:

I will never know why some psycho did what they did. That doesn't explain or justify their criminal acts. But you try to by putting a convenient label and reassigning the responsibility. Our leaders have many problems but invading and blowing apart an independent democratic country is not one of them. If you are OK with the world where anyone who managed to get enough explosives could go and rob and kill anyone they feel like, this is an easy concept so just say it, don't hide behind words.

Oh?

Already forgot "He's got 'em" have you?

[taxme]

19 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

 

Exactly.

The war in Congo caused about 6M deaths and I never even heard about it until an NBA player brought it up. I don't even watch NBA. 

We get the daily briefing from Ukraine on our national news.

The glaring contrast seems a bit racist to me. 

 

Our western leaders really love the war in Ukraine, and they seem like they're itching to get involved, but I still have friends in the navy. Like me, they joined up thinking that they'd be defending our country, and we never pictured ourselves as the aggressors. I don't know anyone who signed up for that. 

The last I heard was that Putin invaded Ukraine to destroy many dozen bio hazard labs that were experimenting with dangerous viruses, and as far as I heard, Putin has destroyed 30 of them already. Those labs were believed by Putin that those bio weapons being developed in Ukraine would be used one day against Russia and his citizen's. Putin said no way, Jose Globalists. There is still one huge lab left at some iron works building in Mariupol. Putin has not eliminated that lab yet because Zelensky went and flooded it with many Ukranian innocent citizen's, and Putin does not want to bomb and destroy or hurt any more Ukranians. Zelensky is using his own citizen's as cannon fodder. 

I guess that the elite globalists must be somewhat in a panic now, that they have lost so many dangerous to humanity bio weapons labs. I guess also that is why BiDumb is so anxious to be able to send 40 billion dollars in aid to help fight off the Russian military. Zelensky must be losing the war big time. Ha-ha-ha.    

Source: Stillness in the Storm website. 

 

[ExFlyer]

Sure tough for some to stay on the topic of Truckers Convoy LOL

[taxme]

7 hours ago, myata said:

I will never know why some psycho did what they did. That doesn't explain or justify their criminal acts. But you try to by putting a convenient label and reassigning the responsibility. Our leaders have many problems but invading and blowing apart an independent democratic country is not one of them. If you are OK with the world where anyone who managed to get enough explosives could go and rob and kill anyone they feel like, this is an easy concept so just say it, don't hide behind words.

I will tell you one more time as to why Putin may have invaded Ukraine, clueless. When you are only interested in knowing one side of the story, and not the other, than you know nothing at all. Looks like you alright. 

One side or the story that I just read was that Putin went into Ukraine to destroy many bioweapons labs that were producing dangerous bio weapon viruses that Putin believed would be used against Russia and his citizen's one day by the good old USA. I guess that is why BiDumb wants to send 40 billion dollars to Ukraine to save those few labs left and to try and keep the war going. I guess that this also shows that Zelensky must be losing the war with Russia. Aw too bad, so sad.    Source: Stillness in the Storm website. 

[Michael Hardner]

2 minutes ago, taxme said:

 

One side or the story that I just read ...

You are even behind the times on your conspiracy theories ... ?   

Do you get them via Canada Post or ?  

[taxme]

7 hours ago, myata said:

I will never know why some psycho did what they did. That doesn't explain or justify their criminal acts. But you try to by putting a convenient label and reassigning the responsibility. Our leaders have many problems but invading and blowing apart an independent democratic country is not one of them. If you are OK with the world where anyone who managed to get enough explosives could go and rob and kill anyone they feel like, this is an easy concept so just say it, don't hide behind words.

I just read on one of my sources for honest news is that Zelensky just signed into law banning all opposition political party's in Ukraine, and seizing their property. It's now a one man fascist dictatorship show in Ukraine today. Some so called democratic country, eh my boy?  

Source; Stillness in the Storm website. 

[myata]

8 minutes ago, taxme said:

I will tell you one more time as to why Putin may have invaded Ukraine, clueless.

How hard is it to get? How many times it need to be explained or repeated? The reasons, rationales of a psychotic criminal do not matter. The act speaks for itself, and judged on what it is. The act, the fact is all what matters. We know what someone is a criminal thug, murderous psycho because that is what they do, not some stories in their bizarre minds.

Edited May 17, 2022 by myata

[taxme]

2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

You are even behind the times on your conspiracy theories ... ?   

Do you get them via Canada Post or ?  

Well, it is for dam sure that I do not get any of my information from the sources that you get yours from. Your sources pretty much lie and spread bullshit constantly, and I am pretty sure that you are well aware of that alright. 

Try going to one of my sources, and read what they have to say, and be able to get the other side of the story, Mikey boy.

Here is their website; Stillness in the Strom. Try it, you will like it. ?

[myata]

1 minute ago, taxme said:

Well, it is for dam sure that I do not get any of my information from the sources

OMG this is such a classical psychopath's story. They know something that nobody does. And so (in their bizarre minds) it justifies somehow what they do to others and nobody else does. Have to work hard to come up with a better example. Has to be in the textbook.

[myata]

Even if, by an enormous stretch of imagination, a psycho knew something real; it still doesn't give them the right, any right to barge into someone home, break, kick and kill at will. That notion just doesn't exist anywhere but in an inflamed, bizarre mind. You can run a test on it.

Why didn't the maniac go to UN General Assembly to present his evidence and ask for action? Psycho knows. And no one else ever will.

Edited May 17, 2022 by myata