New Brunswick goes full nazi and wants to prevent unvax from buying groceries

[Nefarious Banana]

Most divisive thing facing our country  . . . . sad.

[Yzermandius19]

4 hours ago, Aristides said:

Bla Bla Bla. You don't care about rights, you just don't want any restrictions on your behaviour. I'm not interested in punishing anyone, you are the author of your own self inflicted misfortunes. You don't want to live an let live, you want to do whatever you want and let the rest of the world take responsibility.

nope

it's actually about rights with me

I'm live and let live

you're live and only let live when they do what you do

 

you want to do whatever you want

and then demand everyone else does the same

like your personal choice is the only choice people are allowed to make

I don't push my personal choices on others

especially via the government

that's all you

 

of course I don't want dumb restrictions put on people

but you clearly do

Edited December 10, 2021 by Yzermandius19

[myata]

As announced this morning, Ontario is scrapping plans to revoke vaccine passports in January. So much for "only temporary". In another alarming trend, with the numbers of non vaccinated dwindling to nil (Ontario: over 95% of adults with at least one dose) looks like the exsperts are searching for a new scapegoat for their manifest failure to ensure stable operation of public health system while the society lives normally. Some countries never had a lockdown in the sense we use here.

Yes, children. Hardly a morning passes without reports of new outbreaks in schools. How can we be sure that on this path propaganda wouldn't completely detach from the reality, full 1984-style? Can we? And what would prevent that?

[Goddess]

14 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

One of the key points to note in it is what Japan is doing. That’s not a country that takes covid lightly. At the beginning of the pandemic the Japanese people were mad after the government banned travel from Wuhan and only gave out two N95 masks per family - they didn’t think that the government is doing enough. Now they’re ditching the jab in favour of ivermectin? Really?

The covid climate is always changing as new information and studies figure things out, it's hard to keep up with what's going on sometimes - misinformation on both sides, really.

One thing I respect about Japan - they, like all countries, had to sign off on deaths and injuries in order to receive any vaccines.  They also had to sign the contract stating that they must still purchase any vaccines ordered, even if there is alternate treatments discovered.  Japan has basically told Big Pharma - whatever, we don't care if we lose money on the vaccines, the health and well-being of our people is more important.

I never lose sight of the fact that Big pharma is in this for the money - they always have been historically.  Now is no different.  The bias on the side of vaccines is extremely strong.  The fact that they fought to keep their data under wraps for 55 years - is telling.  They want us to "trust the science."  Ok, then show me the science.  Then they say, Nope. We won't reveal the science for 55 years.  Something is massively NOT RIGHT here.

I respect other countries who are more honest about vaccine injuries and deaths, too.  We are not honest about that here.  It's rare to see an article in MSM about a vaccine death or injury, but they are real, and not rare.  This goes to informed consent, IMO. (And also according to the Nuremburg Code.)  My gut tells me that when governments and Big Pharma are covering up and not acknowledging deaths and injuries, then there is no informed consent and it is an International human rights violation to force, coerce and manipulate an entire population to get jabbed with experimental vaccines.

 

[myata]

There's no explanation nor rational reasons for how transparency in determination of policies and communications with the public were handled in this matter. Short of conspiracies that I'm not going into until and unless there's some evidence, to me it means only that the authorities reached the state where they 1) incapable of explaining their processes and decisions to the public and 2) feel no need to. Just babytalk and massive propaganda should do for you, silly.

What will it do to confidence and trust some years down the road, when they could actually be needed? Everybody's guess.

[Aristides]

18 hours ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

Aristides is scared shitless of the virus. Or he cares so much.

In both cases, in a healthy society, we should tell him to f*** off.

I'd be willing to bet that I am much less afraid of death than you are.

[Yzermandius19]

3 minutes ago, Aristides said:

I'd be willing to bet that I am much less afraid of death than you are.

your overreaction to the threat posed by covid says otherwise

you ain't much of a gambler are you?

Edited December 10, 2021 by Yzermandius19

[Aristides]

16 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

your overreaction to the threat posed by covid says otherwise

you ain't much of a gambler are you?

Your over reaction to made up threats posed  a vaccine smacks of fear.

Well, you are a gambler but you pick really dumb stakes to back.

[Yzermandius19]

7 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Your over reaction to made up threats posed  a vaccine smacks of fear.

Well, you are a gambler but you pick really dumb stakes to back.

I got my first dose three weeks ago

I just think vax mandates are stupid, because they are

I ain't scared

of the vax or covid

I've had both

 

I have an eye for solid bets

I'm a proven long term winner

sports books ban me, on the regular 

because I win so much of their money

try again ha ha

Edited December 10, 2021 by Yzermandius19

[WestCanMan]

41 minutes ago, Aristides said:

I'd be willing to bet that I am much less afraid of death than you are.

I'd be willing to bet that I care much more for the lives of young people than you do. 

[Yzermandius19]

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

I'd be willing to bet that I care much more for the lives of young people than you do. 

what's the line?

[Aristides]

5 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I'd be willing to bet that I care much more for the lives of young people than you do. 

 

I doubt it. I have six grand kids who I would give my life for in a heartbeat.

[Goddess]

25 minutes ago, Aristides said:

 

I doubt it. I have six grand kids who I would give my life for in a heartbeat.

That's just normal.

He's talking about all children in general.

[Yzermandius19]

28 minutes ago, Aristides said:

I doubt it. I have six grand kids who I would give my life for in a heartbeat.

you want the government to mandate that they get vaccinated too?

Edited December 10, 2021 by Yzermandius19

[taxme]

20 hours ago, Army Guy said:

They are not living in fear, they are living with their choice, and if they can do that ,why does it bother you so much ? you know the odds of getting covid just like everyone else, not sure why this topic irks you so much...

The ones that I fear the most are people like Aristotle who seems to feel that if someone is not vaccinated they are a danger to society. The non vaccinated ones are supposed to be the main reason why this plandemic is still going on. Such nonsense indeed. We seem to be keep getting new covid variants every six months or so. How are the non vaccinated people causing that to happen? 

A recent Norwegian cruise ship full of fully vaccinated people on board ended up during the cruise with a covid outbreak. There were no non vaccinated people on board. So, how did that happen? 

This covid donkey manure nonsense needs to end now as there will never be an end to this scamdemic if the many peasants out there keeps allowing themselves to be placed in a state of constant panic and fear over nothing. We now have a new covid variant called Omipron, more like Omicon, and I am pretty sure that in five months time another covid variant will come along. Big pharma will make sure that will happen. And many sheeple people will still go along with the hoax game and get vaxed for that variant.

I say enough already. Stop giving big pharma any more of your hard earned money. Just say no the the booster. ?

 

[taxme]

1 hour ago, Yzermandius19 said:

I got my first dose three weeks ago

I just think vax mandates are stupid, because they are

I ain't scared

of the vax or covid

I've had both

 

I have an eye for solid bets

I'm a proven long term winner

sports books ban me, on the regular 

because I win so much of their money

try again ha ha

I am just curious as to why anyone would want to get vaxed anyway. From stories that I have been hearing lately is that even people who are fully vaccinated still get covid. So, what's the point of getting vaccinated? 

I like to play the horses and go to the casinos now and then to try and win some money. But for some strange reason I always seem to end up coming out of the casino with no money left in my wallet. It seems like if it were not for me losing all of my money at the casino the casino employees would not have a job. Should I feel happy or sad about that? 

If you have any tips on how to make money gambling, I sure would like you to donate some of your gambling and making money expertise. I have a lot of lost gambling money to try and get back. ?

[Goddess]

I wish that our government would include all the collateral damage being done in their risk evaluations.  I wish they were as concerned about the mental health of Canadians, as they claim to be concerned about our physical health.  All the restrictions, lockdowns, masking, loss of jobs, lack of human contact......

I read in the US that suicides amongst young people are up 31%.

As of today, I officially know 3 more young people who have decided they no longer wanted to live, than the number of people I know who have died of covid.  3  in one year.

Up to now, I've maybe known 3 in my whole lifetime.

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

what's the line?

Me -400

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Aristides said:

 

I doubt it. I have six grand kids who I would give my life for in a heartbeat.

If you love them then why wouldn't you research the vaccines and the covid stats for their age ranges instead of remaining completely ignorant and just belching out Trudeau's propaganda? 

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

I got my first dose three weeks ago

I just think vax mandates are stupid, because they are

I ain't scared

of the vax or covid

I've had both

If you already had covid and you aren't scared of it then why did you get the vax? 

I don't know or know of anyone who was sorely beset by covid but I know/know of a few people who have been seriously harmed by the vaccines.

[OftenWrong]

4 hours ago, myata said:

There's no explanation nor rational reasons for how transparency in determination of policies and communications with the public were handled in this matter. Short of conspiracies that I'm not going into

I know. Yet there is no rational explanation for the actions taken in relation to reported nature of the threat. Nothing makes sense. It is not health care these people are in the business of.

The only thing that does make sense, is the conspiracy. My conspiracy theory is they want to kill off the next generation before they are born.

That means system must retract,

reduce, limit, confine,

shut down health services,

physical and mental.

Shut down traditional gatherings,

separate families

and give the mentally unwell no quarter.

...

But hey. At least we're not killing people, as in a war.

 

[WestCanMan]

5 hours ago, myata said:

Yes, children. Hardly a morning passes without reports of new outbreaks in schools. How can we be sure that on this path propaganda wouldn't completely detach from the reality, full 1984-style? Can we? And what would prevent that?

It's fear porn.

 

Canadian Propaganda Network: "OMG ANOTHER BREAKOUT IN A SCHOOL!"

Non-stooge: "For every 'breakout' in a school there are, on average, 0.0000 deaths."

Canadian Propaganda Network: "That info is verboten. Our peons will never hear that from us."

[myata]

3 hours ago, taxme said:

The ones that I fear the most are people like Aristotle who seems to feel that if someone is not vaccinated they are a danger to society.

Except they didn't get that idea on their own. They were invited, enticed and gently but firmly pushed into these opinions. Interestingly, without strong evidence, or even against obvious facts.

Aiiii! scary non vaccinated, go get a test before coming within hundred yards of my place!

Hi))) our dear neighbor you work in a fully vaccinated office (play on a team etc) please do come in and bring all your friends here!

And that happens over and again with this kind of people. Someone somewhere may have some agenda; and so they are invited, encouraged and prompted. And very rarely they fail to heed and comply.

Edited December 10, 2021 by myata

[Goddess]

56 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

 

But hey. At least we're not killing people, as in a war.

 

Indeed.

FDA Advisory Meeting, Sept 17, 2021

Watch from the 4.20 mark

[myata]

45 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Canadian Propaganda Network: "OMG ANOTHER BREAKOUT IN A SCHOOL!"

One would have to be totally blind and brain dead at once to not see that from day 1 someone had to be help for blame for another failure of the system. Please add as needed:

- racist to restrict travel from China

- scary pesky travellers, aiiii! (except if ministers public CEO and such precious folk)

- scary antimaskers aiiii!! (all time high cases achieved with mask mandates in place)

- scary antivaxxers Aiii!!! (outbreaks in fully vaccinated places)

- scary children, Oi!! (what next?)

Maybe someone is always at fault when things go wrong in a great system. Or maybe, 1984 is addictive: once you found out that you can just say, anything and no questions asked and explanations needed, why would do anything different.

So which one? There's that old razor...