Did Trudeau Fail His Country On Covid-19

[WestCanMan]

12 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

The main goal is an overt appearance of "security system", yard signs, IR illuminators at night, etc. to send bad guys to a weaker target.   Plus it is fun to play with and see some of the crazy stuff that happens...day and night.   Helped my neighbour with her SUV theft years ago....now they have cameras too.   Very popular these days with cheap solutions and WiFi (Ring doorbell, Simpli-Safe, etc.).

Can relate this to Trudeau and Canada's perimeter too for staying on topic.   He waited too long to act, and that is not just my opinion, but the opinion of many Canadians I read with online comments.  

Trudeau just seems so...passive.

You just need a sign that says "I'm a proud supporter of the NRA and a gun owner, but my neighbour isn't -->". 

If your neighbour is anti-NRA it's a great sign. If your neighbour is like Dougie93, even better. I'm sure he'll appreciate the intruders. 

[Yzermandius19]

31 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Like I said earlier, you just don't see the seriousness of a lot of these issues.

That is what people with Trump Derangement Syndrome say to those who defend Trump on pretty much anything, and this is also what people with Trudeau Derangement Syndrome say to to those who defend Trudeau on pretty much anything. No defense of a politician they are deranged against is allowed, even if the critique made against them is flat out retarded, they still often lash out in those scenarios as well.

You are attempting to create a distinction without a difference. You thinking your hatred is more justified than the Trump Haters does not mean you are impartial and are judging Trudeau entirely objectively, anymore than it means the Trump Haters are being impartial and judging Trump entirely objectively. You behave towards Trudeau exactly the same way those with Trump Derangement Syndrome behave towards Trump.

You'll never admit to having Trudeau Derangement Syndrome, the same way those with Trump Derangement Syndrome will never admit to having it either. The partisan blindness prevents these folks from seeing their own faults, but they lash out when they see others displaying those same faults in defense of someone they don't like.

You stoop to their level, but it's okay when you do it, and not okay when they do it, distinction without a difference, cognitive dissonance is helluva drug.

Edited March 25, 2020 by Yzermandius19

[WestCanMan]

19 hours ago, taxme said:

It's time to call this for what it really is? A bloody big farce. There may be a flu virus roaming around out there but flu viruses have been around for centuries.

Key differences:

1) this flu is contagious while it's carriers are asymptomatic so it's contagious for a longer period of time, including a time when people are still out and about because they don't know they're sick, so it will definitely infect more people if it's not contained aggressively 2) a lot of younger, healthier people are getting extremely sick, and needing intensive care, 3) the period of care for these people is twice as long as for the normal flu.

The healthcare system will be overloaded if we don't act decisively, and then we'd be like Italy. The hospitals will have to leave people over xx years of age to die so that they can focus on people with a better chance at surviving.

Doctors don't want to have to make that choice, and you don't want to be the person who's desperate to get help for a loved one who has a lot of good years left in them but can't, because Canadians couldn't bite the bullet for a few weeks.

[WestCanMan]

5 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

That is what people with Trump Derangement Syndrome say to those who defend Trump on pretty much anything, and this is also what people with Trudeau Derangement Syndrome say to to those who defend Trudeau on pretty much anything. No defense of a politician they don't like is allowed, even if the critique made against them is flat out retarded, they still often lash out in those scenarios as well.

You are attempting to create a distinction without a difference.

I just explained to you the seriousness of some "distinctions" which don't appear to make a large "difference", and you obviously don't get it, so your phrase of the day is just a platitude now.

Your broad generalization combined with a serious accusation like "the critique made against them is flat out retarded" is completely worthless Yz.

Cite some specific examples or grow up. This is an adult site and you're bringing sandbox arguments now. 

[Yzermandius19]

6 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I just explained to you the seriousness of some "distinctions" which don't appear to make a large "difference", and you obviously don't get it, so your phrase of the day is just a platitude now.

Your broad generalization combined with a serious accusation like "the critique made against them is flat out retarded" is completely worthless Yz.

Cite some specific examples or grow up. This is an adult site and you're bringing sandbox arguments now. 

I will site some examples in the future, when you bring them up and me pointing them out will simply make you double down in your Trudeau Derangement, the same as when I point it out to those with Trump Derangement Syndrome, they simply double down on their Trump Derangement.

No argument, no matter how persuasive, will ever convince you otherwise, just as no argument, no matter how persuasive, will ever convince the Trump Haters otherwise. Y'all are too emotionally attached to your political position to let logic get in the way now, cognitive dissonance will simply take over to prevent y'all from seeing just how wrong you are.

Edited March 25, 2020 by Yzermandius19

[Argus]

21 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

My local Loblaws now closes at 8pm to help with Corona, it used to be 11pm.  Apparently they think concentrating more people in the store during fewer hours is going to help not spread the virus or something.

What they mean is it will help their profits by paying people for fewer hours.

Edited March 25, 2020 by Argus

[Argus]

26 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

That is what people with Trump Derangement Syndrome say to

Generally, those who use phrases like "Trump Derangement Syndome" would defend Trump even if he spit in their faces, rifled their wallets, kneed them in the balls, and pushed them down a flight of stairs.

"Hey, you can believe he had a good reason! He's playing three dee chess, man!"

They're like cult members, incapable of processing any information which goes against their image of their holy leader, dismissing it all as 'fake news'.

 

[Yzermandius19]

20 minutes ago, Argus said:

Generally, those who use phrases like "Trump Derangement Syndome" would defend Trump even if he spit in their faces

Some of them sure, but not everyone, most people around here who use the phrase do not use it like that, you just assume they do so you don't have to give their opinion's the consideration they deserve, which is a common symptom of Trump Derangement Syndrome, I might add. There are certainly far more posters around here with TDS than those who will defend Trump even if he spits in their faces, by several orders of magnitude.

Lots of folks with Trudeau Derangement Syndrome around here as well, WestCanMan is far from the only one.

Edited March 25, 2020 by Yzermandius19

[WestCanMan]

38 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

I will site some examples in the future, when you bring them up and me pointing them out will simply make you double down in your Trudeau Derangement, the same as when I point it out to those with Trump Derangement Syndrome, they simply double down on their Trump Derangement.

No argument, no matter how persuasive, will ever convince you otherwise, just as no argument, no matter how persuasive, will ever convince the Trump Haters otherwise. Y'all are too emotionally attached to your political position to let logic get in the way now, cognitive dissonance will simply take over to prevent y'all from seeing just how wrong you are.

Let's just be clear, you're only talking about showing examples of things that I say which you personally don't consider important (rightly or wrongly), and you're comparing me to people who are lying or propagating lies from a position of gross ignorance, who refuse to stop.

Do you think there's a direct comparison between those two things Yz? Are they even remotely similar? 

If your spouse lies to you about an extremely important fact, is that a big deal? If they tell you something that they think is important, but you think it isn't, is that equally bad? 

You're conflating two topics which are not the same, at all. 

[Yzermandius19]

4 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Let's just be clear, you're only talking about showing examples of things that I say which you personally don't consider important (rightly or wrongly), and you're comparing me to people who are lying or propagating lies from a position of gross ignorance, who refuse to stop.

You are doing the same thing. If you think they are doing it on purpose and don't actually believe their own bullshit, I would suggest to you that is actually an extremely small minority of those with Trump Derangement Syndrome. Most are just misguided, not intentionally malevolent, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Good intentions on your part doesn't stop you from paving the road to hell anymore than it stops those with Trump Derangement Syndrome from doing the same.

Edited March 25, 2020 by Yzermandius19

[WestCanMan]

30 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Lots of folks with Trudeau Derangement Syndrome around here as well, WestCanMan is far from the only one.

Don't try convict me with your false accusation Yz. You've yet to show a single shred of evidence. The burden of proof is on you and your only offering is "I'll point it out the next time I see it". Get a life.

 

[Yzermandius19]

2 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Don't try convict me with your false accusation Yz. You've yet to show a single shred of evidence. The burden of proof is on you and your only offering is "I'll point it out the next time I see it". Get a life.

You can't be objective when you pretend like Trudeau doesn't ever do anything beneficial, even unintentionally. Don't snow the snowman.

Edited March 25, 2020 by Yzermandius19

[WestCanMan]

1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said:

You are doing the same thing. If you think they are doing it on purpose and don't actually believe their own bullshit, I would suggest to you that is actually an extremely small minority of those with Trump Derangement Syndrome. Most are just misguided, not intentionally malevolent, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. 

When you provide proof that someone is saying something that is untrue and they admit to their mistake and stop, they don't fall into the Trump Derangement Syndrome category anymore.

People who won't accept proof that they are lying have TDS. Lying is an extremely big deal imo.

[Yzermandius19]

3 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

When you provide proof that someone is saying something that is untrue and they admit to their mistake and stop, they don't fall into the Trump Derangement Syndrome category anymore.

People who won't accept proof that they are lying have TDS. Lying is an extremely big deal imo.

Yes and when someone provides proof that what you are sating is untrue, and you don't admit to your mistake and stop, you have Derangement Syndrome. Whether you have that for Trump or Trudeau makes little difference. It's not just those deliberately lying who are Deranged, it is those who are unintentionally lying as well but can't see it because their hatred prevents them from doing so.

Edited March 25, 2020 by Yzermandius19

[Dougie93]

3 hours ago, Rue said:

Why do I like your posts. YER a nut bag..

The Royal Canadian Regiment Battleschool is life altering.  We were the Best Small Army in the World, because we were so f*ckin' keen

Never pass a fault.   The standards in the RCR : civilians would call it crazy

You don't even have to go to war, just being in the RCR can give you PTSD, it's that intense.

Troops in the army who are not RCR also call us crazy

The RCR will make you iron hard, or break you trying

You have no idea, I'm actually laid back, by RCR standards.

Edited March 25, 2020 by Dougie93

[Dougie93]

It's like my Company Sergeant Major in Charles Company 1st Battalion, MWO Dave Preeper

The guy was out of the movies, he was like a f*ckin superman.

You had no fear in the presence of Dave Preeper, other than fear of his wrath.

This is him here, he actually lives just up the road from me now

https://ca.linkedin.com/in/dave-preeper-7498648a

Still looks the same, hasn't aged a day, which is no surprise, since he was fitter than God himself

If I'm ever in real trouble, this is the guy I am going to call, and woe be to they who would want to f*ck with us then.

VRI -  Pro Patria

Edited March 25, 2020 by Dougie93

[WestCanMan]

50 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Yes and when someone provides proof that what you are sating is untrue, and you don't admit to your mistake and stop, you have Derangement Syndrome. Whether you have that for Trump or Trudeau makes little difference. It's not just those deliberately lying who are Deranged, it is those who are unintentionally lying as well but can't see it because their hatred prevents them from doing so.

Again, you're lying and I don't appreciate it.

[Yzermandius19]

16 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Again, you're lying and I don't appreciate it.

I don't care whether you appreciate it or not, I'm calling a spade a spade, and I don't care whether the spade is butthurt about that.

[Charles Anthony]

Folks,  

Do not derail the discussion. 

[taxme]

18 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

A million to Greece is shocking. He usually gives all of our money to muslim countries. But $1M is no big D.

With this spend crazy prime mistake of ours that we are all stuck with now for another four more wonderful years it will be a million here, 5 million there, and 20 million somewhere else with that guy and you think that is A okay? A million bucks is a big deal to me. It's my dam tax dollars too that the fool is blowing. If it were just your tax dollars I would not give a dam. But I can see now that there are not too many members here that have a problem with this guy blowing billions of their tax dollars on other countries. It is plain to see why Canada is almost bankrupt. People like yourself could careless about where or how your tax dollars are being wasted. Pretty dam sad. 

[taxme]

16 hours ago, Army Guy said:

This thing is just getting started, wait for it, in coming weeks it is only going to get worse.... one of the reasons it is going to get worse is people like you with the attitude that this is all some game...., these precautions are not only for your safety but others as well , like your family, friends anyone you come into contact with, or ones that are forced to come into contact with you once your sick.....like doctors, hospital staff , EMT, etc  etc.... one person can effect hundreds... As time goes on your not going to have a chioce, to follow new directives.... and all government agencies will start cracking the whip, taking away more of your civil liberties...because their is always one in the crowd....that ruins it for everyone else...

Okay scaredy cat. The game plan is to do just that? Take away more of your freedoms. This is all just a test run to see how much people will take before they say that they have had enough and all of a sudden found a cure. And do you really think that people are going to stay confined to their homes for maybe a month or more and start to get antsy when they are feeling okay?

Hell no, they will decide that they have had enough of this pandemic nonsense and start going outside again, despite the fines or jail that they may have to look forward too. I wonder what all dog owners are going to do if they cannot take their dogs outside for a leak and a dump? I live in an area where there must be at least well over a 100 dogs living in the neighborhood. It is people like yourself with your paranoid problem that is causing all of this pandemonium over some flu. it's supposed to be a flu bug, not the plague. When a million people start to die from this so called virus then maybe it can be taken serious. But right now, I am not going to let some flu bug keep me home and from socializing. I am not a lemming. 

I was in a liquor store yesterday, and I did not see this red tape on the floor that was there to apparently keep me six feet away from the guy in front of me. When I crossed the red line the clerk pretty much went bonkers and yelling at me and told me to get back behind the red line. Some idiots are taking this so serious that they will go crazy on someone if they break the social distance order in council rule. Needless to say a war broke out between me and the dumb brainwashed broad. I will say no more about it. 

Well, the media every day keep reporting that more and more people are getting this so called deadly virus. This will start to give our now dictator politicians to demand more from us like stay home and do not go out at all. That is the end game in the end. So whether I do not follow the rules or not, the game plan is to ground us all.  Follow the rules or not. There are just too many in the crowd that are taking this all too serious.

But hey, Trudeau has done a lot more than just this in his failing of the country of pretty much everything that he says or does. Maybe Trudeau really knows that this China virus is all just bull chit? Hey you never know? think about it? 

Edited March 25, 2020 by taxme

[betsy]

16 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

 

Some idiot mom was escorting her son door-to-door trying to sell candy bars for fundraising in the middle of a pandemic.  

Oh my goodness!   Unbelievable!

She's lucky they weren't greeted with a deluge of disinfectant sprays! 

[taxme]

3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Key differences:

1) this flu is contagious while it's carriers are asymptomatic so it's contagious for a longer period of time, including a time when people are still out and about because they don't know they're sick, so it will definitely infect more people if it's not contained aggressively 2) a lot of younger, healthier people are getting extremely sick, and needing intensive care, 3) the period of care for these people is twice as long as for the normal flu.

The healthcare system will be overloaded if we don't act decisively, and then we'd be like Italy. The hospitals will have to leave people over xx years of age to die so that they can focus on people with a better chance at surviving.

Doctors don't want to have to make that choice, and you don't want to be the person who's desperate to get help for a loved one who has a lot of good years left in them but can't, because Canadians couldn't bite the bullet for a few weeks.

Look-look. The sky is falling down. 

Edited March 25, 2020 by taxme

[Rue]

15 minutes ago, taxme said:

Okay scaredy cat. The game plan is to do just that? Take away more of your freedoms. This is all just a test run to see how much people will take before they say that they have had enough and all of a sudden found a cure. And do you really think that people are going to stay confined to their homes for maybe a month or more and start to get antsy when they are feeling okay?

Hell no, they will decide that they have had enough of this pandemic nonsense and start going outside again, despite the fines or jail that they may have to look forward too. I wonder what all dog owners are going to do if they cannot take their dogs outside for a leak and a dump? I live in an area where there must be at least well over a 100 dogs living in the neighborhood. It is people like yourself with your paranoid problem that is causing all of this pandemonium over some flu. it's supposed to be a flu bug, not the plague. When a million people start to die from this so called virus then maybe it can be taken serious. But right now, I am not going to let some flu bug keep me home and from socializing. I am not a lemming. 

I was in a liquor store yesterday, and I did not see this red tape on the floor that was there to apparently keep me six feet away from the guy in front of me. When I crossed the red line the clerk pretty much went bonkers and yelling at me and told me to get back behind the red line. Some idiots are taking this so serious that they will go crazy on someone if they break the social distance order in council rule. Needless to say a war broke out between me and the dumb brainwashed broad. I will say no more about it. 

Well, the media every day keep reporting that more and more people are getting this so called deadly virus. This will start to give our now dictator politicians to demand more from us like stay home and do not go out at all. That is the end game in the end. So whether I do not follow the rules or not, the game plan is to ground us all.  Follow the rules or not. There are just too many in the crowd that are taking this all too serious. But hey.

You sound lonely. I thought you guys would still be meeting in someone's garage. Well you already had masks.

Edited March 25, 2020 by Rue

[taxme]

5 minutes ago, Rue said:

You sound lonely. I thought you guys would still be meeting in someone's garage. 

Your NDS is showing again. You will be happy to hear that we are getting together and are practicing social distancing from each other. Aren't you just so proud of us? 

Edited March 25, 2020 by taxme