The Coronavirus

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Also please note where I can find daily state figures broken down into cases, testing, deaths and hospitalizations like seen here. 

https://www.ontario.ca/page/how-ontario-is-responding-covid-19

Google has been no help. 

Edited June 26, 2020 by Boges

[bush_cheney2004]

Just now, Boges said:

You could always claim any regulations could cause economic damage. 

Millions of sick people also hurts the economy though. People will continue to contribute to the economy when they feel safe. How can you feel safe with numbers like that?

 

This is not regulation...this is intervention by executive order without limits.    More people will be harmed by the unlimited interventions.    Example: cancer deaths are expected to rise because of deferred testing and treatment.

 

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I have no problem with that. But comparing a 1,500 case outbreak in Germany to the some 30,000 plus cases seen daily in the US is not proper context. 

 

European press is still reporting it as such, but you didn't even bother to find out.

The U.S. has a much larger population than Germany.

[bush_cheney2004]

1 minute ago, Boges said:

Also please note where I can find daily state figures broken down into cases, testing, deaths and hospitalizations like seen here. 

https://www.ontario.ca/page/how-ontario-is-responding-covid-19

Google has been no help. 

 

New York has been doing it for months....down to zip code.

[Boges]

Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:

New York has been doing it for months....down to zip code.

Cite? 

What about the states that are seeing spikes now? 

[Boges]

1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

This is not regulation...this is intervention by executive order without limits.    More people will be harmed by the unlimited interventions.    Example: cancer deaths are expected to rise because of deferred testing and treatment.

Do you such shutdowns will be challenged in court? 

I completely concede Covid collateral. But those numbers haven't been demonstrated yet. 

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European press is still reporting it as such, but you didn't even bother to find out.

The U.S. has a much larger population than Germany.

 

If you're highlighting a US focused narrative, guilty as charged. You don't need to keep pointing out the obvious. Unless it makes you feel better. It's not going to stop. 

Though when Italy and Spain were the hot spots, that was notable as well. 

[bush_cheney2004]

4 minutes ago, Boges said:

Cite?

 

Cite !    No problem....Ontario criticized (CBC News)...late May:

 

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Ontario needs to be more transparent with COVID-19 data, critics say

Three months into the COVID-19 crisis, one of Canada's hardest-hit provinces is still unable to share some basic details about the spread of the disease, including the number of tests being performed per region, statistics on the success of contact tracing, the availability of personal protective equipment (PPE) or the location of outbreak "hot spots."

...New York City, perhaps the hardest-hit spot in the worldwide pandemic, has a municipal website that tracks everything from hot spots to local testing levels to the distribution of PPE and free meals.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/ontario-covid-19-transparency-1.5587459

 

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2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Cite !    No problem....Ontario criticized (CBC News)...late May:

No, Cite where any US state publishes detailed Hospitalization, Death and Total case figures down to the Zip Code. 

[bush_cheney2004]

4 minutes ago, Boges said:

Do you such shutdowns will be challenged in court? 

I completely concede Covid collateral. But those numbers haven't been demonstrated yet.

 

State legislatures are pushing back against governors already...not waiting for the courts.

Numbers will always lag reality on the ground.

 

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If you're highlighting a US focused narrative, guilty as charged. You don't need to keep pointing out the obvious. Unless it makes you feel better. It's not going to stop. 

Though when Italy and Spain were the hot spots, that was notable as well. 

 

I know....and neither will I stop.   That's what makes this game so much fun.

No America...no fun...Canada is way too boring for that....hence so much attention devoted to 'murica !

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1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

No America...no fun...Canada is way too boring for that....hence so much attention devoted to 'murica !

Yes. Low Covid-19 numbers are very boring. 

[Shady]

13 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

This is not regulation...this is intervention by executive order without limits.    More people will be harmed by the unlimited interventions.    Example: cancer deaths are expected to rise because of deferred testing and treatment.

 

 

European press is still reporting it as such, but you didn't even bother to find out.

The U.S. has a much larger population than Germany.

Exactly.  Also, drug related deaths have skyrocketed, so has alcohol and suicides.

[bush_cheney2004]

1 minute ago, Boges said:

No, Cite where any US state publishes detailed Hospitalization, Death and Total case figures down to the Zip Code. 

 

I already did...the New York link is in the "cited" CBC story.    It was so good your own state owned media (CBC) pointed to it as an example of how things should be done compared to data starved Ontario.

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Just now, Shady said:

Exactly.  Also, drug related deaths have skyrocketed, so has alcohol and suicides.

Cite.

You'd also have to prove that those deaths wouldn't have happened anyway. 

Here's a study that indicates loneliness hasn't increased. 

https://www.minnpost.com/second-opinion/2020/06/loneliness-has-not-increased-during-coronavirus-pandemic-study-suggests/

[Boges]

2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

I already did...the New York link is in the "cited" CBC story.    It was so good your own state owned media (CBC) pointed to it as an example of how things should be done compared to data starved Ontario.

Slow Clap for New York. Those are very good. 

Can you demonstrate that similar reporting is universal? 

[bush_cheney2004]

7 minutes ago, Boges said:

Slow Clap for New York. Those are very good. 

Can you demonstrate that similar reporting is universal? 

 

Of course not...obviously Ontario wasn't doing it, nor are many other provinces, states, or nations.

Sorry if New York and other states upset your "'muricans are morons" narrative.

Edited June 26, 2020 by bush_cheney2004

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8 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Of course not...obviously Ontario wasn't doing it, nor are many other provinces, states, or nations.

Sorry if New York and other states upset your "'muricans are morons" narrative.

You're the one that brought up a lack of reporting, not me. 

Many Ontarians have been using https://www.ontario.ca/page/how-ontario-is-responding-covid-19 as a valuable resource. 

There's a sentiment that breaking down which areas are hotspots stigmatize those communities. But as communities started to re-open, that was unavoidable. 

[bush_cheney2004]

1 minute ago, Boges said:

You're the one that brought up a lack of reporting, not me. 

...There's a sentiment that breaking down which areas are hotspots stigmatize those communities. But as communities started to re-open, that was unavoidable. 

 

Ontario can do whatever the hell it wants to...doesn't matter to me.   It was Canada's government owned media (CBC) that pointed out the crappy data collection and reporting, and highlighted New York as a far better example.

 

 

[bush_cheney2004]

Canada is not reporting all COVID-19 deaths....

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Canada only records lab-confirmed cases nationally

Canada does not record probable COVID-19 cases and deaths across the country despite international guidelines to do so, and experts say we may never know how many cases have been missed.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/canada-covid-cases-1.5620080

 

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9 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Ontario can do whatever the hell it wants to...doesn't matter to me.   It was Canada's government owned media (CBC) that pointed out the crappy data collection and reporting, and highlighted New York as a far better example.

Let's be honest. The CBC doesn't much like Doug Ford. 

[Boges]

8 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Canada is not reporting all COVID-19 deaths....

I suspect a lot of places are doing this. 

How often is a Pneumonia death a COVID death? 

https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2020/05/29/theres-a-new-theory-about-florida-coronavirus-and-pneumonia-deaths-read-this-first/

[Boges]

Look at all the economic damage DeSantis is allowing now! #sad

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/florida-bans-drinking-at-bars-as-daily-coronavirus-cases-approach-9-000-1.5001339

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FORT LAUDERDALE, FLA. -- Florida bans alcohol consumption at its bars as confirmed daily coronavirus cases approach 9,000.

 

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Military confirms 40 per cent of COVID-positive troops deployed to long-term care homes were asymptomatic.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/coronavirus-pandemic-military-long-term-care-quebec-1.5629067

As CBC News reported earlier this month, the military itself had been testing only those troops deployed to long-term care homes who displayed symptoms of the virus. Asymptomatic military members were not proactively tested — except in cases where the long-term care homes themselves provided the screening.

Is it that the life of seniors who made so much sacrifices for Canada does not matter to people? The word Travesty even does not go far enough to describe this

 

Edited June 26, 2020 by CITIZEN_2015

[taxme]

On 6/25/2020 at 5:15 PM, SpankyMcFarland said:

Comrade, I’m going to say a Socialist prayer for you tonight. 

The comrades are the ones that are pushing this hoax around.  But you are either to much of a leftist liberal or a socialist/communist to want to see or admit it. I will not be saying a conservative prayer for you at all because I know that would be a total waste of time. Carry on, comrade. 

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On 6/25/2020 at 11:39 PM, eyeball said:

What if there is a vaccine and treatments that come sooner rather than later?  It's simply too soon to rule out the relevancy of lock-downs especially given the 18 months most experts seem to have suggested it will take to develop a vaccine.  We're only 4 months into this. 

It's certainly an option alright and more so when experts say its safe to do so.  Who is saying otherwise?  

By the looks of things, our dear comrade leaders want to keep things just the way they are. They enjoy f'n with our daily lives. They have become a bunch of fascists dyktators. We have all lost our past old normal lives and have been forced to accept a new normal life. Just wait until the fall gets here. We ain't seen nuttin yet, pardner.  Enjoy the freedom that you have today because tomorrow it could be all gone. I hope that I am wrong. 

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On 6/26/2020 at 10:02 AM, Boges said:

Look at all the economic damage DeSantis is allowing now! #sad

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/florida-bans-drinking-at-bars-as-daily-coronavirus-cases-approach-9-000-1.5001339

 

Just more deep state globalist fake bull chit. This virus is here to stay, and will never be allowed to go away. The plandemic exercise hoax must be kept alive and well. Your old normal life is gone now. Social distancing, masks, and no more getting together by the thousands big events are here to stay. Just wait until the fall gets here. You ain't seen nuttin yet, pardner. 

[taxme]

On 6/25/2020 at 7:09 PM, OftenWrong said:

If we understand and deal with the Coronavirus just like a bad flu, a lot of the fear will go away and so will the virus.

Then the magical prophecy of a wise man of auld will come true,
"The only way to really get rid of the Coronavirus is to stop looking at it."
- A. J. OftenWrong

All the deep state globalists, our dear comrade leaders, the lying media, and those so called health experts are all working together to continue to try and take more of our freedoms away from us all, and make plenty of money from it on the side. I have dealt with this virus myself. I don't give a shit about it because I know that this is all just a false flag pile of bull. Those mentioned above know that it is all just a bunch of horse manure. Sadly, they have been able to convince most of the majority of Canadians to believe their lie. Event 201 pretty much explains it all. But it would appear as though most Canadians are not all that interested in hearing about. it. Typical.