eyeball Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Nefarious Banana said: Trudeau's named in the title of this thread . . . . Are you taking 'deflection instruction' from Michael Hardner? So sorry, will Conservative voters go after Sheer to make the arrest and prosecution of Trudeau the main plank of his election platform this fall? If not, why? Edited August 17, 2019 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 6 hours ago, GostHacked said: Again this is partisan hackery thinking. I've complained more about Trudeau than Harper regarding SNC-Lavalin. Go here to understand that. I'm in the thread on page one and you come in on page 2. I could not find any specific example in the 41 page thread were you explicitly complain about Trudeau. Rather, what I do see is that when it involves Trudeau, his supporters revert to the "let's not be a bunch of partisan hacks" stance, that after all, all governments are corrupt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 Speaking of partisan hacks...they'll never actually push Sheer to properly investigate or prosecute Trudeau because they know any future PM's and governments of theirs would be open to the same treatment but even more importantly exposing Trudeau and his government to the legal spotlight it deserves might also reveal the crooked little avenues and back-channels Conservatives also like and need to use on occasion. Partisans parked on this shit-stained fence are even more responsible than the politicians they elect for the corruption that persists in our governance year after year after decade after decade. 1 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 57 minutes ago, eyeball said: Speaking of partisan hacks...they'll never actually push Sheer to properly investigate or prosecute Trudeau because they know any future PM's and governments of theirs would be open to the same treatment but even more importantly exposing Trudeau and his government to the legal spotlight it deserves might also reveal the crooked little avenues and back-channels Conservatives also like and need to use on occasion. Partisans parked on this shit-stained fence are even more responsible than the politicians they elect for the corruption that persists in our governance year after year after decade after decade. It's a de facto one party state, the Cons are just the Nanny Prohibitionist wing of the Canadian racist apartheid police state, they are interchangeable with the Liberals, may their children go blind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 2 hours ago, eyeball said: Speaking of partisan hacks...they'll never actually push Sheer to properly investigate or prosecute Trudeau because they know any future PM's and governments of theirs would be open to the same treatment but even more importantly exposing Trudeau and his government to the legal spotlight it deserves might also reveal the crooked little avenues and back-channels Conservatives also like and need to use on occasion. Partisans parked on this shit-stained fence are even more responsible than the politicians they elect for the corruption that persists in our governance year after year after decade after decade. Complete nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, Shady said: Complete nonsense. How do you explain corruption's longevity then? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 41 minutes ago, eyeball said: How do you explain corruption's longevity then? It's profitable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, bcsapper said: It's profitable? Well duh, but that only explains why it exists in the first place. How does that profitability benefit voters? Edited August 18, 2019 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 Just now, eyeball said: Well duh, but that only explains why it exists in the first place. I don't know about that. If it ever lost people money, I can see it becoming less fashionable. Of course, it does occasionally get people killed, so who knows, really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, bcsapper said: I don't know about that. Well I don't what else you could possibly need to to know about it. It's for gain, personal, corporate, political. Gain, advantage, profit, call it what you will its the why alright. But as you can see that's not what I really asked. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 15 minutes ago, bcsapper said: It's profitable? True. It’s also part of human nature unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, eyeball said: Well I don't what else you could possibly need to to know about it. It's for gain, personal, corporate, political. Gain, advantage, profit, call it what you will its the why alright. But as you can see that's not what I really asked. No, I meant that also explains its longevity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 Just now, bcsapper said: No, I meant that also explains its longevity. Corruption of the type under question in this thread? How do voters profit from that? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, eyeball said: Corruption of the type under question in this thread? How do voters profit from that? I haven't been reading the thread, sorry. I just saw your question, and I wanted to help you out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, bcsapper said: I haven't been reading the thread, sorry. I just saw your question, and I wanted to help you out. Well you've probably done more to help Sheer and Trudeau out. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: Well you've probably done more to help Sheer and Trudeau out. Well, unless they pay me it's not corruption. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 4 hours ago, eyeball said: Partisans parked on this shit-stained fence are even more responsible than the politicians they elect for the corruption that persists in our governance year after year after decade after decade. And yet here you are, still playing along as well. All your life you've supported and paid them with your taxes, and cast your ballot in their elections. Somehow it seems even more incorrigible when you have people who claim they know about the problem, but keep supporting it anyway. Those people are the worst scum there is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 In Canada, most corruption emanates from the Confederation itself, it's mostly just bribing entrenched interests and getting everybody else to go along with that, in the name of keeping Quebec from seceding, followed by the rest unraveling after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 9 hours ago, OftenWrong said: And yet here you are, still playing along as well. All your life you've supported and paid them with your taxes, and cast your ballot in their elections. Somehow it seems even more incorrigible when you have people who claim they know about the problem, but keep supporting it anyway. Those people are the worst scum there is. You don't pay your taxes? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 1 hour ago, eyeball said: You don't pay your taxes? Exactly, Canadians have no choice. Trust that I have explained it well enough for you... You're welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 12 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: Exactly, Canadians have no choice. Trust that I have explained it well enough for you... Only that you regard yourself as being no better than scum and probably better than anyone who doesn't. The true mark of a toadying sycophant. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 12 hours ago, Shady said: True. It’s also part of human nature unfortunately. Profits? Well now let's see .... Ottawa's LRT is 1.5 B over budget and 1.5 years late ............ All while SNC has been reporting record losses this year in profits ( in the billions) SNC-Lavalin failed to meet the technical score TWICE, yet phase 2 was given to them. Still the LRT is not ready. Now with government level widespread corruption we have... Local government corruption - Jim Watson Provincial government corruption Ontario - Doug Ford , Cathleen Wynne. ( I am sure we can the same corruption findings in other provinces Quote Google : Webster Griffin Tarpley, Gerald Celente, Max Keiser ohm on soundcloud.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 59 minutes ago, GostHacked said: Profits? Well now let's see .... Ottawa's LRT is 1.5 B over budget and 1.5 years late ............ All while SNC has been reporting record losses this year in profits ( in the billions) SNC-Lavalin failed to meet the technical score TWICE, yet phase 2 was given to them. Still the LRT is not ready. Now with government level widespread corruption we have... Local government corruption - Jim Watson Provincial government corruption Ontario - Doug Ford , Cathleen Wynne. ( I am sure we can the same corruption findings in other provinces Yep. Which is weird that you’ve turned from libertarian to wanting the government in control of everything. #Socialism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxme Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 On 8/14/2019 at 11:14 AM, scribblet said: What will he say...blame D⁸oug Ford The conservatives made him do it. They told me that it would be okay to lie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Guy Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 On 8/17/2019 at 1:43 PM, dialamah said: Someone was wondering about a 10-year-ban for companies convicted of corruption, saying they couldn't find any information. I found some information and posted it, along with the information that it wasn't all about JT "not following the law". Despite the desperation of partisans (of any stripe) to want to pretend that their own side has never done anything wrong, incoming governments are affected by what previous governments have done, at least for the first year or so. I intend to, though I'm not voting for Scheer or Bernier. That leaves me May, Singh or Trudeau. I'd be fine with a minority gov, either Conservatives or Liberals, this time around, Liberals need some humility and I don't want Conservatives to have unfettered power - history does suggest there are advantages to minority governments. If only Michael Chong had been elected leader of Conservatives; I very likely have voted for him last time and potentially this time. I'm not sure you know whom your going to vote for , your all over the place the only ones your certain your not voting for is Scheer or Bernier...You've spent time slagging both Cons and Justin, who by the way has taken a shit on your door step, lite it on fire, and Now your standing there in ankle deep burning shit and Justin is giving you the finger....And yet he is still on the maybe list....And you talk about partisanship....What does this Justin have to do to change your mind ? 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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