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The UN is happy with their boy Trudeau.

But what are the economic costs of this generosity? The government won't tell you. Other governments, especially in Europe, are up front about the costs of refugees. Canada's government is simply not into the idea of being honest with Canadians.  Employment among refugees is low, and their income is low when they do have jobs, which means almost none are paying taxes which come remotely close to the cost of taking care of them. Macleans reports 24% of Syrian men are working (women are far lower), which is well below the average of 39% for male refugees (women are again lower).

A variety of studies have shown poverty becoming endemic among refugees, both here and in the US, with those from the middle east region, including Afghanistan and north Africa faring particularly poorly, with Somalies faring particularly badly. The labour force participation rate for men in Canada is 93% while for Somalis who have been here 15 years or more it's 41.5%. For women it's 76% while only 30% of Somali women are employed.

So what is the actual cost of taking care of so many tens of thousands without jobs, and tens of thousands more who have low paying jobs for year after year? We can only guess, but it's not cheap.

Sweden budgeted $7 billion to take care of their refugees last year. They had a flood of them since their government decided to be generous - 160,000, but we've got more refugees than that in Canada by now, including those Somalis who have been here decades and aren't working. How much does it all add up to? The government won't say and we don't have a news media which would ever question it or look into it anyway.

OTTAWA -- The United Nations Refugee Agency says Canada admitted the largest number of resettled refugees last year and had the second highest rate of refugees who gained citizenship.

The UNHCR's annual global trends report shows that Canada took in 28,100 of the 92,400 refugees who were resettled in 25 countries during 2018.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/canada-resettled-more-refugees-than-any-other-country-in-2018-un-says-1.4473523

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/11f0019m/11f0019m2019007-eng.htm

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The Canadian government will not release any figures because they cannot and they will not because there will be no end to this massive legal and illegal criminal refugee immigration fiasco going on here in Canada. It will continue on forever as long as this prime mistake buffoon of yours keeps bringing them in. You do know that Trudeau signed onto the United Nations global immigration program where any refugee that wants to come to Canada must be allowed to and be accepted into Canada. It has cost the Canadian taxpayer's hundreds of billions of their tax dollars over the years that have been blown to help resettle all these legal and illegal criminal refugees into Canada. If 10% of those legal and illegal criminal illegals helped Canada along in anyway, well it is for sure that it is not showing one bloody bit. Most of them are on welfare. What a bonus and a great deal for Canada, eh? It's more like one big bloody joke with this present day immigration policy that we real and true conservatives are stuck with in Canada. 

Canada needs a moratorium on all immigration. But with this idiot of a PM, and his Somali immigration minister, and with the help of his commie globalist buddy G. Soros that will never happen anytime soon. I know that you do not like conservatives but real and true conservatives like Maxine Bernier of the PPP are the only ones left that are willing to discuss the topic of immigration. Massive third world immigration will kill this country forever and will turn it into a hell hole if it is not nipped in the bud. One just has to go to a Canadian citizenship ceremony and see who is in the crowd and who is coming here. They certainly do not look very western looking to me anymore. But hey, what more can be said, eh? :(

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Folks,  

I took down some off-topic posts.

We do not have time for a meeting of the flat earth society.

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and yet, the Trudeau regime wants to dismantle the firewall between Canada's economic and refugee immigration areas and massively ramp up the refugee percentages  At least Hussen admits we cannot take in all the world’s refugees/migrants  

https://www.nationalnewswatch.com/2019/06/20/hussen-says-he-wants-canada-to-accept-more-refugees-as-economic-immigrants/#.XQvntEFE2Ef 

 

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1 hour ago, scribblet said:

and yet, the Trudeau regime wants to dismantle the firewall between Canada's economic and refugee immigration areas and massively ramp up the refugee percentages  At least Hussen admits we cannot take in all the world’s refugees/migrants  

https://www.nationalnewswatch.com/2019/06/20/hussen-says-he-wants-canada-to-accept-more-refugees-as-economic-immigrants/#.XQvntEFE2Ef 

Sure. Why not spend billions and billions more and bring in tens of thousands more people with no job skills, education or language skills who will live their entire lives on welfare? What could go wrong?

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new liberal program for young Canadians I mean young Pakistanis to enable the capital to  start up of new businesses , plus full citizenship the day you land in Canada...., the only condition is you have to be a Pakistani, living in Pakistan, under this program the business owners plus all the CEO's and all the workers plus all their families will get full citizenship , all on the Canadian dime... This program is not available to anyone else.....not even Canadians, this is the same country that harbored known terrorist, Bin Ladin ring a bell, along with thousands more....Go liberals go how do we explain this to the rest of the world, and once again how do we justify it to Canadians 

 

 

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23 hours ago, Army Guy said:

new liberal program for young Canadians I mean young Pakistanis to enable the capital to  start up of new businesses , plus full citizenship the day you land in Canada...., the only condition is you have to be a Pakistani, living in Pakistan, under this program the business owners plus all the CEO's and all the workers plus all their families will get full citizenship , all on the Canadian dime... This program is not available to anyone else.....not even Canadians, this is the same country that harbored known terrorist, Bin Ladin ring a bell, along with thousands more....Go liberals go how do we explain this to the rest of the world, and once again how do we justify it to Canadians 

 

 

The face of the new multicultural Canada. This Somali immigration minister is in cahoots with king Trudeau and G. Soros who are all trying to flood Canada with as many non western looking immigrants as much as possible. If one is of a British/European western looking background then good luck in trying to immigrate to Canada. Our present day liberal/socialist pro non western immigration policy tells me that. But hey. 

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Here in Europe people are talking about how we are witnessing the implementation of the Kalergi-plan. Google it if you dont know what it means. 

Obviously, leftists have denounced that as far-right conspiracy-theories but if you look at the demographic development in the European countries over the past 20 or so years talking about population-replacement isn't exaggeration. Especially in cities. 

It seems that the Kalergi-plan is being implemented in Canada as well. 

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30 minutes ago, -TSS- said:

Obviously, leftists have denounced that as far-right conspiracy-theories 

How unfair of them !  They should sit down and reasonably discuss a theory that Jews are planning to ruin the white race and rule the world.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalergi_plan

 

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I quite like Pakistanis, very conservative, very pro military and very chauvinistic, that's my kind of people, I welcome them with open arms.

Terrorism in Pakistan is related to the Cold War with India, but I don't find the Pakistani bourgeois business class to be particularly threatening at all.

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22 hours ago, -TSS- said:

It seems that the Kalergi-plan is being implemented in Canada as well. 

In what universe would anyone rational believe that bringing more Muslims into Canada - now three time as many as there are Jews here - is going to lead to an increase in Jewish influence and power?

"A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley

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'Canada took in 28,100 of the 92,400 refugees who were resettled in 25 countries during 2018.'

 ICE officials say they have released over 100,000 illegal immigrants into the country over the last three months, averaging over 1,000 per day.

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On 6/20/2019 at 7:30 PM, scribblet said:

and yet, the Trudeau regime wants to dismantle the firewall between Canada's economic and refugee immigration areas and massively ramp up the refugee percentages  At least Hussen admits we cannot take in all the world’s refugees/migrants  

https://www.nationalnewswatch.com/2019/06/20/hussen-says-he-wants-canada-to-accept-more-refugees-as-economic-immigrants/#.XQvntEFE2Ef 

 

I think this makes a whole lot of sense:

"Instead of thinking of refugees as people who just want resettlement and people who are passive recipients of aid, how about re-imagining refugees as people who have assets to contribute, who have talents and skills that we need in Canada?"

If refugees sitting in camps somewhere have skills that qualify them as immigrants to Canada, why not admit them that way? 

I note that the Canada resettled "the most" refugees simply because the US does not resettle as many refugees now under Trump as previously. 

And keep in mind ... other countries are hosting millions of refugees in camps. 

Tempest in a Tory teapot ... again.

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As long as we are talking refugees with little to no assets, why are we concentrating all our efforts on people who have fled war and are now safe and  receiving food , shelter, and security for the most part. why not concentrate our efforts on the people who are not as fortunate as those in these camps like those that are starving, homeless with no hope in site......why do these people who are not in any immediate danger get to jump the ques....

Why do we not have any conversation about the people like the ones mentioned below, is it because they are black, or don't have any money, and have very little skills, where is the debate on these people...Why has our own Somalia born immigration minister forgotten his own lost people... 

 https://www.worldvision.org/hunger-news-stories/east-africa-hunger-famine-facts

We are concerned about low skill labor here in Canada, maybe we should be placing those that are on unemployment or welfare in those jobs....Thats right I said it, why do we need to import these labor solutions when we have home grown unskilled laborers right here in Canada or are Canadians to proud to work in these jobs ? 

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49 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

........ 

 https://www.worldvision.org/hunger-news-stories/east-africa-hunger-famine-facts

We are concerned about low skill labor here in Canada, maybe we should be placing those that are on unemployment or welfare in those jobs....Thats right I said it, why do we need to import these labor solutions when we have home grown unskilled laborers right here in Canada or are Canadians to proud to work in these jobs ? 

Nobody wants to talk about that, or even consider helping people right here in Canada to find work...    heaven forbid we help Canadians

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18 minutes ago, scribblet said:

Nobody wants to talk about that, or even consider helping people right here in Canada to find work...    heaven forbid we help Canadians

Their are plenty of programs that help Canadians.  My daughter has taken advantage of several.

Anyway, what is the conservative** response whenever programs to help the disadvantaged are suggested?  "Why should my tax dollars go to help people that are just too lazy to work?"  Or "If people can't afford kids, they shouldn't have them.  My tax dollars shouldn't be wasted helping irresponsible people."  Or "If those people want more money, they should get better paying jobs or another instead if expecting my money to subsidize their lack of ambition."  

**Not all conservatives.

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21 minutes ago, dialamah said:

Their are plenty of programs that help Canadians.  My daughter has taken advantage of several.

Anyway, what is the conservative** response whenever programs to help the disadvantaged are suggested?  "Why should my tax dollars go to help people that are just too lazy to work?"  Or "If people can't afford kids, they shouldn't have them.  My tax dollars shouldn't be wasted helping irresponsible people."  Or "If those people want more money, they should get better paying jobs or another instead if expecting my money to subsidize their lack of ambition."  

**Not all conservatives.

Are you saying there are already enough programs to help under privileged Canadians ?  Nor do you address the question as to WHY we need to import low skilled workers when we have lots of them already within our borders?  Instead you rely on your old standard come backs, surprised you did not blame it all on Harper....but bravo on getting that plug in on conservatives.

 

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42 minutes ago, dialamah said:

Their are plenty of programs that help Canadians.  My daughter has taken advantage of several.

Anyway, what is the conservative** response whenever programs to help the disadvantaged are suggested?  "Why should my tax dollars go to help people that are just too lazy to work?"  Or "If people can't afford kids, they shouldn't have them.  My tax dollars shouldn't be wasted helping irresponsible people."  Or "If those people want more money, they should get better paying jobs or another instead if expecting my money to subsidize their lack of ambition."  

**Not all conservatives.

The conservative response is usually that of helping people get off welfare or EI and into the work force, which is the end game.    And yes, people shouldn't have kids if they can't afford them.  Plenty of programs - sure there are - name 5 successful programs that people can easily access. 

 

 

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5 hours ago, jacee said:

I think this makes a whole lot of sense:

"Instead of thinking of refugees as people who just want resettlement and people who are passive recipients of aid, how about re-imagining refugees as people who have assets to contribute, who have talents and skills that we need in Canada?"

Because they largely DON'T have assets or talents or skills we need in Canada?

Only 39% of refugees find employment and of those who do their income is around minimum wage. Given we've brought a million refugees into the country, the economic cost of having that many extra mouths to feed, almost none of whom are contributing to the tax base, is incalculable.

"A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley

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3 hours ago, Army Guy said:

Why do we not have any conversation about the people like the ones mentioned below, is it because they are black, or don't have any money, and have very little skills, where is the debate on these people...Why has our own Somalia born immigration minister forgotten his own lost people...

Maybe because it's hard to make the case they are skilled. Only  about 35% of Somalis are employed after 10 years in Canada, and their earnings average about $27k a year, which is barely over minimum wage.

"A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley

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On 6/22/2019 at 1:13 PM, -TSS- said:

Here in Europe people are talking about how we are witnessing the implementation of the Kalergi-plan. Google it if you dont know what it means. 

Obviously, leftists have denounced that as far-right conspiracy-theories but if you look at the demographic development in the European countries over the past 20 or so years talking about population-replacement isn't exaggeration. Especially in cities. 

It seems that the Kalergi-plan is being implemented in Canada as well. 

The "Kalergi Plan" has been in effect in Canada for decades now and has been around for decades in Canada and indeed there is a plan to try and make white people become a minority in their own white homelands or even make them go extinct if they can. Canada imports approx. 85% of it's new immigrants from non western countries and this has been going on for decades now. If that is not a recipe for white genocide well what is? So far thanks to Trudeau and his Somali immigration minister and with the blessing of G. Soros the plan is working quite well for now in Canada. Only real and true white patriotic Nationalist proud boy and girl Canadians can eliminate that plan and save their people. The plan cannot be denied. :unsure:  

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10 hours ago, Rex Havoc said:

How about we all leave, wait a winter and then come home to clean up and bury the dead.

If the white people all left Canada and returned after one year the mess left for us to clean up would be immense. There maybe well be many dead people to have to bury. Ottawa would be taken over by non western looking people and what a mess that would be for Canada. No doubt there will be more unemployment, more poverty, more hunger, and many created tribal conflicts going on and many fighting for turf. We have seen some of the many countries that many of these third world people have come from and those countries are in one hell of a shit hole mess. If the Native Indians are complaining now, they will have a lot more to complain about if old whitey takes off for a year. I am pretty sure that they will be welcoming old whitey back with open arms. They will tell us that the federal government has not done a thing for us and they did not give us any money. Just saying. Just my opinion, of course. :)

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On 6/23/2019 at 7:05 PM, scribblet said:

Nobody wants to talk about that, or even consider helping people right here in Canada to find work...    heaven forbid we help Canadians

Canadians are doing pretty well for jobs these  days, like back to the heydays of the '70's! 

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Canada Unemployment Rate

 The unemployment rate in Canada fell to 5.4 percent in May of 2019 from 5.7 percent in the previous month and below market expectations of 5.7 percent. It was the lowest since comparable data became available in 1976. The economy added 27.7 thousand jobs, entirely driven by full-time positions. Compared with May 2018, employment grew by 453,000 or 2.4 percent, reflecting gains in both full-time (+299,000) and part-time (+154,000) work. Unemployment Rate in Canada averaged 7.63 percent from 1966 until 2019, reaching an all time high of 13.10 percent in December of 1982 and a record low of 2.90 percent in June of 1966.

We likely have a lot of jobs that need filling. If refugees have skills we need, qualify on the points system, why not accept them as immigrants instead of refugees?

 

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