Shady Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 11 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Looks like his plan is to make stuff up before election day then drop it... Sure. But what is the Democrats plan for illlegal immigration? Does anybody know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Truth Detector said: Sure. But what is the Democrats plan for illlegal immigration? Does anybody know? Just what I posted. Oh...while denying the caravan even exists. Perhaps call Trump some names and dox a few Fox reporters. Can't think of much else...WW3 has been tried already. Didn't work out... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Just what I posted. Oh...while denying the caravan even exists. Perhaps call Trump some names and dox a few Fox reporters. Can't think of much else...WW3 has been tried already. Didn't work out... You’re right. I figured I’d try and get a straight answer from him instead of his usual trolling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 15 minutes ago, Truth Detector said: Sure. But what is the Democrats plan for illlegal immigration? Does anybody know? Looks like they were so busy having a meltdown over Trump's tweets, they forgot to make a plan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribblet Posted November 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 11 hours ago, Truth Detector said: I know what Trump's plan is for illegal immigration. But what's the Democrat's plan? As far as I know they don't have one. Like Canadian liberals they probably figure the more they let in, the more Democrat votes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribblet Posted November 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2018 The caravan has reached the border by bus and the people of Tijuana aren't happy, https://ca.news.yahoo.com/migrants-streaming-tijuana-now-face-long-stay-050505086.html https://hienalouca.com/co/2018/11/16/residents-in-an-upscale-tijuana-neighborhood-throw-rocks-at-the-migrant-caravan/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 22 hours ago, scribblet said: The caravan has reached the border by bus and the people of Tijuana aren't happy, https://ca.news.yahoo.com/migrants-streaming-tijuana-now-face-long-stay-050505086.html https://hienalouca.com/co/2018/11/16/residents-in-an-upscale-tijuana-neighborhood-throw-rocks-at-the-migrant-caravan/ They are being directed to sleep in the bull fighting ring/stadium/parking lot that sits right on the US/Mexican border. No the Mexicans are not happy...at all. Turns out the caravan is real...Virginia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 (edited) Some angry folks...geee...not sure why. I mean...Orange Man Bad!!! Orange Man Bad!!!!! Bloody NPCs... Edited November 19, 2018 by DogOnPorch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turningrite Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, DogOnPorch said: No the Mexicans are not happy...at all. Turns out the caravan is real...Virginia. Of course the caravan is real. No country that I'm aware of puts in place and allocates what some apparently believe to be excess taxpayer-funded services and resources to deal with people who on their own just decide to show up. Ultimately, one of the main solutions to the problem of uncontrolled migration will have to be to change international law to restrict the definition of "refugee" to include only those who face the imminent threat of political, racial or religious persecution in their homelands. Permitting tens or even hundreds of thousands who are mainly moving for economic reasons or who are merely members of groups that are actually involved in civil wars to claim refugee status actually undermines the interests of real refugees. Edited November 19, 2018 by turningrite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 1 hour ago, turningrite said: Of course the caravan is real. Not according to the progressive sorts who say it is merely an election stunt for Trump. Does not exist...never did...and now Trump no longer cares since the election is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turningrite Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Not according to the progressive sorts who say it is merely an election stunt for Trump. Does not exist...never did...and now Trump no longer cares since the election is over. I don't think American progressives deny the existence of the caravans. They disagree with the negative characterizations of mass migration, particularly by those on the right. However, I believe progressives underestimate the degree of legitimate anxiety such migration creates for majority populations in countries that face the challenges of absorbing large numbers of self-selected migrants. It's interesting that according to media reports many in Mexico aren't particularly happy about these migrants entering and remaining in their country. It undermines the notion that all such concerns are grounded in racism and/or xenophobia, the fallback explanations too often reflexively employed by the progressive set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, turningrite said: I don't think American progressives deny the existence of the caravans. Really? https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/31/opinions/trump-immigration-crisis-doesnt-exist-gergen-piltch/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turningrite Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Really? https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/31/opinions/trump-immigration-crisis-doesnt-exist-gergen-piltch/index.html I've listened to Gergen's views. However, the existence of the caravans is a separate matter from denying that uncontrolled migration is a crisis. In Canada, for instance, we also have a problem with self-selected migration. The Libs deny it's a crisis, but in places most acutely facing its impacts, like in Toronto and Montreal where there is no available shelter space, and in Toronto's case inadequate affordable housing to meet the ordinary needs of the existing population, it surely is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxme Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 On 10/22/2018 at 5:24 AM, scribblet said: according to this https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6300649/Caravan-migrants-swells-5-000-eye-US.html If they do reach the U.S. border how far will they go to stop them. If any of these people are hurt or killed it will play right into the hands of the Democrats. What makes these people believe they have a right to invade another country? and they are being organized http://time.com/5430436/migrant-caravan-mexico-guatemala-border/The caravan doesn’t have any single leader but various activists are involved. After it crossed into Mexico, an international group called Sin Fronteras (Without Borders) has been helping it organize. While the Mexican federal police stopped the caravan going over the border bridge, they stood aside as people went over the river. However, the Mexican Interior Ministry issued a news release late Saturday saying that those who crossed the river illegally could be detained and deported. I am looking forward to the big showdown coming soon. Will the illegal invaders try to enter America illegally or will they be stopped? It seems that all Latino American organizations are all in favor of this caravan and are trying to convince host Americans that this is not an invasion. All is okay. Just people wanting asylum. Let them all in they say. The asylum seekers were offered asylum in Mexico and did not take it. Why? I understand that there will be hundreds of immigration lawyers ready and waiting for them at the border. No doubt most of those lawyers will be Hispanic. Trump is sure right when he said that he needs to get that wall built. It worked well in Israel and having a wall against the Arabs. The democrats are against the wall. More illegals the better for them and more votes. The fun will soon happen. Enjoy the chaos that will soon begin at the border. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 Democrats just spent two years with zero power and no Wall was built. Now they have the House, the GOP squandered their chance to get a Wall Built. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribblet Posted November 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 Can't get the money without enough votes, So Mexicans really racist, and what....ahat....make tijuana great again. Say it isn't so. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/19/mexico-protests-grow-in-tijuana-against-migrant-caravan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 25 minutes ago, scribblet said: Can't get the money without enough votes, So Mexicans really racist, and what....ahat....make tijuana great again. Say it isn't so. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/19/mexico-protests-grow-in-tijuana-against-migrant-caravan Seems the Central Americans are rather...aggressive...for peaceful non-invaders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerfuffle Posted December 22, 2018 Report Share Posted December 22, 2018 (edited) Who in the hell gave the Central American migrants the idea of forming a caravan..... Edited December 22, 2018 by Kerfuffle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted December 22, 2018 Report Share Posted December 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, Kerfuffle said: Who in the hell gave the Central American migrants the idea of forming a caravan..... You're forgetting that while they had the power to do so, the indians used to burn those wagons... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted December 22, 2018 Report Share Posted December 22, 2018 12 minutes ago, Argus said: You're forgetting that while they had the power to do so, the indians used to burn those wagons... Is Argus implying we'll have the pagan ethos to do the same when the caravans stretch beyond the horizon? Burn with what btw, napalm or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerfuffle Posted December 23, 2018 Report Share Posted December 23, 2018 3 hours ago, Argus said: You're forgetting that while they had the power to do so, the indians used to burn those wagons... Native american version of Stand-your-ground law (sometimes called "line in the sand" or "no duty to retreat" law) establishes a right by which a person may defend one's self or others (right of self-defense) against threats or perceived threats, even to the point of applying lethal force, regardless of whether safely retreating from the situation might have been possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iznogoud Posted December 24, 2018 Report Share Posted December 24, 2018 On 12/22/2018 at 2:17 PM, Argus said: You're forgetting that while they had the power to do so, the indians used to burn those wagons... That's a bit of a myth. Far more native Americans were burned than White settlers. 9 Things You May Not Know About the Oregon Trail https://www.history.com/news/9-things-you-may-not-know-about-the-oregon-trail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 Here's a thread about migrant caravans from back when Trump first became POTUS, for people who want to compare the circus surrounding the 2017 caravans with the 2021 caravans. I was just going through old threads, as you may have noticed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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